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MJ--to feed the maggots of course!

NO MAGGOTS!!!!!!!  NO MAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!  NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOO MMMMMMMAAAAGGGGOOOOOOTTTTTTSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! 

I'm either getting placed in a freakin' wall (Facebook?? - lol) or my ashes blasted into space!!!! 


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MJ--to feed the maggots of course!

NO MAGGOTS!!!!!!!  NO MAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!  NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOO MMMMMMMAAAAGGGGOOOOOOTTTTTTSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! 

I'm either getting placed in a freakin' wall (Facebook?? - lol) or my ashes blasted into space!!!! 


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MJ--to feed the maggots of course!

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GL--- yes i am. But right now i'm using the hell out of them.


I am too!  I figured, "What the hell do I need 'em for after I die?!" 



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GL--- yes i am. But right now i'm using the hell out of them.

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These stats are from 2001 (couldn't find any current stuff) but I thought it was interesting:

"Last year alone, 147 Canadians died while waiting for organs that never came because suitable donors were not found in time. Part of the problem lies with Canada having one of the lowest organ donation rates among industrialised nations. There are fewer than 14 donors per million people in this country, as compared with more than 31 in Spain. What's more, the gap between transplant patients on waiting lists and numbers of available organs is widening."


Are you an organ donor?

 

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/organfarm/rights/controversy.html

My eyes, my eeeeeeeeyes!!!! Oh, my heart, my poor little human heart!!

For the sake of science? If anyone cares to go to the  link and read a baboon's lab records.


F@CK!!!  WHY DO I EVEN LOOK AT THESE THINGS????  WWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY?????????? 




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Gringa Lahtina wrote:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/organfarm/rights/controversy.html

My eyes, my eeeeeeeeyes!!!! Oh, my heart, my poor little human heart!!

For the sake of science? If anyone cares to go to the  link and read a baboon's lab records.


F@CK!!!  WHY DO I EVEN LOOK AT THESE THINGS????  WWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY?????????? 



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that is wrong.
I didn't read it all, but what i understood from what i did was that the testing was for testing sakes.

Poor thing

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/organfarm/rights/controversy.html

My eyes, my eeeeeeeeyes!!!! Oh, my heart, my poor little human heart!!

For the sake of science? If anyone cares to go to the  link and read a baboon's lab records.

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What about genetically altering humans and animals so to reduce the possibility of organ rejection?

Aaaaaaaaaaand xenotransplantation also means risk of viruses breaking the species barrier. We already have plenty of those: mad-cow, HIV, ebola, bird flu, etc. Is it fair to put others at risk?

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Then it's survival of the fittest at it's best! i say keep testing!!

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Extinct? Us? WE'RE the cockroaches of the world.

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Gringa Lahtina wrote:



Oh and does it suck that thousands of monkeys, chimpanzees and baboons (I hate baboons) have been experimented on and killed in the course of this cross-species transplant research? I think yes.



 Yes, but what if they didn't test? or had nothing to test it on? we would have probably been extinct long ago.
I don't know. But one thing i do know, is that i'm all for science.



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Oh yeah... the pig boobs. Well, it seems that they use pig skin or tissue or something (sorry, I can't find the stupid page where I read it anymore) but they use some kind of pig stuff for breast implants to reduce the risk of muscle hardening around the implants or something something along those lines. Ok, as much as I wouldn't go for this kind of procedure (xenotransplantation not senotransplantation), I think that in a life or death matter situation I wouldn't condemn it but when it's for the sake of "beauty" PHOOEY!

Oh and does it suck that thousands of monkeys, chimpanzees and baboons (I hate baboons) have been experimented on and killed in the course of this cross-species transplant research? I think yes.

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Who knows. Yes when your mumber is up.....bla bla bla..... but what if we are talking about kids or parents etc.....

If it could give me chance, I'll take it.

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Cool cover!!! 




Looks like the lady on the cover has pig skin



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Instead of dying if i didn't? I'd probably take it. They'd be even cheaper.

-- Edited by Guadalupana at 15:19, 2007-03-05

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@ LahTi... where's the pig booby post you promised?  Dogo needs to know!


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for anyone interested about this subject, do check out



Sharpe, Lesley A.: Strange Harvest, organ transplants, denatured bodies and the transformed self, University of California Press, 2006

as for whether I'd do it or not... you see, it was not that long ago that many of us might have found human in vitro fertilisation quite a bit off the mark. You know, concerns about body pollution, donor identity... This was particularly the case because back then there weren't nearly as good biotechnological tools for assesing the usability of donated sperm, so we don't worry and the pollution concern is also gone.

