Is this the place to live?

careguea · Senior Member

RE: RE: Is this the place to live?

Yesi · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: TV Buff
"She's M.I.A. again... one of two things happened: They f@cked up her hair, 'cause she was getting a haircut, and she hasn't shown up for work... or she's living it up in Cuba, and didn't say anything 'cause the whole foro would've tagged along... She'll be back, though... they all come back (Cue the evil, maniacal laughter...)"

JAJAJAJAJAJ ok that last comment made me laugh hard in my office, everyone is looking at me weird. But you are right, whe will come back

yesi

TV Buff · TOP Guru

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Originally posted by: LGigolo
"@ Buffy: here let me massage it too - well said... parents can teach good values and morals wherever they raise their kids - just because they are raised here doesn't mean they can not be raised right! @ Yesi: I don't know about Chilenita - but seems Chilenito has disapeared with her - neither of them around lately... hummmmm "

Hey, now that you mention it, the Confundidos seem to have gone missing too... Coincidence ??? Let's expect a Confu Jr. anytime soon

@ GiGi: thanks for the ego massage... my ego is feeling complete relaxation right now from so many massages (oops, you know what happens when something's too relaxed...)

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Yesi
"LOL, anytime. Hey have you seen CHilenita lately?? where is she? Yesi"

She's M.I.A. again... one of two things happened: They f@cked up her hair, 'cause she was getting a haircut, and she hasn't shown up for work... or she's living it up in Cuba, and didn't say anything 'cause the whole foro would've tagged along... She'll be back, though... they all come back (Cue the evil, maniacal laughter...)

LGigolo · Comandante

@ Buffy: here let me massage it too - well said... parents can teach good values and morals wherever they raise their kids - just because they are raised here doesn't mean they can not be raised right!

@ Yesi: I don't know about Chilenita - but seems Chilenito has disapeared with her - neither of them around lately... hummmmm

Yesi · Guru

LOL, anytime. Hey have you seen CHilenita lately?? where is she?

Yesi

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Yesi
"WOW, TV Buff as usual you said it perfectly Yesi"

Thanks, Yesi, you're my personal ego massager...

Yesi · Guru

WOW, TV Buff as usual you said it perfectly

Yesi

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: LGigolo
"@ TV Buff: - I totally agree with you on the great pros of living here and the fact that they do outweight the cons - mainly when it comes to financial seurity and personal safety. The main big cons I find is the morals and value system of north america and the fact that kids get exposed to things like drugs and sex much earlier than from what I remember in south america.

Yeah, maybe the moral and value system of North America may not be the best that we should expose our children to, but I do believe 100% that we teach our children values and morals at home, and that's what they take with them through life. I was taught to be the way I am from a very, very early age (that's why they say that the first two years of a child's life are the most important, because those are the formative years, and they learn what they'll become for the rest of their lives) and I firmly believe in that.
My sister is like you, she raised her children here and she's always saying "if you'd grown up back home, you'd be so different. Life was always better back there." (And her children are great, nevertheless.) I think that's wrong. People and the lifestyle have changed back there too. The morals and values have also changed in Latin America. We don't see it because we're here. And as for morals and values, I think is mainly our responsibility as parents of Latin origin to teach and form our children the way we want them to be.

Phantasma · TOP Guru

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Originally posted by: Chipe
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Yo estoy contento de vivir en este pais y no pienso dejarlo, seria una falta de respeto que le de la espalda o hable mal de un pais que me dio la mano cuando mas la necesitabamos y para todos esos que se quieren ir "ADIOS", asi dan espacio para los que quieren venir."

cosigned!

torontotrucho · Guru

Hey CHipe , que bien lo has dicho muchacho.

Aplauzos.

Chipe · Regular Plus

yo estoy de acuerdo con CONFUNDIDA que segun parece no esta tan confundidad cuando a elejir el pais en donde vivir.

Canada es el mejor lugar para vivir de este continente, donde existe seguridad y trabajo. lo que pasa que muchos no valoran lo que tiene hasta que lo pierden.

Si latinoamerica fuera tan perfecto no tendriamos a miles de latinos inmigrando a Canada, como dijo tv buff una cosa en visitar latinoamerica otra vivir, ademas suerte la del canadiense que si las cosas le van mal en latinoamerica siempre puede regresar, los latinos no tienen ese prifilegio.

Asi que agradece si tienes la ciudadania canadiense.

Pero como dice el dicho el hombre es el unico ANIMAL que se tropieza con la misma piedra mas de una vez.

