@MJ: Chile is not tropical at all... and since right now we're in winter the temperatures can go to -3 sometimes... BUT... here is very humid, so the cold goes right thru ur bones...

@Guada and Fluffy: 

Chilenita wrote:

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Motown Junkie wrote:

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McOSIRIS wrote:

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TV Buff wrote:

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In other related news, today is supposed to be the hottest day of the year.

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2day we have 3C and with this humidity feels like -50


I hate u all!!!!!!

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  Isn't Chile supposed to be hot?  Or are you in a part of the country that's freezing?  Like the part closest to Antarctica?? 

LOVE your avatar!!! 

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Chile has winter and it's now

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ALL of Chile????  So temperature wise, they're like Canada?


McO, what the hell were you thinking????? 

McOSIRIS wrote:

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TV Buff wrote:

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In other related news, today is supposed to be the hottest day of the year.

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2day we have 3C and with this humidity feels like -50


I hate u all!!!!!!

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You fool! Quien te mandó a ser tan impulsivo and go to Chile when Toronto's so nice this time of the year! You were supposed to pick up and go in January or something.

TV Buff wrote:

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In other related news, today is supposed to be the hottest day of the year.

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2day we have 3C and with this humidity feels like -50


I hate u all!!!!!!

neruda wrote:

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Has hitting a cop ever worked for anybody?

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Some people don't (or want to)understand that.. Just watch an episode of Badboys Show.

 

Has hitting a cop ever worked for anybody? 

Appears I've been missing some interesting reading

Hugo wrote:

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Dogo wrote:

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Blah blah blah...

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I wish I had a quarter of the time you have to waste on these threads.

Rgds,


The Arrogant Tyrant

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Once again, you reply/address none of the points I try to make
Nice way to 'debate'
You wish you had a quarter of the time I have to waste on these threads? no you don't. Trust me

Don't you just love the way latinos stick together.

Thank God Chileans do!!

Anyways believe what you want there have been two TOTALLY different stories from the start.  I'll choose to believe what I saw how about that.

Officers being assalted, Chileans out of control, a Argentino fan that nobody has seen or heard of was the cause of the whole thing...blah f u c k i n g blah...GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!  They let the tournament go on despite the cops getting assaulted - YEAH OKAY!!  Santa Claus is real too people.

P.S a Chilean player NEVER admited someone on the team hit a female officer!!  READ!!!  If there was a female involved in what happened and something happened to her so be it.  It was her decision to become an officer.  Either you are a sexist or you are not!

"nada justifica la violencia que vino después, ni siquiera el golpe a una mujer"

Ok, please pple don't get all agravate, specially you Chilenita, please ! But c'mon....is that guy saying that it is ok to hit and not getting punished for it? Regardless of the reason started all that ; and I agree that the FIFA should have done something about the way the game was refered; violence no arregla problemas. And here in Canada, we know that the police is going to answer back because that is their job, to protect the pple, including themselves, from things to go out of hands.

We will never know what really happened that night a menos de haber estadeo ahi, when I say that I mena, en el medio, not like a spectator.

But like what happened during the world cup and Zidane, I thik there is no excuse for that kind of behaviour, specially when you can be representing so any things and hope for pple, and that it brings all your hard work and re****tion down the drain. Yes this was an important game and I understand la rabia pero no se estuvieron haciendo ningun favor con eso.

And please, tell me that in Central & South American countries the police wouldn't have reacted like that or even worst ?

There are many things that can be said regarding that game and I personally think that the FIFA should have done something while the game was on. I was in shock watching it and being the Chilenin coach I would have called back the guys and left the field. But what happened after was completly unecessary and they should have gone straight to the highest FIFA instances to deal with this issue.

I know in advance that many will be upset and that my point might not be understood but basically, the ref. was caca, that even with 2 player out, Chile gave an amazing game during the first half but could finalize his actions and that what happened after the game was a disgrace as big as the way the ref. handled the game but it still shouldn't have happen because that's where Chile lost, not in the field.

Hugo wrote:

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To: All non Chilenos (that seem to be infatuated with this thread),

Why don't you just drop it already?!

