I don't get it, I just don't at all :-(

Sweetness · Guru

RE: I don't get it, I just don't at all :-(

CrazyBeautiful · Guru

y is it that gurls like JERKS.....they say nice guys finish last...i dont get it at all either....its wack

DulceGalletita · Foro Master

Sweetness wrote:

Since we are on this topic...I would like to ask you guys for a bit of advise. I actually have this friend and no it's not me lol....anyway...I have this friend who's boyfriend is abusive verbally, emotionally, and physically, and he is an alcoholic. The thing is he is mostly abusive when he is drunk. On top of all of this she is pregnant by him and is due at the end of this month. I've told her many times that she can do better and she shouldn't put up with this bull. She always says that she is going to leave him but she has not. He has thrown things at her from lit cigarettes to tv stands and has even choked her with a bed sheet. Once she showed me a big a$$ bruise that she had on her breast from when he threw the tv stand at her. He has said that he would go to AA, but has not actually gone. He has also stated while drunk that he is not ready to give up drinking. I have asked her why she's still with him after all the crap that he has done to her while he was drunk and her being pregnant. She says that right now she can't leave him, because financially she is screwed, he is the sole bread winner right now, he is her baby's father, and because she loves him. She said that she'll leave once she is stable enough to support herself and the baby, but I fear that she won't do this. I told her to go back to her mom's but she doesn't want to do that. I'm really worried about her and her baby's safety. I don't know what to do. My question is what should I do to help her get out of this abusive relationship? I grew up with this girl and she is like my sister. I am really worried about her.

OMG!!!!!!!!!! See at this point I would say your friend is CRAZY especially being pregnant and all ... but you see you mentioned the LOVE word and I think that may blind many of the women that go through this as well as fear and low self esteem ... but I don't think your friend will get out unless someone takes her out of the situation ...

I would tell her parents, brother's, uncles whomever to take her out of the situation not only for her safety but for the baby's too ... and there are places that help women ...

But then again if she doesn't want to be helped then that may all backfire ...

I don't know this is just so ... men that hit just get a from me ...

torontotrucho · Guru

SOme people are hard to understand.

Some women get bored when one treats them nicely, while other women appreciate it.

Some women since to feel loved when a man becomes jelous and let them know by physical means, I would say some women even enjoy that.

It could be also that their self -steem is so low that their moral is also low and find this kind of behaviour acceptable.

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

I agree, but my bottle is at home WHAT ARE WE WAITING 4 LET'G GO GET THE BOTTLE COME ON IS FRIDAY N IS COLD N SUNNY OUTSEIDE well mom is home, I don't think she'll understand our needs at this time of the day

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, WE ARE NOT STAYING HOME LoL JUST TELL HER THAT U LEFT SOME IMPORTAN WORK N U NEED IT

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL GO SALSERA GO IS TEQUILA TIME well I don't know if it is Tequila time, but for sure I'll have one tonight if I go to Sin CIty ANY TIME OF THE DAY TEQUILA IS ALWAYS GOOD I agree, but my bottle is at home WHAT ARE WE WAITING 4 LET'G GO GET THE BOTTLE COME ON IS FRIDAY N IS COLD N SUNNY OUTSEIDE

well mom is home, I don't think she'll understand our needs at this time of the day

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL GO SALSERA GO IS TEQUILA TIME well I don't know if it is Tequila time, but for sure I'll have one tonight if I go to Sin CIty ANY TIME OF THE DAY TEQUILA IS ALWAYS GOOD I agree, but my bottle is at home

WHAT ARE WE WAITING 4 LET'G GO GET THE BOTTLE COME ON IS FRIDAY N IS COLD N SUNNY OUTSEIDE

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL GO SALSERA GO IS TEQUILA TIME well I don't know if it is Tequila time, but for sure I'll have one tonight if I go to Sin CIty ANY TIME OF THE DAY TEQUILA IS ALWAYS GOOD

I agree, but my bottle is at home

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL GO SALSERA GO IS TEQUILA TIME well I don't know if it is Tequila time, but for sure I'll have one tonight if I go to Sin CIty

ANY TIME OF THE DAY TEQUILA IS ALWAYS GOOD

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL GO SALSERA GO IS TEQUILA TIME

well I don't know if it is Tequila time, but for sure I'll have one tonight if I go to Sin CIty

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL

GO SALSERA GO IS TEQUILA TIME

LGigolo · Comandante

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

borrachita will see, ummmmmmmmm maybe

y ni invitas, ni nada... ta' bien!

