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UN AMIGO ME PRESTO UNA PELICULA ENTITULADA " VOCES INOCENTES" IT SPEAKS ABOUT THE SALVADOREAN CIVIL WAR. I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE WAR, EXCEPT FOR WHAT MY UNCLES AND SOME SALVADOREN~O FRIENDS HAVE TOLD ME. THE MOVIE SPEAKS ABOUT THE FMLN AND THE ARMY RECRUTING AND THE BATTLES THAT TOOK PLACE. I KNOW THIS IS A TOUCHY TOPIC , BUT CAN SOMEONE EDUCATE ME ABIT SO I CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE WAR WAS ABOUT.


 Holly, that movie is about real facts.  It's to bad it wasn't made in EL Salvador where some people don't know about it or don't want to know.  I was almost recruited by the army several times, and I was only 13 to 15 years old.  The recruting process was simple: they used to capture young guys and put them into the back of military trucks, then they would train you for a few weeks or months, and voila' : you suddenly were a soldier aways from your family and friends, and trained to killed them under orders if necessary.  Well, I never let them catch me, I remember walking for many blocks pretending I had polio jajaja, those soldiers didn't even suspected I was pulling their legs. On another day my mother basically pull me from the truck and told them I was going to study in the Military School ( which was B.S) but they belived it.


I don't know about the country side in EL Salvador, but I've heard stories of both the army and Guerrilla recruiting young guys.  Well, in Canada 13 years old are still kids; but ,overthere we are kids no more. I remember junior high school friends of mine that were into politics and several were shot by death squads at the tender age of 12 -14.  Reality is sometimes weirder than fiction, rigth !?



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I DID NOT SEE MUCH PERO MIRE LO SUFICIENTE, BUT 1 THING I NEVER FORGET IS WHEN SOME1 PUT A GUN 4 THE FIRTS TIME IN YOUR HEAD, I WAS JUST 5 AND THE DEATH SQUAD WAS LOOKING 4 MY UNCLES I WILL NOT GO IN DETAILS WHY BUT U GUYS CAN IMAGINE, ESTOS PENDEJOS TOCAN LA PUERTE THEY PUT A LITTLE KID 2 ASK 4 MY UNCLES SO WE WOULD OPEN THE DOOR 4 THEN CAUSE BACK IN EL SALVADOR LAS PUERTAS SON DE HIERRO AND 2 BREACK 2 DOWN IS REALLY HARD, LA COSA QUE ONCE THE DOOR WAS OPEN THEY PUT A GUN IN 2 MY MOM AND MY HEAD Y MI ABUELA Y MI TIA THAT SHE IS MENTALY CHALLENGE, BUT THEY DID NOT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT THAT, ME INTERROGABAN DIDIENDOME QUE SI NO LES DESIA WERE MY UNCLES WERE ME HIBAN A MATAR YO LES DIJE QUE NO VIVIAN ALLI, PERO ALLI VIVIAN SOLO QUE HABIAN SALIDO MY MOM GOT SO MAD QUE LE QUITO Y LE TIRO LA PISTALA AL TIPO SHE WAS SO LUCKY QUE NO LE DISPARARON AND SHE TOLD THEM QUE SI NO ERAN HOMBRES QUE A UN NINO LE TENIAN QUE PONER UNA GUN PARA SACARLE LA VERDA AFTER THAT THEY LEFT NOSE SI SE SINTIERON MAL OR IT WAS GOD BUT ESTOY AQUI DE MILAGRO Y MI MAMA TAMBIEN..........

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There used to be a great movie on arch bishop Romero...dammit can't remember the name but it's a great movie

IT'S CALL ROMERO I READ THE BOOK ABOUT HIS LIFE 2 AND IT'S REALLY GOOD.....

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So 10 years of civil war and more than 10,000 people dead for NOTHING.




Sucks not having any Oil.......

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"Voces Inocentes" is a good movie, it does portray the situation the kids had to live at that time. It is true that as soon as they turned 12 they had to go to the military or join the guerrilla. One of my brothers was constantly recruited by the military but we "knew people" and my mom was able to get him out, thank god.
Also the shootings between la guerrilla and los soldados were something that would happen all the time, coming out of your house and see dead bodies was common.
I only saw it once in 89 when the guerrilla had an ofensiva, i used to go to a catholic school where the nuns used to hide guerrilleros, and take care of the wounded ones. I remember how we used to know where they were hidding. Those times were sad. But I think now it's more depressing to see how the people that before were "fighting" for the poor, are now just doing the same, taking advantage of their positions and enjoying corruption at its best.
So 10 years of civil war and more than 10,000 people dead for NOTHING.


