GRINGO LATINOS vs REAL LATINOS

Mastropiero · Guru

RE: GRINGO LATINOS vs REAL LATINOS

angelita · Guru

TV Buff wrote:

Oh, Jesus, just what we needed: Another Inca Kola loving weirdo. No offense, Miguel.

BTW, Welcome to Foro!

-- Edited by TV Buff at 12:42, 2006-10-12

Heehee! I LOVE Inca Cola!! Welcome!!!

BTW, sounds like crew of people that i know!

TV Buff · TOP Guru

Oh, Jesus, just what we needed: Another Inca Kola loving weirdo. No offense, Miguel.

BTW, Welcome to Foro!

-- Edited by TV Buff at 12:42, 2006-10-12

luna chiquitita · TOP Guru

Peruano wrote:

This Tread is Wack, I didnt know that there is people that still think like this, it remainds me of my High School years, is like if you didnt hang around with the Latinos, U were a Gringo or a Gino wanna be. This is stupid I was Born in South America and I'm very proud about it, I moved here when I was 14 yrs. old and most of my friends are non-latinos and they are very cool people, I dont go to Latin Clubs as much like other people, I rather hit the English Clubs in Dwntown TO. Like "This is London" "Lot 332" etc. and that doesnt make non-latino I'm 100% SUDAMERICANO probably more than anyone here, I speak, write and read in "Castellano" (spanish), I love my Peruvian Culture, Food (Lomo Saltado, Ceviche etc.) and Love my Latin Music, especially Salsa (Hector Lavoe), ReggaeTon and I also like English Music: House, House and more House, Hip Hop (especially 80's and 90 Hip Hop, Biggie, Wu Tang Clan, Das EFX, Cyppress), Reaggae...And I dont think that makes me non-latino...... Chau Fa: biggrin:

do you also like long walks on the beach and watching sunsets

you reply sounded very "personal addy"

Welcome to Foro

Daeveed · Foro Master

Peruano wrote:

This Tread is Wack, I didnt know that there is people that still think like this, it remainds me of my High School years, is like if you didnt hang around with the Latinos, U were a Gringo or a Gino wanna be. This is stupid I was Born in South America and I'm very proud about it, I moved here when I was 14 yrs. old and most of my friends are non-latinos and they are very cool people, I dont go to Latin Clubs as much like other people, I rather hit the English Clubs in Dwntown TO. Like "This is London" "Lot 332" etc. and that doesnt make non-latino I'm 100% SUDAMERICANO probably more than anyone here, I speak, write and read in "Castellano" (spanish), I love my Peruvian Culture, Food (Lomo Saltado, Ceviche etc.) and Love my Latin Music, especially Salsa (Hector Lavoe), ReggaeTon and I also like English Music: House, House and more House, Hip Hop (especially 80's and 90 Hip Hop, Biggie, Wu Tang Clan, Das EFX, Cyppress), Reaggae...And I dont think that makes me non-latino...... Chau Fa: biggrin:

How about 'perreo'? I watched a video and that's some pretty crazy stuff...

Peruano · Regular

This Tread is Wack, I didnt know that there is people that still think like this, it remainds me of my High School years, is like if you didnt hang around with the Latinos, U were a Gringo or a Gino wanna be. This is stupid I was Born in South America and I'm very proud about it, I moved here when I was 14 yrs. old and most of my friends are non-latinos and they are very cool people, I dont go to Latin Clubs as much like other people, I rather hit the English Clubs in Dwntown TO. Like "This is London" "Lot 332" etc. and that doesnt make non-latino I'm 100% SUDAMERICANO probably more than anyone here, I speak, write and read in "Castellano" (spanish), I love my Peruvian Culture, Food (Lomo Saltado, Ceviche etc.) and Love my Latin Music, especially Salsa (Hector Lavoe), ReggaeTon and I also like English Music: House, House and more House, Hip Hop (especially 80's and 90 Hip Hop, Biggie, Wu Tang Clan, Das EFX, Cyppress), Reaggae...And I dont think that makes me non-latino...... Chau Fa: biggrin:

careguea · Senior Member

FANTITO wrote:

In fact, most people in latin america don't dress the way young latinos dress in Toronto.

Thats so true...especially the wannabe gang banger latinos with the bandanas and with only the top button of their shirts buttoned up

in Chile i saw young people 'dress up' by tucking their nike t-shirts into their blue jeans and then hitting a bar...the girls dressed hot though

TV Buff · TOP Guru

FANTITO wrote:

I've seen the Rolling Stones 4 times, also Paul Mc Cartner (of the BEatles and WIng), Led Zeppelin,aswell as other english speaking great bands. Why? BEcause I 've heard that music since I was a kid back Home ( EL Salvador ) and got to like it even if I didn't understood the lyrics.

