abortion.!!Give me ur opinion about it..

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

abortion.!!Give me ur opinion about it..

Chilenita · Comandante

LGigolo wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

Men have the choice to walk away though right? If they don't want to have anything to do with a baby they just walk away like we see MUCH TOO OFTEN in this little culture of ours.

Not really - at least not here in Canada. That's why there are lawyers and a court system to make sure daddys pay up. They do a shi tty job at it; but supposedly they were working on improving and trying to enforce payment of child support - no clue how much improved it is now.

P.S.: I used to be pro-life; but I have come to realize that not everything you do has to be based on your religion. One has to have the option whether or not to have that child. And yeppers, I like to pick and choose which religious rules I want to follow and when - I am pro-choice when it comes to following the ten commandments!

LMAO

Yeah so is every catholic

LGigolo · Comandante

:AMEN:

LGigolo · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

Men have the choice to walk away though right? If they don't want to have anything to do with a baby they just walk away like we see MUCH TOO OFTEN in this little culture of ours.

Not really - at least not here in Canada. That's why there are lawyers and a court system to make sure daddys pay up. They do a shi tty job at it; but supposedly they were working on improving and trying to enforce payment of child support - no clue how much improved it is now.

P.S.: I used to be pro-life; but I have come to realize that not everything you do has to be based on your religion. One has to have the option whether or not to have that child. And yeppers, I like to pick and choose which religious rules I want to follow and when - I am pro-choice when it comes to following the ten commandments! aww

Chilenita · Comandante

don_plyero wrote:

ya i did put that there! so what

everything i said wasnt on religion,it was on my personal view

WAS it for a reason? Did you mention your catholic retreat on an abortion post for a reason or no?

YOu asked me what religion has to do with anything but it was on YOUR post. weirdface

don_plyero · Guru

ya i did put that there! so what

everything i said wasnt on religion,it was on my personal view

Chilenita · Comandante

don_plyero wrote:

if you wanna be stupid and closedminded the ...ok i respect your choice

so you agree on killing a innocent life just cause you feel you arent ready to have him/her ?

VERGIN, who da F U K u think u are? yes im very religious but this has nothing to do with religion, im giving you my opinion and you should just respect that even if u dont agree

I am close minded - HA what a joke!

Anyhow darling YOU mentioned religion in your post here I'll copy and paste it for ya

wow what a topic! and im about to leave to NYC for a catholic retiro and i will be talking about abortions and PRO LIFE not PRO CHOICE which im against 100%

it was your opening line call me crazy in thinking it had something to do with your post and your view on abortion. Are you saying you just put it in there for no reason at all weirdface

So then my question was simple. Are you a virgin? Usually catholics are all anti abortion yet they don't follow other catholic rules. They like to pick and choose and I am just asking if you are one of those.

Men have the choice to walk away though right? If they don't want to have anything to do with a baby they just walk away like we see MUCH TOO OFTEN in this little culture of ours. hmm

don_plyero · Guru

if you wanna be stupid and closedminded the ...ok i respect your choice

so you agree on killing a innocent life just cause you feel you arent ready to have him/her hmm

?

VERGIN

, who da F U K u think u are? yes im very religious but this has nothing to do with religion, im giving you my opinion and you should just respect that even if u dont agree

Chilenita · Comandante

Gringa Lahtina wrote:

Chilenita wrote:
REAL GOD NOT FORO GOD = rgnfg

TOTALLY agree WOMENS CHOICE

For discussion purposes, it would totally help if you gave reasons for your choice.

Bah there are too many reasons. I believe in a women's right to choose. I think that if a woman or teen gets pregnant and feels like she can't have that child or give that child a proper life than it should be her choice to have it or not. HOLY JEBUS like I said there are just tooooo many reasons to list.

@DON PLYERO - your videos are dumb. You are a man and so of course it doesn't bother you to say a women should NOT have a choice. RELIGION is that your reason. So I take it you are a virgin right? If you are a bible thumper anti abortion dude than you must also not believe in pre marital sex right??

