LaDyBuG wrote: A lot of my friends who have kids.......(parents of now in days I mean).....attempt to put their kids in acting, modeling, dancing, singing, music....etc.....just so one day the kid can bring the pay cheque home.....
DISCUSS.....
Now THAT I think is sooo wrong. I don't think parents should encourage kids (like poor Britney) expecting them to be successful so they can exploit them after, and parents SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER EVER try to fulfill their own dreams through their kids, just because maybe they had some talent and want to live precariously through their children. That is not right.
A lot of my friends who have kids.......(parents of now in days I mean).....attempt to put their kids in acting, modeling, dancing, singing, music....etc.....just so one day the kid can bring the pay cheque home.....
DISCUSS.....
I think SPORTS are a very important part of a child's upbringing.....MUSIC is great as well......but it's not for everyone...... Children should be exposed to as much of everything as possible......trying everything.....until they decide what they love or hate......(and this should not be confused with being lazy and not wanting to practice) Being well rounded is an overall good thing.... the more you know the more doors open up for you.....
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Dogo wrote:Oh yeah?!!!! and you're a chicken! - You should go into politics. Way to defend your position...
BTW, since the other "late bloomer" story blew in your face, you can tell this one Ferdinand Posche designed and produced his first Bettle prototype in 1935. He was 60 The bettle didn't go into full production until 1950 (I think) when he was 75
Turned out to be the best selling car design ever - Nah! I'll stick to the Agatha Christie one. Like I said, I've been saying that story for as long as I remember and geek over here has been the only one who actually looked it up. Besides, I don't like cars or car stories, 'cause then people will start thinking that I know sh-it about cars and I just know that they roll. I'm sticking with Agatha.
TV Buff wrote: Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn.
sorry to burst your bubble buffy, but she published her first book in 1920 (aged 40, since she was born in 1890). I had to look it up, LOL.
still, she got started at age 40, which is "late", but not as impressive as 60 . Now you have to tell your friends you were lyinggggggggggggg!!!!
I KNEW there had to be a geek who'd one day look it up. You have no idea how long I've been telling that story and NOBODY has even questioned the veracity of the info!!!
Aaaaanyway, point is, it's never too late to learn...
@ The Dawgo: I still don't agree with you. I stand by my initial point. Not everybody can be Michelangelo, but a lot of people can be good, if they try. The handful of people who habe amazing, amazing talent don't even have to try that hard. It comes naturally. But 99% of the others do. IMNSHO
Oh yeah?!!!! and you're a chicken!
BTW, since the other "late bloomer" story blew in your face, you can tell this one Ferdinand Posche designed and produced his first Bettle prototype in 1935. He was 60 The bettle didn't go into full production until 1950 (I think) when he was 75
Turned out to be the best selling car design ever
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TV Buff wrote: Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn.
sorry to burst your bubble buffy, but she published her first book in 1920 (aged 40, since she was born in 1890). I had to look it up, LOL.
still, she got started at age 40, which is "late", but not as impressive as 60 . Now you have to tell your friends you were lyinggggggggggggg!!!!
Mi Tio fue embajador cultural en España por 12 años Mi Tia es la Directora General del Museo de Artes back home Mis Primos se volvieron "bolcheviques" y se fueron a estudiar artes en Cuba Y Rusia and they came back more weird than before...lol
TV Buff wrote: Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn.
sorry to burst your bubble buffy, but she published her first book in 1920 (aged 40, since she was born in 1890). I had to look it up, LOL.
still, she got started at age 40, which is "late", but not as impressive as 60 . Now you have to tell your friends you were lyinggggggggggggg!!!!
I KNEW there had to be a geek who'd one day look it up. You have no idea how long I've been telling that story and NOBODY has even questioned the veracity of the info!!!
Aaaaanyway, point is, it's never too late to learn...
