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i think forgiveness is all about yourself really... Just because you've chosen to forgive someone does not mean that you are the bestest friends in the world.  Forgiving is about bringing yourself inner peace and letting yourself heal from your wounds... allowing yourself to live a happy life without grudges or hurt or misery.  You could very well be stewing in your own rage, and the person who has wronged you wont be affected by that at all.

Its easy for me to forgive, but its very hard for me to forget.  Its something that I have to learn to do.  But forgiveness is definately about allowing yourself to heal.

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Colombiana4Life wrote:

Motown Junkie wrote:

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Chilenita wrote:

I hold grudges BIG TIME!  It's a huge fault that I have.  Once you do something to me you are done.  That goes for men and women in my life.  Loyalty is EVERYTHING.  So things like murder..pfft..I would NEVER forgive.



I'm the SAME way!!!!!!!!!!  I don't care how much I love you.  Once you do me wrong, you're OUT!!!!!  furious.gif



Ironic that this topic should be brought up todayhmm   Anyhow, something like killing/hurting someone i love, no, I cannot forgive, and i would seek justice/revenge for something of that sort.

Something to a lower degree than that (lying, deceit, betrayal etc.), i MAY be able to forgive, but with time and depends on who the person is.  But I DONT forget.  I can also be a very grudgeful person, but as for revenge, it really depends on how much the person meant to me and to what degree i consider myself hurt.  But up till now, gracias a Dios, i havent had to "physically" get revenge on someone.  Karma has been

a wonderful ally and i have seen it for myself.



-- Edited by Colombiana4Life at 17:56, 2008-01-15

lonely.gif  I said I'm sorry!!!  crying.gif



You are forgiven.  Now bring me some cheescake evileyeevileye



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Motown Junkie wrote:

Colombiana4Life wrote:

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I hold grudges BIG TIME!  It's a huge fault that I have.  Once you do something to me you are done.  That goes for men and women in my life.  Loyalty is EVERYTHING.  So things like murder..pfft..I would NEVER forgive.



I'm the SAME way!!!!!!!!!!  I don't care how much I love you.  Once you do me wrong, you're OUT!!!!!  furious.gif



Ironic that this topic should be brought up todayhmm   Anyhow, something like killing/hurting someone i love, no, I cannot forgive, and i would seek justice/revenge for something of that sort.

Something to a lower degree than that (lying, deceit, betrayal etc.), i MAY be able to forgive, but with time and depends on who the person is.  But I DONT forget.  I can also be a very grudgeful person, but as for revenge, it really depends on how much the person meant to me and to what degree i consider myself hurt.  But up till now, gracias a Dios, i havent had to "physically" get revenge on someone.  Karma has been

a wonderful ally and i have seen it for myself.



-- Edited by Colombiana4Life at 17:56, 2008-01-15

lonely.gif  I said I'm sorry!!!  crying.gif



You are forgiven.  Now bring me some cheescake evileyeevileye



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Colombiana4Life wrote:

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I hold grudges BIG TIME!  It's a huge fault that I have.  Once you do something to me you are done.  That goes for men and women in my life.  Loyalty is EVERYTHING.  So things like murder..pfft..I would NEVER forgive.



I'm the SAME way!!!!!!!!!!  I don't care how much I love you.  Once you do me wrong, you're OUT!!!!!  furious.gif



Ironic that this topic should be brought up todayhmm   Anyhow, something like killing/hurting someone i love, no, I cannot forgive, and i would seek justice/revenge for something of that sort.

Something to a lower degree than that (lying, deceit, betrayal etc.), i MAY be able to forgive, but with time and depends on who the person is.  But I DONT forget.  I can also be a very grudgeful person, but as for revenge, it really depends on how much the person meant to me and to what degree i consider myself hurt.  But up till now, gracias a Dios, i havent had to "physically" get revenge on someone.  Karma has been

a wonderful ally and i have seen it for myself.



-- Edited by Colombiana4Life at 17:56, 2008-01-15

lonely.gif  I said I'm sorry!!!  crying.gif



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Guadalupana wrote:

That's right Lg, just accept it and don't question me.



WHY shouldn't I question you? Why?

 



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That's right Lg, just accept it and don't question me.

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Guadalupana wrote:

Lg, it does make sense.



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Lg, it does make sense.

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El Mismo wrote:

I have learn to forgive cause i did not gain nothing by holding grudges except more pain.

And if one of my loved ones are hurt or killed by some other, I know I would have to control my self not to go out and do something crazy that i would regret the rest of my life.

What do i get by lowering my self to the level of a inhuman person.

To resolve injustice with violence is like an impotent man trying to rape a girl.blankstare



No comprende that statement - no make sense... Violoence/Revenge may not "resolve" an injustice; but it will make one feel good to have "gotten someone back" or to make someone "pay" for their wrong doing to you or a loved one.

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I have learn to forgive cause i did not gain nothing by holding grudges except more pain.

And if one of my loved ones are hurt or killed by some other, I know I would have to control my self not to go out and do something crazy that i would regret the rest of my life.

What do i get by lowering my self to the level of a inhuman person.

To resolve injustice with violence is like an impotent man trying to rape a girl.blankstare

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Motown Junkie wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

I hold grudges BIG TIME!  It's a huge fault that I have.  Once you do something to me you are done.  That goes for men and women in my life.  Loyalty is EVERYTHING.  So things like murder..pfft..I would NEVER forgive.



