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Wrong! It's not six months. If you are a permanent resident, you should know that if you have been a permanent resident for 5 years or more, you must have been physically present in Canada for a minimun of 730 days within the past 5 years. If you have been a permanent resident for less than five year, you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum 730 in Canada at the 5 year mark.

que mala!!!!
you just want them to loose their residence, so they have to go through you to get it back...

this is all dirty business...



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Gringa Lahtina wrote:

So that's just two years kinda thingy? Hmmmm.  


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Question (ą la Dwight Schrute)...

(this isn't about citizenships but permanent resident status so it's along the same lines)

what's the time limit for being out of the country before you lose your resident status?

6 months.....I think...asi que consigase su camara de llnata paque cruze de mojada.


 Wrong! It's not six months. If you are a permanent resident, you should know that if you have been a permanent resident for 5 years or more, you must have been physically present in Canada for a minimun of 730 days within the past 5 years. If you have been a permanent resident for less than five year, you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum 730 in Canada at the 5 year mark.






So that's just two years kinda thingy? Hmmmm.  

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angelita wrote:
 Wrong! It's not six months. If you are a permanent resident, you should know that if you have been a permanent resident for 5 years or more, you must have been physically present in Canada for a minimun of 730 days within the past 5 years. If you have been a permanent resident for less than five year, you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum 730 in Canada at the 5 year mark.

que mala!!!!
you just want them to loose their residence, so they have to go through you to get it back...

this is all dirty business...




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God wrote:
Gringa Lahtina wrote:
Question (ą la Dwight Schrute)...

(this isn't about citizenships but permanent resident status so it's along the same lines)

what's the time limit for being out of the country before you lose your resident status?

6 months.....I think...asi que consigase su camara de llnata paque cruze de mojada.


 Wrong! It's not six months. If you are a permanent resident, you should know that if you have been a permanent resident for 5 years or more, you must have been physically present in Canada for a minimun of 730 days within the past 5 years. If you have been a permanent resident for less than five year, you must show that you will be able to meet the minimum 730 in Canada at the 5 year mark.





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Gringa Lahtina wrote:
Question (ą la Dwight Schrute)...

(this isn't about citizenships but permanent resident status so it's along the same lines)

what's the time limit for being out of the country before you lose your resident status?

6 months.....I think...asi que consigase su camara de llnata paque cruze de mojada.


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Gringa Lahtina wrote:
Question (ą la Dwight Schrute)...

(this isn't about citizenships but permanent resident status so it's along the same lines)

what's the time limit for being out of the country before you lose your resident status?

6 months.....I think...asi que consigase su camara de llnata paque cruze de mojada.

 



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Question (ą la Dwight Schrute)...

(this isn't about citizenships but permanent resident status so it's along the same lines)
 
what's the time limit for being out of the country before you lose your resident status?

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Passport applicants find they're not Canadian

CALGARY (CBC) - Hundreds of people are suddenly discovering that they are not Canadians as new laws requiring travellers to have a passport to fly to the U.S. go into effect Tuesday, CBC's investigative unit has learned.


Many applying for a Canadian passport have been informed their chance to remain a citizen expired years ago because of an obscure provision in the Citizenship Act, a little-known law that applied between 1947 and 1977.


The law states that if you lived outside Canada on your 24th birthday and failed to sign the right form, you automatically lost your citizenship.


Barbara Porteous applied for a passport last year and was told in a letter from Citizenship and Immigration that she would have to apply to become a landed immigrant after spending most of her 70 years in Canada.


"These documents confirm you were a Canadian citizen, but you ceased being a Canadian citizen on June 14, 1960, the day following your 24th birthday," the letter read.


A Canadian born in the U.S. to a Canadian father, Porteous has lived in Osoyoos, B.C., for the last 46 years and even worked as a returning officer for Elections Canada.


"I cried for a couple of hours," Porteous told CBC News. "I mean, the hollowness you get inside when you find out that everything you live for is gone."


Porteous is part of a group known as the Lost Canadians. According to Canadian census data, there are an estimated 10,000 to 20,000 people in Canada who could find out they've lost their citizenship if they apply for a passport.


Porteous said her life could be ruined by a technicality she was never told about.


"Well, this is my fear, because I've been getting my pension for five years. Do they want it back with interest? Does my medical go out the window, too? I'm 70 years old."


'They took my birthright away'


Don Chapman of Gibsons, B.C., recently joined a line of people shuffling through security at a federal building in Ottawa to lobby politicians on behalf of people who have lost their Canadian citizenship.