bistor · Guru

DulceGalletita wrote:

Ok, I'm trying to understand but I can't .... Maybe it's just me and the way I was raised and what I believe and understand ... but if anything can get me upset is knowing that a women is being beaten
First and foremost I am STRONGLY against any man raising a finger on a woman no matter what the situation is and no matter if the woman is more of a man (osea like a butch type of female) I don't care it's just a ...
What I don't get is why these women stay with these men ... Please don't tell me love 'cause that is NOT love, I may accept fear but I don't know I just don't understand and hope never to be in a situation like this ever in my life ...
-- Edited by DulceGalletita at 19:45, 2006-05-18

Women are not meant to be understood

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

LGigolo wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL It's only 11:20 and someone is ALREADY sounding (typing?) como una Borrachita!

borrachita will see, ummmmmmmmm maybe

LGigolo · Comandante

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL

It's only 11:20 and someone is ALREADY sounding (typing?) como una Borrachita!

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera

go salsera, it's your b-day, you are going to party like is your b-day LOL

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself

I got your back babe, I know u can kick his Salsera

LGigolo · Comandante

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina? La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

LGigolo wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19 que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina?

La Esquina and more? eso te pasa por decir eso de mi, you see I have back up, even though I can handle you myself

LGigolo · Comandante

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on -- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19

que paso, Vato? No me das la esquina?

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!) very funny, I always make sense that's what I call Vebal abuse Salsera givim a peace of your mind come on girl don't let him get away with it.... Ill help u if u need help I know Joker, you see but is O.K. I know how to make him suffer

Make him suffer come on make him beg u for mercy come on

-- Edited by JOKER_ESCO at 10:34, 2006-05-19

LGigolo · Comandante

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!) very funny, I always make sense that's what I call Vebal abuse Salsera givim a peace of your mind come on girl don't let him get away with it.... Ill help u if u need help I know Joker, you see but is O.K. I know how to make him suffer

I don't even know the definition of "SUFFER" - let alone actually experience the feeling!

-- Edited by LGigolo at 10:31, 2006-05-19

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!) very funny, I always make sense that's what I call Vebal abuse Salsera givim a peace of your mind come on girl don't let him get away with it.... Ill help u if u need help

I know Joker, you see but is O.K. I know how to make him suffer

LGigolo · Comandante

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: LGigolo wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!) very funny, I always make sense that's what I call Vebal abuse Salsera givim a peace of your mind come on girl don't let him get away with it.... Ill help u if u need help

como dicen los Ecuas...

ERES UN ENCAMADOR!

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

LGigolo wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!) very funny, I always make sense

that's what I call Vebal abuse Salsera givim a peace of your mind come on girl don't let him get away with it.... Ill help u if u need help

LGigolo · Comandante

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

LGigolo wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!) very funny, I always make sense

yeah, yeah, OK

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

LGigolo wrote:

Salsera de Corazon wrote: But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean? that you made sense (this time!)

very funny, I always make sense

LGigolo · Comandante

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean?

that you made sense (this time!)

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Some women stay because of their low self-esteem. They think no one else will love them the way this guy "loves" them.

It's sad really. An old friend used to keep popping kids just to keep her "prize". Obviously didn't work.

I had ONE ex-boyfriend who, when I broke up with him and was walking away, hit me with golf club. (No, it wasn't Prieto!!! Prieto would NEVER hit a woman!)

Needless to say, I turned into this rabid squirrel and held a pair of scissors to his neck!!!

I have WAY too much respect for myself to let ANYONE, let alone a man, hit me!!!!

F@CK THAT!!!!

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

I don't get it either but specially how can some fools kill the person they love?? is so freaking selfish, hell no yo no hisiera someting like that, I guess hey guys don't really love this woman, but I think also woman should stand up 4 them self 2...

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!) what is this supposed mean?

