Yo spic !! so ya wanna be like us ?? Den ya betta put yer ass in gear in get yer sad ass together. So ya wanna be black ?? Get sherself in the microwave. Reggaeton ?? Sad ass 'tempt to rip us up spic. stick to yer cumbia and bachata. Kiss my black a$$ wanna be. Jake.
Bueno, a lo que me referia con el "surgimiento del rock en espanol" en Toronto es a nivel de la comunidad hispana, y lo mismo me referia a la misma comunidad en US. No podemos pretender que el rock hispano sea grande en el "american world" eso es imposible. Hablamos del tema pero a nivel de nuestra comunidad.
Como dijo un conocido mas arriba, nosotros los amantes de este genero debemos apoyar los eventos y de esa forma los auspiciadores, empresarios puedan apostar con shows de artistas reconocidos de nuestra latinoamerica como sucedio en anos anteriores con la traida de Fito Paez, Nito, Los Fabulosos..., Aditus, Vilma Palma, Los Pericos, Prisioneros etc.
Yo spic !! so ya wanna be like us ?? Den ya betta put yer ass in gear in get yer sad ass together. So ya wanna be black ?? Get sherself in the microwave.
Reggaeton ?? Sad ass 'tempt to rip us up spic. stick to yer cumbia and bachata.
The latino youth in the US and The tdot will most likely feel the hiphop/reggaeton urban taste you know what i mean? since they closely relate . Rock en espanol naaaa, I dont see that blowing up here in the American world as much as i see reggaeton. I think rock en espanol does better in the rest of the latin world argentina mexico chile , oh yeah and Spain my cusins love that s** there
Jokerxv1, yeah, nobody had got a good point, like the one you just showed us. Rock en español is huge in the latin world, we understand it may not blow up here in the american world, and this is not because of reggaeton but because of English rock, it is huge all over the world, have you seen how many rock concerts Toronto does a year? Well people all over the world love rock music, they fill stadiums to see rock bands, and that is exactly what happends in the latin world, people there love rock music so much that they want it in their own language to feel a better connection with this kind of music, and they follow their spanish stars. So no..... I don't think rock music or spanish rock will die at least any time soon. Reggaeton music is relatively new, rock music has been around for many many decades and has proven a great success of survival.As long as there is rock in any language, spanish rock will be there and I think that if it wasn't for so many artists that a lot of rock musicians love and admire like "Bob Marley or The Police who at times were call (white reggae)", reggaeton music would not exist, knowing that reggae music and rock music have been good brothers in the history of music.
Now if you don't like rock music that is just your personal opinion but remember you are not alone in this world.
The latino youth in the US and The tdot will most likely feel the hiphop/reggaeton urban taste you know what i mean? since they closely relate . Rock en espanol naaaa, I dont see that blowing up here in the American world as much as i see reggaeton. I think rock en espanol does better in the rest of the latin world argentina mexico chile , oh yeah and Spain my cusins love that s** there
El rock esta comprobado que es universal. No hay limites de idioma, raza ni mucho menos estilos. Hay cantidad de estilos dentro del rock, para todos los gustos. Entiendo que siempre hay discrepancias entre rockeros lo cual es gratificante porque da pie a cuestionarse a si mismo y por consiguiente llegar al estilo musical de preferencia. Aun recuerdo mis tiempos de "Heavy" odiando todo lo comercial y algo que se le parezca, ahora ando metido de cabeza en todo genero del rock, con mente abierta y disfrutandolo.
Apoyemos el movimiento de Rock en espanol y sigamos el ejepmplo que de a poco este genero se ha incrementado en los US. Claro esta que alla son millones de hispanos, eso es otro factor en contra para los rockeros torontianos, la comunidad es pequena aun, y de ahi que el movimiento no tenga el respaldo que se gustaria. En fin, son muchas razones por las cuales cuesta levantar al movimiento, pero se puede...apoyemos.
Apenas pueda me compro otra vez el bajo y el amplificador
Mientras america latina continue exportando, entre otras cosas, gente que le guste el rock en español, el genero va a seguir vivo en toronto.
Tal vez no como una de las mecas del rock en español, sino como una ciudad con identidad propia, donde los talentos de todos los paises se mezclan, y le dan un gusto especial a este experimento muy divertido de razas y naciones llamado toronto.
