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One guy back home used to have this kind of astral projection experiences.  He told me it all started when some of his brother's friend slept at his house, he believed those guys were into gnostic (white magic occult staff) . He told me that he could see his body in bed as he was "floating" on air ,and also felt the presence of another "being" close in the room.


Well, I know some people call it "el hilo de plata" the silver thread I guess.  I beleive they say if you want to return to your body you should touch your belly.  I also heard that if in your dream you wanna make sure is only a dream, then you should pull one finger,and if it becomes longer then you are dreaming or something like that, i forgot about it.


I also heard that you should always try to go back and not let any entity to take you away from your body, the further away,the harder to come back. That's what they say.







I found a few of the things that you mentioned interesting. Touching your belly if you want to return to your body...well I found that interesting, because I remember that someone told me that the way demons poses your body is by going through your stomach first.  Also, if one demon leaves your body, but then returns, it returns with 9 more demons.  Freaky if you ask me.


I heard something similar to the last thing you mentioned, but what I heard is that if you let and entity take you away, you will die in your sleep. 





Yes, I believe there's a mayor "Chakra" in the belly". I don;t recall how is called; but is the point where the "hilo de plata" starts.  It probably has something to do with our attachment to our mothers for nourishment while in the womb.  Yes, I heard some people can pass away if taken away by an entity.  Of course, sometimes people who have had accidents recall seing themselves from above, and when paramedics do their job, people describe it as going back to the body very quickly.  Thus, those who don't return to their bodies are the ones that don't come back.  I guess most follow the brigth ligth.  But in the case of astral projection, an entity could have taken them away.  Is better not to practice such things , I believe.


 



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One guy back home used to have this kind of astral projection experiences.  He told me it all started when some of his brother's friend slept at his house, he believed those guys were into gnostic (white magic occult staff) . He told me that he could see his body in bed as he was "floating" on air ,and also felt the presence of another "being" close in the room.


Well, I know some people call it "el hilo de plata" the silver thread I guess.  I beleive they say if you want to return to your body you should touch your belly.  I also heard that if in your dream you wanna make sure is only a dream, then you should pull one finger,and if it becomes longer then you are dreaming or something like that, i forgot about it.


I also heard that you should always try to go back and not let any entity to take you away from your body, the further away,the harder to come back. That's what they say.






I found a few of the things that you mentioned interesting. Touching your belly if you want to return to your body...well I found that interesting, because I remember that someone told me that the way demons poses your body is by going through your stomach first.  Also, if one demon leaves your body, but then returns, it returns with 9 more demons.  Freaky if you ask me.


I heard something similar to the last thing you mentioned, but what I heard is that if you let and entity take you away, you will die in your sleep. 



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Don Chelo - That is a good story and I think Dogo is correct about this being an instance of Astral Projection.   


I think we know just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Astral Projection. As tempting and wonderful as it sounds, I think there is a risk of significant danger and evil when it comes to astral projection.  Along with Ouija boards, it is not to be taken lightly.


 







YES, I THINK IS SOME WT DANGEROUS AND EVIL BUT I CAN'T CONTROL IT. IT JUST HAPPENS. ONLY ONE TIME I TRIED IT WHEN I HAD JUST WOKE UP I SD LETS SEE IF I CAN CONTROL IT AND I DID MANAGE TO GET TO DAT STAGE, HOWEVER I HEARD SCARY SOUNDS AND I FELT AN EVIL PRESENCE. I ALSO FELT LIKE I WAS BEING HOLD DOWN AND THEN THEY SHOOK ME HARD AND I WAS OUT OF THAT STATE OF MIND. 


U GUYS CAN START CALLING ME DON PSYCHO NOW!!!





One guy back home used to have this kind of astral projection experiences.  He told me it all started when some of his brother's friend slept at his house, he believed those guys were into gnostic (white magic occult staff) . He told me that he could see his body in bed as he was "floating" on air ,and also felt the presence of another "being" close in the room.


Well, I know some people call it "el hilo de plata" the silver thread I guess.  I beleive they say if you want to return to your body you should touch your belly.  I also heard that if in your dream you wanna make sure is only a dream, then you should pull one finger,and if it becomes longer then you are dreaming or something like that, i forgot about it.


I also heard that you should always try to go back and not let any entity to take you away from your body, the further away,the harder to come back. That's what they say.



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Don Chelo - That is a good story and I think Dogo is correct about this being an instance of Astral Projection.   


I think we know just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Astral Projection. As tempting and wonderful as it sounds, I think there is a risk of significant danger and evil when it comes to astral projection.  Along with Ouija boards, it is not to be taken lightly.