I am aware we're not talking about the same thing, but what I'm trying to say is, time changes the way we perceive what's around us. With people already receiving, and in not small numbers, say, heart valves from pigs -and for what it looks, they work- it might not take too long before we get used to the "oh sure, we could get you a liver from a pig" line will become more and more normalized.

So I might just find myself saying yes. Who knows.


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Gringa Lahtina wrote:

Oh, it will actually involve boobies... I'll post later.


Pigs boobies are way too small... on the bright side, you get a set of eight



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Oh, it will actually involve boobies... I'll post later.

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Hell yeah!!! I'd put a pig's tail on my forehead if it meant the difference between life and death!

BTW, watchu mean "when you're time is up, it's up"? so you would take no type of medical treatment, if your "time is up"? aren't MANY animals ALREADY being sacrificed to save our lives? (research, etc)... What's the diff?!.... yo


BTWII: I thought this thread was about boobie transplants (you know... as in "seno")

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It's ok.
I think I know a bit too much with your midget loving, used panty wearing and sniffing, hampster peen, sex changing, porn addiction, and toe eating issues




 



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luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

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Jaime Cruz wrote:

luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me.

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.



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I did not see it. I just heard about it. It was difficult for PL to talk about it, but PL got the Hampster peen from a very generous Foro member. This generous member is very humble and does not wish too be named, so without giving away names we'll call the member Little moon.
God bless you Luna...errr Little Moon




so much for foro privacy

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I think I said too much



you know what?!!! You're sooooo off my "secrets holder" list!




It's ok.
I think I know a bit too much with your midget loving, used panty wearing and sniffing, hampster peen, sex changing, porn addiction, and toe eating issues
 



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You people really need to stop projecting yourselves.

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luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me. 

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.



   That's what i read as well!!!



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Jaime Cruz wrote:

X4v13r wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me.

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.



Foro chismosos
I did not see it. I just heard about it. It was difficult for PL to talk about it, but PL got the Hampster peen from a very generous Foro member. This generous member is very humble and does not wish too be named, so without giving away names we'll call the member Little moon.
God bless you Luna...errr Little Moon




so much for foro privacy

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I think I said too much



you know what?!!! You're sooooo off my "secrets holder" list!

 



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duck's lips
snail's wee-wee
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and flamingo's feet...





I am so hot for your right now

 



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X4v13r wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me. 

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.



Foro chismosos
I did not see it. I just heard about it. It was difficult for PL to talk about it, but PL got the Hampster peen from a very generous Foro member. This generous member is very humble and does not wish too be named, so without giving away names we'll call the member Little moon.
God bless you Luna...errr Little Moon




so much for foro privacy

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I think I said too much



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Jaime Cruz wrote:

luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me. 

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.



Foro chismosos
I did not see it. I just heard about it. It was difficult for PL to talk about it, but PL got the Hampster peen from a very generous Foro member. This generous member is very humble and does not wish too be named, so without giving away names we'll call the member Little moon.
God bless you Luna...errr Little Moon




so much for foro privacy

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luna chiquitita wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me. 

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.



Foro chismosos
I did not see it. I just heard about it. It was difficult for PL to talk about it, but PL got the Hampster peen from a very generous Foro member. This generous member is very humble and does not wish too be named, so without giving away names we'll call the member Little moon.
God bless you Luna...errr Little Moon



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I would like to have oyster's fingers

duck's lips
snail's wee-wee
croccodile's skin
and flamingo's feet...





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Jaime Cruz wrote:

If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




when I first read this I thought you said you would do a pig in a heart beat.... which when it comes to you, doesn't surprise me. 

So umm.. X tells me PL has a hamster peen and you've seen it first hand.

 



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"I wouldn't want to sacrifice an animal's life for my own." What a frigging hypocrite! What the hell am I saying? I eat pork, chicken, beef and all these other little creatures. I don't know... this, somehow, seems a bit different. Bah... I don't know what I would do.


I forgot about that.  Ok, I agree.  When it's your time, it's your time!!

Plus I've got my dad waiting for me, what the hell would I wanna stick around here for???  FORO??????!!!!!!!!!!!!  bah 

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"I wouldn't want to sacrifice an animal's life for my own." What a frigging hypocrite! What the hell am I saying? I eat pork, chicken, beef and all these other little creatures. I don't know... this, somehow, seems a bit different. Bah... I don't know what I would do.

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Yeah, I think I would if I didn't really have a choice. 