Does that make it gringo latino? or grindio? . I don't think so.

In fact, most people in latin america don't dress the way young latinos dress in Toronto.

It's funny. I grew up in Nicaragua and came to Canada as a teenager, and back home we made fun of people who went to clubs and danced salsa, merengue and anything "spanish". When they played that music at clubs, it was the time to go sit down and rest. NOBODY danced to that. We all danced to english music. As for fast food, we'd go to McDonald's and stuff 'cause that was the special thing to do. I didn't really get into patriotism and the crazy love for my land until I came here and got nostalgic. Sad but true.

angelita · Guru

Dogo wrote:

MJ & angelita

I don't really care. I'm not judgemental in that sense
Everybody can act as they wish, to eaches own
As long as they don't try to sell me that these are the REAL latinos, 'cause they're NOT
They are as gringo Latino as the next Latino living in Canada

IMO

-- Edited by Dogo at 23:11, 2006-10-11

True! I just thought it was funny when i read that, cause i have seriously been wanting to ask someone what that finger pointing thing means!!

Dogo · Comandante

MJ & angelita

I don't really care. I'm not judgemental in that sense
Everybody can act as they wish, to eaches own
As long as they don't try to sell me that these are the REAL latinos, 'cause they're NOT
They are as gringo Latino as the next Latino living in Canada

IMO

-- Edited by Dogo at 23:11, 2006-10-11

N3N1T4 · Regular Plus

This is the story of my life. My spanish is bad so the latinos shun me and my skin is dark so the whities shun me. I hate being in between. people should stop making these stupid distinctions.

angelita · Guru

Dogo wrote:

Amen!
Nor do they do funky hand shake that "real latinos" do here
Nor do they talk like "real latinos" do here
Nor do they play the same music there, that "real latinos" play in clubs here
And they'd probably slap us in the head if we did the "finger pointing" in una foto de la familia that "real latinos" do here... what the hell is it with the FINGER POINTING in every friggin picture!?
What does it friggin mean?!

I think those are the "real latinos" SN is referring to. The ones that are the farthest thing from real latin american people

LMAO!!! If it wasn't for MJ's post, i would not have read this!!

LOL Like seriously, what the hell does that finger pointing thing mean I've been trying to figure that out! I think it's so gay and it definately does not make you cool. I see Moet do that in every pic! LMAO

-- Edited by angelita at 22:59, 2006-10-11

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Dogo wrote:

FANTITO wrote:

I've seen the Rolling Stones 4 times, also Paul Mc Cartner (of the BEatles and WIng), Led Zeppelin,aswell as other english speaking great bands. Why? BEcause I 've heard that music since I was a kid back Home ( EL Salvador ) and got to like it even if I didn't understood the lyrics.

Does that make it gringo latino? or grindio? . I don't think so.

Music is like food, sometimes I feel like eating pupusas, and sometimes I feel like eating chinese food or hamburguers. Variety is the spice of life.

And yes, I can't dance salsa or bachata; but does that make me less latino than some one who does? or someone who wears those long Scarface shirts?

Let's remember that there are more than 20 spanish speaking countries and that salsa and bachata represents the caribbean region. What about those who don't dance tango, or don't have "El COndor pasa" as part of their music?, aren't they latinos?

In fact, most people in latin america don't dress the way young latinos dress in Toronto.

Amen!
Nor do they do funky hand shake that "real latinos" do here
Nor do they talk like "real latinos" do here
Nor do they play the same music there, that "real latinos" play in clubs here
And they'd probably slap us in the head if we did the "finger pointing" in una foto de la familia that "real latinos" do here... what the hell is it with the FINGER POINTING in every friggin picture!?
What does it friggin mean?!

I think those are the "real latinos" SN is referring to. The ones that are the farthest thing from real latin american people

EVERYTHING IS SO TRUE ESPECIALLY THAT FINGER POINTING ISSUE!!!!!

So ggggggggggaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Dogo · Comandante

Daeveed wrote:

confundida wrote:

CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON TIS????

Acording to sabornuevo, if you don't dance salsa, and you don't listen to salsa, and you don't like to eat salsa, then you're a gringo-latino by default.

Isn't SALSA itself "gringo latina" by origin?

Dogo · Comandante

FANTITO wrote:

I've seen the Rolling Stones 4 times, also Paul Mc Cartner (of the BEatles and WIng), Led Zeppelin,aswell as other english speaking great bands. Why? BEcause I 've heard that music since I was a kid back Home ( EL Salvador ) and got to like it even if I didn't understood the lyrics.