Yo estoy contento de vivir en este pais y no pienso dejarlo, seria una falta de respeto que le de la espalda o hable mal de un pais que me dio la mano cuando mas la necesitabamos y para todos esos que se quieren ir "ADIOS", asi dan espacio para los que quieren venir.

confundida · Foro Master

THIS IS FUNNY........

CANADA WILL ALWAYS BE THE PLACE TO BE..........

PPL LEAVE THIS COUTNRY TO MIGRATE SOUTH, FOR WHAT A SLOWER PACE OF LIFESTYLE, BE WITH THERE LATINO PPL.....TURN ON THE TV AND HAVE VARIETY OF SPANISH CHANNEL.....PAY FOR HEALTH BENEFITS......BASICALLY PAY FOR UR LIFE.........

BUT THE THING IS ALL OF THEM ALWAYS COME BACK.......

WHY SIMPLE ONE THEY DONT GET AS DRISCIMINATED AS MUCH HERE....... AND TWO U CAN WORK AND NOT HAVE TO LOOK OVER UR SHOULDER TO SEE IF THE COPS ARE COMING FOR YOU.......

THE CONSTRUCTION IS BOOMING, YES IT IS BUT WHY WOULD U WANT TO GET PAID 5 U$ WHEN YOU CAN GET PAID 15 OR EVEN 20 CDN...............

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY PPL WOULD LEAVE A COUNTRY LIKE THIS......

OjitosLindos · Regular Plus

I just got back to Toronto not long ago to put our house for sale and to pick up the rest of my stuff I have been packing away like a maniac. I am due for a job interview in may with a US company but there are a lot of opportunities in Florida and real estate in booming as well as the construction industry.

I am working on my new project still, although taking my time to make sure it comes out right you know these things can be complicated. Once it is ready I have to push it a much as I can. But like I said I am in no rush.

-- Edited by OjitosLindos at 11:27, 2005-04-11

Yesi · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: OjitosLindos
""

What are you doing in Miami?? was it hard to find a job??

Yesi

OjitosLindos · Regular Plus

quote:

Originally posted by: Buscando_Princesa
"Chilena, I moved to the South Florida about a year ago and I'm happy for it. I got sick of the life in Canada. Tired of the lame-ass political refugees LATINOs, The weather promising to get better and never does, the lack of representation in the media, CARLOS CUEVAs and his lackeys, TLN, the chessy Do** Bands, the having to jet from clubs cause a fight has broken out or weather. the same people and the scene in the clubs. Nunca ver un alma latina pero en los clubs.

I must say I agree with you out of here is where is at this city SUCKS big time . Demasiado envidia y separatismo en nuestra comunidad y el mismo circulo de idiotas en la radio, los periodicos y la television explotando a los demas. El unico lugar donde los Real Estate agents se creen ser estrellas de cine y los medios de comunicacion.

For all that I can say they can kiss my big ...

Florida is the paradise so pick and get the hell out of T.O. Canada has nothing to offer for me but high taxes and snow.

JUAN MIGUEL

1800SLUT · Senior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: Buscando_Princesa
" Ofrezco cordialmente estos links a un orgullo de nuestra Gran America: Gondwana, Chile, http://www.fortunecity.es/salsa/pop/302/gondwanareggaechile/gondwana.htm Put you speakers up or Limeware it. MMMM, your almost there... "

NICE FAMILY.........LOL
NAWWW I'M JOKING MAN!! NICE PIC!

Buscando_Princesa · Regular

Ofrezco cordialmente estos links a un orgullo de nuestra Gran America: Gondwana, Chile,

http://www.fortunecity.es/salsa/pop/302/gondwanareggaechile/gondwana.htm

Put you speakers up or Limeware it.

MMMM, your almost there...

Buscando_Princesa · Regular

Chilena,

I moved to the South Florida about a year ago and I'm happy for it. I got sick of the life in Canada. Tired of the lame-ass political refugees LATINOs, The weather promising to get better and never does, the lack of representation in the media, CARLOS CUEVAs and his lackeys, TLN, the chessy Do** Bands, the having to jet from clubs cause a fight has broken out or weather. the same people and the scene in the clubs. Nunca ver un alma latina pero en los clubs.

Down here I feel so relaxed, accepted, and appreciated for speaking english, like a Canadian, Americans never test you and yet they love you and believe Canada is the promised land. Work is here and available if you look and act decent (and not develop an addiction) . The weather is always promised paradise. The pace is relaxed. LATINOs rule tv, radio etc. You can meet your people in every situation of daily life strike up a conversation, laundry, at the park, beach, grocery store, club, gym, you name it.

