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Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

RE: SHOT IN THE FACE POINT BLANK RANGE

El Pibe · Guru

No one here is saying that ALL people of colour are killers, rapists, or theives. It is a very bad stereo type that all of these races carry with them, because of the 2% or 3% of that race that decide to act upon their uncontrolled mentality. It is stupid to say that ALL Latino's are this, or that ALL blacks are that. We all know the truth, we are not ignorant to it. We know that it is a very small percentage of each culture that act this way, that commit crimes. But when all you here in the news is that suspects are constantly black or latino, it hard for some people to think differently.

I do not beleive that EVERYONE from a coloured background, is a criminal, a gansta, or a drug dealer. The way you present yourself also plays a role in how society will look at you, if anyone (white, black, latino, etc) is walking about with clothes 5 times bigger then them, and all they do is swear, and use slang when they speak, then that stereo type will be believed. But I'm pretty sure that everyone here has an office job, and that they present themselves in a respectable manner, not sloppy, business casual, and what kind of looks do you get at work??? Not the same ones you would get if you went in with big baggy jeans and a basketball jersey.

So why live up to those stereo types??? If you want to be treated differently, then its in your hands to change the way people see you. Just because your appearance may change abit it doesn't mean that you forget who you are. This is just MY OPINION on this topic.

Phantasma · TOP Guru

Chica W wrote:

And did I say that rick was racist ??
It was just a general comment.

my grandmother used to say: El que le pica, que se rasque... lol

El Duro · Foro Master

Phantasma wrote:

Rick and MJ... if you dont feel you are prejudiced then dont include yourselves. I did not name any names. Also, MJ we are talkin about Toronto, but if Blacks are somehow criminal by nature than it stands to reasons that blacks everywhere would exibit this trait. Or is there something about Toronto that makes black people go on these murderous rampages? I blame the Raptors... they havent had a descent season in years.. that'll make any bother wanna shoot people!

...

then I guess the white people will go on a shooting rampage because the leaf haven't won the stanley cup since 1967

-- Edited by El Duro at 11:55, 2006-07-18

Chica W · Guru

rick wrote:

Chica W wrote: Phantasma wrote: . Its unfortunate that we devide ourselves in the basics of colours... specially since as Latinos we are viewed no better than your average black man on the street. When they look at YOU, to them you are just a lighter shade of ****... keep that in you mind. Not only that, but we got black people in out own race you dumbasses... It amazes me how dumb some people are. I swear I am disgusted as I type this. Anyone ever been to Cuba? Dominican? Venezuela? Puerto Rico? Ecuador (Esmeralda)? La Costa de Peru? and countless other LATIN countries? Even if you never set foot outside Toronto, you ever seen Carlos Cruz? Alex Bello? Wilson Manuel? Charlie Moet? I guess those people there are LAtin and BLACK so they probably stab you then shoot you. In reality most crime is commited by POOR people. It just so happen that in North America we got an overwhelming amount of people of colour (this means both black and LATINO) livin in Poverty plus a person of colour is 3 times more likely (this is in the states) to be convicted of a crime than a white person. So even though statistically more crime is commited by white, more blacks and latinos end up in prison. The media also tends to over present these crimes thus giving the IMPRESSION that more crime is comitted by colour people. Same reason why people are afraid of air travel even tho there are thousands more car crashes every year, its because everytime there is a car accident it doesnt make it into the news. We are the plane crashes. Well said, I agree. I think that no matter where we go we should always be cautious...anyone can be carrying a weapon. To be racist is to be ignorant. but noone is being racist , did anyone say don t hang out with black people at all???? did anyone said spanish , white people dont committ crimes? i dont recall anyone saying that at all . You guys are just assuming that . Gotta read more carefull before you post and dont get carry away with all the being racist c ra p .

And did I say that rick was racist ??

It was just a general comment.

Phantasma · TOP Guru

Rick and MJ... if you dont feel you are prejudiced then dont include yourselves. I did not name any names.

Also, MJ we are talkin about Toronto, but if Blacks are somehow criminal by nature than it stands to reasons that blacks everywhere would exibit this trait. Or is there something about Toronto that makes black people go on these murderous rampages?

I blame the Raptors... they havent had a descent season in years.. that'll make anybody wanna shoot people!