My point is that I don't think I need to listen to more music and I also know for a fact that Rancid was not even one of the first bands to start the whole melodic punk sound. That's my point. Okay
Ronette wrote: I'm sorry but you can't compare Green Day to Simple Plan. You just can't compare! Green Day's first album Dookie was "the first" and then these other bands that are coming out today like Simple Plan, Blink 182 and Good Charlotte are mediocre copycats. Not even copycats they are not even copying it right. Even to this day Green Day continues to amaze me with the innovation of their music. Simple Plan and the rest of them their music is so repetitive. Simple Plan is a very good example of a repetitive band. First of all I wanna say that I don't want to be confrontational, and I am not trying to attack you (i say this cause sometimes my posts come off as an attack, but they're not) I really don't know what do you mean by Dookie being "the first". The first of what? If you mean Green Day's first, then you might be right, but if you mean it was the first album that started a whole new movement, I can't agree with you. I don't consider them to be a bad band, I just don't like their music. I'd rather listen to his brother's band (Rancid), which in my opinion were the mentors of Green day, and they for sure were one of the first bands to come up with the whole California Melodic Punk sort of music. Everything I've heard from Green Day I've heard before, that's why I don't consider them to be "the first" of anything. Maybe you should listen to some more music.
I listen to enough music thank you very much. Rancid was not the first to start the whole California Melodic Punk movement it was groups like Operation Ivy and Bad Religion. Also, please note punk rock music is my forte. Personally I perfer the NEW YORK punk sound like the kings themselves The Ramones, Johnny Thunder and The Heartbreakers, Richard Hell and The Voidoids. There were other bands from New York that influenced many Television, Blondie, Talking Heads and my favorite band at the Moment The Velvet Underground. The collaboration of Lou Reed, John Cale and Nico made the best music. It's out of this world.
Considero tambien de importancia el hecho de que bandas de rock no latinas existen hasta por las puras en el circuito de TO y muy buenas. Tal vez esto sea muy influyente tambien para que los latinos nos sintamos un poco cortos. Aun con un amigo estamos a la espera de contactos para hacer un poco de jamming de ROCKAS (Rock Castellano) pero la mayoria de rptas provienen de no latinos. Asi que si alguien 'ta interesado pase la vox!
Deberias encontrarte con nosotros en el proximo "barbeque your spanish" nos encontramos el sabado pasado tres bandas de rock en español en la casa de Alejandro integrante de gardenias e hicimos JAM hasta casi como la 1:30 AM hasta que nos hecharon por tanto ruido, fue super divertido. Gardenias rocks!!!!!!
Considero tambien de importancia el hecho de que bandas de rock no latinas existen hasta por las puras en el circuito de TO y muy buenas. Tal vez esto sea muy influyente tambien para que los latinos nos sintamos un poco cortos.
Aun con un amigo estamos a la espera de contactos para hacer un poco de jamming de ROCKAS (Rock Castellano) pero la mayoria de rptas provienen de no latinos. Asi que si alguien 'ta interesado pase la vox!
I'm sorry but you can't compare Green Day to Simple Plan. You just can't compare! Green Day's first album Dookie was "the first" and then these other bands that are coming out today like Simple Plan, Blink 182 and Good Charlotte are mediocre copycats. Not even copycats they are not even copying it right. Even to this day Green Day continues to amaze me with the innovation of their music. Simple Plan and the rest of them their music is so repetitive. Simple Plan is a very good example of a repetitive band.
First of all I wanna say that I don't want to be confrontational, and I am not trying to attack you (i say this cause sometimes my posts come off as an attack, but they're not)
I really don't know what do you mean by Dookie being "the first". The first of what?
If you mean Green Day's first, then you might be right, but if you mean it was the first album that started a whole new movement, I can't agree with you.
I don't consider them to be a bad band, I just don't like their music. I'd rather listen to his brother's band (Rancid), which in my opinion were the mentors of Green day, and they for sure were one of the first bands to come up with the whole California Melodic Punk sort of music.
Everything I've heard from Green Day I've heard before, that's why I don't consider them to be "the first" of anything. Maybe you should listen to some more music.
Maully, for your information I have listened to rock music in other languages. I do like French and German rock and I love Korean rock music. I'm not trying to downplay the language in general. It's just I can't really listen to Rock music en Espanol. It's just something that I feel. I haven't heard any rock music in Spanish that makes me say "Gee, that sounds pretty awesome". I'm sorry I just haven't. Maybe you can suggest a band? Now, Robert Smith from The Cure. Not only was he cool but music from The Cure was very innovative. I love Robert Smith.
I think it's hard to suggest a band, we all have different tastes, the kind of music I like, maybe is the music you don't like, I just don't see what's the problem with spanish if you like rock music in other different languages, is it the language ? or the way we spanish people make music? which shoulden't have anything to do with the language.
If you like The Cure for example I could suggest you to listen to Soda Stereo, a band from the 80's that was strongly influenced by The Cure. In my concept The Cure was the band that started all this movement but Soda Stereo's members were way better musicians than The Cure's, if you compare the nice guitar solos from robert smith with the solos from soda's guitar player, you'll see who could played the guitar better, also compare the drummers and the bass players, Soda is more complex in this aspect but Cure was the band with the great ideas that influenced so many.
Carlos Santana, can you tell a difference when his music is sang in English or Spanish ?