LGigolo · Comandante

Sweetness wrote:

Since we are on this topic...I would like to ask you guys for a bit of advise. I actually have this friend and no it's not me lol....anyway...I have this friend who's boyfriend is abusive verbally, emotionally, and physically, and he is an alcoholic. The thing is he is mostly abusive when he is drunk. On top of all of this she is pregnant by him and is due at the end of this month. I've told her many times that she can do better and she shouldn't put up with this bull. She always says that she is going to leave him but she has not. He has thrown things at her from lit cigarettes to tv stands and has even choked her with a bed sheet. Once she showed me a big a$$ bruise that she had on her breast from when he threw the tv stand at her. He has said that he would go to AA, but has not actually gone. He has also stated while drunk that he is not ready to give up drinking. I have asked her why she's still with him after all the crap that he has done to her while he was drunk and her being pregnant. She says that right now she can't leave him, because financially she is screwed, he is the sole bread winner right now, he is her baby's father, and because she loves him. She said that she'll leave once she is stable enough to support herself and the baby, but I fear that she won't do this. I told her to go back to her mom's but she doesn't want to do that. I'm really worried about her and her baby's safety. I don't know what to do. My question is what should I do to help her get out of this abusive relationship? I grew up with this girl and she is like my sister. I am really worried about her.

DAAAAAAMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNN

That’s some SERIOUS shiit she’s putting up with… No woman should have to go through so much or put up with so much from her man.

But like Salsera said (and she makes sense for the first time, ever!), you can not really help her, unless SHE wants to be helped. She needs to realize that she and her child deserve a better life than that and need to move on – that although life may be tougher as a single mom, she would not be the first or the last to go through it and that she CAN make it on her own if she chooses.

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

Sweetness wrote:

Since we are on this topic...I would like to ask you guys for a bit of advise. I actually have this friend and no it's not me lol....anyway...I have this friend who's boyfriend is abusive verbally, emotionally, and physically, and he is an alcoholic. The thing is he is mostly abusive when he is drunk. On top of all of this she is pregnant by him and is due at the end of this month. I've told her many times that she can do better and she shouldn't put up with this bull. She always says that she is going to leave him but she has not. He has thrown things at her from lit cigarettes to tv stands and has even choked her with a bed sheet. Once she showed me a big a$$ bruise that she had on her breast from when he threw the tv stand at her. He has said that he would go to AA, but has not actually gone. He has also stated while drunk that he is not ready to give up drinking. I have asked her why she's still with him after all the crap that he has done to her while he was drunk and her being pregnant. She says that right now she can't leave him, because financially she is screwed, he is the sole bread winner right now, he is her baby's father, and because she loves him. She said that she'll leave once she is stable enough to support herself and the baby, but I fear that she won't do this. I told her to go back to her mom's but she doesn't want to do that. I'm really worried about her and her baby's safety. I don't know what to do. My question is what should I do to help her get out of this abusive relationship? I grew up with this girl and she is like my sister. I am really worried about her.

Well honey, you can't help somebody that doesn't want help, you see. I don't even think she cares about the child she is expecting, if she really loved her child, she would it walk away from him long time, she doesn't want to leave him, so really there is nothing you can do, I just hope that by the time she really wants to walk away it won't be too late

Sweetness · Guru

Since we are on this topic...I would like to ask you guys for a bit of advise. I actually have this friend and no it's not me lol....anyway...I have this friend who's boyfriend is abusive verbally, emotionally, and physically, and he is an alcoholic. The thing is he is mostly abusive when he is drunk. On top of all of this she is pregnant by him and is due at the end of this month.

I've told her many times that she can do better and she shouldn't put up with this bull. She always says that she is going to leave him but she has not. He has thrown things at her from lit cigarettes to tv stands and has even choked her with a bed sheet. Once she showed me a big a$$ bruise that she had on her breast from when he threw the tv stand at her. He has said that he would go to AA, but has not actually gone. He has also stated while drunk that he is not ready to give up drinking.

I have asked her why she's still with him after all the crap that he has done to her while he was drunk and her being pregnant. She says that right now she can't leave him, because financially she is screwed, he is the sole bread winner right now, he is her baby's father, and because she loves him. She said that she'll leave once she is stable enough to support herself and the baby, but I fear that she won't do this. I told her to go back to her mom's but she doesn't want to do that. I'm really worried about her and her baby's safety. I don't know what to do. My question is what should I do to help her get out of this abusive relationship? I grew up with this girl and she is like my sister. I am really worried about her.

RICKYRICARDO · Guru

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

furious:RICKYRICARDO wrote: dont worry Galletita...Ricky will never let that happen to you.... I got your back... and yeah...Hi by the way...thanks for the welcome...you are numero uno now she is your numero uno

oh come on baby...you know you are the ONE...

