Pedro Briceño - Did you guys see this?

Chilenita · Comandante

RE: Pedro Briceño - Did you guys see this?

Chilenita · Comandante

LGigolo wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

First of all I agree with both of you 100%. The man that beat the crap out of him many years ago should have charged him. No doubt about that.

Now about this "party"....its disgusting. There are many Chileans here in toronto as many of you know. Different types of Chileans. I know for a fact 100% that the Chilean people that I know and that my family has associated with for over 30yrs were not at this "party" and I am talking about many Chileans. When this dude first arrived here in Canada he tried to get into the circle of people that my parents associate with...I guess you would consider them the more "political" type of Chileans. At the time it was called "Toronto Chilean Society"....he didn't last long in that scene. He moved on to the "soccer Chileans" and well was in that sort of community until now. I know that many there became aware of what happned when he got beat up. Not sure if they are the ones showing up at this party or his church members....El popular people....who knows. All I know is that I am sure that he is guilty and I think it's irresponsible of his boss at El Popular (a paper that represents our community) to publicy say they support this man and that little girls are lying.

I don't think any educated person - Chileno (from the same country) or any other country would support anyone who's accused of molesting children.

It is IRRESPONSIBLE, of El Popular - if (LIKELY!!?) knowing of these charges to do a fundraising campaign to support this man and at the same time NOT DISCLOSING to the attendees the true purpose of the event - or dressing it up/covering up what's really going on!.

YES!!! EVERYONE should write to EL POPULAR and say how disgusting and irresponsible that is!!!!! This is paper that represents us!! How can they take sides on something like this. SHADY and HORRIBLE!!!!

X4v13r · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

X4v13r wrote:

LGigolo wrote:

X4v13r wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

so what was this party they had for him all about?

~X

I would suspect - yet I hope I am wrong - that it may have been to RAISE FUNDS for him. Say, to help him pay for some good lawyers of sh !t like that now that he is facing charges I HOPE NOT!!!

I know thats what it said on the article but my question was more about how the chilean community is supposedly behind him all the way and here u have chilenita saying the total opposite

~X
X read the article carefully. It says the community meaning I think the LATIN community. Does not say CHILEAN. It says he has support from THE COMMUNITY and they name the El Poplar dude and some soccer lady.

To me infuential Chilean is almost a funny way to describe someone who just takes pics of soccer and stuff.

ah, well i read it last week, sorry

anyways, if some of the chilean community knows about this guy y don't they put something together and put it forward, if he really is guilty they should help out and put this guy away for good.

~X

X4v13r · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

Ha I just read the full article and his church put on the fund raiser.

LOVELY as always the church standing behind sex offenders

I was thinking the same thing when i read it

~X

Chilenita · Comandante

X4v13r wrote:

LGigolo wrote:

X4v13r wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

so what was this party they had for him all about?

~X

I would suspect - yet I hope I am wrong - that it may have been to RAISE FUNDS for him. Say, to help him pay for some good lawyers of sh !t like that now that he is facing charges I HOPE NOT!!!

I know thats what it said on the article but my question was more about how the chilean community is supposedly behind him all the way and here u have chilenita saying the total opposite

~X

X read the article carefully. It says the community meaning I think the LATIN community. Does not say CHILEAN. It says he has support from THE COMMUNITY and they name the El Poplar dude and some soccer lady.

To me infuential Chilean is almost a funny way to describe someone who just takes pics of soccer and stuff. blankstare

LGigolo · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

First of all I agree with both of you 100%. The man that beat the crap out of him many years ago should have charged him. No doubt about that.

Now about this "party"....its disgusting. There are many Chileans here in toronto as many of you know. Different types of Chileans. I know for a fact 100% that the Chilean people that I know and that my family has associated with for over 30yrs were not at this "party" and I am talking about many Chileans. When this dude first arrived here in Canada he tried to get into the circle of people that my parents associate with...I guess you would consider them the more "political" type of Chileans. At the time it was called "Toronto Chilean Society"....he didn't last long in that scene. He moved on to the "soccer Chileans" and well was in that sort of community until now. I know that many there became aware of what happned when he got beat up. Not sure if they are the ones showing up at this party or his church members....El popular people....who knows. All I know is that I am sure that he is guilty and I think it's irresponsible of his boss at El Popular (a paper that represents our community) to publicy say they support this man and that little girls are lying.

