quote: Originally posted by: Chilenita "I would love to know if ANYONE in this foro lives by the rules of the Catholic CHURCH. People pick and choose what to follow......"
I don't think I follow any of them....I'm a Sinner !
quote: Originally posted by: Chilenita "I would love to know if ANYONE in this foro lives by the rules of the Catholic CHURCH. People pick and choose what to follow......"
I'll be the first to raise my hand and say that I break most of the rules of the church... I am just not ready to be the lil angel I was born to be!
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quote: Originally posted by: Chilenita " Okay let's talk YOU LOVE THE POPE AND ADMIRE HIM I GUESS YOU are also AGAINST a womens right to choose AGAINST BIRTH CONTROL AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS OF GAYS AND LESBIANS.... should I go on carlos"
@ Chi: YEAAHHHH HERE WE GO AGAIN... LOL.. But MOSTLY to play devil's advocate and to put forth the views of the TRADITIONAL Catholic church:
on "AGAINST a womens right to choose " If it's in reference to the right to choose to end a pregnancy - How about the right of that baby? Ohh no, another new debate... not a baby only a fetus? Does a fetus have rights too?
on "AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS OF GAYS AND LESBIANS" Lesbians and gays still have other churches and countries where they CAN get married. If your church doesn't believe/support your sexual prefference you don't need to take part in it.
on "AGAINST BIRTH CONTROL " I am with you on that - with AIDS and how hard it is to raise kids, one needs it. But the church goes on the side that SEX is not to be used for pleasure, only for procreation.
on "should I go on" - No need. A church's values are not there to mirror the values of the world. Although some of us may see the need for some changes, the church is not there to change as peoples' views change. At least I don't think any church of any religion should change drastically to accomodate it's followers. Shouldn't the followers be the ones who choose whether they want to belong the church or not? It is still our choice on all that we choose to do in life.
One thing is for certain NO CHURCH will EVER satisfy everyone!
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quote: Originally posted by: carlos_vive "You can (and are pretty good at it) give us your opinion, don't try to guess what mine are or what Im against. I am definitely against Communism and have very strong opinions about it, I can assure you they are not based on what my Daddy told me in a bedtime story"
YOUR FAVORITE PAPA and all you admire is his stance on communism?????
So share your views on these issues since they are what this POPE stands for after all your post is about him.
Another thing you have no idea who or what I am or what I have been through so cut the "daddy" bull**** out. You are avoiding giving your opinion on the other issues at hand that is all....
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You can (and are pretty good at it) give us your opinion, don't try to guess what mine are or what Im against. I am definitely against Communism and have very strong opinions about it, I can assure you they are not based on what my Daddy told me in a bedtime story
I would like to quote something I read about the Pope, that I find it very inspiring and real. Let us all hope that the next Pope continues this mission and the people of Venezuela, Brazil and Uruguay don't suffer what others suffered. This journalist explains quite well.
Porfirio Cristaldo A. AIPE
"Juan Pablo II hizo lo imposible por liberar al mundo del yugo comunista. Colaboró con Ronald Reagan en debilitar a la Unión Soviética y sus satélites, hasta que en 1989 su misión se vio coronada con la caída del Muro de Berlín y, más tarde, en 1991, con el derrumbe del imperio soviético a causa de la ineficiente economía socialista. Millones de personas volvieron a respirar vientos de libertad y esperanza. Y como exponía en su homilía, Europa volvió a ser una otra vez.
Para Juan Pablo II, el socialismo fracasó por estar en contra de la naturaleza humana. Un error antropológico. El socialismo niega la sublime individualidad y creatividad con la que Dios bendijo a cada persona, por lo que propugna el paternalismo, la intervención en la economía y la propiedad estatal. Ello quita responsabilidad a la sociedad y provoca pérdidas de energías humanas, así como el crecimiento exagerado del aparato estatal y su dominio por intereses que sirven a los políticos, no a los pueblos. Por eso el Papa rechaza toda economía que carezca de valores éticos o que no esté encuadrada en un estado de derecho al servicio de la libertad. "
Mi Papa favorito tiene mucho de libertario, como se ve en su defensa de la vida, la paz, la libertad individual y el gobierno limitado. Una auténtica democracia, dice, es posible sólo en un Estado de Derecho, dado que una democracia sin valores se convierte fácilmente en un totalitarismo. ¡Cómo necesitamos tus ideas en este continente de lágrimas, Santo Padre!
El autor es corresponsal de AIPE y presidente del Foro Libertario.
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