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Gringa Lahtina wrote: I call it the Tyra Banks syndrome.  
 I no get. Please 'splain.@ MJ: No one is insulting anyone girl. Its just everyone's two pennies.Speaking of pennies... whats up with the ads in the subway... you know, the one about the pennies.  Are they for or against keeping the penny. It confuses me and then I ponder it all day long and I have yet to find the answer.


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Why did I tell PL to F-Off?

Let's see, he claims to be a new member when he surely isn't. He claimed to be every foro member including myself. He adds people on FB without them knowing his real identity. He seems to know a lot about us regular members when he continues to state he is new.

And then he has the BALLS to tell us to be careful with identity theft and networking sites.

Need I say more?

Ok, back to posting only smart-ass comebacks.



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Marky Mark wrote: Pajaro_Loco wrote: I don't trust Facebook or internet in general. Too many things can happen with one's pics and videos once it's out there. I much prefer to keep anonymous and by NOT putting anything personal that discloses my identity to the world... Too many crazy psychos out there that can use your personal info (including your Full names, DOB, pics, emails, etc) to do things that you may not like. I notice some people have their full names and full D.O.B.'s - you know how easy it would be to find out your real address with that? You know that some people can find enough info to use your personal information and use it for their purposes (i.e.: apply for credit cards, try to get your documents, etc).INTERNET IS THE DEVIL - BE CAREFUL with it!F UCK OFF ALREADY!
Holy.Never seen that side before.



It's not him - it's me (or do I mean, as Princessa would say: It's not me, it's him)
I just rub people the wrong way, I guess! Anyhow, all good 'cause I am one of those who doesn't take anything said in here personally. Besides what could he do, go to the pet store and shoot the first woodpecker he sees? biggrin



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Gringa Lahtina wrote:

I call it the Tyra Banks syndrome.  


 I no get. Please 'splain.


@ MJ: No one is insulting anyone girl. Its just everyone's two pennies.



Speaking of pennies... whats up with the ads in the subway... you know, the one about the pennies.  Are they for or against keeping the penny. It confuses me and then I ponder it all day long and I have yet to find the answer.



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@ MM, why are you lashing out on PL?

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Pajaro_Loco wrote:Chale Tanga wrote:Wheres luna? Arriba en el cielo, pero buscala cuando sale en la noche!Why is it snowing in April? It's a belated April Fool's joke!What colour goes well with tanish beige? Blak / White. Black or white GO WITH ANYTHINGWhy is pee yellow? You're not drinking enough liquids... drink more water, girl!LUNA's ouT!
Oh mang... now you know that I pee yellow pee

but wait.. isnt pee SUPPOSED to be yellow? Obviously not a dark-bordering-on-brown yellow, but it is supposed to have a healthy yellow tint no? Si? maybe?

Also... I very much agree with your other post. Thats why I didnt put up my real name/dob/sin/credit card info.. nothing! Im telling you mang, if facebook has the power to break up a relationship then it most certainly has the power to breach the freedom of information act.

 



 Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act = FIPPA

Like you - I would just much rather be on the "safer" side and not post much about myself online.  Internet is cool and has a lot of pluses: we can do research, educate, and entertain ourself to no end.  But there are those out there that are on the prowl and will try to use it in a manner to benefit themselves.  I am one to keep myself as safe from those as possible.



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Facebook is just one social networking site, yes I am implying ALL of them including YouTube.

And while you're naming foro members, you might as well add my family and close friends that are on it posting pics of their loved ones as well.

It is what it is, like you said.

And I'll stick to what I said, as I quote myself: "It allows for those who are normally insecure about their lives to become a little more self-important." That doesn't mean EVERYBODY needs validation. If you knew the guy I was referring to, then YES, HE DOES NEED VALIDATION.

Girl you take things waaaay too personally.

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Pajaro_Loco wrote: I don't trust Facebook or internet in general. Too many things can happen with one's pics and videos once it's out there. I much prefer to keep anonymous and by NOT putting anything personal that discloses my identity to the world... Too many crazy psychos out there that can use your personal info (including your Full names, DOB, pics, emails, etc) to do things that you may not like. I notice some people have their full names and full D.O.B.'s - you know how easy it would be to find out your real address with that? You know that some people can find enough info to use your personal information and use it for their purposes (i.e.: apply for credit cards, try to get your documents, etc).INTERNET IS THE DEVIL - BE CAREFUL with it!
F UCK OFF ALREADY!



  Holy.

Never seen that side before. 