I don't think any educated person - Chileno (from the same country) or any other country would support anyone who's accused of molesting children.

It is IRRESPONSIBLE, of El Popular - if (LIKELY!!?) knowing of these charges to do a fundraising campaign to support this man and at the same time NOT DISCLOSING to the attendees the true purpose of the event - or dressing it up/covering up what's really going on!. hmm

Chilenita · Comandante

Ha I just read the full article and his church put on the fund raiser.

LOVELY as always the church standing behind sex offenders blankstare

Chilenita · Comandante

First of all I agree with both of you 100%. The man that beat the crap out of him many years ago should have charged him. No doubt about that.

Now about this "party"....its disgusting. There are many Chileans here in toronto as many of you know. Different types of Chileans. I know for a fact 100% that the Chilean people that I know and that my family has associated with for over 30yrs were not at this "party" and I am talking about many Chileans. When this dude first arrived here in Canada he tried to get into the circle of people that my parents associate with...I guess you would consider them the more "political" type of Chileans. At the time it was called "Toronto Chilean Society"....he didn't last long in that scene. He moved on to the "soccer Chileans" and well was in that sort of community until now. I know that many there became aware of what happned when he got beat up. Not sure if they are the ones showing up at this party or his church members....El popular people....who knows. All I know is that I am sure that he is guilty and I think it's irresponsible of his boss at El Popular (a paper that represents our community) to publicy say they support this man and that little girls are lying. bleh

LGigolo · Comandante

X4v13r wrote:

LGigolo wrote:

X4v13r wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

so what was this party they had for him all about?

~X

I would suspect - yet I hope I am wrong - that it may have been to RAISE FUNDS for him. Say, to help him pay for some good lawyers of sh !t like that now that he is facing charges I HOPE NOT!!!

I know thats what it said on the article but my question was more about how the chilean community is supposedly behind him all the way and here u have chilenita saying the total opposite

~X

Haven't you noticed her avatar... She's not a true Chilena... She wishes she was Argentina!

I don't know where that statment about having the Chileno support is about. weirdface

X4v13r · Comandante

LGigolo wrote:

X4v13r wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

so what was this party they had for him all about?

~X

I would suspect - yet I hope I am wrong - that it may have been to RAISE FUNDS for him. Say, to help him pay for some good lawyers of sh !t like that now that he is facing charges I HOPE NOT!!!

I know thats what it said on the article but my question was more about how the chilean community is supposedly behind him all the way and here u have chilenita saying the total opposite

~X

LGigolo · Comandante

X4v13r wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

so what was this party they had for him all about?

~X

I would suspect - yet I hope I am wrong - that it may have been to RAISE FUNDS for him. Say, to help him pay for some good lawyers of sh !t like that now that he is facing charges confused

I HOPE NOT!!!

X4v13r · Comandante

LGigolo wrote:

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

I think THAT is a problem. If I was to find out anyone does something creepy like that to a child of mine, I think I would be capable of chopping off his sausage and feeding it to the dogs myself to ensure he never does sh! t like that again.

At the VERY LEAST, a parent who finds such a thing is done to his/her kid should PRESS CHARGES and see that he pays for his actions to the fullest strenght of the law. Beating him up once does not erase/take away his actions of such horrendous acts - that's like a fawken slap in the wrist.

If Cedeño was in fact guilty when he was previously beaten up - the parents of that child SHOULD have charged him. Perhaps that MAY have prevented some of the other cases he is now charged with. Or at the very least, more people would have become aware of the kind of psycho this man (allegedly?) is and with that knowledge less parents would have exposed their children to this man.

maybe the guy that kicked this guys a$$ before should come forward now and tell his story.

~X

X4v13r · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

so what was this party they had for him all about?

~X

LGigolo · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal.