-- Edited by Phantasma at 11:55, 2006-07-18

rick · Guru

Chica W wrote:

Phantasma wrote: . Its unfortunate that we devide ourselves in the basics of colours... specially since as Latinos we are viewed no better than your average black man on the street. When they look at YOU, to them you are just a lighter shade of ****... keep that in you mind. Not only that, but we got black people in out own race you dumbasses... It amazes me how dumb some people are. I swear I am disgusted as I type this. Anyone ever been to Cuba? Dominican? Venezuela? Puerto Rico? Ecuador (Esmeralda)? La Costa de Peru? and countless other LATIN countries? Even if you never set foot outside Toronto, you ever seen Carlos Cruz? Alex Bello? Wilson Manuel? Charlie Moet? I guess those people there are LAtin and BLACK so they probably stab you then shoot you. In reality most crime is commited by POOR people. It just so happen that in North America we got an overwhelming amount of people of colour (this means both black and LATINO) livin in Poverty plus a person of colour is 3 times more likely (this is in the states) to be convicted of a crime than a white person. So even though statistically more crime is commited by white, more blacks and latinos end up in prison. The media also tends to over present these crimes thus giving the IMPRESSION that more crime is comitted by colour people. Same reason why people are afraid of air travel even tho there are thousands more car crashes every year, its because everytime there is a car accident it doesnt make it into the news. We are the plane crashes. Well said, I agree. I think that no matter where we go we should always be cautious...anyone can be carrying a weapon. To be racist is to be ignorant.

but noone is being racist , did anyone say don t hang out with black people at all???? did anyone said spanish , white people dont committ crimes? i dont recall anyone saying that at all . You guys are just assuming that . Gotta read more carefull before you post and dont get carry away with all the being racist c ra p .

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Phantasma wrote:

Here is LA vs Salt Lake City LA vs SLC As we can see.. crime rate in LA is almost double... which must SURELY mean Mexican are ALL criminals... no? gross generalization? I thought so too.

WTF???????

one more reason for me not to move there......

Chica W · Guru

Phantasma wrote:

. Its unfortunate that we devide ourselves in the basics of colours... specially since as Latinos we are viewed no better than your average black man on the street. When they look at YOU, to them you are just a lighter shade of ****... keep that in you mind. Not only that, but we got black people in out own race you dumbasses... It amazes me how dumb some people are. I swear I am disgusted as I type this. Anyone ever been to Cuba? Dominican? Venezuela? Puerto Rico? Ecuador (Esmeralda)? La Costa de Peru? and countless other LATIN countries? Even if you never set foot outside Toronto, you ever seen Carlos Cruz? Alex Bello? Wilson Manuel? Charlie Moet? I guess those people there are LAtin and BLACK so they probably stab you then shoot you. In reality most crime is commited by POOR people. It just so happen that in North America we got an overwhelming amount of people of colour (this means both black and LATINO) livin in Poverty plus a person of colour is 3 times more likely (this is in the states) to be convicted of a crime than a white person. So even though statistically more crime is commited by white, more blacks and latinos end up in prison. The media also tends to over present these crimes thus giving the IMPRESSION that more crime is comitted by colour people. Same reason why people are afraid of air travel even tho there are thousands more car crashes every year, its because everytime there is a car accident it doesnt make it into the news. We are the plane crashes.

Well said, I agree.

I think that no matter where we go we should always be cautious...anyone can be carrying a weapon.

To be racist is to be ignorant.

rick · Guru

ok buddy u got some kind of anger problem , noone insulted u here or call u dumbass , so just chill out , We gave our opinions so did you , I respect your point of view , and noone is saying dont hang out with black people or do this or do that . The problem is people like you see everything as being racist , you can t say anything to a black person because you are automatically being racist .

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Phantasma wrote:

OK fine.... I wasnt gonna say anything else cause Im tired of having this stupid conversation but here it is: You wanna believe you are more likely to get shot by black people, then by all means... dont fckin hang with them. Its not like they are havin some kind of outreach program to hang with u fcks. Its unfortunate that we devide ourselves in the basics of colours... specially since as Latinos we are viewed no better than your average black man on the street. When they look at YOU, to them you are just a lighter shade of ****... keep that in you mind. Not only that, but we got black people in out own race you dumbasses... It amazes me how dumb some people are. I swear I am disgusted as I type this. Anyone ever been to Cuba? Dominican? Venezuela? Puerto Rico? Ecuador (Esmeralda)? La Costa de Peru? and countless other LATIN countries? Even if you never set foot outside Toronto, you ever seen Carlos Cruz? Alex Bello? Wilson Manuel? Charlie Moet? I guess those people there are LAtin and BLACK so they probably stab you then shoot you. In reality most crime is commited by POOR people. It just so happen that in North America we got an overwhelming amount of people of colour (this means both black and LATINO) livin in Poverty plus a person of colour is 3 times more likely (this is in the states) to be convicted of a crime than a white person. So even though statistically more crime is commited by white, more blacks and latinos end up in prison. The media also tends to over present these crimes thus giving the IMPRESSION that more crime is comitted by colour people. Same reason why people are afraid of air travel even tho there are thousands more car crashes every year, its because everytime there is a car accident it doesnt make it into the news. We are the plane crashes. Thats why one has to take what the media has to say about anything with a critical mind and weight it against other sources. To take what the paper and tv feeds you at face value and swallow it without any kind of concideration would be just stupid. As for statistics, you can skew numbers to prove anything you want so long ayou know how to present the data. so here you go Salt Lake City vs New York That is the crime rates for Salt Lake City and New York City. As you can see, they are fairly even, even tho as you can see the amount of blacks and latinos in SLC is almost non existant and New York as everyone knows has one of the highest Latin and Black populations in North America. Here are the Homiside rates of about 90 countries around the world As we can see there... COLOMBIA, has the higher murder rate.. with Russia coming in a distant second (WTF??? Russia?? there is no black people there... they must have flown some in to kill everybody) Here is LA vs Salt Lake City LA vs SLC As we can see.. crime rate in LA is almost double... which must SURELY mean Mexican are ALL criminals... no? gross generalization? I thought so too.

You have your opinion and so does everyone else, no need to resort to insulting us "f@cks"

I thought we were talking about the city of TORONTO!!!

Phantasma · TOP Guru

OK fine.... I wasnt gonna say anything else cause Im tired of having this stupid conversation but here it is:

You wanna believe you are more likely to get shot by black people, then by all means... dont fckin hang with them. Its not like they are havin some kind of outreach program to hang with u fcks.

Its unfortunate that we devide ourselves in the basics of colours... specially since as Latinos we are viewed no better than your average black man on the street. When they look at YOU, to them you are just a lighter shade of ****... keep that in you mind.

Not only that, but we got black people in out own race you dumbasses... It amazes me how dumb some people are. I swear I am disgusted as I type this. Anyone ever been to Cuba? Dominican? Venezuela? Puerto Rico? Ecuador (Esmeralda)? La Costa de Peru? and countless other LATIN countries? Even if you never set foot outside Toronto, you ever seen Carlos Cruz? Alex Bello? Wilson Manuel? Charlie Moet?

I guess those people there are LAtin and BLACK so they probably stab you then shoot you.

In reality most crime is commited by POOR people. It just so happen that in North America we got an overwhelming amount of people of colour (this means both black and LATINO) livin in Poverty plus a person of colour is 3 times more likely (this is in the states) to be convicted of a crime than a white person. So even though statistically more crime is commited by white, more blacks and latinos end up in prison. The media also tends to over present these crimes thus giving the IMPRESSION that more crime is comitted by colour people. Same reason why people are afraid of air travel even tho there are thousands more car crashes every year, its because everytime there is a car accident it doesnt make it into the news. We are the plane crashes. Thats why one has to take what the media has to say about anything with a critical mind and weight it against other sources. To take what the paper and tv feeds you at face value and swallow it without any kind of concideration would be just stupid.

As for statistics, you can skew numbers to prove anything you want so long ayou know how to present the data.

so here you go

Salt Lake City vs New York

That is the crime rates for Salt Lake City and New York City. As you can see, they are fairly even, even tho as you can see the amount of blacks and latinos in SLC is almost non existant and New York as everyone knows has one of the highest Latin and Black populations in North America.

Here are the Homiside rates of about 90 countries around the world

As we can see there... COLOMBIA, has the higher murder rate.. with Russia coming in a distant second (WTF??? Russia?? there is no black people there... they must have flown some in to kill everybody)

Here is LA vs Salt Lake City

LA vs SLC

As we can see.. crime rate in LA is almost double... which must SURELY mean Mexican are ALL criminals... no? gross generalization? I thought so too.