 






YES, I THINK IS SOME WT DANGEROUS AND EVIL BUT I CAN'T CONTROL IT. IT JUST HAPPENS. ONLY ONE TIME I TRIED IT WHEN I HAD JUST WOKE UP I SD LETS SEE IF I CAN CONTROL IT AND I DID MANAGE TO GET TO DAT STAGE, HOWEVER I HEARD SCARY SOUNDS AND I FELT AN EVIL PRESENCE. I ALSO FELT LIKE I WAS BEING HOLD DOWN AND THEN THEY SHOOK ME HARD AND I WAS OUT OF THAT STATE OF MIND. 


U GUYS CAN START CALLING ME DON PSYCHO NOW!!!



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Don Chelo - That is a good story and I think Dogo is correct about this being an instance of Astral Projection.   


I think we know just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Astral Projection. As tempting and wonderful as it sounds, I think there is a risk of significant danger and evil when it comes to astral projection.  Along with Ouija boards, it is not to be taken lightly.


 



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Or maybe you got THIS






WHO KNOWS WT I GOT BUT IS FREAKY CAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED A FEW TIMES!!!



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I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE GOING CRAZY!!!


ALTHOUGH PEOPLE SAY IS DUE TO THE ACTIVITY OF THE CONCIOUS AND SUB-CONCIOUS MIND COMMUNICATING A FEW NANO SECONDS TO LATE. THIS CREATES DEJA VU AND OTHER UNEXPLAIN REACTIONS TO YOUR BRAIN. MAKING YOU BELIEVE U SEEN AND HEARD STUFF. HOWEVER, I THINK IS SOME WT TRUE AND B.S. THE REASON WHY; IS MY UNEXPLAIN EXPERIENCE. 


I WAS SLEPPING AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN I WOKE UP AND I WAS SO TIRED THAT I WENT BK TO SLEEP BUT I WAS IN A STATE OF HALF ASLEEP AND HALF AWAKE. WHEN DAT HAPPENED I WAS FLOATING OUT OF MY BODY AND I SAW A LITTLE GIRL. SHE WAS ASKING ME HOW TO FIND HER WAY. ALL OF THE SUDDEN I RAISED HIGHER IN DA AIR AND I SAW A BRIGHT LIKE AND I TOLD HER DATS UR WAY. AS SOON AS I SD DAT AND I WAS HIGHER IN DA AIR I COULD SEE THE CEMETARY DATS LIKE 5 BLOCKS AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. ALL OF THE SUDDEN I SAW HUNDREDS OF SOULS COMING TO MY HOUSE AND ASKING FOR HELP. I SD SHE KNOWS THE WAY FOLLOW HER AND PLZ LET MY HOUSE BE AT PEACE. AS SOON AS DAT HAPPENED I WOKE UP. I FORGOT TO MENTIONED DAT LATER I FOUND OUT DAT A MAN HAD DIED IN MY ROOM AND I CAN ALWAYS FEEL SOMEONES PRESENCE IN DA ROOM. ALSO MY WHOLE FAMILLY WILL HEAR THINGS AND LIGHTS WILL GO OFF AND STUFF. HONESTLY, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY OR IT WAS JUST A DREAM. BUT, HERE IS THE BUT.... I WAS GOING TO EAT WITH 2 FRIENDS AT CHINATOWN WHEN I NEEDED MY FRIEND TO TELL ME IF I WAS TO CLOSE TO THE CAR BEHIND SINCE IT WAS A MIATA AND I COULDN'T SEE IT. HE GOT OFF THE CAR AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN HE WAS AS WHITE AS PAPER. I ASKED HIM WHATS WRONG AND THE FIRST THING HE SD IS "DID A LITTLE GIRL DIED IN UR FAMILLY???" I SD "NO, WHY???" HE SD I JUST SAW A LITTLE GIRL SITTING BEHIND U AS U PARKED. SHE IS TAKING CARE OF U. I WAS FREAK OUT AND I ASKED HIM TO DESCRIBE WT SHE WAS WEARING AND HOW SHE LOOKED. IT WAS DA SAME GIRL I HELP TO FIND HER WAY. AFTER I SEARCH ON SOME BOOKS ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL AND I FOUND OUT THAT WHEN U ARE HALF AWAKE AND HALF SLEEP U ARE IN DA PERFECT ALIGNMENT TO BE WT ALBERT EINSTEIN DESCRIBES AS AN ETERNAL SOURCE OF ENERGY. IS SD DAT THIS HAPPES TO PEOPLE DAT HAVE PSYCHIC ABILITIES MUCH STRONGER AND TO PEOPLE DAT DO YOGA SINCE THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND PERFECT BODY BALANCE. 


