I saw those mementos on the Morningside Bridge as I was coming back from work. I find that area quite depressing, I don't know why, that's why I don't like Scarborough, I find it somehow depressing. They say depression is caused by chemicals imbalances in the brain which are triggered by changes in wheather ( sun ligth,etc), and personal problems and feelings of desperation (by the way,they say bananas contain tryphtophan "something like that" that is a precursor of one of those chemicals; so eat more bananas people when you think about jumping from a bridge).
I remember that around 12 years ago, a young succesful Bayview area woman jumped to her death in front of a TTC train. Suicides are hard to explain. I heard on a nigth radio show an "expert" talking about negative entities that may induce negative thoughts in people so they commit these things. Well, that's something else, I guess.
A pshychotic woman jumps off a bridge to commit suicide and takes her innocent little child with her and yet they talk about her in the news like she is an ok person.
Oh, boohoo, she was depressed so that excuses it? BS. She is a murderer and her name should be run through the mud. She should be crucified for taking the life of a little boy that deserved to have a chance to live out his life. The memorial should only be dedicated to the child, not the evil mother.
I can't help thinking that if a man had done this it would be a bigger issue. But that's not even what bothers me, it's just the fact that they are turning this whole thing into an investigation into mental illness in Toronto instead of treating this woman as a murderer, because that is all she is or was.
If that is the case we can apply the same rationale for pedhopiles, because is a mental illness...
Plus no one mentioned the damage done to the cars below the bridge. Were windshields smashed? Bodywork dented? Do you know the damage that running over an overfed single mom can be caused to your suspension?
People insurance rates are going to go up just because some lazy breeder didn't want to get a real job.
God wrote: "mothers" like that don't deserve to be called mnothers.....if she has issues they are hers.....
Her issues can affect her kid.....no? So in her eyes, she was probably doing the right thing...and being so depressed she wasn't thinking straight...
Also.....we cannot be so quick to judge.....especially if you have never been so depressed to the point of contemplating suicide and even going through with it.....I've said before on Foro...."a depressed person can be so much more dangerous than a sane criminal".......depression makes you not care for anyone, anything, especially yourself....and when you don't care you don't fear or feel anything.....and you especially don't think of others......nevermind your own kid.....in her state of mind she probably thought this was the ONLY option for the kid....or she didn't want the baby to live the same miserable life as she did....who knows? we'll never know...that's for sure.....
Pobrecita!
True dat! Did you hear that story of the father that killed his 13-year-old epileptic son in one of those episodes? In his crazy mind (and this was only an episode-- he wasn't crazy full time) the brother was going to kill his sister and so he had to kill him first. He got an insanity plea or something and he'll only be in jail (or a mental institution) for a short time, because they found that he wasn't totally sane when he committed the crime. He regrets the whole thing now. So it's more than being a bad mother. These people actually think they're "saving" their children from a greater evil.
God wrote: "mothers" like that don't deserve to be called mnothers.....if she has issues they are hers.....
Her issues can affect her kid.....no? So in her eyes, she was probably doing the right thing...and being so depressed she wasn't thinking straight...
Also.....we cannot be so quick to judge.....especially if you have never been so depressed to the point of contemplating suicide and even going through with it.....I've said before on Foro...."a depressed person can be so much more dangerous than a sane criminal".......depression makes you not care for anyone, anything, especially yourself....and when you don't care you don't fear or feel anything.....and you especially don't think of others......nevermind your own kid.....in her state of mind she probably thought this was the ONLY option for the kid....or she didn't want the baby to live the same miserable life as she did....who knows? we'll never know...that's for sure.....
Pobrecita!
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So they've identified them... This is a really sad case. And it's scary how easily they can just get off a bus and jump to their death (and take someone with them). Truly sad.
Note how the media changed the story...first they said the "mother" drop the kid and she jumped after....
Today the media says they jumped together...
"mothers" like that don't deserve to be called mnothers.....if she has issues they are hers.....
So they've identified them... This is a really sad case. And it's scary how easily they can just get off a bus and jump to their death (and take someone with them). Truly sad.
I am sure we all heard about this horrific "accident" yesterday in the news. I am still asking to myself, if she was so ill, there is no way her family and close friends wouldn't have noticed no ? If so, why didn't they do anything, a 2 y/o is dead for no reason !!!!!
One wilted bouquet of flowers, a few plastic poinsettias and a teddy bear fastened to the guardrail of a 401 overpass are the only visible reminders of how a mother plunged to her death this weekend, along with her preschool-aged son.
Andrea Johnson, 30, jumped off the Morningside Ave. bridge with her 2-year-old son Sulla Genua on Sunday evening. The two plummeted 30 metres onto the busy westbound collector lanes of Highway 401 below in the city's east end. Relatives learned of the tragic situation late yesterday afternoon. "We only found out a couple of hours ago," said a cousin of Genua's father, who did not want to be named. "There's a lot of sorrow. We're very frustrated and upset." Johnson was undeterred by motorists who stopped their cars on the side of the road to try to help. Despite their pleas, she flung herself and her son off the bridge. Both were struck by cars speeding along the highway, near the Toronto Zoo, at about 7:15 p.m. A post-mortem examination conducted yesterday concluded that Johnson died as a result of multiple trauma, while her son was killed by blunt-impact head trauma. Speculation swirled as to whether the pair was from out of the province, and why the mother had taken her own life and that of her child. Psychiatric experts say it's likely Johnson suffered severe depression and speculated that a psychotic episode pushed her to this "highly lethal" act. "I'd be concerned about a psychotic depression, where judgment and connection to reality are impaired," said Dr. Jodi Lofchy, an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and chair of psychiatric emergency services at the University Health Network. "Someone has to be very ill for this to occur." Lofchy explained that in such cases, the woman tends to believe she is "saving herself and the boy from a fate worse than death." Things seem to be so bad that she sees no alternative but to end it all, Lofchy said. Dr. Mark Berber, a lecturer in psychiatry at U of T, explained that such decisions are usually impulsive. "Very often, something may have happened recently in their personal life to tip the balance," he said. "And the woman sees no future for her or her child." A woman who experiences such an episode may believe she must take the child's life as well because there is no one else to care for him, said suicide expert Paul Links. "That's a sign of a significant mental health problem." It's not likely the added stress of the oncoming holiday season had anything to do with it, the experts said. Suicide rates tend to rise after the Christmas season, not before. Investigators are still trying to piece together what happened before Johnson, who was found without shoes, climbed over the guardrail with her son. Officers said she made it to the overpass on a southbound bus, with a transfer from the Sheppard Ave. subway station. With her hair in dreadlocks and wearing stockings, a three-quarter-length coat, a ribbed sweater and a Gap jacket, Johnson walked from a nearby bus stop to the guardrail. Several motorists who saw her walking suspiciously close to the railing called 911. A few stopped their cars on the side of the road when she crossed over the metal barrier with the child. Police say a male motorist who had pulled over called to Johnson, who was described as acting calmly at the time, as he walked toward her. "She was very close to the edge," Toronto police Sgt. Chris Buck said, and jumped before the man could get near her. The mother died at the scene and the boy was pronounced dead in hospital. Officers interviewed 10 to 12 witnesses and kept the highway closed for several hours as the Ontario Provincial Police reconstructed the incident at the scene. "It was pretty traumatic," Buck said, noting that witnesses received counselling from Victim Services at police headquarters. "But it's a credit to the people of Toronto that this situation can be noticed and they do something about it."
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