Glad to hear everything is going well Chile.  As for the epidural, I had an epidural with my first baby and a spinal anasthetic with the second one, and so far so good.  And it does not harm the baby in any way.  BTW, what hospital are you going to?  Because I know downtown hospitals seem to have the best anaesthesiologists.  I went to Women's College for both my kids and it's the best.

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El Mismo wrote:
I've never really congratulated you for your baby......so here goes... CONGRATULATION CHILENITA, YOUR BABY WILL MAKE YOUR LIVE MUCH BRIGHTER THAN IT ALREADY IS, ...BLESS YOU AND YOUR NEW BORN.....
OMG you are soooooooo sweet!  Okay I don't hate you any more and you can have purple

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no thanks.....keep the purple for your baby.....its hers now....

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Salsera de Corazon wrote: El Duro wrote: TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @CHILE I'LL GIVE U A WORD OF ADVICE DO  NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THE NEDDLE IN YOUR BACK FOR THE PAIN And you have the moral authority to advise her of this because...   How could you possibly know? @BUFF BECAUSE I HAVE A 10 YEAR OLD SON A 9 AND TWO 1 YEAR OLD NIECE AND ONE OF MY SISTERS GOT IT AND HAS BACK PAIN AND WHEN MY MOM HAD ME THEY INJECTED HER WITH IT AND MY MOM NOW HAS BACK PAIN, AND I THINK IT DOESN'T HURT TO TELL SOME ONE OF THE AFFECTS SOME MEDICINE HAS ON THE IF U KNOW ABOUT IT  @El Duro:  I don't agree with you in this comment as, I had my kid naturally, and I now suffer with big back pains, so is up to Chile to take the needle, is really up to her, if she can handle the pain then is O.K. but if not then she should take it , now hopefully Chilenita, you'll chilenita Jr. won't take too long to come out You're making a lot of sense lately, Salsera - have you stopped drinking at work? I agree with you and also agree with Duro to some degree:  If it was ME giving birth, I would try to AVOID getting the epidural and put up with the pain as much as possible... but if I couldn't really handle it and the pain was just so unbearable, then Epidural it would be!

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Listen, I didn't stop drinking at work, I just cut down my dose

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El Duro wrote: TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @CHILE I'LL GIVE U A WORD OF ADVICE DO  NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THE NEDDLE IN YOUR BACK FOR THE PAIN And you have the moral authority to advise her of this because...   How could you possibly know? @BUFF BECAUSE I HAVE A 10 YEAR OLD SON A 9 AND TWO 1 YEAR OLD NIECE AND ONE OF MY SISTERS GOT IT AND HAS BACK PAIN AND WHEN MY MOM HAD ME THEY INJECTED HER WITH IT AND MY MOM NOW HAS BACK PAIN, AND I THINK IT DOESN'T HURT TO TELL SOME ONE OF THE AFFECTS SOME MEDICINE HAS ON THE IF U KNOW ABOUT IT  @El Duro:  I don't agree with you in this comment as, I had my kid naturally, and I now suffer with big back pains, so is up to Chile to take the needle, is really up to her, if she can handle the pain then is O.K. but if not then she should take it , now hopefully Chilenita, you'll chilenita Jr. won't take too long to come out

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You're making a lot of sense lately, Salsera - have you stopped drinking at work?

I agree with you and also agree with Duro to some degree:  If it was ME giving birth, I would try to AVOID getting the epidural and put up with the pain as much as possible... but if I couldn't really handle it and the pain was just so unbearable, then Epidural it would be!

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TV Buff wrote: @ Bistor: when you say "produced" does that mean your parents "created" you there, or you were born there? Explain. Mom always had a thing for doctors

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lmao

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Chilenita wrote: Actually the doctor who gave birth to me is giving birth to Chile Jr So she should be just fine Just make sure he doesn't drop her. You know, he might be a bit on the shaky side... Plus she might be a bit oily from all those pupusas slash empanadas you've been consuming. @ Bistor: when you say "produced" does that mean your parents "created" you there, or you were born there? Explain.

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Hey he ain't that old

He was a young doc when he delivered me and I am not THAT old

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GENIE wrote: ALSO I KNOW THE HOSPITAL UR GOING TO AND NEXT TO NORTH YORK GENERAL THEY HAVE THE BEST DOCTORS THAT DO THAT!! SO MUCH SO THAT 90% OF THE HOSPITALS ON UNIVERSITY USE THEM!! Damn straight! I was produced there and I turned out FINE!

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Yes Mount Sanai rules!!!  Actually the doctor who gave birth to me is giving birth to Chile Jr

So she should be just fine

WOO HOO Chile Jr stirs up some contraversy just like Mommy

Okay so I have read about a million books on childbirth....gone to some prenatal classes and spoken to more than one doctor and a couple of nurses re: epidural they all say the same....there are some risks but as long as you listen carefully and don't move while getting the injection you will be fine.