@ The Dawgo: I still don't agree with you. I stand by my initial point. Not everybody can be Michelangelo, but a lot of people can be good, if they try. The handful of people who habe amazing, amazing talent don't even have to try that hard. It comes naturally. But 99% of the others do. IMNSHO
TV Buff wrote: Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn.
sorry to burst your bubble buffy, but she published her first book in 1920 (aged 40, since she was born in 1890). I had to look it up, LOL.
still, she got started at age 40, which is "late", but not as impressive as 60 . Now you have to tell your friends you were lyinggggggggggggg!!!!
I don’t know many Hispanics (teenagers or otherwise) that are, themselves, artistically inclined (other than the obvious ones here) nor their children. In fact, I don’t know many PEOPLE, period, that are so inclined
But, I think schools (at least in Vaughan) do a pretty good job at trying to get kids into arts (they regularly show their work, etc)
Also, I think, it’s an innate tendency, like sports… if you ain’t got it, you ain’t got it. I don’t think you can teach it --I disagree with this. If you're not exposed to it, how will you know if you got it? And I also believe that a lot of success depends not only on talent, but on perseverance and hard work. Maybe 3 parts each.
As far as my family goes, none sings, plays instruments, or anything of that sort. I guess I’m the most “artistically” inclined in the family, not in performing arts, but I like everything that has to do with design (is that what you meant? ) and visual arts (although I don’t know much about it), and I like to think I’m somewhat “creative” (speaking of which… If you’d like to see what I do…In this month’s Canadian House & Home featured home (House&Home of the month) although our name is not on it, you can see all our work there… About 4 pages of it ) - Now, see, this I bet a lot of us didn't know... I was just being sarcastic when I mentioned you, but good for you! I'll be sure to check out the magazine.
But I don’t think it reflects JUST the Hispanic community, I think that, in general, most people just don’t have that “gift”
That’s not what I meant
What I meant was, that if you don’t ahve the innate talent to stand out at certain arts (assuming you’ve already been exposed to it) I don’t think it could be taught to be great at it. You can’t be taught to be Michelangelo, for example... Just like sports, IMO, for example
Perseverance and hard work might make you able to perform a certain art, but it doesn’t mean you’ll stand out at it.. Or be any good, for that matter, unless you have that talent in you, IMO
BTW: ugh! How you underestimate The Dawgo, Bufster
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For a brief period of time I was interested in playing the Piano. I played it in Grade 9 and the dumb thing was that the program was only available in Grade 9. Just when you start to pick up on it and understand how to play they cut it off I should have told my parents that I was interested in it so I can take lessons privately, but my after school hobby became girls
I'd say it's never too late. If you want to learn how to play an instrument and didn't as a child, you can always start right now.
Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn. Also, Yanni only started playing as a grown up, and he taught himself. And look where he is now.
Actually, where is he, anyway?
I would love to start learning now, but with some much going on in my life like work, tv, marriage, and tv it feels like I have no time
i think u forgot foro
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Although Foro can be considered art if you want it to be. We can call it Fart
For a brief period of time I was interested in playing the Piano. I played it in Grade 9 and the dumb thing was that the program was only available in Grade 9. Just when you start to pick up on it and understand how to play they cut it off I should have told my parents that I was interested in it so I can take lessons privately, but my after school hobby became girls
I'd say it's never too late. If you want to learn how to play an instrument and didn't as a child, you can always start right now.
Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn. Also, Yanni only started playing as a grown up, and he taught himself. And look where he is now.
Actually, where is he, anyway?
I would love to start learning now, but with some much going on in my life like work, tv, marriage, and tv it feels like I have no time
Just get rid of marriage you will have plenty of time and you can really focus in in Art.
For a brief period of time I was interested in playing the Piano. I played it in Grade 9 and the dumb thing was that the program was only available in Grade 9. Just when you start to pick up on it and understand how to play they cut it off I should have told my parents that I was interested in it so I can take lessons privately, but my after school hobby became girls
I'd say it's never too late. If you want to learn how to play an instrument and didn't as a child, you can always start right now.
Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn. Also, Yanni only started playing as a grown up, and he taught himself. And look where he is now.
