Toronto Football (Soccer) Club

Bainaman · Foro Master

RE: Toronto Football (Soccer) Club

Chilenita · Comandante

Bainaman wrote:

I wanna see Confu, Genie, Daeveed, Chilenita, Ecuasteelo, Duro, Lgig and LSC front and center at their first game! I'm sure they'll be there supporting soccer. PPPPPFFFFFFFTTTTTTT!!!!!!

Umm yeah I will support soccer in Toronto as I have been for the last 10 years.

You are right I can't see where you said you didn't like it. It just seems like you don't.

Question to you know....how much do you really support baseball in Toronto?

GENIE · Foro Master

Chilenita wrote:

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO Bravo My brother coached rep soccer for 11 year old boys for years. At one point he coached the best team in Ontario. He did it for the love of the sport. He would always get so frustrated when he came along a player that had serious potential because he always knew that there was no future for them in soccer in this country. Perhaps things will change in Canada for soccer. I hope they do. One of his best friends played for our national team but unded up having to go to Portugal to make some money in this sport.

U SEE WHAT ALOT OF PPL DONT REALIZE IS THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL! WHEN I ASSISTED COACHED THE REXDALE BOYS SOCCER TEAM UNDER 18 I GOT THREE OF THEM SCHOLARSHIPS! TWO FULL PAID AND ONE ENTRY SCHOLARSHIP! ONE ENDED UP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WATERLOO, ANOTHER ONE AT YORK UNIV AND THE SECOND ONE WITH THE FULL SCHOLARSHIP WAS AT OTTAWA UNIV. SO I MEAN THERES TONS OF POTENTIAL AND UNIVERSITIES DO LOOK BUT ITS UP TO THE PPL TO CHASE DOWN THE SCOUTS!

ORALES DAD HAS IN ALMOST ALL THE SPANISH LEAGUES AND ALL AGES CRUZ AZUL HIS BOYS UNDER 21 FIVE YES FIVE HE CALLED AN HOUNDED AND DID WHAT HE COULD CUZ HE KNOWS THEY HAVE SKILL! AND NOW ONE HAS A SCHOLARSHIP TO UNIVERSITY OF ROCHESTER NEW YORK, TWO ARE PLAYING FOR CRUZ AZUL IN MEXICO AND ONE HAS A SCHOLARSHIP TO YORK UNIV FULLY PAID WHILE THE LAST ONE HAS A CHOICE OF UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN OR U OF T!

I HOPE THIS TRULY INSPIRES MORE KIDS TO FOLLOW THERE DREAMS AND GETS MORE UNIVERSITIES INVOLVED.

JUST LIKE FOR TORONTO FC I HOPE THEY USE MORE CANADIAN PLAYERS THEN AMERICANS! CUZ THAT MY FRIENDS WOULD SUCK!!!!

Bainaman · Foro Master

Chilenita wrote:

Bainaman...let me get this straight you can watch and entire baseball game (chinese water torture) but you don't really like soccer?

CAn you please point out to me where I said I didn't like soccer?!!?!?

I actually said to Genie.....that I did.

Chilenita · Comandante

Marky Mark wrote:

Chilenita wrote: Bainaman...let me get this straight you can watch and entire baseball game (chinese water torture) but you don't really like soccer? I agree... baseball is for retirees who have time to give a crap about useless stats. To answer Bainaman's comment about kids wanting to be a Flutie or Carter, no one cares about the CFL.. and honestly the baseball strike killed the sport and any interest one may have for it. Soccer will always be supported for childrens leagues because it's probably the most affordable sport a family can invest in for their child to play. And yes, dreams are and should be motivated by one's own ambition but have u ever dreamed about performing sax for some great salsa orchestra or artist? Haven't for one second you thought while rounding the bases as a kid... I would love to play for the Yankees (or whatever team u liked). It didn't make u a better player or more interested in it but it was something that helped on days u didn't want to go to practice or rehearsal. C'mon, if you're gonna kick your ass to do something day in, day out, wouldn't it be nice to know there's a reason for all that sacrifice? I'm pretty sure if u ask any kid playing the game (the serious ones) why they play and love the sport or pursue it into college level why they do it, they're NOT going to say.. 'my dream is to become a high school gym teacher to teach what i know to unappreciative kids'.

BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO Bravo

My brother coached rep soccer for 11 year old boys for years. At one point he coached the best team in Ontario. He did it for the love of the sport. He would always get so frustrated when he came along a player that had serious potential because he always knew that there was no future for them in soccer in this country. Perhaps things will change in Canada for soccer. I hope they do. One of his best friends played for our national team but unded up having to go to Portugal to make some money in this sport.