Do you think his music sounds better in English?
If you like Police, maybe you can listen to "Mana" from mexico or "Distrito Especial" from Colombia.
If you like Led Zeppeling maybe you can listen to Julio Iglesias Unplugged.......Just Kidding. Actually I don't know many heavy spanish bands, Maybe Daeeved or Mario can suggest some. Maybe you can listen to Kraken.... or Luzbel..... or perhaps Baron Rojo....
If you like Pink Floyd.... you can listen to Virus.....not that they bit them but they can sound alike...
Anyways if you don't like spanish rock no blame, we all have different tastes like I said but maybe you'll find something you'd like. I think we have great latin musicians, some times I come to english concerts and remember the great latin concerts I've been to. Wish I was there......
If you like Green Day (whom I consider it to be in the same bag with simple plan and all that crap, but it's fine) you should check: BBS Paranoicos Los Miserables Molotov Dos Minutos
I'm sorry but you can't compare Green Day to Simple Plan. You just can't compare! Green Day's first album Dookie was "the first" and then these other bands that are coming out today like Simple Plan, Blink 182 and Good Charlotte are mediocre copycats. Not even copycats they are not even copying it right. Even to this day Green Day continues to amaze me with the innovation of their music. Simple Plan and the rest of them their music is so repetitive. Simple Plan is a very good example of a repetitive band.
Miel wrote: Daeveed do u know if today is going to be ROck Cafe at Momentos???,. I think is every thrusday,.am I right??? I don't think it's happening anymore. But there's two Rock Your Spanish nights coming on Aug 20 at the Smiling Buddha bar and Sept 10 I don't know where
ohh que pena,..nunca fui,.. ok but i m gonna make a note in my agenda for down Agust 20,. I really want to go ,.,. thanks for the info,.
Daeveed do u know if today is going to be ROck Cafe at Momentos???,. I think is every thrusday,.am I right???
I don't think it's happening anymore. But there's two Rock Your Spanish nights coming on Aug 20 at the Smiling Buddha bar and Sept 10 I don't know where
If you like Green Day (whom I consider it to be in the same bag with simple plan and all that crap, but it's fine) you should check: BBS Paranoicos Los Miserables Molotov Dos Minutos
Daeveed do u know if today is going to be ROck Cafe at Momentos???,. I think is every thrusday,.am I right???
Maully, for your information I have listened to rock music in other languages. I do like French and German rock and I love Korean rock music. I'm not trying to downplay the language in general. It's just I can't really listen to Rock music en Espanol. It's just something that I feel. I haven't heard any rock music in Spanish that makes me say "Gee, that sounds pretty awesome". I'm sorry I just haven't. Maybe you can suggest a band? Now, Robert Smith from The Cure. Not only was he cool but music from The Cure was very innovative. I love Robert Smith.
I'm sorry I like my rock in English. Spanish rock to me seems very popish. I find rock music in Spanish seems too manufactured. In other words "Fake". It just doesn't seem right. Something is missing that I can't bare to listen to Rock en Espanol. I can't tolerate it. I'm also quite aware lately English rock music has become very poppy with idiotic bands like Simple Plan, All-American Rejects and Maroon Five. At the same time I can't say that’s true because we still have Green Day and other bands still remaining with the true rock essence like The Foo Fighters and our own Canadian band Sloan (which kick ass). The rest of the stuff out there is pretty much garbage.-- Edited by Ronette at 17:53, 2005-07-27
Ni el Rock, ni la musica en general son dueñas de una lengua, la musica es y sera siempre lo mas importante, no importa en que lengua, el idioma es solamente un instrumento para que puedas comunicar tus ideas mas facilmente a tu publico, pero la musica es siempre la misma. Entonces porque el rock en ingles tiene que ser el mejor, sera acaso porque el ingles es una de las lenguas mas importantes en todo el mundo ? He escuchado rock en muchos idiomas, Frances, Rumano, Ruso, Español, Koreano, Portugues, Aleman,etc. y he llegado a la conclusion de que el rock en ingles no es ni el unico ni el mejor y que no es el idioma el que hace la buena musica, sino la buena musica misma la que hace que en nuestro propio idioma el rock se escuche mejor.
Maybe you're right Miel. Maybe I'm not giving rock en Espanol a chance. You mentioned a band called Molotov. The name sounds kind of interesting. Molotov I'll check into them. The name just seems to roll off the tongue.