There is no doubt that Buffy is right about men NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER having any clue how painful childbirth is.  I wish it was like getting into a fight because then I would have no problems...no worries and almost no pain

 

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@CHILE PLEASE LISTEN!!! TO WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD THE NEEDLE!!!      NOT ALL CASES ARE THE SAME AND NOT ALL PAIN TOLERANCE IS THE SAME!!     I HAVE GIVEN BIRTH TWICE AND YES IT HURTS! BOTH TIMES NATURALLY BUT NOT BY CHOICE BUT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO LATE FOR DRUGS!!     MY CUZIN TOOK THE NEEDLE HAD A GREAT BIRTH MY MOTHER DID THE SAME AND SO DID CONFU!! SHE HAS NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT ANY PAIN AT ALL!!!      FACTS WILL ALWAYS EXIST AND THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO EVERYTHING!! DURO WERE U BORN HERE OR BACK HOME??? DID UR SIS GIVE BIRTH HERE OR BACK HOME?? BACK HOME ITS DIFFERENT THEN HERE!! ALSO I KNOW THE HOSPITAL UR GOING TO AND NEXT TO NORTH YORK GENERAL THEY HAVE THE BEST DOCTORS THAT DO THAT!! SO MUCH SO THAT 90% OF THE HOSPITALS ON UNIVERSITY USE THEM!! I KNOW MY MOTHER GAVE BIRTH THERE ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO AND I WAS IN THE ROOM!! SO MEN IM SORRY BUT SOME THINGS U GUYS HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM!!!!!

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I was born here and my all my nieces were born her, and both of them suffer from back aches as well as my moms

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Motown Junkie wrote: El Duro wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: El Duro wrote: TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @BUFF BECAUSE I HAVE A 10 YEAR OLD SON A 9 AND TWO 1 YEAR OLD NIECE AND ONE OF MY SISTERS GOT IT AND HAS BACK PAIN AND WHEN MY MOM HAD ME THEY INJECTED HER WITH IT AND MY MOM NOW HAS BACK PAIN, AND I THINK IT DOESN'T HURT TO TELL SOME ONE OF THE AFFECTS SOME MEDICINE HAS ON THE IF U KNOW ABOUT IT They do give you specific instructions, if I'm not mistaken: do not move while you're being injected because there are possible side effects, amongst them, back pain. So if you do what you're told, chances are you will be fine. Back pain can also be caused by many a thing. Hell, just sitting in front of a computer the way we do can cause back pain. But you should never, ever, ever advise someone not to take the epidural unless YOU REALLY KNOW what you're talking about, especially when it comes to the excruciating pain of childbirth.   so your telling me about if i'm not a women i dont know child birth.. i'm sorry but i lived it with my baby mother and i know what it feel like beacause i was there from day one, and if u think i'm wron why don't u look at LG thread, and  i was giving her advice, now if she take it or not that is up to her-- Edited by El Duro at 12:41, 2006-05-25   You CAN'T be serious!!!  Tell me you're joking!!!!  I'm sorry but men can take credit for whatever they want because they can but "reliving" the pain of childbirth????  GIMME A BREAK!!!!   when my baby mother went in labor i got kicked at slapped on and bited by her so to me it was like i was having the baby with her *Dr.Evil*  RRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT......... I guess when someone gets beat up at the end of a boxing match or martial arts match, they say, "Man, it's just like labor!!!" Or when a woman is reliving it, she says, "Actually, it's just like getting beat up!!!!"   @Mj your taking this to a whole new lever, (l)

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But isn't that what you're saying though?  You "know" the pains of child birth because your child's mother kicked and bit you? 



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El Duro wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: El Duro wrote: TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @BUFF BECAUSE I HAVE A 10 YEAR OLD SON A 9 AND TWO 1 YEAR OLD NIECE AND ONE OF MY SISTERS GOT IT AND HAS BACK PAIN AND WHEN MY MOM HAD ME THEY INJECTED HER WITH IT AND MY MOM NOW HAS BACK PAIN, AND I THINK IT DOESN'T HURT TO TELL SOME ONE OF THE AFFECTS SOME MEDICINE HAS ON THE IF U KNOW ABOUT IT They do give you specific instructions, if I'm not mistaken: do not move while you're being injected because there are possible side effects, amongst them, back pain. So if you do what you're told, chances are you will be fine. Back pain can also be caused by many a thing. Hell, just sitting in front of a computer the way we do can cause back pain. But you should never, ever, ever advise someone not to take the epidural unless YOU REALLY KNOW what you're talking about, especially when it comes to the excruciating pain of childbirth.   so your telling me about if i'm not a women i dont know child birth.. i'm sorry but i lived it with my baby mother and i know what it feel like beacause i was there from day one, and if u think i'm wron why don't u look at LG thread, and  i was giving her advice, now if she take it or not that is up to her-- Edited by El Duro at 12:41, 2006-05-25   You CAN'T be serious!!!  Tell me you're joking!!!!  I'm sorry but men can take credit for whatever they want because they can but "reliving" the pain of childbirth????  GIMME A BREAK!!!!   when my baby mother went in labor i got kicked at slapped on and bited by her so to me it was like i was having the baby with her *Dr.Evil*  RRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT......... I guess when someone gets beat up at the end of a boxing match or martial arts match, they say, "Man, it's just like labor!!!" Or when a woman is reliving it, she says, "Actually, it's just like getting beat up!!!!"