 






Or maybe you got THIS



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I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE GOING CRAZY!!!


ALTHOUGH PEOPLE SAY IS DUE TO THE ACTIVITY OF THE CONCIOUS AND SUB-CONCIOUS MIND COMMUNICATING A FEW NANO SECONDS TO LATE. THIS CREATES DEJA VU AND OTHER UNEXPLAIN REACTIONS TO YOUR BRAIN. MAKING YOU BELIEVE U SEEN AND HEARD STUFF. HOWEVER, I THINK IS SOME WT TRUE AND B.S. THE REASON WHY; IS MY UNEXPLAIN EXPERIENCE. 


I WAS SLEPPING AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN I WOKE UP AND I WAS SO TIRED THAT I WENT BK TO SLEEP BUT I WAS IN A STATE OF HALF ASLEEP AND HALF AWAKE. WHEN DAT HAPPENED I WAS FLOATING OUT OF MY BODY AND I SAW A LITTLE GIRL. SHE WAS ASKING ME HOW TO FIND HER WAY. ALL OF THE SUDDEN I RAISED HIGHER IN DA AIR AND I SAW A BRIGHT LIKE AND I TOLD HER DATS UR WAY. AS SOON AS I SD DAT AND I WAS HIGHER IN DA AIR I COULD SEE THE CEMETARY DATS LIKE 5 BLOCKS AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. ALL OF THE SUDDEN I SAW HUNDREDS OF SOULS COMING TO MY HOUSE AND ASKING FOR HELP. I SD SHE KNOWS THE WAY FOLLOW HER AND PLZ LET MY HOUSE BE AT PEACE. AS SOON AS DAT HAPPENED I WOKE UP. I FORGOT TO MENTIONED DAT LATER I FOUND OUT DAT A MAN HAD DIED IN MY ROOM AND I CAN ALWAYS FEEL SOMEONES PRESENCE IN DA ROOM. ALSO MY WHOLE FAMILLY WILL HEAR THINGS AND LIGHTS WILL GO OFF AND STUFF. HONESTLY, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY OR IT WAS JUST A DREAM. BUT, HERE IS THE BUT.... I WAS GOING TO EAT WITH 2 FRIENDS AT CHINATOWN WHEN I NEEDED MY FRIEND TO TELL ME IF I WAS TO CLOSE TO THE CAR BEHIND SINCE IT WAS A MIATA AND I COULDN'T SEE IT. HE GOT OFF THE CAR AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN HE WAS AS WHITE AS PAPER. I ASKED HIM WHATS WRONG AND THE FIRST THING HE SD IS "DID A LITTLE GIRL DIED IN UR FAMILLY???" I SD "NO, WHY???" HE SD I JUST SAW A LITTLE GIRL SITTING BEHIND U AS U PARKED. SHE IS TAKING CARE OF U. I WAS FREAK OUT AND I ASKED HIM TO DESCRIBE WT SHE WAS WEARING AND HOW SHE LOOKED. IT WAS DA SAME GIRL I HELP TO FIND HER WAY. AFTER I SEARCH ON SOME BOOKS ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL AND I FOUND OUT THAT WHEN U ARE HALF AWAKE AND HALF SLEEP U ARE IN DA PERFECT ALIGNMENT TO BE WT ALBERT EINSTEIN DESCRIBES AS AN ETERNAL SOURCE OF ENERGY. IS SD DAT THIS HAPPES TO PEOPLE DAT HAVE PSYCHIC ABILITIES MUCH STRONGER AND TO PEOPLE DAT DO YOGA SINCE THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND PERFECT BODY BALANCE. 


 



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ok, here goes my Supernatural Experience.  It was about 10:30 pm. and I was getting ready for bed.  Anway I have a queen bed but I always sleep in the left side of the bed. The other side is always empty.  I was in my side of the bed, with all the lights out, just in the dark trying to sleep, when I feel like someone sits in the other side of the bed, no one opened the door and I felt like the bed moved like some one just sit down in one corner and then laid beside me.  I was facing the wall and try to turn to the right to see who was laying there with me.  I was frozen, and could not do it, I was paralized. Anyway after like 4 minutes, I felt like this person got up and I turned, nothing was there.


I ran to my sisters bedroom and stayed there for the night, I was really affraid.  My mom saids it was probably her grandma, I was freaking out.


Very true experience.


Yesi



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I used to think that north americans didn't believe in such things, but they also believe in that stuff, it's just that they don't like to talk about them in public.