Este tema nos les concierne, porque no se preocupan de sus vidas o de investigar problemas de sus propios paises?

Los unico interesados en lo que va a suceder con estos incidentes deberiamos ser nosotros los Chilenos, o la gente que esta interesada en el abuso de poder y fuerza desmedida por parte de la Policia de Toronto.

Si no te interesa ser parte de esta lucha, entonces chao, create your own friggin' thread or just simply keep your hater comments to yourself.

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Aren't you the same guy that freaked out on a couple of members, because they said they wouldn't comment on this topic because it didn't concern them??? and NOW you are pissed because it concerns them TOO MUCH? Are you really THAT paranoid or just THAT arrogant? or do you just want them to post what you want to hear?

Also, can't you accept AAANY kind of comment, journalistic report, opinion or even criticism posted, with a bit more of an open mind and at least a liiiiiiittle objectivism, before calling anyone that DOESN'T agree with you on this topic, or isn't chileno, a "hater!!!"? and just carry on a discussion?
It's an interesting topic, WHY is it so offensive from those who comment on it objectively?? Or post media reports? How are reports that agree with your point "OK" but media reports that don't, a product of some sort of conspiracy against Chilenos?
Should ONLY the ones who AGREE with you post anything here?

I understand a couple of posts could go under the "hater" category, and deal with THOSE as you wish, but for the most part, are not...
And is there no way one, chileno or not, can have a different opinion than yours? Is it such a stretch that maybe MAYBE! there is SOMEONE out there that maybe based on something they've read, or just a simple opinion, MIGHT think that there's a itty bitty REMOTE possibility that the brawl could've started by the action of some chilean player? Or is that soooo out of the question that ANYONE who could possibly dare THINK it, is a "chileno hater", and shut up and keep out? How tyrant, man! I thought YOU would know better.

I refuse to discuss ALL the events until more information comes out. Other than the little that's been reported, NOBODY knows what really happened

Anyway... my point is HOW you're going about discussing it, not the events themselves. As i said, I'll try to discuss those later, if I'm 'welcome' and when I know more about it
But, for now, why not have a DISCUSSION based on the little facts that are KNOWN so far, with as little bias as your heart allows, and make it a fair discussion, instead of a general "oh yeah?! And you're hater!!" type of comebacks, to one's that don't deserve it. No offense, but that's just highschool-ish

-- Edited by Dogo at 21:42, 2007-07-30

SANTIAGO, julio 30.- Los incidentes que protagonizaron jugadores de la Selección Sub 20 y la policía canadiense tras el duelo ante Argentina en el Mundial de la categoría, parece no tener final.
Pese a que los sucesos pasaron hace varias semanas (el recordado Torontazo), los relatos de los propios valores criollos han ido dando más detalles de lo sucedido y ahora nuevamente habló el volante Isaías Peralta, el principal afectado por los golpes de corriente que sufrió en suelo norteamericano.

Cuando comenzaron a agredirnos se acercó una mujer policía, que después nos andaba mostrando su placa y que nos había lanzado un gas a los ojos. Con la reacción violenta yo caigo al suelo producto de los golpes, no dije que ella cayó por una agresión, comentó a Terra.cl para aclarar los hechos.

Pero no se quedó ahí y acusó que la agresión de la policía canadiense, que nos trataba de borrachos, fue desmesurada. Ojalá se aclare todo porque hasta la FIFA quiere tapar esto. Ese día nos dieron una charla y nos decían que nos olvidáramos del tema, que el Mundial seguía.

Para rematar su charla, puso paños fríos y prefirió mirar al futuro. Ahora más nos preocupa poder jugar en nuestros clubes y que el miércoles vaya mucha gente al estadio al partido de homenaje, de modo de recaudar los dineros que nos prometieron.

El duelo que hace mención Peralta, es el que se realizará a el Nacional (miércoles 18:30 horas) y que enfrentará a la Rojita con un combinado de estrellas de nuestro país.

To: All non Chilenos (that seem to be infatuated with this thread),

Why don't you just drop it already?!

Este tema nos les concierne, porque no se preocupan de sus vidas o de investigar problemas de sus propios paises?