Actually, where is he, anyway?
I would love to start learning now, but with some much going on in my life like work, tv, marriage, and tv it feels like I have no time
For a brief period of time I was interested in playing the Piano. I played it in Grade 9 and the dumb thing was that the program was only available in Grade 9. Just when you start to pick up on it and understand how to play they cut it off I should have told my parents that I was interested in it so I can take lessons privately, but my after school hobby became girls
I'd say it's never too late. If you want to learn how to play an instrument and didn't as a child, you can always start right now.
Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn. Also, Yanni only started playing as a grown up, and he taught himself. And look where he is now.
Actually, where is he, anyway?
I would love to start learning now, but with some much going on in my life like work, tv, marriage, and tv it feels like I have no time
For a brief period of time I was interested in playing the Piano. I played it in Grade 9 and the dumb thing was that the program was only available in Grade 9. Just when you start to pick up on it and understand how to play they cut it off I should have told my parents that I was interested in it so I can take lessons privately, but my after school hobby became girls
I'd say it's never too late. If you want to learn how to play an instrument and didn't as a child, you can always start right now.
Did you know that Agatha Christie only started writing when she was 60? People who have known me forever are fed up with this story, so now it's foro's turn. Also, Yanni only started playing as a grown up, and he taught himself. And look where he is now.
Guadalupana wrote: Private piano lessons are way too expensive...unless my instructor ends up being a yummy looking gentleman...
no there not i get them for free!!! oh wait thats cuz my step daddy is a piano/bass/guitar(elect) teacher!!! lol lol btw anyone interested he charges 20-25 the hour depending on where u live!
Private piano lessons are way too expensive...unless my instructor ends up being a yummy looking gentleman...
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For a brief period of time I was interested in playing the Piano. I played it in Grade 9 and the dumb thing was that the program was only available in Grade 9. Just when you start to pick up on it and understand how to play they cut it off I should have told my parents that I was interested in it so I can take lessons privately, but my after school hobby became girls
God wrote: Because most of the art doesn't pay bills....most of the artist have to do something on the side to pay bills, unless you are super famous or well marketed.....
Speaking of which, you're getting sooooo much better. You must have a really good expensive camera now and awesome lighting.
God wrote: Because most of the art doesn't pay bills....most of the artist have to do something on the side to pay bills, unless you are super famous or well marketed.....
Speaking of which, you're getting sooooo much better. You must have a really good expensive camera now and awesome lighting.
GENIE wrote: pppffffttt as a kid my mother stuck us in everything and anything to keep our arses busy!
When we lived in Jane and Finch i was in gymnastics ballet and dance (jazz) also in Manner Classes how to eat properly how to walk and talk the correct way (yes i was very young) -You failed that one miserably, didn't you???
I kid!!! I kid!!!
My brothers were in every sport you can imagine baseball,basketball and so on it was at the community center.
My goddaughter is in Swimming lessons and gymnastics (shes competeing at the end of the month in Pickering) and shes at U of T's gymnastics and swim team for them they have all kinds of youth activities ranging in age and knowledge and so forth her next thing is jazz which starts in June.
Are you asking because of your bufferonni who is just the most talented child i have seen!!!! (porque ni salio a la mama ni al papa) jejejejejejejeje (payback for the Le Casa comment) But thanks.
I think you should find out thru U of T cuz a talent like that needs to be showcased!!! I think there are many talented latino kids showing there talent in white communities
This is exactly why I'm asking. I see a lot of talented artists in the city, but I don't "see" the new crop coming out because THERE ARE NO OUTLETS for them to showcase their talents, unless, like you said, is in whitey events or in school and such. I don't think we're fostering the love for their own roots at an early age, and unless they discover it on their own (which usually happens), this is not happening early enough. There are no competitions, no events, nothing where the kids/teenagers can show their talent in a hispanic-only event. Or are there any? I don't think I've seen them.