@Chale:  I totally agree with you.  Everyone has their preference and if you choose to not show a pic that's cool.  Heck, I have friends on my list still with that question mark and I know they'll never put a pic but doesn't mean I'm going to be insinuating that people who post everything are hurting and are striving for self-validation.  Some people are super carefree and don't care at all.  I'm not saying that's a good idea either but I'm not going to insult people who do.

Again back to MM, I think the way I write makes it look like I'm taking it personal but I'm just defending geeks like my little brother. 



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Chale Tanga wrote:Wheres luna? Arriba en el cielo, pero buscala cuando sale en la noche!Why is it snowing in April? It's a belated April Fool's joke!What colour goes well with tanish beige? Blak / White. Black or white GO WITH ANYTHINGWhy is pee yellow? You're not drinking enough liquids... drink more water, girl!LUNA's ouT!
 



Oh mang... now you know that I pee yellow pee

but wait.. isnt pee SUPPOSED to be yellow? Obviously not a dark-bordering-on-brown yellow, but it is supposed to have a healthy yellow tint no?  Si? maybe?

Also... I very much agree with your other post.  Thats why I didnt put up my real name/dob/sin/credit card info.. nothing! Im telling you mang, if facebook has the power to break up a relationship then it most certainly has the power to breach the freedom of information act.



 



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Facebook is just one social networking site, yes I am implying ALL of them including YouTube.

And while you're naming foro members, you might as well add my family and close friends that are on it posting pics of their loved ones as well.

It is what it is, like you said.

And I'll stick to what I said, as I quote myself: "It allows for those who are normally insecure about their lives to become a little more self-important." That doesn't mean EVERYBODY needs validation. If you knew the guy I was referring to, then YES, HE DOES NEED VALIDATION.

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Pajaro_Loco wrote:I don't trust Facebook or internet in general. Too many things can happen with one's pics and videos once it's out there. I much prefer to keep anonymous and by NOT putting anything personal that discloses my identity to the world... Too many crazy psychos out there that can use your personal info (including your Full names, DOB, pics, emails, etc) to do things that you may not like. I notice some people have their full names and full D.O.B.'s - you know how easy it would be to find out your real address with that? You know that some people can find enough info to use your personal information and use it for their purposes (i.e.: apply for credit cards, try to get your documents, etc).INTERNET IS THE DEVIL - BE CAREFUL with it!
F UCK OFF ALREADY!



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Motown Junkie wrote: Exactly. I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with self-validation or wanting 15 minutes of fame!!! All of a sudden, because they post everything and anything, they're going to become famous and super popular????Did it ever occur to SOME of you that some people have a hard time meeting people, or some kids have been bullied in school and feel they have no other way to make friends?I have no clue why Facebook is being disected like this. It is what it is. Wasn't it you who posted all that drama about your ex and his wife? Didn't this all start with Facebook?

Problems like this are becoming more apparent which is why we need to disect it or at least understand the psychology behind why it's important in this day and age.

So what happens when that kid who has trouble finding friends gets cyber bullied because of Facebook?

There is nothing wrong with networking, I'm all for it. But the point of this thread is to show the dangers of such websites.



Yeah, I brought all that nonsense onto myself but I sure as hell am not going to blame it on Facebook!  My own actions got me into it.

If we're going to disect Facebook and discuss its "dangers", why not disect MySpace, or even 411.com?!  Did you know you can search for people's phone numbers on that site?  Or what about that other website, classmates.com??? 

Now we're discussing the "dangers" of Facebook when two seconds ago we were talking about people who post videos, pics and join numerous groups as if they "don't have a life".

Well, let's see.........Colombiana, maybe you should take down your pics because..........well, you have more than one up, secondly, I think you're kind of bragging that you have kids, so maybe you shouldn't post those up either, oh and the pictures with your friends?  Like Chale and Sole?  You should bring those down too.  I wouldn't want anyone to think all those photos of you are your attempt at your very own 15 minutes of fame!!!

The same goes for you too Sole!!!  No more pics of lil' man!!!!




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I don't trust Facebook or internet in general. Too many things can happen with one's pics and videos once it's out there. I much prefer to keep anonymous and by NOT putting anything personal that discloses my identity to the world... Too many crazy psychos out there that can use your personal info (including your Full names, DOB, pics, emails, etc) to do things that you may not like.
I notice some people have their full names and full D.O.B.'s - you know how easy it would be to find out your real address with that? You know that some people can find enough info to use your personal information and use it for their purposes (i.e.: apply for credit cards, try to get your documents, etc).
INTERNET IS THE DEVIL - BE CAREFUL with it!