BTW I think you should take down your videos. They are way too graphic and also stupid biggrin

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

Chilenita wrote:
REAL GOD NOT FORO GOD = rgnfg

TOTALLY agree WOMENS CHOICE

For discussion purposes, it would totally help if you gave reasons for your choice.

don_plyero · Guru

don_plyero · Guru

wow what a topic! and im about to leave to NYC for a catholic retiro and i will be talking about abortions and PRO LIFE not PRO CHOICE which im against 100%

i know that a babys are tough to have, but no baby has to right to have their life taken, doesnt matter if the women was raped or wasnt ready

this of life this way > HOW WOULD U FEEL IF YOUR MOM WASNT READY 4 U, AND THOUGHT ABOUT KILLING UR LIFE confused

this about it!

i respect your choices on abortion but as long as alive i will fight for PRO LIFE and the movment against abortions

HERES SOME VIDEOS ON ABORTIONS: hope you enjoy it

Danny_Cordova · Guru

interesting topic and i will give my opinion cause i once had a close call before

If i truely aint ready spiritually mentaly emotionally and economically then i will agree with the idea of it....but thats just from my part...she will have the final say at the end.....

i know alot of women r very sensitive when it comes to guys agreeing with the idea of aborting....but from a guys perspective and looking out for his side...it comes to a "whats best for me" type of thing.....likewise for the women too...

i highley disagree with the idea of "just because i made the mistake i have to face the music" .....No estoy de acuerdo en eso para nada...especially nowadays in modern society were we have a million ways to prevent things....sometimes it aint even anyones fault.....if the condom broke for whatever reason....are they both to blame? no....we cant control certain things...

but we can control things that will play an effect in our long term lives...again depending on how ready we feel and if we are economocally well to support the child....

i know friends and people in my own family who got pregnant when they were 16 or the guys when they became fathers at 17.....I remember them saying "i will take full responsbility for this even tho i aint ready it will make me stronger"

10 years now....i look at them and le verdad me da pena...they r more backwords in life....suffered so much couldnt finish highschool all their goals and ambitions pretty much went down the drain....i sooo feel like telling them u guys should have thought twice before you made your decision ....

i know certain people have stayed on a straight path like Miss A said^^^ it made her more mature and pretty much a soldier if we can call it that way....

but other people dont have the same mental capability to be ready for all those responsabilties......its not their faults....it could be many other reasons...like their economic situtations in life....maybe they dont get enough support or help....

my cousin in ecuador got pregnant when she was 16.....the baby father took off went to NY parents disowned her...shes my age now and her live is a mess....i feel like helping her in someway pero que puedo hacer...if she lived in a country like this....i would almost guarantee that she would have had an abortion.....

i dont blame young girls for having an abortion here....if its for the best for them in the long term....why not? if they are not ready to bring a child to the world yet why put the the baby through hell?..

the only thing that would change my idea in this situation would be if me and the girl were dating for a long time and saw eachother in the long run living together....and most importantly if we both luved eachother...then yes what better way to start a family and raise a child....

unfurtunetly nowadays that doesnt happen often.....i find it hard and unfair for a child to be raised without having a mother+fater figuer in their lives...who are together to rasie him/her the right way...

-- Edited by Danny_Cordova at 16:41, 2007-09-11

Chilenita · Comandante

Miss_Argentina wrote:

El Duro wrote:

I think it wrong one does not have the right to kill a child or anyone...

even if she has be raped cause u know what that child could be president, a great lawyer, doctor, politician, and so on and so on.. plus it's not something GOD (RGNFG) hates

K, someone fill me in, what the heck is RGNFG

Again, I am pro choice ..... women should have the right to do whatever they want to their bodies. No one has a say but them.