Every day I walk out with no need to pack on the layers, don't even think of it, just throw on some shorts, the shades, the shirt, and I'm out. Gas is cheap. and prices are very low (TARGET rules), can save on a modest income, and as long as the sun shines all is paradise.

I had a career in Toronto, 45K/year, in IT. Left if for some life, slower-pace, beach, sun, peace, and mi gente.

My only regret is that I didn't make the move sooner. And bring along friends from TO.

Que piensas...

ps. Relaxing on Key Biscayne Beach, next to the cars, I heard a cuban playing the sweetest sound to my ears to today, love it, te felicito son tu gente: GONDWANA!

MMMMMM.

torontotrucho · Guru

Chilenita, that's a good question.

Well, I was laid off as a lab. chemist last year and offered a new job as an operator (making more money) but working days and nights (rotating shift). I accepted this job because I did'nt know it would suck this much. E.g: I haven't slept for about 17.5 hours since yesterday. SO yesterday I asked my boss if I could be let go again so I can find another job (money is not everything I've been telling myself), He said He'll ask the office about it ( at least He wasn't upset). So in a moment like this I wish I was drinking coconut water infront of the blue sea somewhere in Latin America. Reality is I have to pay my share of the house's mortgage; nevertheless, I'll continue insisting in looking for another job; because' as I said :money is not everything. I hope I get another job as soon as possible. Summer is almost here and I need to go fishing weekends, and playing pool at nigth every weekend.

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Anonymous
"Is all about loving what you do. Yes, travelling gets tiresome sometimes because you just want your room not a hotel room. The good thing is that you culture yourself by meeting different people. I'm in a little town right now called Leamington. Couple of minutes away from Windsor and Detroit. I never though there was a city in Ontario or even Canada that makes me feel as if I was in Houston, Texas. Lots of Mexicans working in the Farms and a lot of them own restaurants and stores. Is a beautiful little town and has some interesting tourist sites to see."

Hey, that sounds pretty cool... I always thought that the further away you moved from the big cities (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver) the less hispanics you would see. I totally forgot about farms and mexicans... and they own restaurants in town, you say? That sounds pretty cool. I went to Lindsay once on my way to a cottage, and we went into a small restaurant. I kid you not, people looked at us like we were extraterrestrials. And there were these two men talking about guns... the whole conversation was about guns (apparently they all owned one). My point is that I thought all small towns were very whitey... thanks for sharing that...

Date: Apr 6 2:41 PM, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: TV Buff
"I guess it helps when what you do is something you feel really passionate about... making money and having a good time all the same. Some jobs are just so repetitive, though, and I'm sure even travelling must get tiresome at some point. But good for you, that you enjoy what you do... "

Is all about loving what you do. Yes, travelling gets tiresome sometimes because you just want your room not a hotel room. The good thing is that you culture yourself by meeting different people. I'm in a little town right now called Leamington. Couple of minutes away from Windsor and Detroit. I never though there was a city in Ontario or even Canada that makes me feel as if I was in Houston, Texas. Lots of Mexicans working in the Farms and a lot of them own restaurants and stores. Is a beautiful little town and has some interesting tourist sites to see.

Date: Apr 6 2:34 PM, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"@anonymous.....same here took the promotion.....delegate (that is where the TH foro time comes from) and we have offices throughtout Canada as well but it's not enough. I want to know the family next door, have everyone over for asados and YES take time in the middle of the day to lunch with my Granny if I so desire.....CANADA is not like that and you know it. Anyhow FORO my choices are Chile and Argentina so when I decide and move you can all come and visit....we can sip on Pisco Sour or Cerveza Crystal........"

Yeah Canada is not like that, but make evrything out of it!!! work with what you got!!!

Date: Apr 6 2:31 PM, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: DR J
" yeah, while you're travelling across Canada your family is sitting at home waiting for you to give them some attention"

I don't have a wife or kids. My family; my parents, my brothers always come on the weekends to visit me at any city I'm in.

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"@anonymous.....same here took the promotion.....delegate (that is where the TH foro time comes from) and we have offices throughtout Canada as well but it's not enough. I want to know the family next door, have everyone over for asados and YES take time in the middle of the day to lunch with my Granny if I so desire.....CANADA is not like that and you know it. Anyhow FORO my choices are Chile and Argentina so when I decide and move you can all come and visit....we can sip on Pisco Sour or Cerveza Crystal........"

Chile, how come you don't know the family next door? I know most of my neighbours, and I've only lived in mine for about a year and a half... just pop over with some pisco and start getting to know them... On the other hand, my neighbours back home knew a little bit too much about my family... no secrets back there...