Listen to am 640 every night and you'll be surprised about the topics this guy Bell talks about, his program is called " Coast to coast" and they even talk about Chupacabras, the paralysis you mentioned, and that women who visit some men ( known as "burletas" in spanish), and other stuff like that.


People please, don't let your children play Ouja ,some people say that that's a door to other dimensions.





TT - good point on the Coast to Coast show.  It is a very good program in that they will talk about anything.  Sometimes that works against the show as they occasionally allot too much time for guests who are too far gone from reality.



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Ghosts, U.F.O., Ouija boards, E.S.P., reincarnation, deja vu, out of body experiences.. these are examples of things that continue to confound and fascinate the human mind.


Hispanics have tendencies to be superstitious resulting in a mix of fear and respect for the supernatural. I have noticed however, that current generations report, or talk less about supernatural experiences.  It seems that the fear and respect for the unknown is dissipating.


Do you have any first hand experiences with anything unusual or inexplicable? 






Hispanics have tendencies to be superstitious resulting in a mix of fear and respect for the supernatural.


I used to think that north americans didn't believe in such things, but they also believe in that stuff, it's just that they don't like to talk about them in public.


Listen to am 640 every night and you'll be surprised about the topics this guy Bell talks about, his program is called " Coast to coast" and they even talk about Chupacabras, the paralysis you mentioned, and that women who visit some men ( known as "burletas" in spanish), and other stuff like that.


People please, don't let your children play Ouja ,some people say that that's a door to other dimensions.



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What a few of you have described is akin to sleep paralysis.  I think it is common.


The curious thing is why do people who experience this paralysis seem to feel and see the same things (ie. seeing someone in the room, pressure on the chest, etc.)?     If they are indeed hallucinations, why are the hallucinations so similar?  Is it the mind that is envisioning the worst case scenario in a state of sleep paralysis?  Strange stuff.


Here is an articule about sleep paralysis


http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000b.htm


@ Jaime - your experience is disturbing because two people felt and saw the same thing.  Good idea on the house blessing!


 you know what had i been the only one in the house to feel it i would say yes you have a point it sounds NORMAL however nobody had ever expereienced it untill my brother moved in to the same room i was in he told me about it and it just freaked me out now i have slept in every room in that house and I have lived in other apts but it has only every happend and not just once but many times in that same room to two different ppl?? I dont know about you but thats kinda freaky no??


And yeah like Sweetness i too did pray alot while i was feeling that. But for me and my brother it was weired cuz we didnt feel pressure or anything it felt more like someone was holding my arms and my legs two seperate sets of hands!


 



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What a few of you have described is akin to sleep paralysis.  I think it is common.


The curious thing is why do people who experience this paralysis seem to feel and see the same things (ie. seeing someone in the room, pressure on the chest, etc.)?     If they are indeed hallucinations, why are the hallucinations so similar?  Is it the mind that is envisioning the worst case scenario in a state of sleep paralysis?  Strange stuff.


Here is an articule about sleep paralysis


http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000b.htm


@ Jaime - your experience is disturbing because two people felt and saw the same thing.  Good idea on the house blessing!


 


 



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 Like Genie, I too have felt that something was holding me down.  I couldn't move at all.  I could hardly keep my eyes open as well.  All I remember is that I was lying in bed and I saw my bedroom door open, and heard my brother say my name, but I did not see my brother.  I tried to answer him, but I couldn't speak for some odd reason.  So what I did was start to pray in my head, and when I did I saw a dark shadow pass right in front of me and out my bedroom door.  Even though this shadow was gone...I still could not move or talk, so I kept on praying.  While I was praying another shadow went past me and out the door, and still I could not move or talk, so I continued to pray.  Finally the third and last shadow left my room, and I immediately was able to move and talk.  Very freaky, but I knew what to do, because I am Christian and was told that these are spiritual attacks.  So basically something is trying to poses you or frighten you but you need to fight back by praying.  If you're Christian you should understand.

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This has happened to me a few times, some would explain it as "anxiety attacks".  That you feel heaviness on your chest and stuff but I dont buy that.  As for playing the ouija board, I was told by my aunt that apparently one of the spirits actually tried to take over me but that I have a very strong and good guardian angel who protected me.  Hence my tattoo.



           I truly dont think its an anxiety attack for one reason i have had those a few times and when i get them i feel that i cant breath! But the holding i have felt or did feel was someone holding my arms not hugging me or nada just my arms and i could feel hands fingers jabbing me so mine was not an anxiety attack!


        LOL yeah i was once told que el dia that i was born i had la Virgen de Altagracia with me and that to this day she protects me in everyway!