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Wheres luna?  Arriba en el cielo, pero buscala cuando sale en la noche!

Why is it snowing in April? It's a belated April Fool's joke!

What colour goes well with tanish beige?  Blak / White.  Black or white GO WITH ANYTHING

Why is pee yellow? You're not drinking enough liquids... drink more water, girl!


 
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I don't trust Facebook or internet in general. Too many things can happen with one's pics and videos once it's out there. I much prefer to keep anonymous and by NOT putting anything personal that discloses my identity to the world... Too many crazy psychos out there that can use your personal info (including your Full names, DOB, pics, emails, etc) to do things that you may not like.
I notice some people have their full names and full D.O.B.'s - you know how easy it would be to find out your real address with that? You know that some people can find enough info to use your personal information and use it for their purposes (i.e.: apply for credit cards, try to get your documents, etc).
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Exactly. I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with self-validation or wanting 15 minutes of fame!!! All of a sudden, because they post everything and anything, they're going to become famous and super popular????

Did it ever occur to SOME of you that some people have a hard time meeting people, or some kids have been bullied in school and feel they have no other way to make friends?

I have no clue why Facebook is being disected like this. It is what it is.



okay if your only source of friendship is virtual, then that person has bigger problems. 

As for why its being disected... why not? What else is there to do on a lazy Thursday afternoon.  Why you so defensive girl? Who cares what any body posts up adn what they dont. 

Im just saying.. I PERSONALLY wouldnt do that... I have my reasons as to why I dont... and thats that.

so anyways... Im fullo in my belly. I had mcdonalds for lunch.. and now I feel guilty

Wheres luna?

Why is it snowing in April?

What colour goes well with tanish beige?

Why is pee yellow?


 



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Exactly. I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with self-validation or wanting 15 minutes of fame!!! All of a sudden, because they post everything and anything, they're going to become famous and super popular????

Did it ever occur to SOME of you that some people have a hard time meeting people, or some kids have been bullied in school and feel they have no other way to make friends?

I have no clue why Facebook is being disected like this. It is what it is.



Wasn't it you who posted all that drama about your ex and his wife? Didn't this all start with Facebook?

Problems like this are becoming more apparent which is why we need to disect it or at least understand the psychology behind why it's important in this day and age.

So what happens when that kid who has trouble finding friends gets cyber bullied because of Facebook?

There is nothing wrong with networking, I'm all for it. But the point of this thread is to show the dangers of such websites.

 



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ly. I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with self-validation or wanting 15 minutes of fame!!! All of a sudden, because they post everything and anything, they're going to become famous and super popular????




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Chale Tanga wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: Yeah but how does it affect any of you if someone wants to post a thousand pics of themselves, their family, their dogs, their house.........who cares??!!!! it doesnt girl... it doesnt affect anyone. I personally wouldnt post a lot of pictures of myself ... thats just me though. I've seen what some a$$es have done with other peoples pictures (not talking about the photchop ones, cuz those are priceless ) and also i just dont feel the need to post everything abuot myself on a public forum or interweb space.I am with you here Chale.... That is why I only posted one picture of me..... But I will take it away soon.....

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Motown Junkie wrote: Yeah but how does it affect any of you if someone wants to post a thousand pics of themselves, their family, their dogs, their house.........who cares??!!!!
 it doesnt girl... it doesnt affect anyone.  I personally wouldnt post a lot of pictures of myself ... thats just me though.  I've seen what some a$$es have done with other peoples pictures (not talking about the photchop ones, cuz those are priceless ) and also i just dont feel the need to post everything abuot myself on a public forum or interweb space.


I am with you here Chale.... That is why I only posted one picture of me..... But I will take it away soon.....

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Marky Mark wrote: Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad about having a profile but I know this one guy I haven't seen since we were kids and all he does is add friends and join groups and post pics and vids of his family. It's like he doesn't have a life, or at least wants everyone to know that he does (which is ironic, no?).Yah.. that to me is kinda sad.  But whatever, I guess everyone is different and has different comfort levels when it comes to how much they are wililng to share of themselves.

Truth be said, i joined facebook b/c everyone and their mama was on it.. so I figured I'd be a sheep and follow the crowd... but flip guy, EVERYTHING you do is sent out to everyone else.  Im afraid to pick my nose while I have that browser screen open for fear that a mass message will be posted on everyones page that Im digging for gold.





Exactly.  I don't think it has ANYTHING to do with self-validation or wanting 15 minutes of fame!!!  All of a sudden, because they post everything and anything, they're going to become famous and super popular????