Confesiones · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: DR J
" as long as it is with peruvian pisco (the real one!! )"

THAT'S WHAT I MEATN MA'FREN...what other pisco is out there?? i mean....ISN'T PISCO part of Peru ?? SO THAT'S IT....
i love pisco sour.... you can't go wrong with that!!!
HMM mmm

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Anonymous
" I don't call it fast pace!! I call it ROUTINE. Yes, everyday I do the same thing over an over again but unlike Dr. J; I did take those promotions that he passed on. It gave me more money and power to delegate my work to other people. I make good money and I live my live as if I don't have a next day. I go out every day and thankfully I always travel on business to different parts of Canada and I do my job and go sight seeing. P.S. You only live once enjoy it!!!"

I guess it helps when what you do is something you feel really passionate about... making money and having a good time all the same. Some jobs are just so repetitive, though, and I'm sure even travelling must get tiresome at some point. But good for you, that you enjoy what you do...

Chilenita · Comandante

quote:
Originally posted by: DR J
" as long as it is with peruvian pisco (the real one!! )"

Dr.J didn't you see in the other post that I know martial arts???

Okay so you invented it let's leave it at that OR we get the foro together you make yours I'll make mine we all get drink and decide which one is better..

DR J · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"
Isn't it the BEST drink......ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
"

as long as it is with peruvian pisco (the real one!! )

Chilenita · Comandante

quote:
Originally posted by: Confesiones
"pisco sour.....hmmm you are talking my language!!!! "

Isn't it the BEST drink......ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Confesiones · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"@anonymous.....same here took the promotion.....delegate (that is where the TH foro time comes from) and we have offices throughtout Canada as well but it's not enough. I want to know the family next door, have everyone over for asados and YES take time in the middle of the day to lunch with my Granny if I so desire.....CANADA is not like that and you know it. Anyhow FORO my choices are Chile and Argentina so when I decide and move you can all come and visit....we can sip on Pisco Sour or Cerveza Crystal........"

pisco sour.....hmmm you are talking my language!!!!

Chilenita · Comandante

@anonymous.....same here took the promotion.....delegate (that is where the TH foro time comes from) and we have offices throughtout Canada as well but it's not enough.

I want to know the family next door, have everyone over for asados and YES take time in the middle of the day to lunch with my Granny if I so desire.....CANADA is not like that and you know it.

Anyhow FORO my choices are Chile and Argentina so when I decide and move you can all come and visit....we can sip on Pisco Sour or Cerveza Crystal........

DR J · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Anonymous
"
I don't call it fast pace!! I call it ROUTINE. Yes, everyday I do the same thing over an over again but unlike Dr. J; I did take those promotions that he passed on. It gave me more money and power to delegate my work to other people. I make good money and I live my live as if I don't have a next day. I go out every day and thankfully I always travel on business to different parts of Canada and I do my job and go sight seeing.
P.S. You only live once enjoy it!!!"

yeah, while you're travelling across Canada your family is sitting at home waiting for you to give them some attention

Date: Apr 6 1:26 PM, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Anyone get tired of this city? You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????"

I don't call it fast pace!! I call it ROUTINE. Yes, everyday I do the same thing over an over again but unlike Dr. J; I did take those promotions that he passed on. It gave me more money and power to delegate my work to other people. I make good money and I live my live as if I don't have a next day. I go out every day and thankfully I always travel on business to different parts of Canada and I do my job and go sight seeing.

P.S. You only live once enjoy it!!!

El Duro · Foro Master

quote:
Originally posted by: QUE chula LINDA
"T.O. is soo fast pace. My dad complains about the same thing. I don;t feel it as much cus I go to college. I haven;t really experience the full time work thing. BUt I know what you are talking about. This is not a way of life, we have to be able to LIVE it, fully! "

Canada is a nice place to live,but everyone is right, it is to fast paced, Canada is good for rasing children, but the time u know it there adults, i remenbere 10 years ago when I was holding my son, now hes in grade 4 how time flies

QUE chula LINDA · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Anyone get tired of this city? You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????"

T.O. is soo fast pace. My dad complains about the same thing. I don;t feel it as much cus I go to college. I haven;t really experience the full time work thing. BUt I know what you are talking about. This is not a way of life, we have to be able to LIVE it, fully!

X4v13r · Comandante

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Anyone get tired of this city?
You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????"

