i have no problem with accepting other religious stuff like people allowed to wear a turban on the job
you guys celebrate christmas? well your taking part of a christian holiday were we celebrate the birth of jesus
my views dont agree 100% on abortions and gay marriage but that wont mean that i cant respect them and their views ..... that shouldnt mean just cause toronto has many religions, that they should stop praying the lords prayer which started way before canada was born
PLUS ON TOP OF THAT ...ONTARIO VOTED AND WON TO KEEP THE LORDS PRAYER ....THE PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT THIS TOPIC CAUSE ITS NOT IMPORTANT
Dogo wrote: I wonder if suddenly a whole crap-load of Argentinians moved to Chile, and changed the country's tradition to cops wearing Gaucho hats, drinking mate, all day, listening to tango, and making REAL empanadas (, sorry!), if you would feel the same way
Well Italians went to Argentina and GOD knows you guys just took on their traditions Sooooooooo not kidding
anyway..... I am Canadian and as a Canadian I welcome change when it comes to respecting other people.
for the record I am in favor of NO prayers at all....not one that reflects everyone...NO PRAYERS...not everyone is into religion and they should ALSO be respected. If you want to pray....go pray in a church or whatever floats your boat.
Well, that's true, but that is because we amalgamated with Italians (among a dozen other cultures), because, well... our parents were immigrants and passed on some of their customs on to us, on their own terms (as I'm sure you would to your children). But not thanks to the government, any Argentinian institution or anything at a public level. As cosmopolitan as Argentina is, have you ever heard a radio, newspaper, or TV station in any other language than spanish?... exactly And it wasn't out of disrespect, but reality was that immigrants were in a foreign country and should adapt to IT. NOT the other way around. And I think it worked out just fine.
I've lived through both, and I'm soooo much more comfortable with the 'melting pot' mentality and maintaining the country's traditions (as much as reality allows), than I am with a 'muticultural' policy. I think it totally segregates every one living here
Well then...we agree to disagree.
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Dogo wrote: I wonder if suddenly a whole crap-load of Argentinians moved to Chile, and changed the country's tradition to cops wearing Gaucho hats, drinking mate, all day, listening to tango, and making REAL empanadas (, sorry!), if you would feel the same way
Well Italians went to Argentina and GOD knows you guys just took on their traditions Sooooooooo not kidding
anyway..... I am Canadian and as a Canadian I welcome change when it comes to respecting other people.
for the record I am in favor of NO prayers at all....not one that reflects everyone...NO PRAYERS...not everyone is into religion and they should ALSO be respected. If you want to pray....go pray in a church or whatever floats your boat.
Well, that's true, but that is because we amalgamated with Italians (among a dozen other cultures), because, well... our parents were immigrants and passed on some of their customs on to us, on their own terms (as I'm sure you would to your children). But not thanks to the government, any Argentinian institution or anything at a public level. As cosmopolitan as Argentina is, have you ever heard a radio, newspaper, or TV station in any other language than spanish?... exactly And it wasn't out of disrespect, but reality was that immigrants were in a foreign country and should adapt to IT. NOT the other way around. And I think it worked out just fine.
I've lived through both, and I'm soooo much more comfortable with the 'melting pot' mentality and maintaining the country's traditions (as much as reality allows), than I am with a 'muticultural' policy. I think it totally segregates every one living here
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Dogo wrote: I wonder if suddenly a whole crap-load of Argentinians moved to Chile, and changed the country's tradition to cops wearing Gaucho hats, drinking mate, all day, listening to tango, and making REAL empanadas (, sorry!), if you would feel the same way
Well Italians went to Argentina and GOD knows you guys just took on their traditions Sooooooooo not kidding
anyway..... I am Canadian and as a Canadian I welcome change when it comes to respecting other people.
for the record I am in favor of NO prayers at all....not one that reflects everyone...NO PRAYERS...not everyone is into religion and they should ALSO be respected. If you want to pray....go pray in a church or whatever floats your boat.