REAL GOD NOT FORO GOD = rgnfg

TOTALLY agree WOMENS CHOICE

Miss_Argentina · Guru

El Duro wrote:

I think it wrong one does not have the right to kill a child or anyone...

even if she has be raped cause u know what that child could be president, a great lawyer, doctor, politician, and so on and so on.. plus it's not something GOD (RGNFG) hates

So, your telling me (for example) if Paul Bernardo raped your wife or girlfriend, you would keep the baby although you wife was violated, and taken advantage of just because its wrong to take a life? I disagree. Fully.

Miss_Argentina · Guru

El Duro wrote:

I think it wrong one does not have the right to kill a child or anyone...

even if she has be raped cause u know what that child could be president, a great lawyer, doctor, politician, and so on and so on.. plus it's not something GOD (RGNFG) hates

K, someone fill me in, what the heck is RGNFG confused

Again, I am pro choice ..... women should have the right to do whatever they want to their bodies. No one has a say but them.

Chilenita · Comandante

El Duro wrote:

I think it wrong one does not have the right to kill a child or anyone...

even if she has be raped cause u know what that child could be president, a great lawyer, doctor, politician, and so on and so on.. plus it's not something GOD (RGNFG) hates

So if the baby was destined to be a homosexual we could kill it cuz GOD hates them hmm

GOD SMOD...religion - pfffft....don't get me started on how hypocritical it all is

-- Edited by Chilenita at 16:20, 2007-09-11

El Duro · Foro Master

I think it wrong one does not have the right to kill a child or anyone...

even if she has be raped cause u know what that child could be president, a great lawyer, doctor, politician, and so on and so on.. plus it's not something GOD (RGNFG) hates

Chilenita · Comandante

Miss_Argentina wrote:

Yea that kills me when people are such "Radicals"

I dont get it you know... A woman's body is her own and no one elses, I guess the "dad" has a say in the abortion thing or not, but other then that, who is everyone else to interfere with someone's life? The only person with the responsibility of carrying the baby is the mother, and it would also be her responsibility to make the decsion of getting rid of it or not.

I dunno, tough topic.

I think it's totally the women's choice all the way.

Gringa Lahtina · Guru

Miss_Argentina wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

B.U.T.T again due to foro sucking a s s big time!

New members anything you would like to add?

GINOLATINO?

D416?

MISS ARG?

anyone??

I didn't have time to read the whole thread but here's my opinion on it.
I am all for abortion.

BUT ONLY FOR GOOD REASONS.

For example: if I were to be raped. There is no way I would keep that baby.

I don't think that it would be fair to me to have to have a child when I didn't have a choice to make it.

So... you're saying that a LIFE conceived from a sexual act where an unwilling party was involved has less value than one conceived from a sexual act where there were two (possibly more ) consenting parties?

Why does rapped mother get to decide if she wants to bring the pregnancy to term or not and the sluttyish one doesn't? Just because they should face the responsibilities of their actions? BS! Sex has long, LOOOOONG ago stopped being a means of procreation alone and has more of a "recreational" appeal to it (it might have always been this but whatever).

Almost all of our human acts can/do/will result in accidents. Do we have the right to try to repair them? Yes.

I'm still pro-choice and will always be pro-choice but I have to insist, above all, I'm pro birth control and pro sexual-education.

HOWEVER, if you made the choice to "tango" then, well I think that's a different story. NO, NO, NO! It's the same story, there's was just a slight variation on how you got there.

Ok, I am not going to read the rest.

There are so many reasons why abortion is ok, and so many of why it is wrong.

It is wrong, when it is used as a form of birth control. But sometimes we don't have much of a choice.

I personally have never had an abortion. I got pregnant really young too (18), and everyone would say to me "oh, just have an abortion" but I felt that I needed to take responsibilty for my actions, and I did, and today I have a beautiful 9 year old son, who I love with all of my heart.

Abortion would have been easy, and fast, but now I look at my son, and realize that nothing on this earth has ever made me as happy as he does every single day.