Lahtina · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

Chain myself to the stadium..... HHHMMMM!! That's a thought! Screw them little kids. Where there's a will and desire to play a sport.....you'll play it anywhere no matter what. I use to play baseball in Panama with a ball made out of tape....and we'd use our fists as a bat. (yeah...bring on the jokes) When was the last time you saw kids playing ANYTHING at a school yard?!?!? I used to go and play baseball, basketball and hockey on a daily basis.......Now a days if you see a kid playing a sport....is mostly some parent forcing their kid to do it.....'cause they see $$$ at the end of the line.....or they want to live out some sort of dream of their own through their kid. So now this big stadium is suppose to inspire kids to wanna play pro soccer??? I don't think so. Especially when here in Toronto....there are sooo many "soccer fans" already that "support" soccer.....why waste the tax money? They only soccer games that get sold out are when they bring European teams over. So what does that tell ya? THat the soccer market here is false....and all that money will be a waste.

I don't spy on kids while they're playing in the school yard, creepo! I strongly suggest you don't either!

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Chilenita wrote:

Bainaman...let me get this straight you can watch and entire baseball game (chinese water torture) but you don't really like soccer?

I agree... baseball is for retirees who have time to give a crap about useless stats.

To answer Bainaman's comment about kids wanting to be a Flutie or Carter, no one cares about the CFL.. and honestly the baseball strike killed the sport and any interest one may have for it.

Soccer will always be supported for childrens leagues because it's probably the most affordable sport a family can invest in for their child to play.

And yes, dreams are and should be motivated by one's own ambition but have u ever dreamed about performing sax for some great salsa orchestra or artist? Haven't for one second you thought while rounding the bases as a kid... I would love to play for the Yankees (or whatever team u liked). It didn't make u a better player or more interested in it but it was something that helped on days u didn't want to go to practice or rehearsal.

C'mon, if you're gonna kick your ass to do something day in, day out, wouldn't it be nice to know there's a reason for all that sacrifice? I'm pretty sure if u ask any kid playing the game (the serious ones) why they play and love the sport or pursue it into college level why they do it, they're NOT going to say.. 'my dream is to become a high school gym teacher to teach what i know to unappreciative kids'.

Daeveed · Foro Master

I just hope that they capture the essence of futbol matches, and don't put stupid idiotic Shit like cheerleaders, music during little intervals, retarded mascots, and stupid chants like "chaaaaarge".....

...actually cheerleaders are fine.

El Pibe · Guru

Sure, but that is all that Toronto FC needs, a couple of big name players at the tail end of their career to help bring in people to the stadium. I'm not suggesting that they will go out and buy a Cristiano Ronaldo, or a Wayne Rooney, but more someone to the likes of a Del Piero, Zidane, Figo... Guys who are passed their prime and just because of their name they will draw a crowd. I know that the players I mentioned above would never come here, but I hope this clears up what I'm trying to say.

When the MLS first started, each team had one aged star on their squad to get ppl into the stands ie. DC United had Etchevery, Tampa had Valderrama, I think NY/NJ had Stoichkov. Big named players passed their prime, playing in the MLS for an extra buck, but also to put butts in the stadium seats.

Bainaman · Foro Master

El Pibe wrote:

And before the strike, when they brought in guys like Owen Nolan, Ed Belfour, Curtis Joseph, Joe Nieuwendyk, Brian Leetch, and so on and so forth ... Yup bunch of no name players there. To answer your question, I can't say that I see much of kids playing anything these days. Remember, MLSE is a money making machine, and they know that they will need to spend a little of $$$ now, to see this franchise grow, and become a success. They want ppl in the stands, they won't make an investment into something they won't push for.

All past their prime over paid players.

Belfour and Joseph are the only two that you mentioned....and contributed to the club for an extended period of time.

Chilenita · Comandante

Bainaman...let me get this straight you can watch and entire baseball game (chinese water torture) but you don't really like soccer?

El Pibe · Guru

The city of T.O. has to show that soccer does matter, if MLSE gets a strong response from fans, then they will ensure that it grows, and they know that they need to buy a big name, in order to draw more attention to the team. Besides, what else is there to do in the summer time. For those who are not baseball fanatics, and would only go to a blue jay game once in a while... Now they have another option. And with the large amount of landed immigrants that reside in TO, there should be a strong support base for the team.

