. Pardon my French, Buggy, but how on earth is telling us latin women that "we all fell off from the stupid tree and hit every branch on our way down" going to encourage us to attain a higher education? If anything, I find this line downright insulting. But that's just me, I guess, reading between the lines, right? Now, how can I look at this guy in the face knowing what his concept of latin women is. How can anyone see this guy face to face and not think that? It just boggles my mind. And don't get me wrong. It's not hatred towards the guy. I couldn't care less about him because 1) he's not part of my life 2) never was 3) never will be. But if we don't teach our latin men to treat us with respect and to encourage change in a positive manner, not just for women, but for everyone, how will they get the message? Seriously.
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I haven't responded to any thing you have posted in the past because you have posted anything worth responding to.
I didn't say that about latin women. I choose my words carefully (most of the time) so I find it irritating when people misquote me or take it out of context. Reading between the lines just justifies your anger. Anyone who holds grudges as long as you do or goes looking for things that are not there (reading between the lines) just to be angry has some personal issues that have little to do with me.
I agree about us probably never getting along. Anyone who prides themselves on TV watching is not the type of person I would normally hang out with anyway.
TV Buff wrote: Marky Mark wrote: Yes... Bistor showed up too! Sorry, MiMi, for taking the spotlight away from your big event! Happy Birthday again! MARIAH IS A MEMBER????
He went from Eminem to Marky Mary to Maria Mercedes (too long) to MiMi. It's easier to type.
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TV Buff wrote: Marky Mark wrote: Yes... Bistor showed up too! Sorry, MiMi, for taking the spotlight away from your big event! Happy Birthday again! LOL, it's been so long since my birthday, it's almost time for my next one!
YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER BIRTHDAY WHEN "I" SAY IT'S TIME....LOL
RIGHT DOGO??
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LaDyBuG wrote: that feel they are in a position to judge anyone. I AGREE WITH THAT POINT.... AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF "LOOKING" FOR SOMEONE.....IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE THAT IT'S A MAJORITY ISSUE.....WITH NO VALID EXCUSE.....HE JUST WANTS TO SEE HIS OWN PEOPLE BETTER THMSELVES WITH A HIGHER LEARNING....THAT'S ALL. Pardon my French, Buggy, but how on earth is telling us latin women that "we all fell off from the stupid tree and hit every branch on our way down" going to encourage us to attain a higher education? If anything, I find this line downright insulting. But that's just me, I guess, reading between the lines, right? Now, how can I look at this guy in the face knowing what his concept of latin women is. How can anyone see this guy face to face and not think that? It just boggles my mind. And don't get me wrong. It's not hatred towards the guy. I couldn't care less about him because 1) he's not part of my life 2) never was 3) never will be. But if we don't teach our latin men to treat us with respect and to encourage change in a positive manner, not just for women, but for everyone, how will they get the message? Seriously.
Great points as always Buff!
Oh and I think his exact words were...."I have been looking for a slim, educated latina and I have come to the conclusion that there are none" well in Toronto anyway.
So yeah it's more about the way he came off. It's fine to want to add some fire to this boring forum but there are other ways to do it.
I can't believe we are still talking about this....I was just curious to know if anyone had asked him about it. I am sure there were more interesting things going on at MM's bday then Neruda showing up.
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LaDyBuG wrote: that feel they are in a position to judge anyone. I AGREE WITH THAT POINT.... AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF "LOOKING" FOR SOMEONE.....IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE THAT IT'S A MAJORITY ISSUE.....WITH NO VALID EXCUSE.....HE JUST WANTS TO SEE HIS OWN PEOPLE BETTER THMSELVES WITH A HIGHER LEARNING....THAT'S ALL. Pardon my French, Buggy, but how on earth is telling us latin women that "we all fell off from the stupid tree and hit every branch on our way down" going to encourage us to attain a higher education? If anything, I find this line downright insulting. But that's just me, I guess, reading between the lines, right? Now, how can I look at this guy in the face knowing what his concept of latin women is. How can anyone see this guy face to face and not think that? It just boggles my mind. And don't get me wrong. It's not hatred towards the guy. I couldn't care less about him because 1) he's not part of my life 2) never was 3) never will be. But if we don't teach our latin men to treat us with respect and to encourage change in a positive manner, not just for women, but for everyone, how will they get the message? Seriously.
