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GENIE wrote:


Actually Rep if a mall security stop you they can ask you to Voulentarliy show them your belongings however if you refuse to they can hold you untill a real police officer comes! once that has happened then you will be in custody but untill that point they can not Search you! they can apply force to a certain degree they can handcuff you but then again they will have to prove in a court of law that you were a risk to them!  


Hence my quote:  "What they nomally do is detain you and call the popo "  I even got to use that cute emoticon!!! 


If the person getting arrested has a broken arm, black eye or whatever then YEAH, they have to explain themselves in court but not if they handcuff that person.  It could be the equival of a citizen's arrest.    meh



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Actually Rep if a mall security stop you they can ask you to Voulentarliy show them your belongings however if you refuse to they can hold you untill a real police officer comes! once that has happened then you will be in custody but untill that point they can not Search you!


they can apply force to a certain degree they can handcuff you but then again they will have to prove in a court of law that you were a risk to them!


 



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Motown Junkie wrote: It's called "FINDS COMMITTING".   Basically if you have enough facts or circumstances that'll satisfy someone for enough reason to believe a "crime" is committed as opposed to mere suspicion. Ok - So Lets Say That I Walk Into Dufferin Mall Walmart Through The Parking Lot Entrance And Cut Right Through The Store Exit Through Other Mall Entrance . . . Then The Alarm Goes Off . . . If I Am Approached By The Store Security And Do Not Cooperate With Them Can They Use Force ? ? ? What Can They Legally Do ?  


Doesn't that say enough?!  You not cooperating I would think is reason enough to search you and I've seen them use force but I dunno!!  What they normally do is detain you and call the popo! 


  I was more a homicide chick.  This CCC crap made me yawn!!!! 



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It's called "FINDS COMMITTING".   Basically if you have enough facts or circumstances that'll satisfy someone for enough reason to believe a "crime" is committed as opposed to mere suspicion.


Ok - So Lets Say That I Walk Into Dufferin Mall Walmart Through The Parking Lot Entrance And Cut Right Through The Store Exit Through Other Mall Entrance . . . Then The Alarm Goes Off . . .


If I Am Approached By The Store Security And Do Not Cooperate With Them Can They Use Force ? ? ?


What Can They Legally Do ?


 



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Does Anyone Know What The Laws Are On This Topic . . . Can Mall Security Stop And Search you Under Only Suspision ? ? ? If The Store Alarm Goes Off And You Refuse To Show Them Your Bags - What Can They Do ? ? ?  - Take Notes MC O -


It's called "FINDS COMMITTING".


  Basically if you have enough facts or circumstances that'll satisfy someone for enough reason to believe a "crime" is committed as opposed to mere suspicion.


Or, seeing the person commit the offence and immediately or continuously pursuing the offender.


*sigh*  I want to go back to school. 



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Does Anyone Know What The Laws Are On This Topic . . .


Can Mall Security Stop And Search you Under Only Suspision ? ? ?


If The Store Alarm Goes Off And You Refuse To Show Them Your Bags - What Can They Do ? ? ? 



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Report: Wal-Mart loosens shoplifting policy
No. 1 retailer will only press charges if shoplifters take at least $25, in change to zero-tolerance policy.
July 13 2006: 7:22 AM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Wal-Mart is moving away from what it called a zero-tolerance policy on prosecuting shoplifters and will now only prosecute anyone caught taking merchandise worth $25 or more, according to a published report.

The New York Times reports the change in policy, citing internal documents from Wal-Mart that say it will now only press charges against those between the ages of 18 and 64 who take at least $25 worth of goods. Formerly its policy was to press charges against anyone who took at least $3 in goods.


Wal-Mart is reportedly changing its zero-tolerance policy on shoplifters.

The paper said the change in policy will allow Wal-Mart to concentrate on theft by professional shoplifters and its own employees. The paper said those two groups steal the bulk of merchandise from the chain.

"If I have somebody being paid $12 an hour processing a $5 theft, I have just lost money," J. P. Suarez, who is in charge of asset protection at Wal-Mart, told the paper. "I have also lost the time to catch somebody stealing $100 or an organized group stealing $3,000."

Wal-Mart told the paper it would closely track shoplifters it did not have arrested, and would ask that they be prosecuted after a second incident. It will also seek the prosecution of all suspected shoplifters who threaten violence or fail to produce identification, no matter how much they are trying to steal, according to the report, which said professional shoplifters often do not carry ID in order to avoid arrest.

The change will also put the company's policy in line with most of its major competitors.

The paper said that the change also will answer complaints of small-town police departments across the country who have protested the previous zero-tolerance policy. At some stores police were making up to six arrests a day, according to the report, which said some departments had to hire extra officers just to handle the Wal-Mart arrests.

The paper said it was given the documents detailing the new policy by WakeUpWalMart.com, an anti-Wal-Mart group that told the paper it received the documents from a former employee at the chain who is unhappy with the new policy.

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