Sadam Hussein is facing a possible death sentence by his own people through the courts a man caught with growing pot faces 2 yrs house arrest. vat a vorld vat a vorld
I got this wacky Idea all of the sudden...........LOL
2 yrs smoking pot w/o getting out of muh place....I wouldn't really call it "house arrest"....
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What is important to find out how everything was possible. It’s too easy to say that it was the Americans and their CIA. Was Chile so fragile a democracy (that second oldest in this hemisphere), so feeble in its sovereignty, that a few millions dollar funneled to the truckers by the CIA was able to topple the government? I don't believe the complete answer lies in blaming outside forces.
I don't think it's the complete answer either but it's a HUGE part of the answer. There is hardcore evidence of the CIA involvement in the military coup. They have in fact admitted to their involvement. Pinochet as I am sure you know always had a hard time even putting a sentence together he was incapable of heading the military coup! Richard Nixon was dead set against another socialist goverment and he did everything in his power to get rid of Allende.
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so much reading and catching up to do, i'm gonna get some pizza. oh and i agree with Daeveed and Neruda, the scrutiny and house arrest that Pinochet is facing must be torture indeed, and quite the evidence of guilt marked in history.
Al menos pasara a la historia como un gran maricon, no como el heroe que muchos querian verlo hasta el final.
En la tumba le escribiran desde Toronto: You suck maricon, y le pondran la foto a la par de la Tatcher por que ella le agradece la informacion de espionage que le regalo' Pinocho en contra de Argentina, vaya militar...
neruda wrote: Chilenita, My comment was in regards to mcsoris's comment. The gist of it was that I realize how low your opinion is of me. Man , is daveed ever jealous. I just have no idea what your problem is and why you choose to express yourself the way you do. Let's say you are Chileno....it is clear that you are well educated...you say some things that make a lot of sense. You wrote about your dad coming to Canada years ago and I will assume it was for political reasons. What I don't get is why you talk DOWN to people the way you do. If you were at the march then it makes no sense to me because those type of Chileans are just not like that. They just aren't!!!!
I think Neruda is all confused, He probably is the descendent of one of those nazis who entered Chile so many years ago, He has mixed feelings but his genes order Him to look down at those people who don't have germanic roots. Go get a DNA test, you could be related to that Terminator guy. Just kidding buddy
The wishing of the simple death of Pinochet would not be just. Too many secrets would die with him. If he is ever convicted (of anything) we will never have a consensus on how to punish him.
What is important to find out how everything was possible. It’s too easy to say that it was the Americans and their CIA. Was Chile so fragile a democracy (that second oldest in this hemisphere), so feeble in its sovereignty, that a few millions dollar funneled to the truckers by the CIA was able to topple the government? I don't believe the complete answer lies in blaming outside forces.
Indeed, Pinochet did have help. The help of his fellow chilenos. The ones working close to him and the ones who were furthest away from him. The ones filled with hate toward their neighbour, the ones who were willfully blind to what was going around them.
The machinations of torture and death were systemic in the social and political structure of Chilean society. From those creating policies in the moneda to those executing the orders on the street with their big black boots, the trail of blood runs long.
Certainly, to convict and or execute Pinochet would be a grand symbolic gesture to all those who dared threaten human rights. It would truly signal the return of a hallmark of democracy - an independent judicial system. That would be a celebration in itself.
But can we be sure it won't happen again? No, the execution of Pinochet would absolve all those who worked closely with him. They would breathe a sigh of relief for there would be little political motivation to investigate their role and prosecute them. We must find out more about this structure (and culture?) of compliance. It wasn't merely "following orders".
Pinochet has many secrets - some of which, I believe, shouldn't follow him to the grave.
NERUDA- I don't understand why you bother to come onto this thread and bash everyone!! We all have different views and expressions. Most of the time we come on to just joke around!! I understand you have your own views on certain topics, but why all the negative replies?? I can tell you that i am a very smart woman, who works hard and goes to night school in order to move up in my career!! So if you want, you can PM, cause i'm not one of those stupid latinas that you think!! Just answer my question, cause maybe i missed something on why you are so negative and rude!!
Did you have a bad day "trying to set things right" today man??
My career allows me to strive for this goal. And I very thankful, I've taken up the challenge even though somedays do seem futile (But not today-today was a good day)
Chilenita, My comment was in regards to mcsoris's comment. The gist of it was that I realize how low your opinion is of me. Man , is daveed ever jealous.
I just have no idea what your problem is and why you choose to express yourself the way you do.
Let's say you are Chileno....it is clear that you are well educated...you say some things that make a lot of sense. You wrote about your dad coming to Canada years ago and I will assume it was for political reasons. What I don't get is why you talk DOWN to people the way you do. If you were at the march then it makes no sense to me because those type of Chileans are just not like that. They just aren't!!!!
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It's the same situation of injustice with crazy men like SADAAM HUSSEIN.... Where was the justice in catching him and giving him a "trial"?? omg that just made me laugh..........it's so pointless!
The damage has been done and no force on hearth can rectify that.....not even by killing these men will the victims ever find peace or UNDERSTANDING of the situation.....
(and people make fun of Fidel? ......hahaha.....pobrecito el Barbudo)
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Chilenita, My comment was in regards to mcsoris's comment. The gist of it was that I realize how low your opinion is of me. Man , is daveed ever jealous.
riiiiight....
Did you have a bad day "trying to set things right" today man??
Have you moved out of your parents' basement yet? Well I guess life seems pretty easy when you're sparking up a spliff. Nothing cures ambition like a good whiff of grass. Not to struggle is to accept the world (and all it injustices) as it is. Some of us have work to do trying to set things right while people like you live in our basements chatting on foros in between wacking off to porn.
do you smoke pot???? if you do...welkome to the club.....