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Too Much Political Correctness BS, I am not racist but I agree with those PPL from quebec why do we have 2 make the changes is like if I give shelter to some in my house n I have 2 change my way of living just to make this persol feel good BS.
Chilenita wrote:They have been saying that prayer for like EVER!!! That is one slow pace...
Really?? Predominently non christian immigrants have been coming in only in the last few decades. I'd say that's a pretty fast pace
Turbans...of course I think they should be able to wear it!! Do you know how important that part of their religion is to them?
I'd say as important as it is for a prodominently christian country, to say the christian prayer in their OWN legislature? So you are saying that wearing a turban -an important part of a certain religion, as you say- in a CANADIAN institution, is ok.... but to read a prayer -an important part of a DIFFERENTreligion- in a country that is predominently and traditionally of THAT religion... in their OWN legislature, is wrong?? I wonder if suddenly a whole crap-load of Argentinians moved to Chile, and changed the country's tradition to cops wearing Gaucho hats, drinking mate, all day, listening to tango, and making REAL empanadas (, sorry!), if you would feel the same way
Listen I am not RELIGIOUS PERIOD but I respect people's right to believe in whatever they want and I don't think ANY holiday or prayer should be imposed on anyone.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not religious AT ALL either, and couldn't care less about the prayer, the turban, or whatever... but I'm focusing on tradition NOT religion... I agree with you n principal (about holidays, prayers, etc) but unfortunately (....or fortunately. Don't know. Don't care) some traditions were based on religion... .I mean, you, being non religious, and believing that no holiday should be imposed on people... do you NOT celebrate CHRISTMAS?? I'm cool with people's traditions, as long as they don't insist in changing mine (at least not immediately)
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lol well i dont know about a public school but were talking about queens park not schools
the prayer should be kept due to history and we started this country on cristian values ....doesnt matter if were now a multi-cultural city ...people who come here should expect that
So a Muslim should be forced to listen to YOUR prayer.
If I don't believe in God I should be forced to have YOUR religion shoved down my throat?
That is just silly.
You and i are usually on the same page when it comes to religion. However, in this case, I'm kinda with DP. Only because it's a matter of tradition, not religion. Whether it's the christian prayer or the "I'm a little teapot" song, so be it. I'm kinda tired (more like sorry for old generation Canadians) of Canada bending it's traditions to accomodate every single culture that sets foot on this country
Tradition - BLAHHHHHHHHHH! I say go with the times. So if it's about tradition and religion then are you saying you are also against legal abortion and gay marriage????? Times change and things should change with time. They should have respect for different cultures. This country was BUILT by immigrants.
I think gay marriage and abortion (or any other issue along those line, for that matter) are a matter of morality (for most) not so much tradition All countries in the Americas were built on immigrants, but carry the traditions of it's "founders", no?. I'm not against change, but I think it has to happen at it's own pace Are you, for example, ok with RCMP wearing turbans?
They have been saying that prayer for like EVER!!! That is one slow pace...
Turbans...of course I think they should be able to wear it!! Do you know how important that part of their religion is to them?
Listen I am not RELIGIOUS PERIOD but I respect people's right to believe in whatever they want and I don't think ANY holiday or prayer should be imposed on anyone.
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lol well i dont know about a public school but were talking about queens park not schools
the prayer should be kept due to history and we started this country on cristian values ....doesnt matter if were now a multi-cultural city ...people who come here should expect that
So a Muslim should be forced to listen to YOUR prayer.
If I don't believe in God I should be forced to have YOUR religion shoved down my throat?
That is just silly.
You and i are usually on the same page when it comes to religion. However, in this case, I'm kinda with DP. Only because it's a matter of tradition, not religion. Whether it's the christian prayer or the "I'm a little teapot" song, so be it. I'm kinda tired (more like sorry for old generation Canadians) of Canada bending it's traditions to accomodate every single culture that sets foot on this country
Tradition - BLAHHHHHHHHHH! I say go with the times. So if it's about tradition and religion then are you saying you are also against legal abortion and gay marriage????? Times change and things should change with time. They should have respect for different cultures. This country was BUILT by immigrants.