Los unico interesados en lo que va a suceder con estos incidentes deberiamos ser nosotros los Chilenos, o la gente que esta interesada en el abuso de poder y fuerza desmedida por parte de la Policia de Toronto.

Si no te interesa ser parte de esta lucha, entonces chao, create your own friggin' thread or just simply keep your hater comments to yourself.

La comunidad Chilena tiene muy buenos representantes en diferentes posiciones tanto de gobierno, como en law firms, hospitales, etc. Toda esta gente aun continua unida y no permitira que este abuso pase desapercibido, si alguien esta interesado en los rallies, foros, presentaciones, y reuniones que se estan llevando a efecto casi a diario, you can PM me, or just visit el grupo correspondiente en Facebook.

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For the chilenos that think is ok to beat the cops THIS ISN't SANTIAGO is TORONTO. If you want to beat the cops and get away with it go to chile and beat them.

This is from el Correo

Otra voz: Jugador chileno golpeó a mujer policía
Controversial declaración de Peralta al diario El Mercurio de Chile

Por FREDDY VELEZ

Cuando este lunes se deberá conocer el informe oficial de la policía de Toronto sobre la riña entre jugadores de la selección Sub 20 de Chile y oficiales de esa entidad ocurrida el pasado jueves 29 de julio en esta ciudad, este fin de semana surgieron otras versiones sobre el incidente.

http://www.elcorreo.ca/elcorreo/story.php?story_id=4200



THIS PART IS INTERESTING:

De otro lado, en medios como CBC Radio, voceros de la policía y de la comunidad chilena sugirieron la búsqueda de caminos para cerrar las diferencias y resquemores que el incidente ha ocasionado entre la comunidad y la entidad policial

Un vocero policial habló el fin de semana pasado de la posibilidad de programar un partido amistoso entre un combinado de chilenos residentes en Toronto y una oncena policial, para recaudar fondos para causas sociales de los chilenos en la capital de Ontario.

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I'd run if I were you!!!! 

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God wrote:

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Chilenita wrote:

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Ha nice to see everyone is still on a quest to condem the Chilean players.

So lets see they taserd/pepper sprayed and beat some memebers of our National team. One of them admits he knows a female cop was hit but doesn't know by who or how. Seems like people on this forum think if she was hit it must have been one of our players. IF a female police officer was punched by one of our players something tells me that player would have been arrested and charged. The cops would have done at least that after all the beatings don't ya think....

Regardless if she was female and involved in the situation and received a punch from ANYONE than it's no different from being a male officer involved in the situation. Like people say if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. Next someone will say female troops serving over seas should be at less risk then the males. If you sign on then deal with it.

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Dude you know cops here are UNtouchable, and if you they are gonna go ballistic. Maybe they didn't know it it was hit by a chileno player or fan but do you think they were going to run an investigation in middle of that mess.

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First off I am not a dude and why are you talking like a hill billy

Okay so for the millionth time THERE WERE NO FANS INVOLVED!!! We were behind the fence. This happened in front of the bus where there are NO fans involved. Yes I think that if she was hit by a player she would have made that player get booked. Like you said they think they are UNTOUCHABLE

 

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Sorry Doña Chilenita.

 

Motown Junkie wrote:

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Chilenita wrote:

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Ha nice to see everyone is still on a quest to condem the Chilean players.

So lets see they taserd/pepper sprayed and beat some memebers of our National team. One of them admits he knows a female cop was hit but doesn't know by who or how.  Seems like people on this forum think if she was hit it must have been one of our players.  IF a female police officer was punched by one of our players something tells me that player would have been arrested and charged. The cops would have done at least that after all the beatings don't ya think....

Regardless if she was female and involved in the situation and received a punch from ANYONE than it's no different from being a male officer involved in the situation.  Like people say if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.  Next someone will say female troops serving over seas should be at less risk then the males.  If you sign on then deal with it.

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That's my signature!!!    Yippee!!!!

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HA!  I didn't even notice that.

It's true though.  If you are a cop you are a cop PERIOD!  Equally punchable I say

Chilenita wrote:

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Ha nice to see everyone is still on a quest to condem the Chilean players.

