well Ernesto, te voy a comentar.... El invierno aca es el mismo invierno de NY...frio igual que alla. Yo vivi tiempo en Paterson, NY,and Long Island...alla en NY es mas divertido para los jovenes y la gente que le gusta salir a rumbear, claro es mas caro si te la pasas en manhattan, pero la vivienda es carisima alla y la mayoria de gente vive en lo que le llaman el Ghetto, porque es mas barato y ahi viven todo los latinos y blacks...mas como estar back home..Ahi mismo tu miras el racismo que el gobierno le tiene a los minorities (hispanics and blacks) que ahora son casi el majority, pero tienen menos derechos, no les dejan que superen y viven en un numdo abandonado, osea el gobierno no hace ni un carajo para que los latinos y negros sigan adelante, mas les ayudan para que se eliminen entre ellos mismos, poniendoles acessos faciles a la pobresa, liquor stores, drogas, armas, etc... En USA para superar y salir adelante, como hispano tienes que trabajar twice as hard para salir adelante del gringo..
Aca en Toronto es tambien multicultural igual que NYC, pero a diferencia que aca los latinos tienen el mismo derecho que los blancos, osea que puedes superar mas facilmente, pues el gobierno ayuday mucho a la gente aca para estudiar o abrir negocios, **** asta dinero le dan a uno para no trabajar (welfare =wilfrido) pero si te la vives mas tranquilo aca, menos crimen que alla, la gente como que respeta mas las leyes aca creo.. pero como te digo, si andas buscando parrandear, quedate en NY, pero si eres una persona adulta con familia, vente a Toronto o cualquier otra ciudad cerca de Toronto (mas barato las casas), que aca puedes vivir en cualquier neighborhood, con tal que tengas el dinero para comprar of course...
Yes in NYC I use enlgish at work only. On the streets I 90% can use spanish.
I believe not even the gringos realize how much spanish is spoken in NYC since
hispanic people usually speak them in English.
About the subway it depends of the train number I usually took train 1 & 9 and after
125th street you start seeing a lot of "primos" as we said here in and out.
I use to live in 137th street this section is mostly D. R. (Dominican Republic)
Mexicans are getting bigger here but still PuertoRico and Domincana is
the dominant hispanic group.
There is a lot of parades around the year. There is also flee markets where
you see people from Peru selling knitting cloth this is very good business here
for fall and winter.
I know two big hispanic centers around Roosvelt in Queens, Union City in new jersey
they are kind of micro latin-american cities and good places to eat.
One question how bad is winter in Canda in NYC the worse winter months are
usually January and February the temperature can get -20 degrees but only
for a day or two usually stay between -10 and -5 we also get 1 or 2 blizzards
with about 1 foot of snow. I know Canadian winter can be harsh but is it that
hard?
Canadian winter are harsh especially in January and February where we often have severals consecutives days really cold weather. It happens at times we get between -10 and -20 degrees without considering the wind factor which makes it worse when it happens. But in general things get slightly cold from the end of November until the end of march, just before spring comes back. But winter is fun too because you can do many outside activities and of course, you would to buy a lot of winter stuff to get use to the Canadian winter only 5-6 hours away by car from the big apple and the worse thing to do is to lock yourself at home during winter.
As an example,2 years ago, my aunt who's living in Florida came in Montreal visiting us in december and January and she loved it so much that she may back for this year Christmas holidays again.
Thank God this is not like the U.S. so sorry to disappoint u but hell nah LoL When u talk about Canadian Winter first make u know the City u talking about cause Canada is huge, every city has a different weather climate so if u ask about Toronto is about the same 2 NYC Winter.
However in NYC you can see a lot of people from all over the world.
Most of the people come to work here they live outside so when it comes
to work everyone is mixed. However when it comes to the neighborhood
it is interesting you can see some "invisible" borders for instance you
may have a railroad or a highway in one side live one community and in the
other lives another. Even so in the subway that cross the whole city when
you take it in downtown you see say mostly chinise people in midtown you see mostly white
people when you get to uptown you already cross all continents in only one subway.
Well I was visiting NYC (Manhattan) two weeks ago, and I found the same multiculturalist than in Toronto. Probably you will find more Asian immigrants and less Hispanic. I didn't have to speak English in Manhattan, everybody was talking to me in Spanish even Chinese sellers in Canal street .
As in NYC in Toronto you will feel that are you traveling around the world when you are taking the subway, but the big difference is that you will have less time to enjoy it, Toronto's subway doesn't run 24 hours as some lines from NYC's subway do.
I think you will find Toronto quieter, cleaner and safer ( I didn't have any problems in NYC, even thought I stayed in a hostel in the Spanish Harlem, which looks to me very friendly and represent a lot of the Hispanic identity) but media and some people say a lot of horrendous stories about Hispanics in NYC.