I remember reading that they use pigs to study the stages of decomposition because they're very similar. 



well, u have to say that now that u have un pico



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I have to say what now??? 

Anyway, I just got off the phone with my mom and she called you some not so nice words which was quite funny cause I find when Colombians swear to be hilarious.

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If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




You're already a pig, sweetheart.

 



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I'll post more on the matter later because I have to research it for class anyway. It's sooooooooooo interesting but it raises so many issues. Anyway, gotta go for now. But I think I'd chose death. When your number is up, it's up. I wouldn't want to sacrife an animal's life for mine.

-- Edited by Gringa Lahtina at 16:05, 2007-03-02

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If it's a matter of life and death I would do so in a pig's heart beat




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Yeah, I think I would if I didn't really have a choice. 

I remember reading that they use pigs to study the stages of decomposition because they're very similar. 



well, u have to say that now that u have un pico



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ask PJ, he got a wee-wee from a hamster

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you make it too easy my fine feathered friend... but exactly how would you know PL (not PJ) has a hamster peen?



that I leave it to JC to answer, hes the one with all the info.

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Yeah, I think I would if I didn't really have a choice. 

I remember reading that they use pigs to study the stages of decomposition because they're very similar. 

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Pajaro_Loco wrote:

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Xenotransplantation is the transplantation of living cells, tissues or organs from one species to another such as from pigs to humans.

Because there is a worldwide shortage of organs for clinical transplantation about 60% of patients needing new organs die on the waiting list. To address this shortage, scientists and biotechnology companies are developing an alternative source of organs: animals. Primates such as baboons or chimpanzees are poor candidates as organ donors not only because they are an endangered species but because they harbor viruses (such as HIV) that may cause disease in humans. Most attention is focused on using a strain of mini-pigs developed over 30 years ago as organ donors. These pigs have major organs that are about the size of those of adult humans and have a similar physiology.

While researching this topic, I found out that pig skin is actually used (transplanted) to treat burn victims because the pig's skin is similar to human skin. Anyway, there's a lot more on the subject but I thought I'd spare yuz the reading but my question to you is...

WOULD YOU ACCEPT AN ORGAN FROM AN ANIMAL?





ask PJ, he got a wee-wee from a hamster

~X


If you're referring to Pajaro Loco, it's PL, brodah!  Didn't you get the memo the first 15 times?
Apparently they used another part from the same hamster to transplant to YOU... it's BRAIN!  and that must have been a very DUMB hamster with a very large penis!



sorry PJ not buying it.......that thing u call a "large penis" is not ur penis, is ur finger holding ur small wee-wee

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you make it too easy my fine feathered friend... but exactly how would you know PL (not PJ) has a hamster peen?

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WOULD YOU ACCEPT AN ORGAN FROM AN ANIMAL?

Head. About. To. Explode. so. many. disses. so. little. time.

ok.. so when I first read the thread name, I thought you were going to preach about the wonders of Xenu and Scientology but alas, you have posted an interesting topic about animal transplants instead.

So to answer your question, I don't know.  I don't think so but what if I was about to die and my choices were death or a pig's heart.    I don't think I'd be choosing death and for as much jokes as Foro peeps will probably respond to that, the truth of the matter is, when faced with death, one would go to extreme measures in order to preserve life.

What would you do Lahti?

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X4v13r wrote:

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Xenotransplantation is the transplantation of living cells, tissues or organs from one species to another such as from pigs to humans.

Because there is a worldwide shortage of organs for clinical transplantation about 60% of patients needing new organs die on the waiting list. To address this shortage, scientists and biotechnology companies are developing an alternative source of organs: animals. Primates such as baboons or chimpanzees are poor candidates as organ donors not only because they are an endangered species but because they harbor viruses (such as HIV) that may cause disease in humans. Most attention is focused on using a strain of mini-pigs developed over 30 years ago as organ donors. These pigs have major organs that are about the size of those of adult humans and have a similar physiology.

While researching this topic, I found out that pig skin is actually used (transplanted) to treat burn victims because the pig's skin is similar to human skin. Anyway, there's a lot more on the subject but I thought I'd spare yuz the reading but my question to you is...

WOULD YOU ACCEPT AN ORGAN FROM AN ANIMAL?





ask PJ, he got a wee-wee from a hamster

~X


If you're referring to Pajaro Loco, it's PL, brodah!  Didn't you get the memo the first 15 times?
Apparently they used another part from the same hamster to transplant to YOU... it's BRAIN!  and that must have been a very DUMB hamster with a very large penis!


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