   



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Both my daughter and I saw a ghost at my mom's a few years ago.  And I used to play the Ouija board when I was younger.  Believe me, that stuff is real and its no joke





I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever play with that. I'm the biggest chicken sh-it that ever lived. But this is a very interesting topic. I'm surprised no one had come up with it yet. I'll think about this one some more, 'cause I've had some weird experiences.





UMMM it has come up before many times but always new and interesting.


Now that i have a doggie it freaks me out cuz sometimes he will bark at the wall and they say animals have a sense of the supernatural.


I have expereinced it in my mothers apt i have seen ghost twice and when i was awake and trying to roll over in bed i felt someone holding me and not letting me move i was wide awake and then when my brother moved into that room he had the same experiences! Freaky!


I was also visited by my grandfather the day after he died he came to say goodbye and I was up reading a book for school when he just appeared and told me to take care of my momy y tia! Then he said otherstuff which was great!


I also played with an ouija board with my mom tia and there friends! the next day we had to get the house blessed cuz the spirit didnt leave!


freak freaky stuff and i strongly believe in all this and have had one two many experiences




This has happened to me a few times, some would explain it as "anxiety attacks".  That you feel heaviness on your chest and stuff but I dont buy that.  As for playing the ouija board, I was told by my aunt that apparently one of the spirits actually tried to take over me but that I have a very strong and good guardian angel who protected me.  Hence my tattoo.

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Both my daughter and I saw a ghost at my mom's a few years ago.  And I used to play the Ouija board when I was younger.  Believe me, that stuff is real and its no joke





I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever play with that. I'm the biggest chicken sh-it that ever lived. But this is a very interesting topic. I'm surprised no one had come up with it yet. I'll think about this one some more, 'cause I've had some weird experiences.




UMMM it has come up before many times but always new and interesting.


Now that i have a doggie it freaks me out cuz sometimes he will bark at the wall and they say animals have a sense of the supernatural.


I have expereinced it in my mothers apt i have seen ghost twice and when i was awake and trying to roll over in bed i felt someone holding me and not letting me move i was wide awake and then when my brother moved into that room he had the same experiences! Freaky!


I was also visited by my grandfather the day after he died he came to say goodbye and I was up reading a book for school when he just appeared and told me to take care of my momy y tia! Then he said otherstuff which was great!


I also played with an ouija board with my mom tia and there friends! the next day we had to get the house blessed cuz the spirit didnt leave!


freak freaky stuff and i strongly believe in all this and have had one two many experiences



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Both my daughter and I saw a ghost at my mom's a few years ago.  And I used to play the Ouija board when I was younger.  Believe me, that stuff is real and its no joke




I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever play with that. I'm the biggest chicken sh-it that ever lived. But this is a very interesting topic. I'm surprised no one had come up with it yet. I'll think about this one some more, 'cause I've had some weird experiences.

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Both my daughter and I saw a ghost at my mom's a few years ago.  And I used to play the Ouija board when I was younger.  Believe me, that stuff is real and its no joke



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Yup


When my daugther was only a few weeks old, I remember sitting in my rocking chair in the wee hours of the morning, half asleep myself, I saw a silhouette of my dead grandfather (he was even wearing a fedora hat that he always wore when he was alive).  He was kind of bending over as if trying to get a peek of the baby. 


I got up right away and went to hide under the covers.



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Ghosts, U.F.O., Ouija boards, E.S.P., reincarnation, deja vu, out of body experiences.. these are examples of things that continue to confound and fascinate the human mind.


Hispanics have tendencies to be superstitious resulting in a mix of fear and respect for the supernatural. I have noticed however, that current generations report, or talk less about supernatural experiences.  It seems that the fear and respect for the unknown is dissipating.


Do you have any first hand experiences with anything unusual or inexplicable? 




2 months ago my wife and I could swear that we saw a ghost in our house.
We were both watching TV in the dark. The only light was coming from the TV. We were sitting side by side and all of a sudden something caught our attention. We both looked to the left and down the hall we both saw a lady in white just walk by. It was creepy. The room felt cold and we both saw it and had the same description of what we saw.
First thing we did the next day was have a priest come and bless the house.
Haven't had any incidents since.

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Ghosts, U.F.O., Ouija boards, E.S.P., reincarnation, deja vu, out of body experiences.. these are examples of things that continue to confound and fascinate the human mind.


Hispanics have tendencies to be superstitious resulting in a mix of fear and respect for the supernatural. I have noticed however, that current generations report, or talk less about supernatural experiences.  It seems that the fear and respect for the unknown is dissipating.


Do you have any first hand experiences with anything unusual or inexplicable? 



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