I think gay marriage and abortion (or any other issue along those line, for that matter) are a matter of morality (for most) not so much tradition All countries in the Americas were built on immigrants, but carry the traditions of it's "founders", no?. I'm not against change, but I think it has to happen at it's own pace Are you, for example, ok with RCMP wearing turbans?
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lol well i dont know about a public school but were talking about queens park not schools
the prayer should be kept due to history and we started this country on cristian values ....doesnt matter if were now a multi-cultural city ...people who come here should expect that
So a Muslim should be forced to listen to YOUR prayer.
If I don't believe in God I should be forced to have YOUR religion shoved down my throat?
That is just silly.
You and i are usually on the same page when it comes to religion. However, in this case, I'm kinda with DP. Only because it's a matter of tradition, not religion. Whether it's the christian prayer or the "I'm a little teapot" song, so be it. I'm kinda tired (more like sorry for old generation Canadians) of Canada bending it's traditions to accomodate every single culture that sets foot on this country
Tradition - BLAHHHHHHHHHH! I say go with the times. So if it's about tradition and religion then are you saying you are also against legal abortion and gay marriage????? Times change and things should change with time. They should have respect for different cultures. This country was BUILT by immigrants.
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lol well i dont know about a public school but were talking about queens park not schools
the prayer should be kept due to history and we started this country on cristian values ....doesnt matter if were now a multi-cultural city ...people who come here should expect that
So a Muslim should be forced to listen to YOUR prayer.
If I don't believe in God I should be forced to have YOUR religion shoved down my throat?
That is just silly.
You and i are usually on the same page when it comes to religion. However, in this case, I'm kinda with DP. Only because it's a matter of tradition, not religion. Whether it's the christian prayer or the "I'm a little teapot" song, so be it. I'm kinda tired (more like sorry for old generation Canadians) of Canada bending it's traditions to accomodate every single culture that sets foot on this country
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lol well i dont know about a public school but were talking about queens park not schools
the prayer should be kept due to history and we started this country on cristian values ....doesnt matter if were now a multi-cultural city ...people who come here should expect that
So a Muslim should be forced to listen to YOUR prayer.
If I don't believe in God I should be forced to have YOUR religion shoved down my throat?
That is just silly.
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lol well i dont know about a public school but were talking about queens park not schools
the prayer should be kept due to history and we started this country on cristian values ....doesnt matter if were now a multi-cultural city ...people who come here should expect that
I think politicians should focus on REAL issues. A prayer will not make or break a country. Plus, it's not like it's going to stop them from being corrupt and dishonest.
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TORONTO (CBC) - The Ontario legislature has voted to keep its daily reading of the Lord's Prayer.
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Premier Dalton McGuinty caused a tempest earlier this year when he said reading just the Lord's Prayer every day before the opening of business was out of date.
In February, McGuinty said, "it's time we had a prayer that better reflects our diversity."
An all-party committee was appointed to examine the issue.
That committee received more than 30,000 signatures on petitions, letters and e-mails, asking the legislature to keep the Lord's Prayer.
On Thursday, the committee recommended keeping the Christian prayer, but adding an additional prayer from another religion, or a moment of silence.
Government house leader Michael Bryant accepted the compromise.
"Is it a perfect decision, perhaps, perhaps not," he said.
The New Democrats say the Liberals needlessly created a crisis by trying to get rid of the prayer.
My opinion: Canada was founded on CHRISTIANITY...therefore this prayer should be kept...yes we are a multicultural country...but if we were to say a prayer for all religions...would we also say a prayer representing the Satanic church? I mean there are some people out there that really believe Satan is god. Where do you draw the line on multiculturalism?
**pls discuss, I am curious to know what others think on this subject***
, sorry!), if you would feel the same way
If you want to pray....go pray in a church or whatever floats your boat.