Chapman was born in Canada to Canadian parents, but 34 years ago, he was told he is not Canadian.


"I was born in Canada," he told CBC News. "My father, when I was a child, took out American citizenship. So, they took my birthright away."


Citizenship and Immigration Minister Diane Finley acknowledged the provisions are unfair and said the government would shift its policy to fast-track the process of becoming a citizen for these people.


Prior to this week, Canadians without status would have to apply to become landed immigrants - a process that takes three years or more.


Now, they will be able to apply for a grant of citizenship in just eight months.


"We're trying to right the wrongs of the past and do the reasonable thing, the right thing, for what are essentially Canadians in all but name," Finley told CBC News in an exclusive interview.

But critics say that still leaves people like Porteous in limbo for too long.

Liberal MP Andrew Telegdi, vice-chair of the citizenship and immigration committee, called for Parliament to pass a new law for the Canadians who should never have lost their citizenship in the first place.

"I mean, it just defies logic," Telegdi told CBC News. "The system doesn't make any sense, so it's critical that we have a citizenship act that is in compliance with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the generosity of what Canadians believe."


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/23012007/3/canada-passport-applicants-find-re-canadian.html



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http://torontosun.canoe.ca/News/Canada/2007/01/11/3299401-sun.html



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Jaime Cruz wrote:



nando wrote:


it's in the global mail, toronto sun, toronto star



Those are not reliable sources for Luna.
If it's not on www.pinkisthenewblog.com , www.hollywoodtuna.com or www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com  it won't be credible to her.


 





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ok hold on... i seriously can't find anything.  @ Nando, can you please provide a link?  A credible link. 



-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 15:08, 2007-01-11

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it's in the global mail, toronto sun, toronto star



Those are not reliable sources for Luna.
If it's not on www.pinkisthenewblog.com , www.hollywoodtuna.com or www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com  it won't be credible to her.


 



 


 



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nando wrote:


it's in the global mail, toronto sun, toronto star



OH


well in that case HOLY POO!



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it's in the global mail, toronto sun, toronto star

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why does this not sound right to me?  is your source creditable Nando?

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January 11, 2007

Citizenships in danger
New enforcement of an old law could leave many 'Canadians' in limboBy KATHLEEN HARRIS, NATIONAL BUREAU

OTTAWA -- Some Canadians could unknowingly lose their citizenship and even be rendered "stateless" under a decades-old law that's now being enforced.


A letter from Monte Solberg to MPs, written just days before he was shuffled from the Immigration Minister's job, says people born outside Canada -- to a Canadian parent also born outside Canada -- must apply to retain their citizenship before their 28th birthday. The obscure provision under the Citizenship Act was installed in 1977 to "safeguard the value of citizenship," but only began to potentially affect people as of Feb. 15, 2005.


The federal government is now underscoring the little-known policy by stamping an expiry date on citizenship certificates that will be revoked if the individual doesn't apply for retention.


NO CASES YET


Toronto immigration lawyer Joel Sandaluk is not aware of any Canadian who has lost their citizenship yet, but he worried many will by default. He called the automatic revocation policy a "dangerous road" for Canada to tread.


"This creates two classes of Canadian citizens," he said. "The distinction between the two classes is essentially the birthplace of the citizen's parent. This is a huge step backwards. Canada, and the U.S. as well, have been immigrant countries that have awarded citizenship in a way that has been magnanimous and not limited. This puts pretty serious limitations on people's citizenship in a way that is pretty arbitrary."


Sandaluk is also concerned the policy will create a new class of "stateless" persons because their birth country may not provide citizenship.


Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis is outraged by the policy he had never heard of until now, and plans to press the Commons Immigration committee to repeal the section that has been "hidden in the books."


He believes no distinction should be drawn between citizens based on birthplace, and accused the Conservatives of reviving an "antique" clause to move a step closer to banning dual citizenship.


"A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian -- period, full stop," he said. "We have Canadians who are mobile all around the world. The Minister should have looked at this and said: 'This was something on the books, it's just come up now but it's stupid,' and squashed it."


The application for retaining citizenship has certain residency requirements and wants established ties to Canada.


Greg Willoughby, a London, Ont.-based immigration and citizenship lawyer, said the Lebanon evacuation crisis ignited a debate over "citizenship of convenience." He conceded this policy might "tragically" catch unwitting resident Canadians as they apply for pension or a new passport, but he doesn't fault a policy designed to require ties to Canada in order to retain citizenship.


"I also think politically they're sending a message saying if you have no connection to Canada, you're no longer a Canadian citizen."




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-- Edited by nando at 13:57, 2007-01-11

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