El Duro · Foro Master

El Pibe wrote:

El Duro wrote: diesel wrote: Phantasma wrote: diesel wrote: you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence. You know.. Ive had this conversation with so many of you xenophobic asholes enough times to know that no matter what anyone says nothing will change your paranoic view of things. So I say to you... whatever, dude! If you wanna isolate yourself from whoever you want, by all means.. go for it. Havin said that here is some other stuff you may wanna stay away from Plaza Flamingo Las Brisas Jane & Finch and hell... spics in general, why not. Rooming Houses White People who hang at sports bars in Etobicoke Just to name a few... never mind all the other shootin at Latin Clubs over the years. But yeah, Good for you Champ LATIN CLUBS HAVE HAD TWO SHOOTING IN THE PAST 10 years HIP HOP AND REGGAE nights HAVE HAD TWO IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. yes at night i would much rather not be on jane and finch......another fact no one is dead from those shooting YESTERDAY IN THE FACE ...DEAD BRO so trying to compare one with the other is wayyyyyyyy offff i agree there bro latin club has only had 2 shooting in 10 years, but to tell u the truth is that back in the day in clubs like berlins on friday and statics on sat there was not a shotting in the hip hop clubs, these shooting have started to happen because of the. YOUNGER GENREATION. who don't care for human life it doesn't matter if there black, white, asain, hispanics kids now a day don't care, and that is what is sad about all of this.. period.. I couldn't agree with you more, its these kids running around thinking they are tough, and that they have something to prove. Its a shame that these kids give their ethnic backgrounds the horrible stereotypes that are out there. But likes some people say, it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the bunch.

it because the court system is weak and these kids know that, so they know if they commit a murder they will be out in 2 years..

El Pibe · Guru

El Duro wrote:

diesel wrote: Phantasma wrote: diesel wrote: you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence. You know.. Ive had this conversation with so many of you xenophobic asholes enough times to know that no matter what anyone says nothing will change your paranoic view of things. So I say to you... whatever, dude! If you wanna isolate yourself from whoever you want, by all means.. go for it. Havin said that here is some other stuff you may wanna stay away from Plaza Flamingo Las Brisas Jane & Finch and hell... spics in general, why not. Rooming Houses White People who hang at sports bars in Etobicoke Just to name a few... never mind all the other shootin at Latin Clubs over the years. But yeah, Good for you Champ LATIN CLUBS HAVE HAD TWO SHOOTING IN THE PAST 10 years HIP HOP AND REGGAE nights HAVE HAD TWO IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. yes at night i would much rather not be on jane and finch......another fact no one is dead from those shooting YESTERDAY IN THE FACE ...DEAD BRO so trying to compare one with the other is wayyyyyyyy offff i agree there bro latin club has only had 2 shooting in 10 years, but to tell u the truth is that back in the day in clubs like berlins on friday and statics on sat there was not a shotting in the hip hop clubs, these shooting have started to happen because of the. YOUNGER GENREATION. who don't care for human life it doesn't matter if there black, white, asain, hispanics kids now a day don't care, and that is what is sad about all of this.. period..

I couldn't agree with you more, its these kids running around thinking they are tough, and that they have something to prove. Its a shame that these kids give their ethnic backgrounds the horrible stereotypes that are out there. But likes some people say, it only takes a few bad apples to ruin the bunch.

El Duro · Foro Master

diesel wrote:

Phantasma wrote: diesel wrote: you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence. You know.. Ive had this conversation with so many of you xenophobic asholes enough times to know that no matter what anyone says nothing will change your paranoic view of things. So I say to you... whatever, dude! If you wanna isolate yourself from whoever you want, by all means.. go for it. Havin said that here is some other stuff you may wanna stay away from Plaza Flamingo Las Brisas Jane & Finch and hell... spics in general, why not. Rooming Houses White People who hang at sports bars in Etobicoke Just to name a few... never mind all the other shootin at Latin Clubs over the years. But yeah, Good for you Champ LATIN CLUBS HAVE HAD TWO SHOOTING IN THE PAST 10 years HIP HOP AND REGGAE nights HAVE HAD TWO IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. yes at night i would much rather not be on jane and finch......another fact no one is dead from those shooting YESTERDAY IN THE FACE ...DEAD BRO so trying to compare one with the other is wayyyyyyyy offff

i agree there bro latin club has only had 2 shooting in 10 years, but to tell u the truth is that back in the day in clubs like berlins on friday and statics on sat there was not a shotting in the hip hop clubs, these shooting have started to happen because of the. YOUNGER GENREATION. who don't care for human life it doesn't matter if there black, white, asain, hispanics kids now a day don't care, and that is what is sad about all of this.. period..

