Okay, I don't really know this story, but let me get this straight: with the other head the baby would've grown up healthy.
Having had the other baby (head) removed, now the surviving child is brain damaged? What would've been the risk if they'd grown up with the two heads? Would they have survived? And how bad is the brain damage?
Maybe I should look this up.
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Uh, excuse me but couldn't we consider modern medicine to be playing "God"? You were very much in favour of this baby having the operation, Bainaman. Without the operation the baby had a poor quality of life but at least her brain was healthy. Why didn't the mother let nature take it's course then? If God intended the baby to be born this way, why were they "playing God" and put her under the knife? -- Edited by Lahtina at 00:42, 2005-12-16
There is nothing wrong with medicine helping someone to live a healthier better quality of life..........The key word being LIFE!!!!
Many times God will let things like this happen......as a test of faith.......which I think the mom passed with flying colours.......and also.....for all of us to learn from it as well....
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Uh, excuse me but couldn't we consider modern medicine to be playing "God"? You were very much in favour of this baby having the operation, Bainaman. Without the operation the baby had a poor quality of life but at least her brain was healthy. Why didn't the mother let nature take it's course then? If God intended the baby to be born this way, why were they "playing God" and put her under the knife?
I think that it would be more selfish to not have the baby. Just because you know that the baby is going to be mentally ill isn't reason enough not to have him/her. If the baby will only have a short life I think that we should just let nature take its course, and not try to play God. Who are we to decided who lives, and who dies regardless of the situation.
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I think that it would be more selfish to not have the baby. Just because you know that the baby is going to be mentally ill isn't reason enough not to have him/her. If the baby will only have a short life I think that we should just let nature take its course, and not try to play God. Who are we to decided who lives, and who dies regardless of the situation.
Lahtina wrote: Bainaman wrote: Lahtina wrote: Here's another question for you... Apparently the surviving baby will be brain damaged. With or without the operation the possibility of having a full healthy life was pretty slim. I don't know if the mother knew about her baby's condition during her pregnancy or not but... if you were in the same situation as a parent and you knew about this during the pregnancy, would you chose to have the baby or have an abortion? The mom didn't know....no one knew.... I think I'd choose to have it.....again....I'm very pro life.....no matter what.... Could we consider your decision to have the baby as selfishness? I would view not having the baby as selfish.
Lahtina wrote: Bainaman wrote: The baby was part of identical twins....that's why they new it was a girl.... She gave the dead baby the name "Islam"....after her faith. The mom was strong!!! WoW!!! She held it down with her faith......very inspiring Yes, but could you consider her a girl when she lacked the organs that constitutes what we deem "a girl"? Again.....they figured that she was an identical twin......therefore a girl..... Does it really matter??? Or does the assumption really bother you???
It doesn't bother me at all. I'm just looking at all this from a philosophical/skeptical point of view.
Bainaman wrote: Lahtina wrote: Here's another question for you... Apparently the surviving baby will be brain damaged. With or without the operation the possibility of having a full healthy life was pretty slim. I don't know if the mother knew about her baby's condition during her pregnancy or not but... if you were in the same situation as a parent and you knew about this during the pregnancy, would you chose to have the baby or have an abortion? The mom didn't know....no one knew.... I think I'd choose to have it.....again....I'm very pro life.....no matter what.... Could we consider your decision to have the baby as selfishness?
I would view not having the baby as selfish.
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Bainaman wrote: The baby was part of identical twins....that's why they new it was a girl.... She gave the dead baby the name "Islam"....after her faith. The mom was strong!!! WoW!!! She held it down with her faith......very inspiring Yes, but could you consider her a girl when she lacked the organs that constitutes what we deem "a girl"?
Again.....they figured that she was an identical twin......therefore a girl.....
Does it really matter???
Or does the assumption really bother you???
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Lahtina wrote: Here's another question for you... Apparently the surviving baby will be brain damaged. With or without the operation the possibility of having a full healthy life was pretty slim. I don't know if the mother knew about her baby's condition during her pregnancy or not but... if you were in the same situation as a parent and you knew about this during the pregnancy, would you chose to have the baby or have an abortion? The mom didn't know....no one knew.... I think I'd choose to have it.....again....I'm very pro life.....no matter what....
Could we consider your decision to have the baby as selfishness?
The baby was part of identical twins....that's why they new it was a girl.... She gave the dead baby the name "Islam"....after her faith. The mom was strong!!! WoW!!! She held it down with her faith......very inspiring
Yes, but could you consider her a girl when she lacked the organs that constitutes what we deem "a girl"?
Here's another question for you... Apparently the surviving baby will be brain damaged. With or without the operation the possibility of having a full healthy life was pretty slim. I don't know if the mother knew about her baby's condition during her pregnancy or not but... if you were in the same situation as a parent and you knew about this during the pregnancy, would you chose to have the baby or have an abortion?
The mom didn't know....no one knew....
I think I'd choose to have it.....again....I'm very pro life.....no matter what....
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Apparently the surviving baby will be brain damaged. With or without the operation the possibility of having a full healthy life was pretty slim. I don't know if the mother knew about her baby's condition during her pregnancy or not but... if you were in the same situation as a parent and you knew about this during the pregnancy, would you chose to have the baby or have an abortion?
They just said that before the parasidic baby was buried, "she" was given a name. The parents chose a boy's name despite the baby being a "girl". Question: How could this baby have been a girl if it had no body?
Good point. The baby looked like a girl! I wonder how they realized that!
BTW, i just realized my TLC channel is on channel 34. I was watching something on 44, so that's why i mexed them up!!
angelita dulce wrote: CrazyBeautiful wrote: wat r u guys watching???? wat channel?? CHANNEL 44. It's the TLC channel. 44??? What kind of cable do you have? Or where do you live??? Anyway....it's whatever channel you get TLC on.... I agree with Lahtina....it's the only way....... Sad still for both babies...
I have Rogers cable!! I live in your old area!!!
BTW - The baby just died, the twin that had no body. That's horrible!!
Ok there's commercials now............... what do you people think of this operation.
I can't watch the operation, it's disturbing!! I feel so bad for the babies and the family. As well as the doctors, cause the outcome is all in their hands!
The second head has a fully developed brain......but no body. Well....it has a small spine....but no heart, no lungs, no nothing........but it blinks, and bites and has a totally different personality than the bigger host body....
They're gonna operate now.....
I'll let you know....
I'm sure the normal baby will survive.....I doubt that they'd show this if it ended badly.....but we'll see...
I'll keep you posted....
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