So lets see they taserd/pepper sprayed and beat some memebers of our National team. One of them admits he knows a female cop was hit but doesn't know by who or how.  Seems like people on this forum think if she was hit it must have been one of our players.  IF a female police officer was punched by one of our players something tells me that player would have been arrested and charged. The cops would have done at least that after all the beatings don't ya think....

Regardless if she was female and involved in the situation and received a punch from ANYONE than it's no different from being a male officer involved in the situation.  Like people say if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.  Next someone will say female troops serving over seas should be at less risk then the males.  If you sign on then deal with it.

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That's my signature!!!    Yippee!!!!

Motown Junkie wrote:

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  This just totally cracked me up.  I suppose SOME people are just going to say the police beat them into admitting it or whatever. 


Chilean player admits officer was punched

Jul 30, 2007 04:30 AM

DANIEL DALE
STAFF REPORTER

The Chilean soccer player who was shot with a Taser during a clash with Toronto police has admitted that one of his teammates had earlier punched an officer in the face.

"I don't know who hit her, but yes, someone did hit a female officer," Isaias Peralta told Chile's El Mercurio newspaper Saturday.

The incident occurred July 19 at Exhibition Place after Chile lost to Argentina in a testy Under-20 World Cup semifinal match.

In its immediate aftermath, Chilean players said police needlessly clubbed them when they tried to protect a teammate from an overzealous security guard who had forcefully prevented him from talking to friendly fans. But Police Chief Bill Blair said officers responded in a "firm but fair" manner to the "aggressive behaviour" of Chilean players who angrily poured out of their team bus after a player and a fan got into an argument.

In El Mercurio, Peralta said that police officers hit the Chileans without good reason before the player hit the female officer.

But his comments were the first in which a Chilean player had admitted any responsibility for the escalation of the clash, which prompted protests at Canada's embassy in Santiago and condemnation of Toronto police by Chile's president.

"We only wanted to talk to the people and (the police) attacked us like we were dogs," player Arturo Vidal told the Star a week ago.

Blair promised a thorough investigation of the incident. Toronto police plan to release a report with its findings as soon as today.

Police spokesperson Mark Pugash said he has not seen the report and does not know what it will say.

He confirmed, however, that a female officer was hit in the face. He maintained that players' "violent behaviour" prompted the use of pepper spray and the Taser.

"Police were on the receiving end of some considerably aggressive behaviour," Pugash said. "And their job in those circumstances is to stop that behaviour."

Pugash, like Blair, said that police intervened "to defuse the situation" after a Chilean player got into an argument with a fan.

"The officers are very well trained in the use of force. They obviously use the minimum force necessary to stop the violence, and that's what they did."

Nine players, according to the Chilean delegation, were briefly detained at the National Soccer Stadium after the clash.

Though none were arrested, the head of world soccer body FIFA called the incident a "black mark" on the Under-20 tournament.

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/Soccer/article/241192

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i read this this morning, I wonder how this will change the chilenos views of things.

~X

LatinUrban dot ca wrote:

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before y'all go killing this thread, check this song out:

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lol...well its creative the hook part especially...good message ..its aight
 for some reason it reminds me that track "glory" from killa cam nore and pun

Chilenita wrote:

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God wrote:

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...and the photo thread!!

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I know too bad Argentina had to make that CHEESY goal on Mexico. This could have been a Chile/Mexico thread....that would have been nicer

 

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Mexicans know some pepper spray would keep the chilenos on check

-- Edited by God at 10:32, 2007-07-27

Dogo wrote:

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...and the photo thread!!

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@ Admin

And the Argentina Champion too...delete both of them

Thank You.

God wrote:

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@ Admin

Can you delete this thread please ..thank you.

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VIVA CHILE!!!!!

Dogo wrote:

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Yeah, that's how we win games
Well, I admit it, and have in other threads. I don't like the diving as much as the next guy
Is it THAT that made us win the game, or Chile lose it? I don't think so

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DOGO why are you soooooooooooooooo obsessed with this thread.

Reggaetoni wierdo you