Because most of the art doesn't pay bills....most of the artist have to do something on the side to pay bills, unless you are super famous or well marketed.....
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I don’t know many Hispanics (teenagers or otherwise) that are, themselves, artistically inclined (other than the obvious ones here) nor their children. In fact, I don’t know many PEOPLE, period, that are so inclined
But, I think schools (at least in Vaughan) do a pretty good job at trying to get kids into arts (they regularly show their work, etc)
Also, I think, it’s an innate tendency, like sports… if you ain’t got it, you ain’t got it. I don’t think you can teach it --I disagree with this. If you're not exposed to it, how will you know if you got it? And I also believe that a lot of success depends not only on talent, but on perseverance and hard work. Maybe 3 parts each.
As far as my family goes, none sings, plays instruments, or anything of that sort. I guess I’m the most “artistically” inclined in the family, not in performing arts, but I like everything that has to do with design (is that what you meant? ) and visual arts (although I don’t know much about it), and I like to think I’m somewhat “creative” (speaking of which… If you’d like to see what I do…In this month’s Canadian House & Home featured home (House&Home of the month) although our name is not on it, you can see all our work there… About 4 pages of it ) - Now, see, this I bet a lot of us didn't know... I was just being sarcastic when I mentioned you, but good for you! I'll be sure to check out the magazine.
But I don’t think it reflects JUST the Hispanic community, I think that, in general, most people just don’t have that “gift”
GENIE wrote: pppffffttt as a kid my mother stuck us in everything and anything to keep our arses busy!
When we lived in Jane and Finch i was in gymnastics ballet and dance (jazz) also in Manner Classes how to eat properly how to walk and talk the correct way (yes i was very young) -You failed that one miserably, didn't you???
I kid!!! I kid!!!
My brothers were in every sport you can imagine baseball,basketball and so on it was at the community center.
My goddaughter is in Swimming lessons and gymnastics (shes competeing at the end of the month in Pickering) and shes at U of T's gymnastics and swim team for them they have all kinds of youth activities ranging in age and knowledge and so forth her next thing is jazz which starts in June.
Are you asking because of your bufferonni who is just the most talented child i have seen!!!! (porque ni salio a la mama ni al papa) jejejejejejejeje (payback for the Le Casa comment) But thanks.
I think you should find out thru U of T cuz a talent like that needs to be showcased!!! I think there are many talented latino kids showing there talent in white communities
This is exactly why I'm asking. I see a lot of talented artists in the city, but I don't "see" the new crop coming out because THERE ARE NO OUTLETS for them to showcase their talents, unless, like you said, is in whitey events or in school and such. I don't think we're fostering the love for their own roots at an early age, and unless they discover it on their own (which usually happens), this is not happening early enough. There are no competitions, no events, nothing where the kids/teenagers can show their talent in a hispanic-only event. Or are there any? I don't think I've seen them.
I don’t know many Hispanics (teenagers or otherwise) that are, themselves, artistically inclined (other than the obvious ones here) nor their children. In fact, I don’t know many PEOPLE, period, that are so inclined
But, I think schools (at least in Vaughan) do a pretty good job at trying to get kids into arts (they regularly show their work, etc)
Also, I think, it’s an innate tendency, like sports… if you ain’t got it, you ain’t got it. I don’t think you can teach it
As far as my family goes, none sings, plays instruments, or anything of that sort. I guess I’m the most “artistically” inclined in the family, not in performing arts, but I like everything that has to do with design (is that what you meant? ) and visual arts (although I don’t know much about it), and I like to think I’m somewhat “creative” (speaking of which… If you’d like to see what I do…In this month’s Canadian House & Home featured home (House&Home of the month) although our name is not on it, you can see all our work there… About 4 pages of it )
But I don’t think it reflects JUST the Hispanic community, I think that, in general, most people just don’t have that “gift”
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pppffffttt as a kid my mother stuck us in everything and anything to keep our arses busy!