Did it ever occur to SOME of you that some people have a hard time meeting people, or some kids have been bullied in school and feel they have no other way to make friends?

I have no clue why Facebook is being disected like this.  It is what it is. 



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Yeah but how does it affect any of you if someone wants to post a thousand pics of themselves, their family, their dogs, their house.........who cares??!!!!


 it doesnt girl... it doesnt affect anyone.  I personally wouldnt post a lot of pictures of myself ... thats just me though.  I've seen what some a$$es have done with other peoples pictures (not talking about the photchop ones, cuz those are priceless ) and also i just dont feel the need to post everything abuot myself on a public forum or interweb space.





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Marky Mark wrote:Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad about having a profile but I know this one guy I haven't seen since we were kids and all he does is add friends and join groups and post pics and vids of his family. It's like he doesn't have a life, or at least wants everyone to know that he does (which is ironic, no?).Yah.. that to me is kinda sad. But whatever, I guess everyone is different and has different comfort levels when it comes to how much they are wililng to share of themselves.

Truth be said, i joined facebook b/c everyone and their mama was on it.. so I figured I'd be a sheep and follow the crowd... but flip guy, EVERYTHING you do is sent out to everyone else. Im afraid to pick my nose while I have that browser screen open for fear that a mass message will be posted on everyones page that Im digging for gold.


 



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Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad about having a profile but I know this one guy I haven't seen since we were kids and all he does is add friends and join groups and post pics and vids of his family. It's like he doesn't have a life, or at least wants everyone to know that he does (which is ironic, no?).


Yah.. that to me is kinda sad.  But whatever, I guess everyone is different and has different comfort levels when it comes to how much they are wililng to share of themselves.

Truth be said, i joined facebook b/c everyone and their mama was on it.. so I figured I'd be a sheep and follow the crowd... but flip guy, EVERYTHING you do is sent out to everyone else.  Im afraid to pick my nose while I have that browser screen open for fear that a mass message will be posted on everyones page that Im digging for gold.


 



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Yeah but how does it affect any of you if someone wants to post a thousand pics of themselves, their family, their dogs, their house.........who cares??!!!!

Newsflash: This is not about you. This is just for discussion purposes.

 



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Yeah but how does it affect any of you if someone wants to post a thousand pics of themselves, their family, their dogs, their house.........who cares??!!!!

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Hey guys, check this link out. If nothing else, it's just interesting.

http://albumoftheday.com/facebook/

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@ MM: never thought about it that way.. but its true... self validation and your 15 mins of fame. Thats sad... I think Imma delete my portfolio



Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad about having a profile but I know this one guy I haven't seen since we were kids and all he does is add friends and join groups and post pics and vids of his family. It's like he doesn't have a life, or at least wants everyone to know that he does (which is ironic, no?).

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My Facebook profile is only to keep in touch with my friends. Only the people on my friends list can see my profile and some that are on my list can only see a very limited profile (those are my co-workers and boss) Besides that, i don't post anything personal on my FB profile.But i know what you mean. A co-worker of mine was telling me yesterday about a drama that unfolded which was the cause of Facebook. A friend of hers had a profile on FB. Her Ex found out and started snooping around her profile etc.. which led to some big issues and has made her custody battle more of a mess. Anyhoo, that's one issue of the many that i heard of

up until the last part I thought you were talking about someone else.  Damn, guess that facebook really is el diablo


@ MM: never thought about it that way.. but its true... self validation and your 15 mins of fame.  Thats sad... I think Imma delete my portfolio

 



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My Facebook profile is only to keep in touch with my friends. Only the people on my friends list can see my profile and some that are on my list can only see a very limited profile (those are my co-workers and boss) Besides that, i don't post anything personal on my FB profile.But i know what you mean. A co-worker of mine was telling me yesterday about a drama that unfolded which was the cause of Facebook. A friend of hers had a profile on FB. Her Ex found out and started snooping around her profile etc.. which led to some big issues and has made her custody battle more of a mess. Anyhoo, that's one issue of the many that i heard of


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My Facebook profile is only to keep in touch with my friends. Only the people on my friends list can see my profile and some that are on my list can only see a very limited profile (those are my co-workers and boss) Besides that, i don't post anything personal on my FB profile.

But i know what you mean. A co-worker of mine was telling me yesterday about a drama that unfolded which was the cause of Facebook. A friend of hers had a profile on FB. Her Ex found out and started snooping around her profile etc.. which led to some big issues and has made her custody battle more of a mess.