HE SAID THAT???
WELL THAT'S SOMETHING HE'S GONNA HAVE TO ANSWER
LIKE I SAID...I MISSED THE WHOLE TREE THING...I WAS FILLED IN HERE AND THERE WITH NO DETAILS....
I SEE YOUR POINT AND IF THAT WAS THE CASE, HIS APPROACH WAS NOT THE SMARTEST (LIKE DOGO SAID).....THE POINTS WERE VALID....BUT NOT THE EXECUTION.
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that feel they are in a position to judge anyone. I AGREE WITH THAT POINT.... AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF "LOOKING" FOR SOMEONE.....IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE THAT IT'S A MAJORITY ISSUE.....WITH NO VALID EXCUSE.....HE JUST WANTS TO SEE HIS OWN PEOPLE BETTER THMSELVES WITH A HIGHER LEARNING....THAT'S ALL.
Pardon my French, Buggy, but how on earth is telling us latin women that "we all fell off from the stupid tree and hit every branch on our way down" going to encourage us to attain a higher education? If anything, I find this line downright insulting. But that's just me, I guess, reading between the lines, right? Now, how can I look at this guy in the face knowing what his concept of latin women is. How can anyone see this guy face to face and not think that? It just boggles my mind. And don't get me wrong. It's not hatred towards the guy. I couldn't care less about him because 1) he's not part of my life 2) never was 3) never will be. But if we don't teach our latin men to treat us with respect and to encourage change in a positive manner, not just for women, but for everyone, how will they get the message? Seriously.
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Dogo wrote: They points neruda made were valid.... how it was presented was very insensitive, so were his replies (as were my replys to him, simply in reaction to his)I see how a forum would be an easy place to be "raw" I guess we're all guilty of that, but neruda took the gold.........but I guess I've learned to not take everyones tone, here, too seriously
I haven't read the infamous 'tree' thread but from what Ladybug has paraphrased, Neruda makes sense. I relate it to filipino women I know or have known... they were either too much into parties, already preggers (from all the partying), too dumb to chew gum or if they were at all smart, intellectual, responsible or caring... they were ugly enough to be related to me! That's why I've never dated my own race.. I've looked but never found. It's quite frustrating so I totally understand Neruda's point. If I may add, to only have an elementary school education back in the day, which most of our grandparents had, was acceptable back then but in this day and age, no one (in Canada anyway) would be able to survive with just that... I agree, the foro can be boring (see last night), and an intellectual debate once in a while is gladly welcomed. That's my 2cents... so everyone, just fak off! Btw, I'm not defending Neruda, I'm just really bored too, you all suck!!!!, I'm gonna post in the hate thread for a while. BOOYAH!!!
They points neruda made were valid.... how it was presented was very insensitive, so were his replies (as were my replys to him, simply in reaction to his) I see how a forum would be an easy place to be "raw" I guess we're all guilty of that, but neruda took the gold.........but I guess I've learned to not take everyones tone, here, too seriously
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I haven't read the infamous 'tree' thread but from what Ladybug has paraphrased, Neruda makes sense. I relate it to filipino women I know or have known... they were either too much into parties, already preggers (from all the partying), too dumb to chew gum or if they were at all smart, intellectual, responsible or caring... they were ugly enough to be related to me! That's why I've never dated my own race.. I've looked but never found. It's quite frustrating so I totally understand Neruda's point. If I may add, to only have an elementary school education back in the day, which most of our grandparents had, was acceptable back then but in this day and age, no one (in Canada anyway) would be able to survive with just that... I agree, the foro can be boring (see last night), and an intellectual debate once in a while is gladly welcomed. That's my 2cents... so everyone, just fak off! Btw, I'm not defending Neruda, I'm just really bored too, you all suck!!!!, I'm gonna post in the hate thread for a while. BOOYAH!!!
HAHAHAHAHA
TOO DUMB TO CHEW GUM.....LOL
WITH YOUR PERMISSION....I WILL USE THAT ONCE IN A WHILE.