Perhaps my perspective as a visitor in New York is too light to say if it is similar to Toronto, but I think if you are looking for better standards of life, probably you will find less people in poverty here and a stronger social support system, a fairer society in certain way.
However in NYC you can see a lot of people from all over the world.
Most of the people come to work here they live outside so when it comes
to work everyone is mixed. However when it comes to the neighborhood
it is interesting you can see some "invisible" borders for instance you
may have a railroad or a highway in one side live one community and in the
other lives another. Even so in the subway that cross the whole city when
you take it in downtown you see say mostly chinise people in midtown you see mostly white
people when you get to uptown you already cross all continents in only one subway.
and what no specific reference about latinos in your description lol!??
everytime i goto NY ..the city seems like its slowly getting dominated by hispanics...
mexicans out there especially....they seem to be the new latino minority coming up
im sure u been to queens the bronx lower manhattan washignton heights bushwick brooklyn...u can speak spanish everywhere...
walking around in some parts of queens i literally didnt really see not one white person...
i think toronto is much more diverse then NY!
what shocked me when i was there was going into any mickee dees burger king bodegas..corner stores etc...hahahaha mostly all the employees were latino...
tell me where in canada can u order a big mack in spanish!!!lol.....
I think moving to Toronto because I have heard some people saying the standard of living is better than in US. Besides I am kind of tired in my current job and I would like to get some fresh air.
I live in a town close to manhattan in new jersey. new york is too expensive.
Welcome in Canada, and I hope things goes as you've planned it to go in Toronto where the standard of living is better than NYC but Toronto is still the most expensive city in Canada though. Montreal is not expensive at all for a multicultural city of 2 million people. For example, when you go out clubbing you pay at the top 10$ and the same for parking. But in the majority of places you pay less between 3$ and 8$. and I can give so many other example. In T.O. many club asked 15$ and about the same for parking.
By the way it is the city in Canada donde hay el mas numerosos de latinos after Toronto. But in Montreal (Provincia de Québec) could be easily compare to European cities because the main language is French but english is the second language.
Montreal es completamente differente del resto de Canada sobre la manera de vivir donde vida social and business se mescla muy bien and the way house and building are so different. People are not 'snob'. You could come and see by yourself by visiting in a Weekend and It is only a 5 hour-drive from NYC to Montreal. Normally when I go to NYC, It takes me less time to reach NYC (5 hours) than when I go to Toronto (6 hours).
There is absolutely no way you can compare two cities like NYC and Toronto!! I'm too tired to get into it!
I absolutely love NYC because it's fun and it just seems to never sleep, however, Toronto is clean, and "organized" dare I say. I just find Toronto a healthier city with a healthier lifestyle!!!
LABS' friend is right though: "Toronto is what New York was supposed to be and never was".
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a good friend, who spent 8 yrs in NYC, came for a visit and after a couple of weeks, she'd say that "Toronto is what New York was supposed to be and never was".
The thing is first you listen wonderful things then you listen things not so wonderful.
I guess that's why I am exploring in the internet to see what I get.
What I believe is that canadians are in basic terms like american gringos
but slightly less ego-centric. although before coming to the states I had
one impression from the TVs and movies and now I realize I was somewhat wrong about this country.
May be the only thing about canada is that they don;t have so many movies that
made proclamations about their way of life. Meaing they may be more open
towards other cultures.
That sounds about right to me.
I haven't been to NYC myself, but I've heard that while both cities are multicultural, in Toronto the different cultures are more integrated, as opposed to NYC where pretty much every culture has their own space in the city.
I think moving to Toronto because I have heard some people saying the standard of living is better than in US. Besides I am kind of tired in my current job and I would like to get some fresh air.
I live in a town close to manhattan in new jersey. new york is too expensive.
sorry brotha...we always on a smog alert... LOL
where in Jersey???
-- Edited by caliche at 15:41, 2006-10-17
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I think moving to Toronto because I have heard some people saying the standard of living is better than in US. Besides I am kind of tired in my current job and I would like to get some fresh air.
I live in a town close to manhattan in new jersey. new york is too expensive.
Yes visiting for a weekend is a good idea. The point is that I got a Permanent Resident
visa and as fas as I know once I go in I have to stay there for a while until I get my Resident Card and I cannot just disappeare from my current job. Besides I am in NYC as H1B
so once I go to Canada I have to get an appointment in the US-Emabassy to get my
passport restamped and they take a week or so to do it. The closest I ever been there
is the Niagar Falls I went a couple of years ago an I crossed to the Canadian side.
I left with a good impression.
So why you say Toronto fortunely is not like a US city?