From school drawings, to daily hugs, kids are the best thing that could ever happen to a person. (If they are ready)

Miss_Argentina · Guru

Yea that kills me when people are such "Radicals"

I dont get it you know... A woman's body is her own and no one elses, I guess the "dad" has a say in the abortion thing or not, but other then that, who is everyone else to interfere with someone's life? The only person with the responsibility of carrying the baby is the mother, and it would also be her responsibility to make the decsion of getting rid of it or not.

I dunno, tough topic.

Chilenita · Comandante

Miss_Argentina wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

B.U.T.T again due to foro sucking a s s big time!

New members anything you would like to add?

GINOLATINO?

D416?

MISS ARG?

anyone??

I didn't have time to read the whole thread but here's my opinion on it.
I am all for abortion.

BUT ONLY FOR GOOD REASONS.

For example: if I were to be raped. There is no way I would keep that baby.

I don't think that it would be fair to me to have to have a child when I didn't have a choice to make it.

HOWEVER, if you made the choice to "tango" then, well I think that's a different story.

There are so many reasons why abortion is ok, and so many of why it is wrong.

It is wrong, when it is used as a form of birth control. But sometimes we don't have much of a choice.

I personally have never had an abortion. I got pregnant really young too (18), and everyone would say to me "oh, just have an abortion" but I felt that I needed to take responsibilty for my actions, and I did, and today I have a beautiful 9 year old son, who I love with all of my heart.

Abortion would have been easy, and fast, but now I look at my son, and realize that nothing on this earth has ever made me as happy as he does every single day.

From school drawings, to daily hugs, kids are the best thing that could ever happen to a person. (If they are ready)

Interesting. I agree on most points.

The other day I was driving by Don Mills and Eg and all these people had HUGE pics of like dead fetus and what not with big signs saying "MURDER" and guess what THEY WERE ALL MEN - pFFFFFFFFT whatever!! I can't stand extreme wierdos.

Danny_Cordova · Guru

Chilenita wrote:

B.U.T.T again due to foro sucking a s s big time!

New members anything you would like to add?

GINOLATINO?

D416?

MISS ARG?

anyone??

since when was i new

Miss_Argentina · Guru

Chilenita wrote:

B.U.T.T again due to foro sucking a s s big time!

New members anything you would like to add?

GINOLATINO?

D416?

MISS ARG?

anyone??

I didn't have time to read the whole thread but here's my opinion on it.
I am all for abortion.

BUT ONLY FOR GOOD REASONS.

For example: if I were to be raped. There is no way I would keep that baby.

I don't think that it would be fair to me to have to have a child when I didn't have a choice to make it.

HOWEVER, if you made the choice to "tango" then, well I think that's a different story.

There are so many reasons why abortion is ok, and so many of why it is wrong.

It is wrong, when it is used as a form of birth control. But sometimes we don't have much of a choice.

I personally have never had an abortion. I got pregnant really young too (18), and everyone would say to me "oh, just have an abortion" but I felt that I needed to take responsibilty for my actions, and I did, and today I have a beautiful 9 year old son, who I love with all of my heart.

Abortion would have been easy, and fast, but now I look at my son, and realize that nothing on this earth has ever made me as happy as he does every single day.

From school drawings, to daily hugs, kids are the best thing that could ever happen to a person. biggrin

(If they are ready)

Chilenita · Comandante

B.U.T.T again due to foro sucking a s s big time!

New members anything you would like to add?

GINOLATINO?

D416?

MISS ARG?

anyone??

bistor · Guru

Why do some of you think a phoetus is any more "alive" than your liver?

Saying abortion is equivalent to murder misses the point.

Cheeky · Regular Plus

I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT!!! YOU SHOULDN'T BE HAVING SEX IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE POSSIBLE REPRUCISSIONS

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

I am neither for it or against it as long as the decision made was well thought out.
Keeping it or losing it is a very big decision to make, and the choice made in the end should be respected even if you are against it.