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its called "Romero"...i seen it crazy movie.... another good movie is "El Salvador" the story of a journalist que se enamora de una muchacha Salvadoren~a and tries to smuggle her to the US

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THIS IS THE REASON MY FAMILY LEFT EL SALVADOR, my grandfathers farm got taken over by los guerrieros it was bad i mean i lost so many family memembers its sad! I remember driving by and seeing ppl just dead on the side of the road or crosses everywhere so many ppl died it was sad. But civil war is still going on in some countries which is really sad but i havent read much to imput i just know what i remember and what my family tells me.

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Chilenita wrote:

There used to be a great movie on arch bishop Romero...dammit can't remember the name but it's a great movie



yeah, i've seen it, but i can't remember either what it was called....Google it !

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There used to be a great movie on arch bishop Romero...dammit can't remember the name but it's a great movie

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IM NOT SALADOREN~O SO I HAVE NO PERSONAL STORIES. I HAVE AN UNCLE WHO IS EL GENERAL ENCARGADO DE LA EMBAJADA HONDUREN~A IN EL SALVADOR, AND HE TELLS ME THAT PEOPLE HAVE TOLD HIM STORIES OF WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH...ROUGH LIVES.

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Caliche, try this link


http://www.icrc.org/web/spa/sitespa0.nsf/iwpList275/8D74BBE059C2447BC1256DE1005FACF9


 



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UN AMIGO ME PRESTO UNA PELICULA ENTITULADA " VOCES INOCENTES"
IT SPEAKS ABOUT THE SALVADOREAN CIVIL WAR.

I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE WAR, EXCEPT FOR WHAT MY UNCLES AND SOME SALVADOREN~O FRIENDS HAVE TOLD ME. THE MOVIE SPEAKS ABOUT THE FMLN AND THE ARMY RECRUTING AND THE BATTLES THAT TOOK PLACE. I KNOW THIS IS A TOUCHY TOPIC , BUT CAN SOMEONE EDUCATE ME ABIT SO I CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE WAR WAS ABOUT.


I saw the movie like 2 months ago.....very sad....when you see those kids...I don't really know how close it's to the reality but to see those kids on that situation is very sad.




what you saw is reality... or it was. not sure if the situation is still similar....but poverty and need makes you do what you normaly wouldn't. Even if it means letting the powerful take advantage of you.

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I googled FMLN and El Salvador Civil War... some good websites, but what i wanna know are personal stories or stories told by people that lived it.

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HERE ARE SOME BOOKS U COULD READ:


Bitter Grounds
Author(s): Sandra Benitez


LAS 1000 Y UNA HISTORIAS DE LA RADIO VENSEREMOS.


LAS CARCELES CLANDESTINAS: BY NIDIA DIAZ


GUAZAPA:



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UN AMIGO ME PRESTO UNA PELICULA ENTITULADA " VOCES INOCENTES"
IT SPEAKS ABOUT THE SALVADOREAN CIVIL WAR.

I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE WAR, EXCEPT FOR WHAT MY UNCLES AND SOME SALVADOREN~O FRIENDS HAVE TOLD ME. THE MOVIE SPEAKS ABOUT THE FMLN AND THE ARMY RECRUTING AND THE BATTLES THAT TOOK PLACE. I KNOW THIS IS A TOUCHY TOPIC , BUT CAN SOMEONE EDUCATE ME ABIT SO I CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE WAR WAS ABOUT.




I saw the movie like 2 months ago.....very sad....when you see those kids...I don't really know how close it's to the reality but to see those kids on that situation is very sad.

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Google it, and you'll get a lot of info that way too. Like Joker, i also left el salvador with my family at age 9 for the same reasons...

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IF U REALLY WANT 2 KNOW ABOUT THE WAR IN EL SALVADOR, TE RECOMIENDO LEER LIBROS HASERCA DE LO QUE PASO, THAT'S WHAT I DID, YO SALI DE LA EDAD DE 12 DE EL SALVADOR SAVIA LO QUE PASABA BUT I WAS NOT SURE WHAT WERE THE REASONS AND READING ABOUT IT HAS HELP ME ALOT 2 UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY..........

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UN AMIGO ME PRESTO UNA PELICULA ENTITULADA " VOCES INOCENTES"
IT SPEAKS ABOUT THE SALVADOREAN CIVIL WAR.

I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE WAR, EXCEPT FOR WHAT MY UNCLES AND SOME SALVADOREN~O FRIENDS HAVE TOLD ME. THE MOVIE SPEAKS ABOUT THE FMLN AND THE ARMY RECRUTING AND THE BATTLES THAT TOOK PLACE. I KNOW THIS IS A TOUCHY TOPIC , BUT CAN SOMEONE EDUCATE ME ABIT SO I CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE WAR WAS ABOUT.

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