I know that Venecos are getting better, I don't know what the outcome of the game will be, but if you don't go with the mentallity that your team is going to win at home estas frito ... as far as the same level hmmmm...you probably love too much your country to admit it..so that's fine...but Ecuador didn't make any point in the COPA AMERICA and they haven't got anything in the WCQ yet... five losses in a row....000000
your right but im refering in terms of quality of futbol....at the moment colombia is no better then ecuador.....we have good key players but our organization is just off thanx to our wack a$$ coach....the goalies r not good tho...if anything just elizaga.....
colombias potential still didnt change
if anything chile is probably the best 3rd team in south america right now..
el problema de ecuador va mas alla del arquero. Ecuador no tiene un buen delantero , en el pasado tuvieron al tin delgado pero ahora no ahi quien la pueda meter al arco. Aunque parece que por ahi lo convocan al tin para que vuelva
Colombia no es mas que ecuador as a team ahora pero jugador por jugador colombia es mas.
Chile no lo vi tan fuerte, por mas que le gano a peru , peru jugo con muchas bajas ese partido y le jugo de igual a chile por muchos momentos.
Yo sinceramente creo que los terceros son sin dudas Uruguay y paraguay
Seguidos por Colombia, Chile , ecuador , peru , venezuela
Ultimo bolivia que no tiene buenos jugadores
Estas eliminatorias son muy regulares , aparte de brasil y argentina los demas equipos estan en un nivel muy parecido y cualquiera le puede ganar el partido a cualquiera.
im relying on the midfielders mendez lara valencia and kaviedes as a forward....we should be able to win....but u know we have the re****tion of choking away from home...
looks like ecuador is going through what colombia went through when its key players at the time valederrama asprilla etc...got old and they were left with average players
peru is going throught a different period now. The coach for some reason keeps calling the old glorys ( Roberto Palacios, Nol solano, Cirlizza,soto) players that are past their prime.
However there is a lot of youngsters peruvians playing internationally that are not giving a chance in the national team
Zambrano (germany) Vasquez ( sweden) Merino (Greece) Manco ( best under 17 player in southamerica last year) Chavez ( Belgium) Bailon (Portugal) Marino( spain) Forsyth (italy)
Plus we keep getting unlucky with the injuries we had in the first two games Guerrero ( germany)without a doubt the best player we have right now Hidalgo (Brasil) Marino (spain)
I think at least ecuador and colombia coaches are renovating their teams , at least you are seeing new players, sooner or later the results are gonna come for your team. In peru we have yet to see the new players play
I know that Venecos are getting better, I don't know what the outcome of the game will be, but if you don't go with the mentallity that your team is going to win at home estas frito ... as far as the same level hmmmm...you probably love too much your country to admit it..so that's fine...but Ecuador didn't make any point in the COPA AMERICA and they haven't got anything in the WCQ yet... five losses in a row....000000
your right but im refering in terms of quality of futbol....at the moment colombia is no better then ecuador.....we have good key players but our organization is just off thanx to our wack a$$ coach....the goalies r not good tho...if anything just elizaga.....
colombias potential still didnt change
if anything chile is probably the best 3rd team in south america right now..
el problema de ecuador va mas alla del arquero. Ecuador no tiene un buen delantero , en el pasado tuvieron al tin delgado pero ahora no ahi quien la pueda meter al arco. Aunque parece que por ahi lo convocan al tin para que vuelva
Colombia no es mas que ecuador as a team ahora pero jugador por jugador colombia es mas.
Chile no lo vi tan fuerte, por mas que le gano a peru , peru jugo con muchas bajas ese partido y le jugo de igual a chile por muchos momentos.
