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Ok, so... yeah. It's virtually impossible for me to make sense today but here goes anyway. During these World Cup times, I noticed that when ascribing nationality, people generally go with the father's side.                       Nevermind, I lost interest already. Perhaps later. Thank you, come again.

Well if your talking in a sense that we automatically take our fathers nationality over our mothers when it comes to the world cup is i guess that influence that soccer is mainly associated with Men and not women! Plus when you sit down to watch the game you sit with your father (in some case not all). Also i guess it just goes back to the fact that you have there last name before your mothers and are raised to belive that the Man is the one that runs the house and there for is better to side with him then with the "female" (please note that this is not in all cases considering i was brought up by a single mother my view is different)
 




i'm sure what you wrote is important, but all i could notice was how you're not screaming! no caps!
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La patria es lo que dice(n) el/los pasaporte(s).

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Miel wrote: Your comment/question brings to my mind another question that I always have,. about nationality,. If someone is born in Canada, you are canadian,. but if your parents are from different countries (latinoamerica, europe, etc) ,. what is your nationality or where are you from???? ,.or do u feel more candian because u are born here???,. I know that culture is different and other things differ from "canadian culture",.. but I have heard ppl who says (hispanics) "I am canadian so ......",. or If someone ask them where are u from ??? I am canadian but my parents are from ...." what is that supposed to mean????,...Do I make sense?? probably not,,,. BTW I agree with Genie ,.. TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion.

I guess no canadians,.but I really would like to read the opinions of those born here,..I also do not have these issues,. I am 100% Ecuatoriana,..

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OK. AWAY FROM SENTIMENTALITY, I'LL SAID MY COUNTRY WHERE I WAS BORNED OR LIVE MY FIRST YRS. OF LIFE. NO MATTER WHERE MY FATHER IS FROM OR MOTHER, IS LIKE DOGO SAID WILL BE A FOREST IF I STARTED TO LOOK WHERE THEY COMING FROM. IN THE CASE OF GOING FOR A TEAM, I DON'T BOTHER THEM TELLING WITH WHO I'LL GO.

And where were you born and where did you grow up, if I may ask? Sorry if you already answered this, I've been so out of it as of late. More importantly though, which team are you cheering for? Or did you mean you'll go... "go"  with the team?

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OK. AWAY FROM SENTIMENTALITY, I'LL SAID MY COUNTRY WHERE I WAS BORNED OR LIVE MY FIRST YRS. OF LIFE.


NO MATTER WHERE MY FATHER IS FROM OR MOTHER, IS LIKE DOGO SAID WILL BE A FOREST IF I STARTED TO LOOK WHERE THEY COMING FROM.


IN THE CASE OF GOING FOR A TEAM, I DON'T BOTHER THEM TELLING WITH WHO I'LL GO.



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Lahtina wrote: Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion. I thought it was Italia forever Forever only lasts a lifetime and Italia per sempre was in my past life. Now it's: viva Mexico por siempre, jijos de su tal por cual y recabrones. <--- although this could be of Argentinian origin. I tis not! We don't even USE "cabron" to us that would be a big "male" cabra... i guess 

I meant the re, cabrón. Ok?

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Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion. I thought it was Italia forever Forever only lasts a lifetime and Italia per sempre was in my past life. Now it's: viva Mexico por siempre, jijos de su tal por cual y recabrones. <--- although this could be of Argentinian origin.

I tis not!
We don't even USE "cabron" to us that would be a big "male" cabra... i guess 




It is, among other things

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We don't even USE "cabron" to us that would be a big "male" cabra... i guess 

...or what is used to make the fire at an Asado.

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Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion. I thought it was Italia forever Forever only lasts a lifetime and Italia per sempre was in my past life. Now it's: viva Mexico por siempre, jijos de su tal por cual y recabrones. <--- although this could be of Argentinian origin.


I tis not!


We don't even USE "cabron" to us that would be a big "male" cabra... i guess 



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Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion. I thought it was Italia forever Forever only lasts a lifetime and Italia per sempre was in my past life. Now it's: viva Mexico por siempre, jijos de su tal por cual y recabrones. <--- although this could be of Argentinian origin.


 


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Lahtina wrote: TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion. I thought it was Italia forever

Forever only lasts a lifetime and Italia per sempre was in my past life. Now it's: viva Mexico por siempre, jijos de su tal por cual y recabrones. <--- although this could be of Argentinian origin.

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TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican. I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion.

I thought it was Italia forever

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Your comment/question brings to my mind another question that I always have,. about nationality,. If someone is born in Canada, you are canadian,. but if your parents are from different countries (latinoamerica, europe, etc) ,. what is your nationality or where are you from???? ,.or do u feel more candian because u are born here???,. I know that culture is different and other things differ from "canadian culture",.. but I have heard ppl who says (hispanics) "I am canadian so ......",. or If someone ask them where are u from ??? I am canadian but my parents are from ...." what is that supposed to mean????,...Do I make sense?? probably not,,,. BTW I agree with Genie ,..


TRGNFG I don't struggle with these issues. I will forever consider myself a Mexican.


I'm curious too though. Where are "the Canadians" when you need their opinion.



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Ok, so... yeah. It's virtually impossible for me to make sense today but here goes anyway. During these World Cup times, I noticed that when ascribing nationality, people generally go with the father's side.                       Nevermind, I lost interest already. Perhaps later. Thank you, come again.

To answer this question, I think you take more on your mother`s because she is the one that carries you and you are more your mom`s (can u tell I may be a little possesive with my kids)

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 i will contribute with two!! one kid and one dog and thats it!!!!! lmao lmao!!! so i have one player and the mascote so u two split it with 6 each we should be good 12 plus 1 from me!!!