Sweetness · Guru

DulceGalletita wrote:

Ok, I'm trying to understand but I can't .... Maybe it's just me and the way I was raised and what I believe and understand ... but if anything can get me upset is knowing that a women is being beaten First and foremost I am STRONGLY against any man raising a finger on a woman no matter what the situation is and no matter if the woman is more of a man (osea like a butch type of female) I don't care it's just a ... What I don't get is why these women stay with these men ... Please don't tell me love 'cause that is NOT love, I may accept fear but I don't know I just don't understand and hope never to be in a situation like this ever in my life ... -- Edited by DulceGalletita at 19:45, 2006-05-18

I guess no one will truly understand why some women stay with these type of men unless they have gone through this themselves. I guess each woman has their reasons. I think that some reasons might be fear, lack of self-esteem, some may feel that they can somehow change these bone heads, some may feel or might be told by their abusers that they will not find anyone better then them or whatever, lack of funds, if they have children they may think that it's their duty to stay for their sake when in reality they're making it worse for their kids, some might have been abused by a parent and might think that somehow this is normal because that is all they have known, and the list goes on and on. There are so many reasons, but to me there is no one good reason to stay with a man that beats you period.

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

DulceGalletita wrote:

Ok, I'm trying to understand but I can't .... Maybe it's just me and the way I was raised and what I believe and understand ... but if anything can get me upset is knowing that a women is being beaten First and foremost I am STRONGLY against any man raising a finger on a woman no matter what the situation is and no matter if the woman is more of a man (osea like a butch type of female) I don't care it's just a ... What I don't get is why these women stay with these men ... Please don't tell me love 'cause that is NOT love, I may accept fear but I don't know I just don't understand and hope never to be in a situation like this ever in my life ... -- Edited by DulceGalletita at 19:45, 2006-05-18

I agree there is no excuse for a man to hit a women,but what is worse is the women accepting it,specially here in Canada where the women is very protective so I agree with you Dulce

latinsoulchild · TOP Guru

DulceGalletita wrote:

latinsoulchild wrote: Aww thanks man..I never knew I could be portrayed as a hero..lol Naw...seriously though....a man hitting a woman is a serious thing. I'm totally against that. LoL ... No I'm sure everyone believes it's a serious thing ... but I just don't get it ... first why a man can even hit a woman I mean I'm sure they were told that is something you just don't do ... But I'm still perplexed on why woman stay with them and even stick up for these men

It could be two things....either manipulation, or fear...

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

furious:RICKYRICARDO wrote:

dont worry Galletita...Ricky will never let that happen to you.... I got your back... and yeah...Hi by the way...thanks for the welcome...you are numero uno

now she is your numero uno

DulceGalletita · Foro Master

latinsoulchild wrote:

Aww thanks man..I never knew I could be portrayed as a hero..lol Naw...seriously though....a man hitting a woman is a serious thing. I'm totally against that.

LoL ...

No I'm sure everyone believes it's a serious thing ... but I just don't get it ... first why a man can even hit a woman I mean I'm sure they were told that is something you just don't do ...

But I'm still perplexed on why woman stay with them and even stick up for these men

latinsoulchild · TOP Guru

RICKYRICARDO wrote:

dont worry Galletita...Ricky will never let that happen to you.... I got your back... and yeah...Hi by the way...thanks for the welcome...you are numero uno

Aww thanks man..I never knew I could be portrayed as a hero..lol

Naw...seriously though....a man hitting a woman is a serious thing. I'm totally against that.

DulceGalletita · Foro Master

RICKYRICARDO wrote:

dont worry Galletita...Ricky will never let that happen to you.... I got your back... and yeah...Hi by the way...thanks for the welcome...you are numero uno

Umm, I'm ok with you not letting it happen ... ummm, you have my back

AWWWWWWW

RICKYRICARDO · Guru

dont worry Galletita...Ricky will never let that happen to you....

I got your back...

and yeah...Hi by the way...thanks for the welcome...you are numero uno

DulceGalletita · Foro Master

Ok, I'm trying to understand but I can't .... Maybe it's just me and the way I was raised and what I believe and understand ... but if anything can get me upset is knowing that a women is being beaten

First and foremost I am STRONGLY against any man raising a finger on a woman no matter what the situation is and no matter if the woman is more of a man (osea like a butch type of female) I don't care it's just a ...

What I don't get is why these women stay with these men ... Please don't tell me love 'cause that is NOT love, I may accept fear but I don't know I just don't understand and hope never to be in a situation like this ever in my life ...

-- Edited by DulceGalletita at 19:45, 2006-05-18