Yo sinceramente creo que los terceros son sin dudas Uruguay y paraguay
Seguidos por Colombia, Chile , ecuador , peru , venezuela
Ultimo bolivia que no tiene buenos jugadores
Estas eliminatorias son muy regulares , aparte de brasil y argentina los demas equipos estan en un nivel muy parecido y cualquiera le puede ganar el partido a cualquiera.
im relying on the midfielders mendez lara valencia and kaviedes as a forward....we should be able to win....but u know we have the re****tion of choking away from home...
looks like ecuador is going through what colombia went through when its key players at the time valederrama asprilla etc...got old and they were left with average players
I know that Venecos are getting better, I don't know what the outcome of the game will be, but if you don't go with the mentallity that your team is going to win at home estas frito ... as far as the same level hmmmm...you probably love too much your country to admit it..so that's fine...but Ecuador didn't make any point in the COPA AMERICA and they haven't got anything in the WCQ yet... five losses in a row....000000
your right but im refering in terms of quality of futbol....at the moment colombia is no better then ecuador.....we have good key players but our organization is just off thanx to our wack a$$ coach....the goalies r not good tho...if anything just elizaga.....
colombias potential still didnt change
if anything chile is probably the best 3rd team in south america right now..
el problema de ecuador va mas alla del arquero. Ecuador no tiene un buen delantero , en el pasado tuvieron al tin delgado pero ahora no ahi quien la pueda meter al arco. Aunque parece que por ahi lo convocan al tin para que vuelva
Colombia no es mas que ecuador as a team ahora pero jugador por jugador colombia es mas.
Chile no lo vi tan fuerte, por mas que le gano a peru , peru jugo con muchas bajas ese partido y le jugo de igual a chile por muchos momentos.
Yo sinceramente creo que los terceros son sin dudas Uruguay y paraguay
Seguidos por Colombia, Chile , ecuador , peru , venezuela
Ultimo bolivia que no tiene buenos jugadores
Estas eliminatorias son muy regulares , aparte de brasil y argentina los demas equipos estan en un nivel muy parecido y cualquiera le puede ganar el partido a cualquiera.
I know that Venecos are getting better, I don't know what the outcome of the game will be, but if you don't go with the mentallity that your team is going to win at home estas frito ... as far as the same level hmmmm...you probably love too much your country to admit it..so that's fine...but Ecuador didn't make any point in the COPA AMERICA and they haven't got anything in the WCQ yet... five losses in a row....000000
your right but im refering in terms of quality of futbol....at the moment colombia is no better then ecuador.....we have good key players but our organization is just off thanx to our wack a$$ coach....the goalies r not good tho...if anything just elizaga.....
colombia still looks the same as the last 2 qualifications for korea and germany if anything chile is probably the best 3rd team in south america right now..
It's a looooooong tournament, new players will come out in the meantime, and hopefully you guys can get rid off Suarez and his mantra of "Perder es ganar un poco" that Maturana brought a few years ago... apart from ARG- BRA anything else can happen...so don't loose your faith
No, I don't give up hope... but when good players on your team don't play a game or two, it just gives us less of a chance to win that one or two games... At the end of qualification, that extra 1 or 2 points lost could have been the difference in ending 4th or 6th - qualifiying or going home.
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It's a looooooong tournament, new players will come out in the meantime, and hopefully you guys can get rid off Suarez and his mantra of "Perder es ganar un poco" that Maturana brought a few years ago... apart from ARG- BRA anything else can happen...so don't loose your faith
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I know that Venecos are getting better, I don't know what the outcome of the game will be, but if you don't go with the mentallity that your team is going to win at home estas frito ... as far as the same level hmmmm...you probably love too much your country to admit it..so that's fine...but Ecuador didn't make any point in the COPA AMERICA and they haven't got anything in the WCQ yet... five losses in a row....000000
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(Reuters) Tuesday 6 November 2007 Print Email to a friend Ecuador have left captain Ivan Hurtado and right back Ulises de la Cruz out of the squad for this month's South Africa 2010 qualifiers against Paraguay and Peru.
The pair have criticised coach Luis Fernando Suarez recently and both played in the 5-0 defeat by Brazil last month.
Hurtado, 33, has won 145 caps for his country and has played in five FIFA World Cup qualifying campaigns, including the current one. De La Cruz has won 98 caps.
Although he is suspended from the Paraguay game after picking up two yellow cards, Hurtado would have been eligible to face Peru.
Goalkeeper Daniel Viteri was also dropped after disappointing performances against Venezuela and Brazil last month.
Viteri was caught napping by Jose Manuel Rey's 45 metre free kick in the 1-0 defeat by Venezuela and his blunder allowed Kaka to score Brazil's fifth goal at the Maracana.