Does that make it gringo latino? or grindio? . I don't think so.

Music is like food, sometimes I feel like eating pupusas, and sometimes I feel like eating chinese food or hamburguers. Variety is the spice of life.

And yes, I can't dance salsa or bachata; but does that make me less latino than some one who does? or someone who wears those long Scarface shirts?

Let's remember that there are more than 20 spanish speaking countries and that salsa and bachata represents the caribbean region. What about those who don't dance tango, or don't have "El COndor pasa" as part of their music?, aren't they latinos?

In fact, most people in latin america don't dress the way young latinos dress in Toronto.

Amen!
Nor do they do funky hand shake that "real latinos" do here
Nor do they talk like "real latinos" do here
Nor do they play the same music there, that "real latinos" play in clubs here
And they'd probably slap us in the head if we did the "finger pointing" in una foto de la familia that "real latinos" do here... what the hell is it with the FINGER POINTING in every friggin picture!?
What does it friggin mean?!

I think those are the "real latinos" SN is referring to. The ones that are the farthest thing from real latin american people

FANTITO · Senior Member

I've seen the Rolling Stones 4 times, also Paul Mc Cartner (of the BEatles and WIng), Led Zeppelin,aswell as other english speaking great bands. Why? BEcause I 've heard that music since I was a kid back Home ( EL Salvador ) and got to like it even if I didn't understood the lyrics.

Does that make it gringo latino? or grindio? . I don't think so.

Music is like food, sometimes I feel like eating pupusas, and sometimes I feel like eating chinese food or hamburguers. Variety is the spice of life.

And yes, I can't dance salsa or bachata; but does that make me less latino than some one who does? or someone who wears those long Scarface shirts?

Let's remember that there are more than 20 spanish speaking countries and that salsa and bachata represents the caribbean region. What about those who don't dance tango, or don't have "El COndor pasa" as part of their music?, aren't they latinos?

In fact, most people in latin america don't dress the way young latinos dress in Toronto.

Daeveed · Foro Master

confundida wrote:

CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON TIS????

Acording to sabornuevo, if you don't dance salsa, and you don't listen to salsa, and you don't like to eat salsa, then you're a gringo-latino by default.

confundida · Foro Master

ANDN SN IS THE ONE TO TALK HE CANT EVEN SPEAK SPANISH!!!!!

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

confundida wrote:

CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON TIS????

To make a long story short, if you can't dance latin music or speak fluent spanish, or type on TH in english your are a Gringo Latino.
Latino's are not allowed to like other music and remain hispanic.

confundida · Foro Master

CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON TIS????

McOSIRIS · Comandante

don_plyero wrote:

do you know why we have both latin and english clubs in toronto?
CUZ ITS LIFE!!!!

this reminded me of that song IT'S MY LIFE by Dr. Alban...

don_plyero · Guru

do you know why we have both latin and english clubs in toronto?

CUZ ITS LIFE!!!!

careguea · Senior Member

I crap out empanadas....latino, i am.

TV Buff · TOP Guru

Quixote wrote:

I just asked someone and while either spelling is acceptable, 'Filipina' is much more popular.
and yes 'Philippines' remains safe and sound.

Hey Quixote, I meant to ask you, did you ever get that job in Cambridge and how did you end up getting there?

Also, what's your opinion of Fidel Castro?

Quixote · Guru

LaDyBuG wrote:

Quixote wrote:

Just an FYI, it is spelt 'Filipina'

REALLY?

But the country is still PHILLIPINES right?

Nevertheless.....it still makes Marky Mark....a "FILAHTINA" LOL

I just asked someone and while either spelling is acceptable, 'Filipina' is much more popular.

and yes 'Philippines' remains safe and sound.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

Quixote wrote:

Just an FYI, it is spelt 'Filipina'

REALLY?

But the country is still PHILLIPINES right?

Nevertheless.....it still makes Marky Mark....a "FILAHTINA" LOL

GENIE · Foro Master

Quixote wrote:

Just an FYI, it is spelt 'Filipina'

lol i know i was waiting for mimi or Lathina to point it out! but thanks for the FYI!

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Quixote wrote:

Just an FYI, it is spelt 'Filipina'

Quixote · Guru

Just an FYI, it is spelt 'Filipina'

LaDyBuG · Comandante

GENIE wrote:

NOPE ACCORDING to my friend who is married to a Philipina its PHILATINO!!!

ohhh I get it....so that would make Marky Mark a "PHILAHTINA"

GENIE · Foro Master

Dogo wrote:

Hmmm.... does this make MM a Philitino?