When we lived in Jane and Finch i was in gymnastics ballet and dance (jazz) also in Manner Classes how to eat properly how to walk and talk the correct way (yes i was very young)
My brothers were in every sport you can imagine baseball,basketball and so on it was at the community center.
My goddaughter is in Swimming lessons and gymnastics (shes competeing at the end of the month in Pickering) and shes at U of T's gymnastics and swim team for them they have all kinds of youth activities ranging in age and knowledge and so forth her next thing is jazz which starts in June.
Are you asking because of your bufferonni who is just the most talented child i have seen!!!! (porque ni salio a la mama ni al papa) jejejejejejejeje (payback for the Le Casa comment)
I think you should find out thru U of T cuz a talent like that needs to be showcased!!! I think there are many talented latino kids showing there talent in white communities
@ Guada and Angelita: Would you now take the initiative to encourage your kids actively to develop their own artistic talents? Or would you wait until they show some interest in something to sign them up for something. And Guada, it sounds like you are quite the artist too. Good for you, woman!
-- Edited by TV Buff at 10:10, 2007-02-27
Well, right now i have him currently involved in soccer and soon will be in Taekwondo. If and when he develops an interest in something else, then i would definately encourage it. I wouldn't want him growing up thinking, "i wish i had done that and my mom didn't let me!"
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Guadalupana wrote: Pfft, always count on Immature (But real mature in age) Dogo to laugh at something that shouldn't be laughed at.
Claro! porque laughing at the snowblower thread is "OK". Pfffft!!!:talktothehand:
Que que?!! i didn't even post my worthy words on your worthy-less thread!
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Chale Tanga wrote: hey buffy youre so fyne youre so fyne you blow my mind, hey buffy!!
alright enough with that... so Im not really understanding your question... are you looking for 1. an outlet for a yuut (say it with an italian accent) to display his/her art work? 2. places that are currently accepting yuuts with artistic abilities 3. or are you just being nosey and wanting to know the inner most secrets of the foroers repressed childhood memories?
Holy Deja Vu,
ETA: More serious responses than I expected... Awesome
@ Luna: I remember talking to your mom a couple of years ago about your daughter and it sounded like she's been taking piano lessons for years now. Have you heard of the Kiwanis festival? Does she have a private teacher or is it group lessons? This festival is competitive all across the province, and it's a good showcase opportunity for kids. I'll post more info about it later.
@ Guada and Angelita: Would you now take the initiative to encourage your kids actively to develop their own artistic talents? Or would you wait until they show some interest in something to sign them up for something. And Guada, it sounds like you are quite the artist too. Good for you, woman!
Well in my family it was and always will be....sports, sports and sports!! As for me, i took dance lessons when i was a kid, but then dropped it when i got to high school. But i have always loved to draw. I haven't done any arts in the last three years or so. (being a mommy does not give you the time) But i love to draw and i hope my son develops that talent!
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TV Buff wrote: How many of you guys know of kids or teenagers who are taking music lessons, art lessons, dance lessons, drama lessons? Have you yourselves (apart from the obvious-- Baina, Ricky, Shanti, Dogo... Daeveed, I forgot about Daeveed ) been involved in the arts somehow? Did you take lessons as a kid? Did your parents encourage you to be artistic? Are there outlets for kids and teenagers to show their art? And those of you who are now artists, what are you doing to pass the inspiration along to the younger generation? Also, how did you guys start out? Did you want to learn music or were you encouraged by your parents to do this?
I know I'm gonna get a lot of wisecracks asking this here, but I'm hoping to get a couple of semi-serious answers.
-- Edited by TV Buff at 09:17, 2007-02-27
Back home there are lots of artist in my family such Painters, writers, novelist , from the 5-9 I took painting lessons and in My teenager days I was able to play guitar, piano and bass but when I started university I didn't have time for music.
Now My son is into Painting he has been taking lessons for the last year.
Pfft, always count on Immature (But real mature in age) Dogo to laugh at something that shouldn't be laughed at.