If you don't........
GET THE FAK OUT!!!!!!!!!
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Have you moved out of your parents' basement yet? Well I guess life seems pretty easy when you're sparking up a spliff. Nothing cures ambition like a good whiff of grass. Not to struggle is to accept the world (and all it injustices) as it is. Some of us have work to do trying to set things right while people like you live in our basements chatting on foros in between wacking off to porn.
Well I guess life seems pretty easy when you're sparking up a spliff. Nothing cures ambition like a good whiff of grass.
Not to struggle is to accept the world (and all it injustices) as it is. Some of us have work to do trying to set things right while people like you live in our basements chatting on foros in between wacking off to porn.
That puts me just above flea **** and below pond scum.
Humm forget what I said. I don't know anyone that is part of the Chileans that I asscociate with would be ANYTHING like you. All the guys I know that are involved or have been involved in that particular scene are nice guys.
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Chilenita, I was at that march in front of the consulate.
I have said it in another thread I think.....I just KNOW that we know eachother somehow!! I just know it!!!! You know how it is....I KNOW ALL THE FAMILIES that were at that march. It's the same group of people that are always out for the same reasons!
Can you just answer one question for me......does TORONTO CHILEAN SOCIETY mean anything to you?
PM me if you like....
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Pinochet has been charged with the responsibility of the disappearance of 6 people during his dictatorship. There has been no pronounciation about a bail or provisional freedom, which means, the ex-dictator will spend his 90th birthday in house arrest and with the status of CRIMINAL!!!!
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe Yep his bday is tomorrow....son of a BITCH!!!!
Actually I remember sooooooooooo clearly when he was arrested in London....also around his bday......I went to a "march" at the Chilean consulate with family and friends and some people had sarcastic signs that said happy bday.....pics of him in prison gear....that was fun....
Okay so another reason to get drunk this FRIDAY!!! YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
KARMA KARMA KARMA KARMA......it's a BITCH
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Pinochet has been charged with the responsibility of the disappearance of 6 people during his dictatorship.
There has been no pronounciation about a bail or provisional freedom, which means, the ex-dictator will spend his 90th birthday in house arrest and with the status of CRIMINAL!!!!
I don't believe one single event will completely satisfy his detractors, or for that matter, even all of them together. I don't think anybody who lost a son/daughter to his regime will find complete consolation on him being processed or even incarcerated. But many would at least rest their minds on the fact that he didn't spend a single day free of hassle until his death.
"Éstas son mis últimas palabras, teniendo la certeza de que el sacrificio no será en vano. Tengo la certeza de que, por lo menos, habrá una sanción moral que castigará la felonía, la cobardía y la traición."
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That's right, justice now can be made only up to a certain point.
He is not going to jail even if he is found guilty. The most he'll get is house arrest.
Personally I think justice is being made with every citation to court he gets, with every interrogatory session he has to be in, with every accusation that has been made public, with the charges pressed against his family, with everytime he can't enjoy with his grandchildren, because he has to go see a lawyer or a judge and try to defend himself. Justice is being made with every transcript of his interrogations, where he desperately tries to blame everybody else but him, showing everybody the coward he's always been.
I don't believe one single event will completely satisfy his detractors, or for that matter, even all of them together. I don't think anybody who lost a son/daughter to his regime will find complete consolation on him being processed or even incarcerated. But many would at least rest their minds on the fact that he didn't spend a single day free of hassle until his death.
Chilenita wrote: Probably not Julie! I don't think there will be justice ever...sad but true! What would be "justice" for you in this case??
As Chilenita expressed, what would really be justice in thiscase.
I think at least, the recognition of the facts by those, still alive, that comitted them and the minds behind them. I will not bring back the lifes losts but my help others to go on with their lives.
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Chilenita wrote: Probably not Julie! I don't think there will be justice ever...sad but true! What would be "justice" for you in this case??
Great question Daeveed but it's a complicated answer!! I can't say that I am 100% sure of what I would consider justice!
What would justice be? It's so hard to say I am not sure there is ANYTHING that they could do to him that would "pay back" for all that was done to so many people!!! Don't get me wrong I would take pleasure in seeing him be tortured and killed in fact I could do it with my bare hands but it would be only ending one pathetic life......they took soooooooooooooooooooo many lives. He also could have NEVER done what he did without the help of the American goverment and the CIA.....actually NOTHING would have ever happened in CHILE to begin with if it wasn't for them.....NIXON is dead and nobody will go after the CIA sooooooooooo I don't really know what TRUE JUSTICE would be!!! I can tell you that seeing him rot in jail until he dies would at least be something......at least some kind of justice....
As I think about all of this I can't help but remember that Allende himself said in his last speech "la historia los juzgara".....I guess that is true....
Illusions, dreams, friends and family died in 1973 and nothing can change that...
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Yeahhhh, really. Tax invasion and corruption, as if he cared. Is justice going to be done one day, for those who had suffered and still do, as well for their family so they can finally find some peace and closure.
Probably not Julie! I don't think there will be justice ever...sad but true!
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Pinochet has been placed under house arrest for Tax ivasion and corruption!!! It's all over the radio..... I am thinking if they didn't lock him up and throw away the key for MURDER, TORTURE AND GENOCIDE....then they won't do it now either.....
Yeahhhh, really. Tax invasion and corruption, as if he cared. Is justice going to be done one day, for those who had suffered and still do, as well for their family so they can finally find some peace and closure.
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