Lahtina · Foro Master

Like I said before, I'm pro-choice. I'm pro birth control and I'm pro responsible and loving parenting. I've seen too many kids who grow up practically abandoned. And nevermind the poorer kiddos - the ones that need to be sponsored. A lot of rich kids grow up with hardly any love and care. A lot of toys, yes but no love.

A lot of women only have their unwanted babies because of all the ethical dilemmas involved but let me tell you they forget all about ethics when it comes to raising the child and apparently so does everyone else who is pro-life.

DulceGalletita · Foro Master

Well, personally I'm against it ... I understand we all have the right to make the choice on whatever we do with our bodies but when your pregnant regardless you situations you now have another body within you and who will fight for their right to LIVE ....

I don't judge anyone that takes this route as I am not anyone to judge but that does not mean agree with it on a personal level ....

So all in all I am PRO-LIFE!

Chilenita · Comandante

B.U.T.T

Well since we have NO new topics I figure I would bring up some oldies..perhaps some new members would like to give an opinion.

chica wow · Guru

Girl wrote:

Hi guys.!! i'm a new member of this foro... and i will like to know everybodys opion about this topic.

Here is my opnion: Since we are in the year 2005 women have more rights. Regardless of how I feel about abortion at the end is your decision...if you feel that you are not ready, you will learn to be ready and you will love having somebody looking up to you and love you no matter what..if anyone ever had to make the decision to abort I suggest that you really think about it because it is something that you'll carry for the rest of your life.

Don't think about now think about the future and how it will affect you, if you think that you are alone, you are not...in a country like this there are many resources for women...nobody will jugde you...

Daeveed · Foro Master

Lahtina wrote:

I am totally pro-choice.

same here.

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

I don't agree with abortion, but that doesn't mean I am against it, I think that everybody has a choice, and different opinions, but sometimes things happen, y pues hay veces las mujers les pasan cosas, por ejemplo que pasaria si a una mujer la violan y queda embarazada, then what happens? what happens if she decides to have an abortion? Is she right or is she wrong?

Chilenita · Comandante

Caliche wrote:

OK THEN IM AGAINST THAT.... NOONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL AN UNBORN CHILD.... THATS JUST MY OPINION...

We don't share the same views on anything else....why break the pattern. UGH.....Caliche....caliche....caliche................

Caliche · TOP Guru

OK THEN IM AGAINST THAT.... NOONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL AN UNBORN CHILD.... THATS JUST MY OPINION...

Chilenita · Comandante

Caliche wrote:

WHAT DOES PRO - CHOICE MEAN?? CUZ IM AGAINST ABORTION....

PRO CHOICE = a womens RIGHT to choose

Caliche · TOP Guru

WHAT DOES PRO - CHOICE MEAN??

CUZ IM AGAINST ABORTION....

Chilenita · Comandante

WOW I am a little surprised at most anwers...feels like I am reading a forum from the 60's.....

PRO CHOICE ALL THE WAY!!!!

Lahtina · Foro Master

I am totally pro-choice.

CrazyBeautiful · Guru

i dont agree on abortion...i think if ur going to be having sex ..then u should be responsible for ur actions...and use condoms and be on the birth control pill..is the safest

Jinx · TOP Guru

I'm nobody to judge if a girl is getting one she must have her reasons, and it doesn't make her a bad person.

Girl · Guru

hEY guys thakyou for all ur opinions..Trust me ... It really Helped.

Sweetness · Guru

JoannaMartinez wrote:

I personally think that this is a very touchy subject to come across, everyone has different opinions. Accidents happen, condoms do break...and if the parents of the child do not have the financial or emotional stability, then why should we have another child grow up suffering? Also rape victims should defiantly be taken into consideration, if a woman is raped and is impregnated she may not feel comfortable carrying her rapists baby (I know i wouldn't but that is just my opinion). I think abortions should be there as an option because everyone has different circumstances. But I also believe that if your going to in gage in sexual activity, Be safe and practice safe sex.