I'm the SAME way!!!!!!!!!!  I don't care how much I love you.  Once you do me wrong, you're OUT!!!!!  furious.gif



Ironic that this topic should be brought up todayhmm   Anyhow, something like killing/hurting someone i love, no, I cannot forgive, and i would seek justice/revenge for something of that sort.

Something to a lower degree than that (lying, deceit, betrayal etc.), i MAY be able to forgive, but with time and depends on who the person is.  But I DONT forget.  I can also be a very grudgeful person, but as for revenge, it really depends on how much the person meant to me and to what degree i consider myself hurt.  But up till now, gracias a Dios, i havent had to "physically" get revenge on someone.  Karma has been

a wonderful ally and i have seen it for myself.



-- Edited by Colombiana4Life at 17:56, 2008-01-15

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Chilenita wrote:

I hold grudges BIG TIME!  It's a huge fault that I have.  Once you do something to me you are done.  That goes for men and women in my life.  Loyalty is EVERYTHING.  So things like murder..pfft..I would NEVER forgive.



I'm the SAME way!!!!!!!!!!  I don't care how much I love you.  Once you do me wrong, you're OUT!!!!!  furious.gif



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For major things as the ones listed on Buffy's original post, I don't think I would be EVER able to forgive. Someone hurting violently (rape/murder) my child would be automatic reason for me to go after them and make sure they are never able to repeat that offense with anyone ever again. I would try and make it in a smart way, so not to get caught; but would be willing to spend the rest of my days in a cell to get 'em back. OJO POR OJO, DIENTE POR DIENTE.

For more everyday things, minor sh it done against myself - I tend to forgive WITH TIME. But it can never be the same type of relationship with that person. I can forgive, but not forget. Once you loose my trust, you won't get it back easily, if at all.

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SCREW THAT!!! I RATHER YOU LIVE IN MISERY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE......WHY SHOULD I FORGIVE YOU SO YOU CAN HAVE INNER PEACE?? NAW.....EVEN IF YOU FORGIVE THE MEMORIES WILL STILL HAUNT YOU.....AND YOUR STILL LIVING WITH THE MISERY

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I can't forgive like most of you... when someone hurts me or my family in any way, that is it............ I don't care how much sorry they are...

And like Chilenita if anyone ever murders anyone that I love, I will kill them.... and make it look like an accident....

Like the movie " An eye for an eye"


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I've never been through extreme situations such as these, and I doubt very much I could forgive. However, in "normal" situations, I have a hard time holding a grudge for a very long time. And I've forgiven some pretty fu cked up things. Yeah.. at first I might want to kill you but it all kinda fades away with time (more time for some things thatn others)
I never forget though



I wish I was more like that.  Can you believe that when I was younger some loser cheated on me and I just straight up NEVER spoke to him again!!!  He would call everywhere and show up everywhere and I never even spoke to him again.blankstare I would just say to my family or friends that were around to tell him if he stepped near me I would have him arrested blankstare I NEVER even explained WHY I was leaving him or anything. blankstare  Nuts eh?  I know I amblankstare

I can't imagine what it feels like to loose a child at the hands of some crazy fuker.  I would kill them never mind forgivehmm



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I've never been through extreme situations such as these, and I doubt very much I could forgive. However, in "normal" situations, I have a hard time holding a grudge for a very long time. And I've forgiven some pretty fu cked up things. Yeah.. at first I might want to kill you but it all kinda fades away with time (more time for some things thatn others)
I never forget though

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I hold grudges all the time. I dont forgive people, I get even with them. I'm very revengeful... i still got some people to get even with, its taking me some time, but soon enough they'll be begging me for forgiveness and i'll say "no mothasuka, ure fuked now puszy!!!"

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Loyalty is everything. I agree with you Chilenita.




We are sort of going off topic but it's true.  I don't consider just anyone my friend.  It takes a lot for me to even refer to someone as a "friend"

Okay nada que ver what I am saying with what buffy is asking.

If someone did something to anyone I love I would never forgive.blankstare



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Loyalty is everything. I agree with you Chilenita.

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I hold grudges BIG TIME!  It's a huge fault that I have.  Once you do something to me you are done.  That goes for men and women in my life.  Loyalty is EVERYTHING.  So things like murder..pfft..I would NEVER forgive.

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Can someone who is considered heartless be able to forgive? Would this 'thing' that needs to be forgiven hurt the heartless one in the first place?

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I was watching this W5 special the other day about forgiveness. They had people who had had family murdered and some had forgiven and moved on and some had not. There was this woman whose daughter was raped and killed when she was 11 and she forgave the murderer right away. Some people, she said, were shocked that she was so quick to forgive, but she said that if we make distinctions on who can be forgiven and who can't, we can't be better as a society and move on.
It all sounds good in theory, but I was like, jawdrop.gif It was her daughter, for f uck's sake! I know in my heart that I'm not forgivng. Another woman, whose daughter was killed in the terrorists attacks in London, still can't forgive the guy who killed her. And she was a lutheran priest, so she had to resign, 'cause she just doesn't have it in her to forgive. Taht would be me. I'm not very forgiving. I know I'm not. I can't forgive traitors or people who've done things to me in the past, let alone a big thing like that.

What do you guys think?

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