Yeah is true, I remember when i use to live on my own between working, commuting, going to the gym, night school, home work, and cooking it left me time for nothing so i started going to sleep late...now my body only needs 4hr of sleep and I'm all good

X@vier

LGigolo · Comandante

@ TV Buff: - I totally agree with you on the great pros of living here and the fact that they do outweight the cons - mainly when it comes to financial seurity and personal safety. The main big cons I find is the morals and value system of north america and the fact that kids get exposed to things like drugs and sex much earlier than from what I remember in south america.

@ Chilenita: If you can save enough for two and take me with you! If you can save enough for more, take the rest of el Foro with you!

I also think the best way to make it in south america (as almost anywhere) is to have your own business. As a labourer you can hardly make ends meet, but with a business, you can do so much better.

Chilenita · Comandante

quote:
Originally posted by: DR J
" i've passed a couple of promotions because of this. (I work to live, not the other way around) at some point you have to stop and think if the extra money you'll be getting is worth more than the time you'll be giving up....and to me, at this point in my life, it isn't. I'd much rather spend my extra time with my girlfriend and my family"

Totally agree Dr.J! Money is nice and you need it to live but it's not everything.

I am going to make this South America thing happen and I hope it all turns out......it's worth a try....

DR J · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: God
"

Thay is what my dad always ask....

Do you live to work or Work to live ?

Everything has a Price.......nothing is free...

"

i've passed a couple of promotions because of this. (I work to live, not the other way around)

at some point you have to stop and think if the extra money you'll be getting is worth more than the time you'll be giving up....and to me, at this point in my life, it isn't. I'd much rather spend my extra time with my girlfriend and my family

God · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Dr.J and GOD...yep it SUCKS big time...no time for ANYTHING.......there has to more to life.....why live to work???
@BUFFY...yeah I was born and raised here but I did the whole live in South America thing for a bit and loved it....mind you with money from here. I really feel like taking my savings and making some more money over the next couple of years and investing it in South America....buy some property and go live there. I like the pace, values and just like canada it has it's pros and cons but the PROS are better.....if it does not work I'll just sell everything and come back....canada isn't going anywhwere....."

Thay is what my dad always ask....

Do you live to work or Work to live ?

Everything has a Price.......nothing is free...

Chilenita · Comandante

Dr.J and GOD...yep it SUCKS big time...no time for ANYTHING.......there has to more to life.....why live to work???

@BUFFY...yeah I was born and raised here but I did the whole live in South America thing for a bit and loved it....mind you with money from here. I really feel like taking my savings and making some more money over the next couple of years and investing it in South America....buy some property and go live there. I like the pace, values and just like canada it has it's pros and cons but the PROS are better.....if it does not work I'll just sell everything and come back....canada isn't going anywhwere.....

TV Buff · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Anyone get tired of this city? You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????"

This is a very good question, Chile, but you were born here. For those of us who immigrated to Canada, the answer will obviously be yes. True, the weather sucks, we had to learn a new language, life may be too fast-paced, the routine may drive you nuts at times-- you go to work, home, tv, groceries, etc, etc. But I would never change the safety and security and the fact that there's a future for me and my family here, and that I know I won't make some money only to be robbed and killed for it on the streets back home.

Being there, I loved the fact that any given weekend I could go to the beach, and the weather was always great; people partied and in general people are really happy, but I could never change all that for how safe and secure I feel here, and for the fact that if I work hard, I will accomplish something here. If I work hard, I can always go somewhere to charge my batteries for a couple of weeks also. I know we idealize life in Latin America, but that's because most of the people who are born here, only go there for a couple of weeks to visit. Trust me, it's really hard, and anybody who's lived there will tell you that. So enjoy what you have here.

God · TOP Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Anyone get tired of this city?
You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????"

Yes you're right find the life here very hard........ Work ..Home ..Work Home..If you want to do somethign else you need to make a HUGE effort....I guess it's the North American Life Style.....

On My case I spend almost 3 hrs commuting..... I leave my house around 4:30 am and I get home 9:30........thats why weekends I just want to Relax....

-- Edited by God at 10:38, 2005-04-06

-- Edited by God at 10:42, 2005-04-06

DR J · Guru

quote:
Originally posted by: Chilenita
"Anyone get tired of this city?
You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????"

I totally agree with you Chile, time flies here in Toronto (as in any big city), long conmutes and daily chores can reduce your 'time to yourself' .... we should have 3 day weekends!!!

Chilenita · Comandante

Anyone get tired of this city?

You go to work and then home and by the time you do the things you need to do like work out or cook that is it your night is done and then it starts again the next day. Okay so the weekends can be fun but it seems like they are over before you can even get into the groove of things. In South America life is different and people take time to enjoy life.....Is T.O too fast pace??????