You have a point in some of your comments, but I say just let nature take it's course. If it was ment to be it will be if it wasn't then it wasn't ment to be. We shouldn't try to take matters into our own hands, because we might make a bad choice that we will be regretting for the rest of our lives.

I agree I wouldn't feel comfortable caring a baby that was conceived through rape, but like I said on my previous post it's not the babies fault. There's always adoption.

GaTa_SaLvAjE · Regular Plus

i almost think that the more information that is released on abortions the more it becomes an option because it serves as a form of advertising!! I think a possible resolution lies in the medical term...perhaps if we change it to MURDER it would have a greater impact on women's decisions. I would say it is more of a psychological issue instead of a financial or physical......u have a lot of crazy women that carry the baby for 9 months (actually 10) and then throw the baby in a garbage bag or sometin....im not sure which is worst....it is one of those sensitive topics that kinda just jumbles ur mind!

JoannaMartinez · Regular Plus

I personally think that this is a very touchy subject to come across, everyone has different opinions. Accidents happen, condoms do break...and if the parents of the child do not have the financial or emotional stability, then why should we have another child grow up suffering? Also rape victims should defiantly be taken into consideration, if a woman is raped and is impregnated she may not feel comfortable carrying her rapists baby (I know i wouldn't but that is just my opinion). I think abortions should be there as an option because everyone has different circumstances. But I also believe that if your going to in gage in sexual activity, Be safe and practice safe sex.

Alex Bello · Guru

Girl wrote:

Hi guys.!! i'm a new member of this foro... and i will like to know everybodys opion about this topic.

Yo solo digo, que si ami me hubieran abortado, No Banda Bella, No Sin Ti, No Alejandro Antonio, No Gozadera del paraiso que dios nos saco de las costilla.

Abortion should not be an option.

AB.....

Sweetness · Guru

Mariposita wrote:

Hey girl, I am also agianst the idea but as some mentioned, sometimes you dont have a choice but to abort bc of the circumstances that one is in. But i do disagree with people who do it more than once...i mean dont you learn your lesson the first time around?? anyway those are my thoughts

Of course you have a choice everyone has a choice unless someone pins you down and forces you to have one now that's different. You can always have the baby and put him or her up for adoption. There are many couples out there that can't have any children and would love to adopt one. I can understand that if a girl is rapped and doesn't want the child, because of the situation, but it's not the babies fault or hers. She can still have the baby and give it to someone who does want it. Everyone has a choice, but not everyone is willing to take on the responsibilities that a baby brings. Some people just want to take the easy way out. I know some girls might not be ready for a baby, but like I said adoption, adoption, adoption! Why is it that people are always trying to play God. In my opinion he is the only one who can decide the fate of humanity. That's just my opinion.

Mariposita · Regular

Hey girl,
I am also agianst the idea but as some mentioned, sometimes you dont have a choice but to abort bc of the circumstances that one is in. But i do disagree with people who do it more than once...i mean dont you learn your lesson the first time around?? anyway those are my thoughts

Sweetness · Guru

I'm against abortion. I think that it's a cowardly thing to do. Ending a child's life just because you're not ready is a stupid reason to end a pregnancy. I think that there are other options like adoption. Girl's not having a choice is just an excuse that they use to justify an abortion. I say if you think that you are ready for sex then you should be responsible enough to take care of your responsibilities. Everyone has a choice, and some people choose to end a baby's life so that it won't be a hassel in their life. Now that's just my opinion. Look at it this way would you kill someone just, because they're a bother to you. I don't think that you would, because that's murder and you would go to jail for that. That's not how you solve your problems. That will only make it worse. The same goes for abortion. Sure you won't go to jail for having one, but it's still MURDER! How could you live with that. Knowing that you have just robbed a deffenceless child of their lives for your stupid choices in life. On top of all of this having an abortion is also hazzardous to yourself. Like I said before that's just my opinion. Everyone is different and have the right to make their own choices in life whether they're good ones or bad ones like abortion.