El Pibe · Guru

And before the strike, when they brought in guys like Owen Nolan, Ed Belfour, Curtis Joseph, Joe Nieuwendyk, Brian Leetch, and so on and so forth ... Yup bunch of no name players there.

To answer your question, I can't say that I see much of kids playing anything these days.

Remember, MLSE is a money making machine, and they know that they will need to spend a little of $$$ now, to see this franchise grow, and become a success. They want ppl in the stands, they won't make an investment into something they won't push for.

Daeveed · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

If they don't even do it for HOCKEY.....what makes you think they'll do it for soccer?!?!?!?

Because soccer matters.

Bainaman · Foro Master

El Pibe wrote:

@ Marky Mark; you are right, the kids in this city will have something to strive for now. Before, all kids would do is pay some coaches who had small conections for try outs, or try to get scholarships to the states. Now we can develop home grown talent, and help progress Canada as a soccer nation.

We had back to back World Championships in baseball.

From 1996 to 1997 we had the best quarterback in the CFL, arguably the best CFL team...winning back to back championships.

Now you tell me......how many kids do you see playing american football and baseball on the streets??? Striving to be the next Doug Flutie or Joe Carter...

And if you think that MLSE will be bringing BIG TIME players here to play soccer......you're terribly mistaken. If they don't even do it for HOCKEY.....what makes you think they'll do it for soccer?!?!?!?

El Pibe · Guru

With Maple Leaf Sport Entertainment financially backing this MLS team, there will be good chances that it will be successful. They'll need to sign some big name players, at the end of their careers (like the MLS did when it first started). The names will bring in a good crowd, and since this city is so divers, Europeans, Latin Americans, thier will be solid support for this team.

Toronto FC GOOD LUCK

@ Marky Mark; you are right, the kids in this city will have something to strive for now. Before, all kids would do is pay some coaches who had small conections for try outs, or try to get scholarships to the states. Now we can develop home grown talent, and help progress Canada as a soccer nation.

Bainaman · Foro Master

GENIE wrote:

ACTUALLY ORALES DAD GOT US TICKETS FOR THE FIRST GAME! AND I AM EXCITED U KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS FOR MOST OF OUR YOUTHS!!! I COACHED SOCCER AND I LOVED IT AND I LOVE TO WATCH IT I WAKE UP EARLY JUST FOR THAT SO HATERS!! U DONT LIKE IT CUZ YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IT!!!

Wrong dear!

I don't hate soccer.

In fact.....I enjoy watching a good match. And I do understand it a lot more than you might think.

I'm glad to see you're going to the first game.

Hope to see you at the second and third as well!!

Bainaman · Foro Master

Marky Mark wrote:

Yes I agree!!! On all points... but you have to move past it man. It's here and like I said it will be a waste only if there's no support. Honestly they could have used any existing venue already like the Coffee Time arena but oh well. And my point with the kids is there was nowhere to go for soccer players in Canada, now there's hope. I think.

Fine!

It's here.

I'll deal with it.

I'll go to the damn games to support it.

Wanna come with me? Miguel, god del foro....wanna come?

We'll try to sit with the rest of the foro soccer supporters if they allow us "non-supporters" to sit with them.

As for the kids.....You create your own dreams...and have the power to create your own avenues to persue them....no matter what!

GENIE · Foro Master

ACTUALLY ORALES DAD GOT US TICKETS FOR THE FIRST GAME! AND I AM EXCITED U KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS FOR MOST OF OUR YOUTHS!!!

I COACHED SOCCER AND I LOVED IT AND I LOVE TO WATCH IT I WAKE UP EARLY JUST FOR THAT SO HATERS!! U DONT LIKE IT CUZ YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IT!!!

Bainaman · Foro Master

Marky Mark wrote:

What's worse is these same people care more about El Duro's hair than their beloved soccer!!!!

Like I said....

..they're probably in line buying their season tickets RIGHT NOW!!!

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Yes I agree!!! On all points... but you have to move past it man. It's here and like I said it will be a waste only if there's no support. Honestly they could have used any existing venue already like the Coffee Time arena but oh well.

And my point with the kids is there was nowhere to go for soccer players in Canada, now there's hope. I think.