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@Mj

your taking this to a whole new lever,

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TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @chile just do it naturally, and look at LG's thread about it Not to be mean or wish you ill or anything, but I do hope you get gall bladder stones. Big ones.   u know something the is a very ignorat comment

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dude! i think she's correct....

I've heard that from a Dr....

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u know something the is a very ignorat comment

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No, in fact, it's a very well-informed comment. They say that's the only semi-comparable pain that men can experience to having a baby. And it's nowhere near close to the pain of childbirth. Don't get mad at me. It's just one of those irrefutable truths.

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El Duro wrote: @chile just do it naturally, and look at LG's thread about it Not to be mean or wish you ill or anything, but I do hope you get gall bladder stones. Big ones.

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u know something the is a very ignorat comment

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so your telling me about if i'm not a women i dont know child birth.. i'm sorry but i lived it with my baby mother and i know what it feel like beacause i was there from day one, and if u think i'm wron why don't u look at LG thread, and  i was giving her advice, now if she take it or not that is up to her-- Edited by El Duro at 12:41, 2006-05-25

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Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. I am telling you you're not a woman and you will never ever ever know about the pain of giving birth. Never.

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El Duro wrote: @chile just do it naturally, and look at LG's thread about it Not to be mean or wish you ill or anything, but I do hope you get gall bladder stones. Big ones.

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QUE MALA!!!!!!!!!!!

reminds me of the saying: "Que Dios te conceda EL DOBLE que tu deseas a tu projimo"

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 Hummmmmmmm crap what do I do now.  I wonder if I have enough power to do it naturally. It would be great if the labour was so fast that I don't even have time to worry about a needle.  I rather that but who knows.

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I say: TRY and go through labour WITHOUT it... if you can't handle it, then get the epidural... As I guy, I will never know how much pain it is to deliver a kid; but I know that many moons ago, there was NO epidural, and women delivered many kids without it.

Some people have side effects later in life, some no side effects whatsoever.

  Go Chile Go!!!!!!!!!    I'm so excited for you!!!!!!!! 

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El Duro wrote: Chilenita wrote: TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @CHILE I'LL GIVE U A WORD OF ADVICE DO  NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THE NEDDLE IN YOUR BACK FOR THE PAIN And you have the moral authority to advise her of this because...   How could you possibly know? I have never heard of anyone having any long term affects from an epidural ever.    There is because i know people that suffer from it, and the doctors will tell u different, only one doctor has told me the affects of it, and he was the one that deliviered my son into this world Hummmm!  All my friends have had no problemo with epidural. Hummmmmmmm crap what do I do now.  I wonder if I have enough power to do it naturally. It would be great if the labour was so fast that I don't even have time to worry about a needle.  I rather that but who knows.

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@chile

just do it naturally, and look at LG's thread about it

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Chilenita wrote: TV Buff wrote: El Duro wrote: @CHILE I'LL GIVE U A WORD OF ADVICE DO  NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THE NEDDLE IN YOUR BACK FOR THE PAIN And you have the moral authority to advise her of this because...   How could you possibly know? I have never heard of anyone having any long term affects from an epidural ever.    There is because i know people that suffer from it, and the doctors will tell u different, only one doctor has told me the affects of it, and he was the one that deliviered my son into this world

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Hummmm!  All my friends have had no problemo with epidural. Hummmmmmmm crap what do I do now.  I wonder if I have enough power to do it naturally. It would be great if the labour was so fast that I don't even have time to worry about a needle.  I rather that but who knows.

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El Duro wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: please forward the following message to Chile Jr:   STAY IN THERE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE!!!! THE OUTSIDE SUCKS!!!!!!!!   SO TRUE BUT THE LIFE OF A BABY IS THE BEST ALL THEY DO IS EAT, SLEEP AND SHIT, HOW I WISH I  HAD THE LIFE OF A BABY Quit your job and you can do it too!!!

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McOSIRIS wrote:
please forward the following message to Chile Jr:   STAY IN THERE FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE!!!! THE OUTSIDE SUCKS!!!!!!!!

 
SO TRUE BUT THE LIFE OF A BABY IS THE BEST ALL THEY DO IS EAT, SLEEP AND SHIT, HOW I WISH I  HAD THE LIFE OF A BABY

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Quit your job and you can do it too!!!

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El Duro wrote: @CHILE I'LL GIVE U A WORD OF ADVICE DO  NOT I REPEAT DO NOT GET THE NEDDLE IN YOUR BACK FOR THE PAIN And you have the moral authority to advise her of this because...   How could you possibly know?

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He's got a kid - almost as old as you!

 

OK - so, ... MEN know a thing or two about family/women issues as well!

(created an epidural thread: see possible side effects)

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SO TRUE BUT THE LIFE OF A BABY IS THE BEST ALL THEY DO IS EAT, SLEEP AND SHIT, HOW I WISH I  HAD THE LIFE OF A BABY

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there are some grown ups that have the same lifestyle and they pick up the best chicks.....

BASTARDS!!!