Anyway Buffy, to answer your questions:
My sister was taking dance lessons and art classes. Not sure about it now. But in my family it's encouraged. If you have that talent and 'want' to do it, it's hasn't been frowned upon. A few of my uncles used to have a folklor band, it was called Teosinte (or so i think). I myself used to dance folk music, with the traditional Salvadorean dress and all. I used to go to art classes every saturday with my brothers. And in our neighbouthood, when we had summer holidays, they'd put spanish and art classes up, just to keep us busy. It was really nice. As kids we had fun.
My dad used to be in a theater group. I remember going to see their play, it was named "Hijos del Maiz-children of the corn".
I used to play the clarinet in elementary, and i wish i had never given that up. In the highschool years i took the arts, not because it was easy, but because i really have an appreciation for it. I did a banner for the school which to this day i think it's still up. I did co-op at an art gallery and had some of my stuff displayed. When it was time for me to go to college, i wanted to do the classical animation. Highschool hadn't prepared me for it, so i did Graphic Design.
My sister now really likes to draw, she shows me and asks me about how to do things, how the certain image looks and so on. Maybe one day she decides to do what i do (if she really sets her heart on it), but becomes better than me. Which come to think of it, i better start asking her about what she wants to do and help her out.
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hey buffy youre so fyne youre so fyne you blow my mind, hey buffy!!
alright enough with that... so Im not really understanding your question... are you looking for 1. an outlet for a yuut (say it with an italian accent) to display his/her art work? 2. places that are currently accepting yuuts with artistic abilities 3. or are you just being nosey and wanting to know the inner most secrets of the foroers repressed childhood memories?
Hey Buff... my daughter is in piano lessons and is increasingly becoming more interested in the arts as the days go by. My son on the other hand is only interested in video games and anything Star Wars.
My daughter's school has an annual musical showcase competition (a recital I guess) where the kids showcase their progress for that year and they enter little mini competitions against their peers.
What I don't like is that there isn't really a "public" outlet for really talented kids to showcase their talents. Seems like you have to belong to certain groups or associations in order to be in any Kids Festivals or Art Festivals. or maybe it just seems that way to me
TV Buff wrote: How many of you guys know of kids or teenagers who are taking music lessons, art lessons, dance lessons, drama lessons? Have you yourselves (apart from the obvious-- Baina, Ricky, Shanti, Dogo... Daeveed, I forgot about Daeveed ) been involved in the arts somehow? Did you take lessons as a kid? Did your parents encourage you to be artistic? Are there outlets for kids and teenagers to show their art? And those of you who are now artists, what are you doing to pass the inspiration along to the younger generation? Also, how did you guys start out? Did you want to learn music or were you encouraged by your parents to do this?
I know I'm gonna get a lot of wisecracks asking this here, but I'm hoping to get a couple of semi-serious answers.
-- Edited by TV Buff at 09:17, 2007-02-27
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How many of you guys know of kids or teenagers who are taking music lessons, art lessons, dance lessons, drama lessons? Have you yourselves (apart from the obvious-- Baina, Ricky, Shanti, Dogo... Daeveed, I forgot about Daeveed ) been involved in the arts somehow? Did you take lessons as a kid? Did your parents encourage you to be artistic? Are there outlets for kids and teenagers to show their art? And those of you who are now artists, what are you doing to pass the inspiration along to the younger generation? Also, how did you guys start out? Did you want to learn music or were you encouraged by your parents to do this?
I know I'm gonna get a lot of wisecracks asking this here, but I'm hoping to get a couple of semi-serious answers.
I think is sooo wrong. I don't think parents should encourage kids (like poor Britney) expecting them to be successful so they can exploit them after, and parents SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER EVER try to fulfill their own dreams through their kids, just because maybe they had some talent and want to live precariously through their children. That is not right. 
You should go into politics. Way to defend your position... 
) - Now, see, this I bet a lot of us didn't know... I was just being sarcastic when I mentioned you, but good for you! I'll be sure to check out the magazine. 