Only 1, c'mon, you can do better than that !


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Lahtina wrote:


Ok, so... yeah. It's virtually impossible for me to make sense today but here goes anyway. During these World Cup times, I noticed that when ascribing nationality, people generally go with the father's side.                       Nevermind, I lost interest already. Perhaps later. Thank you, come again.


Your comment/question brings to my mind another question that I always have,. about nationality,. If someone is born in Canada, you are canadian,. but if your parents are from different countries (latinoamerica, europe, etc) ,. what is your nationality or where are you from???? ,.or do u feel more candian because u are born here???,. I know that culture is different and other things differ from "canadian culture",.. but I have heard ppl who says (hispanics) "I am canadian so ......",. or If someone ask them where are u from ??? I am canadian but my parents are from ...." what is that supposed to mean????,...Do I make sense?? probably not,,,.


BTW I agree with Genie ,..



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GENIE wrote: Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: @ Julie and Genie... yes, thank you, totally makes sense.   Yes!! I'm gonna have little Messican supporters and so is Genie. Julie is gonna have little UN supporters. Poor confused little kids. Hey, maybe we can pull up a team and Genie will coach them Right Genie ?             SURE!! I mean Orales dad is the owner of the Vaughn Cruz Azul team (so mexican) lol lol!!!! and according to Orale Sr im already more mexican then i know it!!!! lol lol   Orale then ! @ Lahtina, hurry up lady we have to get started, we have 11 + bench to work on !

             i will contribute with two!! one kid and one dog and thats it!!!!! lmao lmao!!! so i have one player and the mascote so u two split it with 6 each we should be good 12 plus 1 from me!!!

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Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: @ Julie and Genie... yes, thank you, totally makes sense.   Yes!! I'm gonna have little Messican supporters and so is Genie. Julie is gonna have little UN supporters. Poor confused little kids. Hey, maybe we can pull up a team and Genie will coach them Right Genie ?             SURE!! I mean Orales dad is the owner of the Vaughn Cruz Azul team (so mexican) lol lol!!!! and according to Orale Sr im already more mexican then i know it!!!! lol lol  


Orale then !


@ Lahtina, hurry up lady we have to get started, we have 11 + bench to work on !



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Julie wrote: Lahtina wrote: @ Julie and Genie... yes, thank you, totally makes sense.   Yes!! I'm gonna have little Messican supporters and so is Genie. Julie is gonna have little UN supporters. Poor confused little kids. Hey, maybe we can pull up a team and Genie will coach them Right Genie ?             SURE!! I mean Orales dad is the owner of the Vaughn Cruz Azul team (so mexican) lol lol!!!! and according to Orale Sr im already more mexican then i know it!!!! lol lol  

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Lahtina wrote: @ Julie and Genie... yes, thank you, totally makes sense.   Yes!! I'm gonna have little Messican supporters and so is Genie. Julie is gonna have little UN supporters. Poor confused little kids. Hey, maybe we can pull up a team and Genie will coach them Right Genie ?


            SURE!! I mean Orales dad is the owner of the Vaughn Cruz Azul team (so mexican) lol lol!!!! and according to Orale Sr im already more mexican then i know it!!!! lol lol


 



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@ Julie and Genie... yes, thank you, totally makes sense.   Yes!! I'm gonna have little Messican supporters and so is Genie. Julie is gonna have little UN supporters. Poor confused little kids.

Hey, maybe we can pull up a team and Genie will coach them Right Genie ?

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@ Julie and Genie... yes, thank you, totally makes sense.


 


Yes!! I'm gonna have little Messican supporters and so is Genie. Julie is gonna have little UN supporters. Poor confused little kids.



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Lahtina wrote:


Ok, so... yeah. It's virtually impossible for me to make sense today but here goes anyway. During these World Cup times, I noticed that when ascribing nationality, people generally go with the father's side.                       Nevermind, I lost interest already. Perhaps later. Thank you, come again.


Well if your talking in a sense that we automatically take our fathers nationality over our mothers when it comes to the world cup is i guess that influence that soccer is mainly associated with Men and not women! Plus when you sit down to watch the game you sit with your father (in some case not all). Also i guess it just goes back to the fact that you have there last name before your mothers and are raised to belive that the Man is the one that runs the house and there for is better to side with him then with the "female" (please note that this is not in all cases considering i was brought up by a single mother my view is different)


 



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@ Colo


@ X4vier, kind of


@ Lahtina, maybe they are wrongly assuming that Mon do not follow soccer.........it's well known, what do women know about soccer yeahhhh YOU



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Julie wrote:

F@ck, if I will have go by my family tree it will never end.



sounds more like a family forest

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Lahtina wrote:


Ok, so... yeah. It's virtually impossible for me to make sense today but here goes anyway. During these World Cup times, I noticed that when ascribing nationality, people generally go with the father's side.                       Nevermind, I lost interest already. Perhaps later. Thank you, come again.

I`ll let Julie answer this one

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Julie wrote:


F@ck, if I will have go by my family tree it will never end.


I am really interested to know how you got your Argentinian roots.


But no, that's not what I meant anyway.



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F@ck, if I will have go by my family tree it will never end.

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Interesting topic.


I would like to add that i don't find it interesting at all.



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Ok, so... yeah. It's virtually impossible for me to make sense today but here goes anyway. During these World Cup times, I noticed that when ascribing nationality, people generally go with the father's side.                       Nevermind, I lost interest already. Perhaps later. Thank you, come again.



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