-- Edited by Dogo at 21:44, 2006-10-10

NOPE ACCORDING to my friend who is married to a Philipina its PHILATINO!!!

TV Buff · TOP Guru

neruda wrote:

Even though this post started off as being one the more asinine ones I began to read some of the responses and realized that it does hit a collective nerve among us. I cannot speak for anyone else but myself and will do so...

I came to torontohispano because i was indeed looking for people who have a hispanic background but were not the types I kept meeting in latino clubs in toronto. It seems I kept encountering the stereotypical latino (you know the ones that whites make fun of). I could not understand why that when I 've visited chile, or argentina, or spain, or even miami that I could easily meet intelligent professional latino's who didn't fit the stereotypical image. They didn't go to latino clubs, dance salsa eat the same latino foods. The listened to rock, were interested in foreign cultures including foods and languages, etc. They were in fact very cosmopolitan.

(My theory is that a lot of latinos in Canada are from the rural areas and were not very cosmopolitan when they livd there. Similarly, a lot of Woodbridge Italians and Portuguese are from the rural areas (villages and islands) and have very little in common then the italians from Rome/Milan or Lisbon)

However many latinos here generally seem to be very protective if not insular. They see anything latino as the best and resist the dominate culture. Great for preserving your heritage ...terrible for meeting new (and different) people.

If I may borrow from popular culture the case of the recent Survivor premise. I was total aghast at the racial divisions but then I slowly began to realize something. The show was illustrating the fact that just because you were of the same race it doesn't mean you will get along with each other. I bring up this example because when we moved to Canada my parents made an effort to hook up with other chilenos. However they became aware that the only thing they had in common with a lot of them was that they were from chile. They in fact became better friends with Canadians.

I tried hanging out in salsa clubs and even learned how to dance salsa because it was a way of meeting other latinos. When I go back to chile and hang out con mi primos no one dances salsa and they all listen to rock.

I still come to the foro because I encounter a lot of latinos who don't conform to the stereotypical notions of what it means to be latino. Something you, Sabornuevo, seem to want to change.

-- Edited by neruda at 17:32, 2006-10-10

Well, holly MFing sh-it! I never thought I'd say this but, boy, do I agree with you 100%!

McOSIRIS · Comandante

LaDyBuG wrote:

@ MC-MUSIC I bet you're thinking.....that there are no such problems in the "house music" world eh? LOL

the good think with house music is that it doesn't discriminate any musical influences.... so you can have a house song with rock, congas, hip hop, etc....

and yes... the fashion related to the house music scene is so much better... and I'm not talking about the gotti or gino style...(those two are like the ghetto flash in the hip hop industry)

LaDyBuG · Comandante

@ MC-MUSIC

I bet you're thinking.....that there are no such problems in the "house music" world eh? LOL

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Motown Junkie wrote:

Amen!!! Anyone who thinks Privilege is CLASSY is either under the age of 19, is GHETTO (obviously doesn't know better), and/or is super dooper cool like Danny! Gimme a freakin' break!!!!If that makes me "HIGH CLASS" and "ANTI-GHETTO" then hell yeah, sign me up!!! Who the hell wants to be GHETTO???!!!! Is being ghetto the "cool" thing to do now???!!!! <------I rather be this guy!!!!

I rather jump on the rail tracks before I follow this trend....

LaDyBuG · Comandante

DANNY wrote:

get real ladybug....i totaly dissagree on that..

hes ecuadorian by blood meaning thanx to his parents ..thats it...

if he has no education when it comes to culture, history, geography of back home ..at least a tad bit off it....then sorry to say..

but i think the next gringuito who is a tourist (you know...the ones who go backpacking to south america..)....is more ecuadorian then he is...

and thats terribly embarrassing

So when people ask him his Nationaility.....what will he say he is?

I'm an "Ecua-Gringo"??? LOL

Tell me this.....WHY do YOU think some people don't "keep up" or nurture their culture here for example, in Toronto......this includes everything..language, history, food, music, geography....etc (I gave you my reasons...don't you agree with them?)

And second question....Is it really fair to look down on them, and treat them less, and poke fun because YOU think they are an embarrassment to their race/culture?

Daeveed · Foro Master

@Neruda: Your comments are very accurate. In my case, I was already interacting with a few other cultures before coming to Canada, and to think of cultures in terms of right or wrong, only gives way to ever-growing stereotypes and animosity between them. Which incidentally is what we saw in this thread's first post.

