Motown Junkie wrote: luna chiquitita wrote: X4v13r wrote: PRINCESSA wrote:I think I would have a hard, hard, hard time accepting it, but untill & if so I'm in those shoes, I don't think I can handle it properly. :sad:what if u had a gay boyfriend?just asking ~Xu're not helping the rumours That would explain why she went on a cruise by herself!!!!
luna chiquitita wrote: X4v13r wrote: PRINCESSA wrote:I think I would have a hard, hard, hard time accepting it, but untill & if so I'm in those shoes, I don't think I can handle it properly. :sad:what if u had a gay boyfriend?just asking ~Xu're not helping the rumours
That would explain why she went on a cruise by herself!!!!
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luna chiquitita wrote: X4v13r wrote:PRINCESSA wrote:I think I would have a hard, hard, hard time accepting it, but untill & if so I'm in those shoes, I don't think I can handle it properly. :sad:what if u had a gay boyfriend?just asking ~Xu're not helping the rumours
X4v13r wrote: PRINCESSA wrote:I think I would have a hard, hard, hard time accepting it, but untill & if so I'm in those shoes, I don't think I can handle it properly. :sad:
PRINCESSA wrote: I think I would have a hard, hard, hard time accepting it, but untill & if so I'm in those shoes, I don't think I can handle it properly. :sad:
Chale Tanga wrote: luna chiquitita wrote: @ Genie you make very valid points but i was in no way referring to homosexuality as a handicap. I think you misunderstood my point or maybe I didn't articulate myself very well. I must say I didn't quite understand what you meant by "coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life" Are you assuming that I'm this huge homophobe and I'm unaware of the Pride parade which is a HUGE social staple of Toronto every summer or that I'm unaware of successful lesbian and gay people? Are you assuming that I do not associate myself with gay people? Maybe the one who has misunderstood is me Regardless, that assumption is very irresponsible and ignorant in itself.Being gay is widely accepted and is no longer a taboo subject that people do not choose to discuss BUT there are several ppl that are still very closed minded on the subject and do NOT accept or have trouble accepting homosexuality. Mainly due to their own insecurities or ignorance. Coming from a culture that is very "macho", I think yes, there would be some obstacles and hurdles and to be honest, I think they would start within family and friends (they too do form a part of society). At the end of the day, my kids are my kids and as I said before, I would love them but support them but it would break my heart because they would face difficulties. Maybe you should ask your gay friends how easy or difficult it was for them to "come out" . The "few" gay ppl I associate myself with are STILL struggling to discuss it with their families.... hmm... I wonder why -- Edited by luna chiquitita at 10:59, 2007-03-30Extremely valid points and very well articulated girl.
Gay people in our society have an extremely hard time... and as Gringrin Latina said, they do have a lot more freedoms and rights now than they did say 50 yeas ago, but they are still struggling within our 'closed minded' society.
Gay people go through a lot of emotional turmoil with accepting who they are and also with their surrounding environment.
I work near gayville and even today I see people stairing at gay couples with a sense of uneasyness and discomfort. People are still adjusting to the homosexual community, and they are still struggling to accept them.
Gay people have a very hard time when it comes to addoption and marriages, even with just applying to be 'big brother/sister' (trust me I know, b/c I work in this line of government). Its a big challenge for homosexuals to do anything 'normal' in our community... it takes double the effort for them.
Anywhore, very well put Luna. I agree.
You both make me so proud. :sheddingatear: I don't know why, 'cause I'm in no way related to you, but jes, chu do make me proud.
Add to all that AIDS and HIV and religion and you have one hell of a cross for homosexuals. It's a hard knock life for them. However, I think it's a hard knock life for everyone. That's just their lot in life.
luna chiquitita wrote: @ Genie you make very valid points but i was in no way referring to homosexuality as a handicap. I think you misunderstood my point or maybe I didn't articulate myself very well. I must say I didn't quite understand what you meant by "coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life" Are you assuming that I'm this huge homophobe and I'm unaware of the Pride parade which is a HUGE social staple of Toronto every summer or that I'm unaware of successful lesbian and gay people? Are you assuming that I do not associate myself with gay people? Maybe the one who has misunderstood is me Regardless, that assumption is very irresponsible and ignorant in itself.
Being gay is widely accepted and is no longer a taboo subject that people do not choose to discuss BUT there are several ppl that are still very closed minded on the subject and do NOT accept or have trouble accepting homosexuality. Mainly due to their own insecurities or ignorance. Coming from a culture that is very "macho", I think yes, there would be some obstacles and hurdles and to be honest, I think they would start within family and friends (they too do form a part of society). At the end of the day, my kids are my kids and as I said before, I would love them but support them but it would break my heart because they would face difficulties. Maybe you should ask your gay friends how easy or difficult it was for them to "come out" . The "few" gay ppl I associate myself with are STILL struggling to discuss it with their families.... hmm... I wonder why
-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 10:59, 2007-03-30
Extremely valid points and very well articulated girl.