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

I agree with diesel, bistor, and rick. I don't think being a racist has anything to do with it. Whether you listen to hip hop, classical, rock, or whatever, taste in music has nothing to do with it either. It's a matter of knowing your surroundings and not being naive into thinking everyone at a hip hop/reggae event is going to be sucking lollipops and giving each other a care bear hug. Like rick said, "watch the news more". Look at all the suspects from the Jane Creba incident. Look at the high police presence at Caribana. Look at the incident at McGuigan. Maybe you should look at the Toronto police website.

Robbery (Purse Snatch) - 14 Division

A 39 year old male reports that on July 16, 2006 at approximately 2330 hours, he was in the area of Westlodge Avenue and Queen Street West when a male suspect approached him. The suspect snatched the victim’s cellular telephone and fled the scene in an unknown direction. No injuries were sustained by the victim. Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described person in connection with this offence. Description of Suspect: Male, black, 28 to 30 years, 5’7” to 5’8”, thin build, black short hair.

Robbery (Purse Snatch) - 33 Division

Two female victims, ages 19 years and 21 years report that on July 17, 2006, they exited the subway station in the area of Don Mills Road and Sheppard Avenue East when they observed six male suspects following them. Two of the suspects approached the victims from behind and grabbed their purses. The 19 year old victim gave chase but the suspects fled the scene in unknown directions. The victims sustained minor injuries but no medical attention was required. Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described persons in connection with this offence. Description of Suspect #1: Male, black, 20 to 23 years, 5’9”, skinny build, brown eyes, black afro style short hair. Suspect #2: Male, black, 18 to 23 years, 5’10” to 5’11”, skinny build, black afro style short hair, brown eyes. Suspects #3-#6: Male, black, 18 to 23 years, brown eyes, black hair.

Robbery (Mugging) - 22 Division

A 25 year old male reports that on July 17, 2006 at approximately 0244 hours, he was asleep in his parked vehicle, with the windows rolled down, in the area of Islington Avenue and Lakeshore Boulevard West, when two male suspects approached the vehicle. One suspect produced a handgun, pointed it at the victim and repeatedly threatened him. The suspects made a demand for the victim’s wallet, PIN number, watch, cell phone and car keys which were still in the ignition. The victim complied and the suspects fled the scene on foot in an unknown direction. No injuries were sustained by the victim. Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described persons in connection with this offence. Description of Suspect #1-#2: Male, black, 23 years, 6’0”-6’2”, thin build.

Robbery (Mugging) - 55 Division

Two males aged 20 years and 21 years report that on July 14, 2006 at about 0110 hours, they were in the park of a school on Corley Avenue, when they were approached by a male suspect. The suspect produced a handgun and made a demand for drugs and cash. The victims did not comply. The suspect punched and slapped both victims in the face and fled the scene with a backpack containing identification, a cellphone, cd player, a watch and cash. The victims gave chase and the suspect was last seen westbound on Corley Avenue. The 21 year old victim sustained minor injuries but did not require medical attention. Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described person in connection with this offence. Description of Suspect: Male, black, 24-25 years, 6’, 189-200 pounds, medium build, short black curly hair. Toronto Alert # 2841 July 14, 2006.

Robbery (Swarming) - 33 Division

A 19 year old reports that on July 15, 2006 at approximately 2200 hours, he was in the area of Don Mills Road and Sheppard Avenue East when he was approached by three male suspects. The suspects threatened the victim and made a demand for his debit card, I-Pod and a cellular telephone. One suspect indicated he was armed, although no weapon was seen. The victim complied. The suspects then fled the scene southbound on the west side of Don Mills Road. The victim did not sustain any injuries. Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described persons in connection with this offence. Description of Suspect #1: Male, black, 23 to 27 years, 6’1” to 6’2”, 200 pounds, muscular build, pockmarked face. Suspect #2: Male, black, 18 to 22 years, 6’1” to 6’2” 161 to 180 pounds, thin build, brown short afro style hair. Suspect #3: Male, white, 20 to 25 years, 6’1” to 6’2”, 169 to 180 pounds, thin build, black hair.