I think THAT is a problem. If I was to find out anyone does something creepy like that to a child of mine, I think I would be capable of chopping off his sausage and feeding it to the dogs myself to ensure he never does sh! t like that again.

At the VERY LEAST, a parent who finds such a thing is done to his/her kid should PRESS CHARGES and see that he pays for his actions to the fullest strenght of the law. Beating him up once does not erase/take away his actions of such horrendous acts - that's like a fawken slap in the wrist.

If Cedeño was in fact guilty when he was previously beaten up - the parents of that child SHOULD have charged him. Perhaps that MAY have prevented some of the other cases he is now charged with. Or at the very least, more people would have become aware of the kind of psycho this man (allegedly?) is and with that knowledge less parents would have exposed their children to this man.

Chilenita · Comandante

People there is no "IF" here!! This man is 100% guilty. No doubt about it.

Years ago a Chilean man found out he had done something to his daughter and he beat the crap out of him. They never charged him which is why he continued to do it. DISGUSTING.

Oh one other thing....he walked around taking friggin pics of stuff like soccer. He WAS NOT any sort of influential person in the Chilean community. At least not the Chilean community I am part of. hmm

He worked for El friggin Popular - big deal. hmm

Yesi · Guru

OMG... I don't know this person at all, but 5 girls com'on.... I agree with TVBuff's mom... Si el rio suena es por que piedras trae.....

I am sorry, but i have seen a couple of things that I don't like about our latin communities as well... I think that is why I don't go to church because that is the place where I see them most....

Anyway If this guy is guilty he should definately pay for this.... But if he is not good luck to him proving it.

El Duro · Foro Master

I've met the man he take pic for el popular in the soccer edition, even if he is innocent that charge is alway going to stay on him forever, but if five lettle girls are saying the same thing then he should rot in hell

Cordoba_D · Guru

damm these chilenos always up to no good

:)

The Fan · Senior Member

Five girls came forward with the allegations, so i think there is a lot of true in this story.

If he is guilty i hope he pay for it, if not he better prove he did not touch of force this girls (6 to 7 years old) to do thing they did not like and thing that are not NORMAL. I don't know about this URENA guy but is not normal in my comunity to tell a little girl to touch our PENIS.

God · Foro Master

I know a guy with the same name....he's from Acapulco... evileye

X4v13r · Comandante

TV Buff wrote:

If he did it, I hope he rots in jail and has horrible nightmares every single day of his miserable existence.

If he didn't, I hope he can prove it beyond all reasonable doubt. Either way, he's screwed. But my mother used to say, "cuando el rio suena, piedras trae."

true, i would find it really hard to believe if it was just one girl but is 5 and there could be more so......

~X

TV Buff · TOP Guru

If he did it, I hope he rots in jail and has horrible nightmares every single day of his miserable existence.

If he didn't, I hope he can prove it beyond all reasonable doubt. Either way, he's screwed. But my mother used to say, "cuando el rio suena, piedras trae."

And by the way, regarding this line, "He's a hugger, he's a kisser," Uruena said. "In our culture, we hug and kiss. It's something without any malice." Why do older hispanic men feel that they have the god-given right to be so touchy and dirty sometimes, especially with young girls? I've seen it a million times and NOBODY says anything? Why the hell do they feel entitled to act this way?

-- Edited by TV Buff at 10:16, 2007-11-16

X4v13r · Comandante

wow i don't know the guy but if he didn't do it i hope he can fight the system and go back to his everyday thing.

~X

TV Buff · TOP Guru

Fundraiser for sex suspect
But 5 girls say an influential member of T.O.'s Chilean community assaulted them
By JONATHAN JENKINS, SUN MEDIA

An alleged victim of sex assault by Pedro Briceno, sits outside her apartment yesterday. She cannot be identified. (Dave Abel/Sun Media)

Everyone agrees, Pedro Briceno is well-known, popular and influential in Toronto's Chilean diaspora -- a prominent journalist and musician who has been a fixture in the cultural life of the community for years.

He has the support of his boss -- the editor of the local Spanish-language newspaper -- as well as clerics, business leaders and artists.