Bainaman · Foro Master

Marky Mark wrote:

Since we're the only two talking in here, let me just say this: EVERYONE ON FORO SUCKS!!! Ok, seriously, I read your thread and I agree, it is a waste of money. They could have been smart about it and used a smaller venue. They are basing a lot of expectations on European and S. American leagues. Canada has three sports: HOCKEY, HOCKEY AND HOCKEY. That being said and since you aren't chained to the stadium in protest. I think we should support this franchise. The deal is done and the team is here. Imagine all the kids growing up in the country who dream about being in the NHL or the NBA... now soccer fans have something to aim for as well. To God's point about it being an investor's waste of money... it is or will be without support, then it's a waste. But in my opinion, business builds business... think of the jobs and other businesses this has the potential to create. And yes, I understand your point... there are a lot of people doing a lot of cheering and talking about going but we'll see who actually does support it.

Chain myself to the stadium.....

HHHMMMM!! That's a thought!

Screw them little kids. Where there's a will and desire to play a sport.....you'll play it anywhere no matter what. I use to play baseball in Panama with a ball made out of tape....and we'd use our fists as a bat. (yeah...bring on the jokes)

When was the last time you saw kids playing ANYTHING at a school yard?!?!?

I used to go and play baseball, basketball and hockey on a daily basis.......Now a days if you see a kid playing a sport....is mostly some parent forcing their kid to do it.....'cause they see $$$ at the end of the line.....or they want to live out some sort of dream of their own through their kid.

So now this big stadium is suppose to inspire kids to wanna play pro soccer??? I don't think so.

Especially when here in Toronto....there are sooo many "soccer fans" already that "support" soccer.....why waste the tax money?

They only soccer games that get sold out are when they bring European teams over. So what does that tell ya? THat the soccer market here is false....and all that money will be a waste.

Marky Mark · Foro Master

What's worse is these same people care more about El Duro's hair than their beloved soccer!!!!

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Since we're the only two talking in here, let me just say this: EVERYONE ON FORO SUCKS!!!

Ok, seriously, I read your thread and I agree, it is a waste of money. They could have been smart about it and used a smaller venue. They are basing a lot of expectations on European and S. American leagues. Canada has three sports: HOCKEY, HOCKEY AND HOCKEY.

That being said and since you aren't chained to the stadium in protest. I think we should support this franchise. The deal is done and the team is here. Imagine all the kids growing up in the country who dream about being in the NHL or the NBA... now soccer fans have something to aim for as well.

To God's point about it being an investor's waste of money... it is or will be without support, then it's a waste. But in my opinion, business builds business... think of the jobs and other businesses this has the potential to create.

And yes, I understand your point... there are a lot of people doing a lot of cheering and talking about going but we'll see who actually does support it.

Bainaman · Foro Master

I wanna see Confu, Genie, Daeveed, Chilenita, Ecuasteelo, Duro, Lgig and LSC front and center at their first game!

I'm sure they'll be there supporting soccer.

PPPPPFFFFFFFTTTTTTT!!!!!!

Bainaman · Foro Master

Marky Mark wrote:

People of Toronto love ideas and proposals but will only support a winner. Except the Leafs.. they've sucked for almost 40 years (yes the last time they won the Cup), no one can explain THAT fan base.

I think when it comes to soccer, people will stick to their native country team.... unless Toronto does well of course.

You should read my thread.

I had people down my throat....saying that they would undoubtedly support pro soccer.....about time....finally....ra ra ra......bla bla bla....

And Now?!?!?

What??

Did they swallow their tongues? Cut their fingers so they can't type???

I even asked people if they had ever seen the Toronto Lynx play.

Some had....once in a blue moon. But I'm sure they'll go more often....now that all their tax money went into building a new stadium to bring in a new team. For sure. That will make them go!!!!

Marky Mark · Foro Master

People of Toronto love ideas and proposals but will only support a winner. Except the Leafs.. they've sucked for almost 40 years (yes the last time they won the Cup), no one can explain THAT fan base.

I think when it comes to soccer, people will stick to their native country team.... unless Toronto does well of course.

Bainaman · Foro Master

YOu know what's funny.

All those who supported the stadium build on my thread....and wanted pro soccer here soooooooooooo badly.....'cause they'd go watch it.....

NONE OF THEM have said a peep about the new team here in Toronto.

They must all be in line getting their season tickets.

right?!?!??

riiiiiiiight!

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Point taken Bainaman. And thank you for not DARTing me. Next time don't make your threads obscure in the titles!!!!!

But now it's beyond caring. It's here. The question now is who will support it?

Eventually it will go private like any big business (or failing business for that matter), so I think now that it's here, we should give it a chance.

Personally I find baseball more exciting than soccer, and that says a lot

But if Toronto can be represented in another pro league on an international level, I think it's worth a shot.

That's my

Now fakk off!!!

Bainaman · Foro Master

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