Gay people in our society have an extremely hard time... and as Gringrin Latina said, they do have a lot more freedoms and rights now than they did say 50 yeas ago, but they are still struggling within our 'closed minded' society.
Gay people go through a lot of emotional turmoil with accepting who they are and also with their surrounding environment.
I work near gayville and even today I see people stairing at gay couples with a sense of uneasyness and discomfort. People are still adjusting to the homosexual community, and they are still struggling to accept them.
Gay people have a very hard time when it comes to addoption and marriages, even with just applying to be 'big brother/sister' (trust me I know, b/c I work in this line of government). Its a big challenge for homosexuals to do anything 'normal' in our community... it takes double the effort for them.
luna chiquitita wrote: @ Genie you make very valid points but i was in no way referring to homosexuality as a handicap. I think you misunderstood my point or maybe I didn't articulate myself very well. I must say I didn't quite understand what you meant by "coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life" Are you assuming that I'm this huge homophobe and I'm unaware of the Pride parade which is a HUGE social staple of Toronto every summer or that I'm unaware of successful lesbian and gay people? Are you assuming that I do not associate myself with gay people? Maybe the one who has misunderstood is me Regardless, that assumption is very irresponsible and ignorant in itself.
Being gay is widely accepted and is no longer a taboo subject that people do not choose to discuss BUT there are several ppl that are still very closed minded on the subject and do NOT accept or have trouble accepting homosexuality. Mainly due to their own insecurities or ignorance. Coming from a culture that is very "macho", I think yes, there would be some obstacles and hurdles and to be honest, I think they would start within family and friends (they too do form a part of society). At the end of the day, my kids are my kids and as I said before, I would love them but support them but it would break my heart because they would face difficulties. Maybe you should ask your gay friends how easy or difficult it was for them to "come out" . The "few" gay ppl I associate myself with are STILL struggling to discuss it with their families.... hmm... I wonder why
-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 10:59, 2007-03-30
I wont go into any further cuz it will just go nowhere (on my part) and I have not assumed any of that i simply stated that you made it seem like a disability but thats how i took at no point have i tried or even made it seem like i was insulting you personaly! and the rest well ill just let it be u have ur opinions i have mine!
@ Genie you make very valid points but i was in no way referring to homosexuality as a handicap. I think you misunderstood my point or maybe I didn't articulate myself very well. I must say I didn't quite understand what you meant by "coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life" Are you assuming that I'm this huge homophobe and I'm unaware of the Pride parade which is a HUGE social staple of Toronto every summer or that I'm unaware of successful lesbian and gay people? Are you assuming that I do not associate myself with gay people? Maybe the one who has misunderstood is me Regardless, that assumption is very irresponsible and ignorant in itself.
Being gay is widely accepted and is no longer a taboo subject that people do not choose to discuss BUT there are several ppl that are still very closed minded on the subject and do NOT accept or have trouble accepting homosexuality. Mainly due to their own insecurities or ignorance. Coming from a culture that is very "macho", I think yes, there would be some obstacles and hurdles and to be honest, I think they would start within family and friends (they too do form a part of society). At the end of the day, my kids are my kids and as I said before, I would love them but support them but it would break my heart because they would face difficulties. Maybe you should ask your gay friends how easy or difficult it was for them to "come out" . The "few" gay ppl I associate myself with are STILL struggling to discuss it with their families.... hmm... I wonder why
latinsoulchild wrote: Jaime Cruz wrote: Damn!!! Poor parentsThat must hurt deep down inside. ...you're right...that must hurt deep down inside their tracero....
GENIE wrote: ok i have an issue with you post!! 1 being what do u mean Accepted?? Did you that the gay community has the biggest support not to mention most gay men hold huge huge positions in corporate america and canada!! You statement would of made more sense back in the day but now a days Gay ppl are more "accepted" the only restrictions they have in some countries is getting married but other then that there is no obsticles! I mean coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life how unaccepted are they if they have the power to close down downtown toronto for a Parade?? how accepted to they have to be if they practically own a whole street am i mistaken in saying that 90% of Church street is gay ppl and not only that but there allowed to adopt and have kids i mean how are they not "accepted" you make it sound like a handicap! and your right i dont have kids but im sure if any of my kids turned out to be gay as long as they are not a gay prostitue hey great for them will i be hurt nope will i be dissappointed nope! will i love them yes will accept there partner yes (as long as there not a diva) lol lol but maybe i read your post way out of context but thats my two cents
As a group, yes Genie, maybe, they certainly have more rights than say 50 years ago. But on an individual basis, gay people are discriminated, picked on, ridiculed -you name it! And there's no denying that.