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I haven't read the infamous 'tree' thread but from what Ladybug has paraphrased, Neruda makes sense. I relate it to filipino women I know or have known... they were either too much into parties, already preggers (from all the partying), too dumb to chew gum or if they were at all smart, intellectual, responsible or caring... they were ugly enough to be related to me!
That's why I've never dated my own race.. I've looked but never found. It's quite frustrating so I totally understand Neruda's point.
If I may add, to only have an elementary school education back in the day, which most of our grandparents had, was acceptable back then but in this day and age, no one (in Canada anyway) would be able to survive with just that...
I agree, the foro can be boring (see last night), and an intellectual debate once in a while is gladly welcomed.
That's my 2cents... so everyone, just fak off!
Btw, I'm not defending Neruda, I'm just really bored too, you all suck!!!!, I'm gonna post in the hate thread for a while. BOOYAH!!!
If he can't find one, he isn't looking. I'll add that the same is true for hispanic men. We are underrepresented at the postsecondary education level, but that doesn't mean we don't exist. Regardless, I can't say I care much for this sort of pomposity. An education does not make you a better human being. My grandparents have (had) an elementary school education, and did the best they could in life, given their circumstances. Life is too short to listen to twits that feel they are in a position to judge anyone.
I AGREE WITH THAT POINT....
AND IT'S NOT A MATTER OF "LOOKING" FOR SOMEONE.....IT JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE THAT IT'S A MAJORITY ISSUE.....WITH NO VALID EXCUSE.....HE JUST WANTS TO SEE HIS OWN PEOPLE BETTER THMSELVES WITH A HIGHER LEARNING....THAT'S ALL.
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I'll add that the same is true for hispanic men. We are underrepresented at the postsecondary education level, but that doesn't mean we don't exist.
Regardless, I can't say I care much for this sort of pomposity. An education does not make you a better human being. My grandparents have (had) an elementary school education, and did the best they could in life, given their circumstances.
Life is too short to listen to twits that feel they are in a position to judge anyone.
@ BUFFY I FOR ONE WANTED TO MEET NERUDA AND ASK HIM ABOUT THAT WHOLE TREE THEORY AND I DID....AND IT TURNS OUT HE WAS DOING IT TO MAKE PEOPLE "THINK & REACT" ON A FORUM THAT AT THAT TIME WAS BOOOOOOOOOOOOORING....HE WAS SPICING THINGS UP I GUESS....HE WAS EVEN LAUGHING WHEN I ASKED HIM.....LIKE OHHH YEAAHHH THE TREE AND THE BRANCHES....LOL I NEVER CLOSELY FOLLOWED UP ON ANYTHING ABOUT NERUDA....DURING THAT TIME I WAS BUSY WITH OTHER THINGS.....SO I JUST HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT WHAT HE HAS SAID......AND ALSO HOW SOME PEOPLE BLEW STUFF OUT OF PROPORTION...... IN REGARDS TO LATINAS NOT GOING TO UNIVERSITY OR UPGRADING THEMSELVES vs PARTYING AND JUST HAVING KIDS....ETC.....I POINTED OUT BEFORE AND I WILL DO IT AGAIN.....HE HAD A VALID POINT....MAYBE IT'S THE WAY HE SAYS THINGS THAT BOTHER PEOPLE....BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE....HE WAS RIGHT.....AS AN EDUCATED MAN, HE'S LOOKING FOR AN EDUCATED GIRL (LET'S SAY) AND HE HAS SUCH A HARD TIME FINDING ONE.....SO I'M SURE IT BOTHERS HIM THAT HIS OWN CULTURE IS NOT FOCUSING MORE ON BETTERING THEMSELVES....THAT'S ALL...
I FOR ONE WANTED TO MEET NERUDA AND ASK HIM ABOUT THAT WHOLE TREE THEORY AND I DID....AND IT TURNS OUT HE WAS DOING IT TO MAKE PEOPLE "THINK & REACT" ON A FORUM THAT AT THAT TIME WAS BOOOOOOOOOOOOORING....HE WAS SPICING THINGS UP I GUESS....HE WAS EVEN LAUGHING WHEN I ASKED HIM.....LIKE OHHH YEAAHHH THE TREE AND THE BRANCHES....LOL
I NEVER CLOSELY FOLLOWED UP ON ANYTHING ABOUT NERUDA....DURING THAT TIME I WAS BUSY WITH OTHER THINGS.....SO I JUST HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT WHAT HE HAS SAID......AND ALSO HOW SOME PEOPLE BLEW STUFF OUT OF PROPORTION......