It's just a small number of pre-pubescent girls -- five so far -- who accuse him of sex assault.

"Everybody knows him, everyone loves him," the mother of one complainant says. "Supposedly he's a very good person.

"(But) I hate him because of what he (allegedly) did to my daughter. I believe this man is a danger to the kids."

The woman's daughter, who can't be identified by law, says she was 8 years old when Briceno is alleged to have molested her on several occasions, luring her to a computer upstairs at the local community centre where she says he would perch her on his lap, kiss her and tell her to touch his penis over his clothes.

'THIS ISN'T A LIE'

"The Hispanic community in general needs to know about this man," the now 24-year-old says.

"It is hard because there are people who are influential in the Chilean community who are saying this isn't true. But with more girls coming forward, I'm sure that attitude will be gone fairly quickly.

"This is for real, this isn't a lie or a revenge tactic. It's not. It's justice."

For years, she says she kept the allegations to herself, knowing it was wrong but not sure what to do or who would believe her.

In high school, she approached a guidance counsellor, who encouraged her to tell her mother. She in turn took the allegations to her friends and was told no one would believe them.

It was only recently, after she indirectly learned three girls aged between 7 and 9 had come forward with similar allegations against Briceno, that she decided to contact Toronto police.

She alleges that "I'm sure there are dozens and dozens of girls out there he's done this to. If there are, my message is to tell someone. He needs to go away for a very long time for what he's done."

Officers in 11 Division's Youth Bureau began investigating and eventually arrested Briceno, 64, on Aug. 27. He was charged with three counts of sex assault, three counts of sexual interference and two counts of inviting sexual touching.

He was later re-arrested when the older complainant called police on Oct. 15 and now faces additional charges of sex assault, sex interference and invitation.

A fifth complainant -- who came forward after police released the accused's picture -- was interviewed by detectives last night and two more charges of sex assault and sex interference will be laid at Briceno's next court appearance on Nov. 22, police said. Detectives are also talking to another woman outside of the country.

But for Briceno's many supporters, the allegations against the father of two are impossible to believe, and when news of his arrest hit the papers, they organized a fundraiser for the accused on Nov. 10 that attracted up to 400 people.

"I've known Pedro for 15 years and he's always been an upstanding person," Eduardo Uruena, Briceno's boss and editor of El Popular, a Spanish-language paper.

"People in the community are very upset about this situation because we believe and everybody believes that it's out of character. These charges are completely wrong."

That view was reflected in a glowing story El Popular ran about the benefit for Briceno, which failed to mention he was charged with the sexual assault of children.

"A well-attended fundraising fiesta for Pedro Briceno and his family was held this past Saturday at Saint Paul's Church, under the guidance of Father Maurice Francois and through the prompting of (other community members)," a translation of the story says. "Briceno, locked in a legal battle with government officials, has fallen on disastrous financial times, and the parish is coming to his aid with as much economic and moral support as can be mustered."

The story went on to say Anglican priest Francois spoke about the accusations, stressing the 9th Commandment not to bear false witness and comparing facing such a charge to death itself.

Francois refused to discuss what he said at the benefit yesterday.

'HE'S A HUGGER'

Uruena said he believes the charges against Briceno were likely the result of a "cultural misunderstanding" and a misinterpretation of Briceno's affectionate nature.

"He's a hugger, he's a kisser," Uruena said. "In our culture, we hug and kiss. It's something without any malice."

Patricia Navia said she grew up around Briceno as have her children and she can't believe the accusations could be true. She runs a children's soccer tournament Briceno photographs regularly and she's never heard or seen anything to raise suspicion.

She said she believes the charges may be the result of young children under pressure from an overzealous police investigation.

"I think what happened is one thing got into a snowball effect and got worse and worse," Navia said. "We as adults believe what we want to believe ... I'm not saying the little girls are lying. I'm just saying it could be a big misconstruction of events ...and once it got into the legal realm of things, it got bigger than what really happened."

Briceno's lawyer, Paul Gosio, did not return calls yesterday.