DANNY · Guru

LaDyBuG wrote:

Some people's lives just takes a different turn.....at the end of the day if you're both born in Ecuador and you speak it and he doesn't .....it doesn't make him any less Ecuadorian than you......

get real ladybug....i totaly dissagree on that..

hes ecuadorian by blood meaning thanx to his parents ..thats it...

if he has no education when it comes to culture, history, geography of back home ..at least a tad bit off it....then sorry to say..

but i think the next gringuito who is a tourist (you know...the ones who go backpacking to south america..)....is more ecuadorian then he is...

and thats terribly embarrassing

DANNY · Guru

Motown Junkie wrote:

PRINCESSA wrote:

DANNY wrote:

u know..the ones that think they r higher class..anti ghetto.. to be chilling in privlige on weekends...

we have a hand full of them here.... ohhh welll to each's own
-- Edited by DANNY at 14:48, 2006-10-10

I think I fall in this category.

I really don't enjoy in any way Privilege, like the location but the crowed is waaaay to harsh for my like & the music is not the greatest in my opinion.

Amen!!!

Anyone who thinks Privilege is CLASSY is either under the age of 19, is GHETTO (obviously doesn't know better), and/or is super dooper cool like Danny!

Gimme a freakin' break!!!!

If that makes me "HIGH CLASS" and "ANTI-GHETTO" then hell yeah, sign me up!!! Who the hell wants to be GHETTO???!!!!

Is being ghetto the "cool" thing to do now???!!!!

<------I rather be this guy!!!!

lol!!!

i never said privlige is classy or unclassy....

its mind kind of environment for the time being...i dont mind it...

im not like many of you..who let a couple of 5'1 wannabe gangsta posing spics spoil my night...and fun time...

Quixote · Guru

I skimmed through this thread but I think care should be taken when voicing what constitutes a 'real Latino' in a country such as Canada. The definition of 'real Latino' is too subjective but I laugh when music and clubs are used to define who is a 'real Latino'.

The world is too rich for Latinos to needlessly pigeonhole themselves into stereotypical behaviour and interests.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

Motown Junkie wrote:

<------I rather be this guy!!!!

_______________________________________________________________________

hahahahahahahahahah

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

PRINCESSA wrote:

DANNY wrote:

u know..the ones that think they r higher class..anti ghetto.. to be chilling in privlige on weekends...

we have a hand full of them here.... ohhh welll to each's own
-- Edited by DANNY at 14:48, 2006-10-10

I think I fall in this category.

I really don't enjoy in any way Privilege, like the location but the crowed is waaaay to harsh for my like & the music is not the greatest in my opinion.

Amen!!!

Anyone who thinks Privilege is CLASSY is either under the age of 19, is GHETTO (obviously doesn't know better), and/or is super dooper cool like Danny!

Gimme a freakin' break!!!!

If that makes me "HIGH CLASS" and "ANTI-GHETTO" then hell yeah, sign me up!!! Who the hell wants to be GHETTO???!!!!

Is being ghetto the "cool" thing to do now???!!!!

<------I rather be this guy!!!!

Dogo · Comandante

Hmmm.... does this make MM a Philitino?

-- Edited by Dogo at 21:44, 2006-10-10

Mastropiero · Guru

neruda wrote:

It could have been worse ...they could have made me hangout with people like Sabornuevo or Danny.

I'm so glad I was not brought up here!

miguel · TOP Guru

@neruda: you said a lot of things i wanted to say but chose not to say. my experiences going back to peru are very similar to what yours are like in chile.

neruda · Guru

It could have been worse ...they could have made me hangout with people like Sabornuevo or Danny.

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Phantasma wrote:

Your parents made you hang out with Chilenos? Oh I can only imagine how horrible that must have been for you!

I happen to know some chilenos myself, and they're all a bunch of stoners!

that's a fallacy.....

chileans don't smoke illicit subtances...

Phantasma · TOP Guru

LaDyBuG wrote:

@ NERUDA

I can totally relate to the comment you made about your parents making efforts to hang out with other Chilenos when you first got here......and how you said that all you had in common was "being from Chile"......which is obviously not enough to build a long lasting relationship on....this has to do a lot with the levels of class, education...etc....

Your parents made you hang out with Chilenos? Oh I can only imagine how horrible that must have been for you!

I happen to know some chilenos myself, and they're all a bunch of stoners!

neruda · Guru

Thank you for your affirmation.

When I've travelled I have met many other Canadians. Some I liked and others I couldn't stand. Just because we were Canadians doesn't mean we had that much in common.

-- Edited by neruda at 17:58, 2006-10-10

LaDyBuG · Comandante

@ NERUDA

I can totally relate to the comment you made about your parents making efforts to hang out with other Chilenos when you first got here......and how you said that all you had in common was "being from Chile"......which is obviously not enough to build a long lasting relationship on....this has to do a lot with the levels of class, education...etc....