IN REGARDS TO LATINAS NOT GOING TO UNIVERSITY OR UPGRADING THEMSELVES vs PARTYING AND JUST HAVING KIDS....ETC.....I POINTED OUT BEFORE AND I WILL DO IT AGAIN.....HE HAD A VALID POINT....MAYBE IT'S THE WAY HE SAYS THINGS THAT BOTHER PEOPLE....BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE....HE WAS RIGHT.....AS AN EDUCATED MAN, HE'S LOOKING FOR AN EDUCATED GIRL (LET'S SAY) AND HE HAS SUCH A HARD TIME FINDING ONE.....SO I'M SURE IT BOTHERS HIM THAT HIS OWN CULTURE IS NOT FOCUSING MORE ON BETTERING THEMSELVES....THAT'S ALL...
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DulceGalletita wrote: Ok, saw the picture but I don't remember LOL!!! and I didn't really drink eh I think you had your back to me, and didn't move much from your seat. I'll post the Julie's pic when I get home...
At this point I would like to thank those who come to my defence. I hope I will not let you down. I too would say the same for any of you. Now for those who harbour so much hate well... I'll thank you too. For without you I would not take so much joy in dispelling your diatribes and assumptions. I thank you for writing ridiculous statements that invite challenge. Holding a grudge is unhealthy for your mind, spirit, and body (see related thread). -- Edited by neruda at 16:06, 2006-02-27
Which thread are you refering to? (sorry no time to surf through all the threads)... anyone?
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At this point I would like to thank those who come to my defence. I hope I will not let you down. I too would say the same for any of you.
Now for those who harbour so much hate well... I'll thank you too. For without you I would not take so much joy in dispelling your diatribes and assumptions. I thank you for writing ridiculous statements that invite challenge.
Holding a grudge is unhealthy for your mind, spirit, and body (see related thread).
Ok don't know what's the deal with Neruda, but I talked to him for a bit & he totally seemed a fine guy. Spoke well & seem cool. I even find him attractive & was well put together.
Just my two cents. Now lets not think bad about my comment, but I say what I see.
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Marky Mark wrote: Bainaman wrote: DulceGalletita wrote: The microphone guy I remember him Ummmmmmm, Bistor so did you see me He was sitting right behind you!!!! OH HIM!!! The guy staring at DG, rubbing his crotch.... yes, he did notice you!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was sitting next to LAHTI ... LOL!!! Marky your too much
Several people were around lahtina that night... were you on her right hand side? Next to MM?
DulceGalletita wrote: bistor wrote: Yeeees... I was there. Right beside you guys. You can see me in the pic Julie took with the microphone guy (assuming you have that pic). The microphone guy I remember him Ummmmmmm, Bistor so did you see me He saw every single one of us. Very observant, just not very nice!
I agree!! I feel violated!!! Freak!! j/k (or am i) LOL!!!
Bainaman wrote: DulceGalletita wrote: The microphone guy I remember him Ummmmmmm, Bistor so did you see me He was sitting right behind you!!!! OH HIM!!! The guy staring at DG, rubbing his crotch.... yes, he did notice you!!!
Bainaman wrote: DulceGalletita wrote: The microphone guy I remember him Ummmmmmm, Bistor so did you see me He was sitting right behind you!!!! OH HIM!!! The guy staring at DG, rubbing his crotch.... yes, he did notice you!!!
I probably did, but you'll have to describe yourself :) What were you wearing?
DulceGalletita wrote: bistor wrote: Yeeees... I was there. Right beside you guys. You can see me in the pic Julie took with the microphone guy (assuming you have that pic). The microphone guy I remember him Ummmmmmm, Bistor so did you see me He saw every single one of us. Very observant, just not very nice!
Ummmmmmmm, well if you did see me well that was the only time to say hello 'cause I don't go out malooooo
@BAINAMAN: behind me no one was behind me or was there ...