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Deep down inside I probably would be a bit... disappointed but I'd live with it. And you know... recent studies indicate that homosexual behaviour has a strong genetic component or so my book says.
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luna chiquitita wrote: @ Julie... DAYUM! must be something in the water!
um.. i'd love them and accept them but i think i would be upset. Heart broken, even. It boils down to wanting them to be accepted in society. I would not want them to have to jump through hoops or obstacles just because their sexual preference isn't the norm. Shoot gorrillas have better rights than gay ppl do
ok i have an issue with you post!! 1 being what do u mean Accepted?? Did you that the gay community has the biggest support not to mention most gay men hold huge huge positions in corporate america and canada!! You statement would of made more sense back in the day but now a days Gay ppl are more "accepted" the only restrictions they have in some countries is getting married but other then that there is no obsticles! I mean coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life how unaccepted are they if they have the power to close down downtown toronto for a Parade?? how accepted to they have to be if they practically own a whole street am i mistaken in saying that 90% of Church street is gay ppl and not only that but there allowed to adopt and have kids i mean how are they not "accepted" you make it sound like a handicap! and your right i dont have kids but im sure if any of my kids turned out to be gay as long as they are not a gay prostitue hey great for them will i be hurt nope will i be dissappointed nope! will i love them yes will accept there partner yes (as long as there not a diva) lol lol but maybe i read your post way out of context but thats my two cents
luna chiquitita wrote: @ Julie... DAYUM! must be something in the water!
um.. i'd love them and accept them but i think i would be upset. Heart broken, even. It boils down to wanting them to be accepted in society. I would not want them to have to jump through hoops or obstacles just because their sexual preference isn't the norm. Shoot gorrillas have better rights than gay ppl do
luna chiquitita wrote: @ Julie... DAYUM! must be something in the water!
Yeah, I know this Italian guy and he and his only brother are gayer than gay... like really flamboyant gay. I never asked him what his parents thought of that. But he's the sweetest, funniest guy. If they didn't accept them, it was their loss.
Me? I'd love them no matter what. Didn't you guys ever see Will and Grace? Out of the three boys Will's mother had, Will was her favourite, the more sensitive and the nicest to her.
um.. i'd love them and accept them but i think i would be upset. Heart broken, even. It boils down to wanting them to be accepted in society. I would not want them to have to jump through hoops or obstacles just because their sexual preference isn't the norm. Shoot gorrillas have better rights than gay ppl do
I'll be totally honest. If I had 1 kid and he/she turned out to be gay I would accept it. If the second one turned out to be gay too I wouldn't be too pleased. But I wouldn't let it show. They are my kids and I would love them regardless.
You get married and have 2, 3 or more children and they all grow up and become Gay. Would you be disappointed? Would you move to a place far, far away where nobody knows your name? Or would you accept it without out any problems and continue to live as normal as ever?
That would explain why she went on a cruise by herself!!!! 
Well I would have to cut ur Balls.
you make very valid points but i was in no way referring to homosexuality as a handicap. I think you misunderstood my point or maybe I didn't articulate myself very well. I must say I didn't quite understand what you meant by "coming from someone whos been around gay men all her life" Are you assuming that I'm this huge homophobe and I'm unaware of the Pride parade which is a HUGE social staple of Toronto every summer or that I'm unaware of successful lesbian and gay people? Are you assuming that I do not associate myself with gay people? Maybe the one who has misunderstood is me 
Regardless, that assumption is very irresponsible and ignorant in itself.Being gay is widely accepted and is no longer a taboo subject that people do not choose to discuss BUT there are several ppl that are still very closed minded on the subject and do NOT accept or have trouble accepting homosexuality. Mainly due to their own insecurities or ignorance. Coming from a culture that is very "macho", I think yes, there would be some obstacles and hurdles and to be honest, I think they would start within family and friends (they too do form a part of society). At the end of the day, my kids are my kids and as I said before, I would love them but support them but it would break my heart because they would face difficulties. Maybe you should ask your gay friends how easy or difficult it was for them to "come out" . The "few" gay ppl I associate myself with are STILL struggling to discuss it with their families.... hmm... I wonder why 
-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 10:59, 2007-03-30Extremely valid points and very well articulated girl. 
Damn!!! Poor parents
That must hurt deep down inside. ...you're right...that must hurt deep down inside their tracero....
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It boils down to wanting them to be accepted in society. I would not want them to have to jump through hoops or obstacles just because their sexual preference isn't the norm. Shoot gorrillas have better rights than gay ppl do 