Ronette wrote: I'm sorry I like my rock in English. Spanish rock to me seems very popish. I find rock music in Spanish seems too manufactured. In other words "Fake". It just doesn't seem right. Something is missing that I can't bare to listen to Rock en Espanol. I can't tolerate it. I'm also quite aware lately English rock music has become very poppy with idiotic bands like Simple Plan, All-American Rejects and Maroon Five. At the same time I can't say that’s true because we still have Green Day and other bands still remaining with the true rock essence like The Foo Fighters and our own Canadian band Sloan (which kick ass). The rest of the stuff out there is pretty much garbage.-- Edited by Ronette at 17:53, 2005-07-27
Honestamente no tengo mucho conocimiento del rock en ingles,. a mas de Bon Jovi,.o Metallica,. de cualqueir manera,. tu puedes encontrar diferentes tipos de rock en español,.desde soda estero, enanitos verdes , mana,. hasta rata blanca ,. molotov,. y mas que varian en estilo,. a lo mejor no haz escuchado lo suficiente ,. pero cada cual tiene sus gustos,. I love el rock en español,.
I'm sorry I like my rock in English. Spanish rock to me seems very popish. I find rock music in Spanish seems too manufactured. In other words "Fake". It just doesn't seem right. Something is missing that I can't bare to listen to Rock en Espanol. I can't tolerate it. I'm also quite aware lately English rock music has become very poppy with idiotic bands like Simple Plan, All-American Rejects and Maroon Five. At the same time I can't say that’s true because we still have Green Day and other bands still remaining with the true rock essence like The Foo Fighters and our own Canadian band Sloan (which kick ass). The rest of the stuff out there is pretty much garbage.
Hola Querido Amigo!!! El rock en español no ha muerto!!!! Si deseas probar un poco del rock latino en la ciudad, asiste a Momentos todos los Jueves y te sorprenderas de este genero que esta comenzando a ganar fuerza en el medio!!! Todo lo que se necesita es apoyo de los rockeros como tu!!! Rock Cafe @ Momentos todos los Jueves & Rock your Spanish @ Smiling Buddah Julio 16!!!!!! Ven y disfruta del maravilloso y eterno Rock en Español!!!!! Rocker!
Gracias amigo por la invitacion para los jueves, pero el problema es que trabajo esa noche y me lo tendre' que perder. SI fuera viernes o sabado seria mucho mejor, bueno, esperaremos a ver que pasa. LO bueno es que por lo menos tienen un dia de rock, se que me divertiria mucho al asistir, ojala un dia de estos tome una vacacion para ir.
Definitivamente lo que se necesita es de alguna persona con un poco de iniciativa y no solo pensando en $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ para dar un tan necesitado empujon al Rock hispano. Todos los managers o propietarios de los clubes latinos solo ponen rock los miercoles o jueves para rellenar los huecos de la semana cuando nadie sale. Si es posible tener lugares donde se pueda escuchar rock un sabado sin perdidas, Orale! fue un buen ejemplo de esto. (Que lastima que Orale ya no Existe). Esperemos que alguien se anime a abrir algun lugar dedicado solo al rock y no solo esas "probaditas" de Momentos.
El rock en español no ha muerto!!!! Si deseas probar un poco del rock latino en la ciudad, asiste a Momentos todos los Jueves y te sorprenderas de este genero que esta comenzando a ganar fuerza en el medio!!! Todo lo que se necesita es apoyo de los rockeros como tu!!!
Rock Cafe @ Momentos todos los Jueves & Rock your Spanish @ Smiling Buddah Julio 16!!!!!!
Ven y disfruta del maravilloso y eterno Rock en Español!!!!!
El color es lo de menos, recorda que Jimmy HEndrix era negro y es considerado uno de los mejores guitarristas de todos los tiempos. Ademas' el rock tiene su origen en el Blues y mas musica de origen afro-americano, solo ponle atencion a la musica de LEd Zeppelin y escucharas las influencias del blues. Asi mismo,la musica de Elvis es claramente un segumiento del Blues.
Otra contribucion africana se encuentra en el JAzz y mucha musica mas.
El rock esta comprobado que es universal. No hay limites de idioma, raza ni mucho menos estilos. Hay cantidad de estilos dentro del rock, para todos los gustos. Entiendo que siempre hay discrepancias entre rockeros lo cual es gratificante porque da pie a cuestionarse a si mismo y por consiguiente llegar al estilo musical de preferencia. Aun recuerdo mis tiempos de "Heavy" odiando todo lo comercial y algo que se le parezca, ahora ando metido de cabeza en todo genero del rock, con mente abierta y disfrutandolo.
thanks for the info,.
Definitivamente lo que se necesita es de alguna persona con un poco de iniciativa y no solo pensando en $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ para dar un tan necesitado empujon al Rock hispano. Todos los managers o propietarios de los clubes latinos solo ponen rock los miercoles o jueves para rellenar los huecos de la semana cuando nadie sale. Si es posible tener lugares donde se pueda escuchar rock un sabado sin perdidas, Orale! fue un buen ejemplo de esto. (Que lastima que Orale ya no Existe). Esperemos que alguien se anime a abrir algun lugar dedicado solo al rock y no solo esas "probaditas" de Momentos.