Viteri was sent off in his next game for Deportivo Quito and had another bad afternoon on Sunday in a 3-1 league defeat by LDU.
Edwin Villafuerte, whose career has been punctuated by disciplinary problems, was recalled in Viteri's place alongside Argentine-born goalkeepers Marcelo Elizaga and Javier Klimowicz.
Ecuador, who have qualified for the last two World Cups, have yet to score a goal or a point in the qualifiying campaign for the tournament in South Africa.
They visit Paraguay on 17 November and host Peru four days later.
The squad: Goalkeepers: Marcelo Elizaga (Emelec), Edwin Villafuerte (Barcelona), Javier Klimowicz (Deportivo Cuenca)
okk tampoco asi hahahah maybe a 2-0 i smell an upset for colombia
I hope they could tie but if it's not a 0-0, I don't see who could score for Ecuador(do you see who?), I don't know this team at all, but it doesn't seem impressive and playing in Defensores del Chaco eshhhh, ... there are only two places left and I wouldn't like to see Paraguay flying away, and leave us only one spot to contend with Uruguay and maybe Chile
Colombia has new talents but they haven't proved anything yet, so I'm upbeat but still skeptic with them but if they can't beat Venezuela en el Campin, me daria mucha verguenza!
i wouldnt overlook venezuela pana.....l actually think that they will go far....they messed us up already at home....
colombias new talents remain to be seen still.....the team itself doesnt look that different from the last time still ****ty....they r probably at the same level of ecuadors soccer at the moment...maybe slightly lower..
if we can score saturday ill assume it will be from edison mendez lara or tenorio....
theres a good colombian player that plays in italy hes good i forgot his name
okk tampoco asi hahahah maybe a 2-0 i smell an upset for colombia
I hope they could tie but if it's not a 0-0, I don't see who could score for Ecuador(do you see who?), I don't know this team at all, but it doesn't seem impressive and playing in Defensores del Chaco eshhhh, ... there are only two places left and I wouldn't like to see Paraguay flying away, and leave us only one spot to contend with Uruguay and maybe Chile
Colombia has new talents but they haven't proved anything yet, so I'm upbeat but still skeptic with them but if they can't beat Venezuela en el Campin, me daria mucha verguenza!
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Argentina 4 - Bolivia 0 Peru 0 - Brasil 1 Colombia 2 - Venezuela 0 (just a warmup for the game against Argentina) Paraguay 3 - Ecuador 0 Uruguay 1- Chile 1
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actually dogo the top 4 make it and the 5 th plays against one of the concafac so its a almost a sure win. I would say 5 make it.
If Ecuador loses they can still make it , technically they only lost 3 points against venezuela , after that it was expected that ecuador will lose against brazil and this game is an away game so it is expected to be a lost or 1 point
They have to win the game against Peru for sure , otherwise they will be in big trouble
La selección ecuatoriana de fútbol brindó esta mañana la última rueda de prensa previo al viaje hasta Asunción donde se medirá contra Paraguay el próximo sábado por las eliminatorias mundialistas Sudáfrica 2010.
17/11/07 16:00 BUENOS AIRES Argentina vs. Bolivia 17/11/07 16:10 LIMA Perú vs. Brasil 17/11/07 16:10 BOGOTA Colombia vs. Venezuela 17/11/07 17:00 MONTEVIDEO Uruguay vs. Chile 17/11/07 20:10 ASUNCION Paraguay vs. Ecuador ______________________________________________
What do you think is going to happen en esta 3ra fecha de las eliminatorias? Any predictions?
My predictions:
Argentina 3 - Bolivia 0 Peru 0 - Brasil 3 Colombia 1 - Venezuela 1 Uruguay 1 - Chile 2 Paraguay 1 - Ecuador 2
GO ECUADOR We ARE number 1 (1 from the bottom of the list right now )
-- Edited by LGigolo at 15:45, 2007-11-13
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no way, if w loos we're out? 
My excitment barely lasted, more like it never lasted since we lost all games. LOL 
We ARE number 1 (1 from the bottom of the list right now 
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