Shooting - 52 Division

A male employee of Reilly’s Bar, 340 Yonge Street, reports that on July 15, 2006 at about 2330 hours, a male suspect entered the premises and proceeded to the bathroom. The victim asked the suspect to leave the premises but the suspect refused. An argument ensued and the suspect started pushing and shoving the victim. The suspect then fired several shots at the victim and fled the scene in an unknown direction. No injuries were sustained by the victim. Police were notified and attended the scene. Police are requesting the assistance of the public in identifying the following described person in connection with this offence. Description of Suspect: Male, black, 25-30 years, 5’9”-5’10”, 161-169 lbs, medium build, black hair.

On the website, there are plenty of crimes involving other ethnicities but you can't help but notice the majority of suspects are black. Now, I'm not pointing fingers and saying all black people and whatever clubs they hang out are an automatic given for a shooting, stabbing, robbery, or whatever. It's just a matter of looking at statistics. SURE!!! Asians, whites, East Indians, Hispanics, etc. are not all angels and do commit crime but...........if the shoe fits.........

It's a shame for people to cry foul whenever a black person is involved but there's no one else to blame but the perpetrator him(her)self.

-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 09:16, 2006-07-18

rick · Guru

@phanta

I m not racist or anything but yea mostly black people are involved in this kind of crimes , u gotta read the papers more , it s a fact . I have a lot of black friends but that doesn take the fact u are in more risk of gettin shot or stab or even into a fight if you go to this places . You can say all you want but you gotta read the papers watch the news more.

diesel · Regular Plus

When you are schooling people you might want to use facts and statistics, People like to call these places hot spots,places were there has been a history of crime. So if you like to "hang" in these spots all power to you man enjoy. I will be somewhere else

Phantasma · TOP Guru

diesel wrote:

LATIN CLUBS HAVE HAD TWO SHOOTING IN THE PAST 10 years HIP HOP AND REGGAE nights HAVE HAD TWO IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. yes at night i would much rather not be on jane and finch......another fact no one is dead from those shooting YESTERDAY IN THE FACE ...DEAD BRO
so trying to compare one with the other is wayyyyyyyy offff

Whatever man... Like I said, Im tired of schoolin' dumb motha****ers, so you do you and hang wherever u wanna hang man, its all good.

diesel · Regular Plus

Phantasma wrote:

diesel wrote: you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence. You know.. Ive had this conversation with so many of you xenophobic asholes enough times to know that no matter what anyone says nothing will change your paranoic view of things. So I say to you... whatever, dude! If you wanna isolate yourself from whoever you want, by all means.. go for it. Havin said that here is some other stuff you may wanna stay away from Plaza Flamingo Las Brisas Jane & Finch and hell... spics in general, why not. Rooming Houses White People who hang at sports bars in Etobicoke Just to name a few... never mind all the other shootin at Latin Clubs over the years. But yeah, Good for you Champ

LATIN CLUBS HAVE HAD TWO SHOOTING IN THE PAST 10 years HIP HOP AND REGGAE nights HAVE HAD TWO IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS. yes at night i would much rather not be on jane and finch......another fact no one is dead from those shooting YESTERDAY IN THE FACE ...DEAD BRO
so trying to compare one with the other is wayyyyyyyy offff

bistor · Guru

That black on black murder rate is overrepresented in Toronto, is a statistical fact. Period.

This doesn't mean that all blacks are murderers.

That being said, best of luck to those pushing the politically correct agenda that the murder rate is uniform across all ethnic groups and population segments in this city.

careguea · Senior Member

Daeveed wrote:

I was asking why it is mainly one race/style emphasized as being the violent or criminal one.

get rich o' die trying vato!

careguea · Senior Member

diesel wrote:

yet another shooting in a hip hop and reggae night....i don't want to mention what type of color and race so i will say the music...i don't know how these people keep going to these nights.. the guys i understand but i cant imagine why women would keep going to these parties. I thank god that the latin crowd is not killing each other like that but i myself will never step foot in a hip hop and reggae night ever ever again!!! -- Edited by diesel at 13:56, 2006-07-17

I fully agree. Trash bar rock nights where people beat eachother up with fists and in the mosh pit are for me