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Marky Mark wrote:This i believe is the key to all of these networking sites: self-validation. It allows for those who are normally insecure about their lives to become a little more self-important. They are giving themselves the 15 minutes of fame that no one else would have without such networks.I'm pretty secure with myself that I don't need to let everyone know every little thing I do or think. Hell, I need some me time too! That being said, I just like finding people I've lost touch with and see what they're up to these days. But now I'm bored with them too. The first part totally makes sense.

The part I highlighted, it's kinda like songs on your iPod, isn't it? hmm 

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This i believe is the key to all of these networking sites: self-validation. It allows for those who are normally insecure about their lives to become a little more self-important. They are giving themselves the 15 minutes of fame that no one else would have without such networks.I'm pretty secure with myself that I don't need to let everyone know every little thing I do or think. Hell, I need some me time too! That being said, I just like finding people I've lost touch with and see what they're up to these days. But now I'm bored with them too.
The first part totally makes sense.

The part I highlighted, it's kinda like songs on your iPod, isn't it? hmm

 



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Gringa Lahtina wrote:

Why the need to feed the details of ones life to the internet? Does it somehow provide you with self-validation? Is it because it makes every party, every fight, every insight worth publishing?



This i believe is the key to all of these networking sites: self-validation. It allows for those who are normally insecure about their lives to become a little more self-important.

They are giving themselves the 15 minutes of fame that no one else would have without such networks.

I'm pretty secure with myself that I don't need to let everyone know every little thing I do or think. Hell, I need some me time too!

That being said, I just like finding people I've lost touch with and see what they're up to these days. But now I'm bored with them too.

 



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Well, I'd be lying if I said I didn't like to pry in other's life but I'm a big lazy bum when it comes to that. If info comes my way... if it doesn't, the person would have to have been mighty important in my life for me to make an effort and "investigate". And, because spreading the gossip also requires some effort, it's gotta be "good stuff" for me to pass it on.

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Naturally, I disagree.

If you don't care to share one ounce of your personal life with anyone, that's cool.  To eaches own.

However, there are some people who don't care.   

People will only give as much information as they care to share.


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Guadalupana wrote:

So, chale, you're saying that you would rather breathe all tha nasty stuff into your system?! i want to know!


 me no understandy.... please, you wanting to explain please.



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So, chale, you're saying that you would rather breathe all tha nasty stuff into your system?! i want to know!

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So while it may have originally been intended for keeping track of acquaintances, sharing photos, and basically reconnecting with every person we've met since childhood, it really lends itself for more nefarious purposes such as stalking or homewrecking

This is pretty much a summary of the article I briefly mentioned yesterday. The person who wrote it uses it to stalk the people who tormented her in highschool. She admits to being a shameless snoop. The lack of her nemeses' success filling her with petty glee.

Is Facebook turning people into a generation of voyeurs? There would be no impulse to spy though if it weren't for the thousands of "exhibitionists" ready to fill the demand. Why the need to feed the details of ones life to the internet? Does it somehow provide you with self-validation? Is it because it makes every party, every fight, every insight worth publishing?

Where do YOU draw the line between the private and the public spheres of your life? As I have learned in the past few weeks, some pople know nothing about discretion.



 I concur.

As a wise man once told me:  "I dont need to know everytime que someone se tira un pedo"

Truely a wise and insightful man. 



I dont post up anything that is personal to me or mine... I dont think that everyone needs to know every aspect of my life on the net.  If youre close to me, you'll know whats going on through me, not through myspace, myface, pedoface.. whatever.



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sure.

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Guadalupana wrote:

GL- that which you ask, is how can i put it....none of your business.

Exactly!

Call me crazy but I still treasure the right to have some control over whom I choose to make part of my business.

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GL- that which you ask, is how can i put it....none of your business.

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Can you re-phrase the question?

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So while it may have originally been intended for keeping track of acquaintances, sharing photos, and basically reconnecting with every person we've met since childhood, it really lends itself for more nefarious purposes such as stalking or homewrecking

This is pretty much a summary of the article I briefly mentioned yesterday. The person who wrote it uses it to stalk the people who tormented her in highschool. She admits to being a shameless snoop. The lack of her nemeses' success filling her with petty glee.

Is Facebook turning people into a generation of voyeurs? There would be no impulse to spy though if it weren't for the thousands of "exhibitionists" ready to fill the demand. Why the need to feed the details of ones life to the internet? Does it somehow provide you with self-validation? Is it because it makes every party, every fight, every insight worth publishing?
 
Where do YOU draw the line between the private and the public spheres of your life? As I have learned in the past few weeks, some pople know nothing about discretion.

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