-- Edited by careguea at 16:10, 2006-07-17

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

Phantasma wrote:

diesel wrote: you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence. You know.. Ive had this conversation with so many of you xenophobic asholes enough times to know that no matter what anyone says nothing will change your paranoic view of things. So I say to you... whatever, dude! If you wanna isolate yourself from whoever you want, by all means.. go for it. Havin said that here is some other stuff you may wanna stay away from Plaza Flamingo Las Brisas Jane & Finch and hell... spics in general, why not. Rooming Houses White People who hang at sports bars in Etobicoke Just to name a few... never mind all the other shootin at Latin Clubs over the years. But yeah, Good for you Champ

Well said man. Believing that violence can happen in specific places is idiotic. Alot of people are crazy and stuff can happen anywhere. The co-worker sitting to your left or right could be a future serial killer and you woulnd't know it

Phantasma · TOP Guru

diesel wrote:

you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence.

You know.. Ive had this conversation with so many of you xenophobic asholes enough times to know that no matter what anyone says nothing will change your paranoic view of things. So I say to you... whatever, dude!

If you wanna isolate yourself from whoever you want, by all means.. go for it.

Havin said that here is some other stuff you may wanna stay away from

Plaza Flamingo

Las Brisas

Jane & Finch and hell... spics in general, why not.

Rooming Houses

White People who hang at sports bars in Etobicoke

Just to name a few... never mind all the other shootin at Latin Clubs over the years. But yeah, Good for you Champ

McOSIRIS · Comandante

DJAlonso wrote:

Hip Hop culture....

let's hope Phanta does't read this....

DJAlonso · Guru

Hip Hop culture....

Daeveed · Foro Master

diesel wrote:

DRUG MONEY i think is the main reason why!!!

I was not asking why people got shot.

I was asking why it is mainly one race/style emphasized as being the violent or criminal one.

diesel · Regular Plus

DRUG MONEY i think is the main reason why!!!

Daeveed · Foro Master

diesel wrote:

you can look at this problem with a blind eye by pretending that a certain type of music and race are more frequently involved in these types of shooting..I AM NOT SAYING ONLY JUST THAT THERE IS A VERY HIGH CHANCE THAT IT WILL HAPPEN AT THESE NIGHTS.... take a look at all the murders from last year... I am not scared to say it how it is and that a certain type of music and crowd attracts more violence.

The real question is why...

diesel · Regular Plus

RE: SHOT IN THE FACE PIONT BLANK RANGE

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

diesel wrote:

yet another shooting in a hip hop and reggae night....i don't want to mention what type of color and race so i will say the music...i don't know how these people keep going to these nights.. the guys i understand but i cant imagine why women would keep going to these parties. I thank god that the latin crowd is not killing each other like that but i myself will never step foot in a hip hop and reggae night ever ever again!!!

Violence can happen anywhere at anytime. There have been shootings at other clubs too and it has little to do with the music or race.
As I type a woman was just stabbed near my work at Dixon and Islington.
She is 6 weeks pregnant and got stabbed in the abdomen http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_2011.aspx

So again violence can happen anywhere at anytime to anyone.
Sad but true

Daeveed · Foro Master

From the article: "Employees say they heard at least a dozen shots fired. Volume, which opened in March, uses metal detectors at the front door."

Awesome...I'm sure this makes everyone feel safer.

Pelon` · Guru

Julie wrote:

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_2009.aspx Sad for the innocent pple that once more were or could have been caught in the shooting.

Wow that's ****ed! thanks for link.

Julie · Comandante

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_2009.aspx

Sad for the innocent pple that once more were or could have been caught in the shooting.

-- Edited by Julie at 13:17, 2006-07-17

Phantasma · TOP Guru

diesel wrote:

yet another shooting in a hip hop and reggae night....i don't want to mention what type of color and race so i will say the music...i don't know how these people keep going to these nights.. the guys i understand but i cant imagine why women would keep going to these parties. I thank god that the latin crowd is not killing each other like that but i myself will never step foot in a hip hop and reggae night ever ever again!!!

Ignorance and stupidity knows no colour. As you have clearly demonstrated with your post.

Pelon` · Guru

Hmmm...is this a club we're talkin about? Which club this week?

diesel · Regular Plus

SHOT IN THE FACE POINT BLANK RANGE