The Death of Reggaeton?????

Marky Mark · Foro Master

RE: The Death of Reggaeton?????

Guadalupana · Foro Master

Daeveed wrote:

I am not wearing underwear today.

That avatar makes you look like Tom Cruise.

FANTITO · Senior Member

I never thought reggaeton would even be heard outside the latino comunity since it's roots are basically jamaican and perhaps considered a secondary musical style. FOr those who made some money out of it it was a great experience.

I think latin music such as salsa can't be mainstream in North America since most of the lirics are sung in spanish, and I don't think most salseros want it to be that mainstream anyways. Non latinos are welcome to listen and dance to the music but those who don't like it should just change the station and forget about making stupid comments. I think that the reggaeton music was just an excuse for that guy to express his views.

Maybe if reggaeton didn't always finish in Oh, ol,on,etc,it would be more interesting. Perhaps it needs lirics with message other than sex acts and physical attraction.

Dogo · Comandante

Nicoya wrote:

Reggaeton long lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YA tU SabeS el Vibe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! puro Rakata..

NekEtRekE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You look so much like Cocotaso

Nicoya · Regular Plus

Reggaeton long lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YA tU SabeS el Vibe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! puro Rakata..

NekEtRekE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Die underwear, DIE!!!!!

Daeveed · Foro Master

I am not wearing underwear today.

luna chiquitita · TOP Guru

Marky Mark wrote:

Article is too long to read. I'll just say that if there are artists to perform it and fans to support it, a musical genre will never die.

But if we're making comparisons, gangsta rap was born in the mid to late 80's and everyone thought/hoped it would be a fad, now it's mainstream pop (thank you Fitty ).

And yes it's a racist article; it's a generalized assumption not based on any real facts.

Look at the source, a black man who probably grew up listening to hip hop when it was just rap back in the day. Now he's forced to put up with this new style that's based on hip hop and dancehall. He probably lives in a latino neighbourhood which adds more fuel to the fire. Besides, his by-line reads: Byron Crawford is your favorite rapper's least favorite blogger.

But whatever, no one reads my posts anyway.

-- Edited by Marky Mark at 12:52, 2007-01-10

your post was too long to read but I read the last sentence and that's how i feel most of the time.

Guadalupana · Foro Master

Marky Mark wrote:

Article is too long to read. I'll just say that if there are artists to perform it and fans to support it, a musical genre will never die.

But if we're making comparisons, gangsta rap was born in the mid to late 80's and everyone thought/hoped it would be a fad, now it's mainstream pop (thank you Fitty ).

And yes it's a racist article; it's a generalized assumption not based on any real facts.

Look at the source, a black man who probably grew up listening to hip hop when it was just rap back in the day. Now he's forced to put up with this new style that's based on hip hop and dancehall. He probably lives in a latino neighbourhood which adds more fuel to the fire. Besides, his by-line reads: Byron Crawford is your favorite rapper's least favorite blogger.

But whatever, no one reads my posts anyway.

-- Edited by Marky Mark at 12:52, 2007-01-10

but i...err..well...oh...hmmm....

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Article is too long to read. I'll just say that if there are artists to perform it and fans to support it, a musical genre will never die.

But if we're making comparisons, gangsta rap was born in the mid to late 80's and everyone thought/hoped it would be a fad, now it's mainstream pop (thank you Fitty

).

And yes it's a racist article; it's a generalized assumption not based on any real facts.

Look at the source, a black man who probably grew up listening to hip hop when it was just rap back in the day. Now he's forced to put up with this new style that's based on hip hop and dancehall. He probably lives in a latino neighbourhood which adds more fuel to the fire. Besides, his by-line reads: Byron Crawford is your favorite rapper's least favorite blogger.

But whatever, no one reads my posts anyway.

-- Edited by Marky Mark at 12:52, 2007-01-10

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Die Reggaeton, DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

DJAlonso wrote:

My prediction: Latin pop is coming back...another crossover term is coming back such as happened with Ricky, Enrique and J-lo, etc..... Who do you guys think are the current Latin artists that will cross?

Cheech Marin

DJAlonso · Guru

My prediction: Latin pop is coming back...another crossover term is coming back such as happened with Ricky, Enrique and J-lo, etc..... Who do you guys think are the current Latin artists that will cross?

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

TV Buff wrote:

Jaime Cruz wrote:

Can't say I disagree with the article. I can see how some may find it a bit racist, but for the most part it's right. I knew reggaeton wouldn't last, and the hardcore reggaeton lovers will say reggaeton will live on, but they just won't focus on being commercial. Because everyone knows going commercial is career suicide Who want's wants fame and fortune when you can just be local

I disagree with that 100%. I think reggaeton is here to stay. It'll just evolve, but it's definitely here to stay.

Then again, I predicted that Punta and Macarena would be the next Salsa and look where they are now, so I'm not the most reliable of sources.

That article just reminded me to remove my Mexican flag off the roof of my car.

TV Buff · TOP Guru

Jaime Cruz wrote:

Can't say I disagree with the article. I can see how some may find it a bit racist, but for the most part it's right. I knew reggaeton wouldn't last, and the hardcore reggaeton lovers will say reggaeton will live on, but they just won't focus on being commercial. Because everyone knows going commercial is career suicide Who want's wants fame and fortune when you can just be local

I disagree with that 100%. I think reggaeton is here to stay. It'll just evolve, but it's definitely here to stay.

Then again, I predicted that Punta and Macarena would be the next Salsa and look where they are now, so I'm not the most reliable of sources.

Jaime Cruz · Foro Master

Can't say I disagree with the article. I can see how some may find it a bit racist, but for the most part it's right. I knew reggaeton wouldn't last, and the hardcore reggaeton lovers will say reggaeton will live on, but they just won't focus on being commercial. Because everyone knows going commercial is career suicide Who want's wants fame and fortune when you can just be local

luna chiquitita · TOP Guru

Aside from the talent, music and comparisons, let's look at King Cobra's original question, Is this article racist? Although, I wouldn't use the word "racist", it does have several condescending tones to it.

"While I’d much rather hear Air Supply than whoever it is that makes salsa music, this should still be viewed as a step in the right direction."

"Hispanics, who are a very proud people (hence the flags on their cars and what have you), were willing to patronize these artists for quite some time out of a sense of racial pride, but even they have a limit. Also, even at the rate that hispanics tend to procreate, it’s going to be difficult for the genre to experience any significant growth unless it expands outside the hispanic community."

"That said, it’d be naive of us to think that we’re out of the woods just yet when it comes to “latin” music in general. According to the oft-quoted statistic, which may or may not have been invented by Pat Buchanan, the United States will be fifty percent Mexican by 2050. Reggaeton might end up going the way of rap-rock just by virtue of the fact that it sucks; but unless we put up a fence or something, we should probably get used to hearing some form of awful hispanic music."

I think this article could have been written without the snobbish tone and still have gotten the point across. It goes to show that prejudices are still alive and well today.

TV Buff · TOP Guru

I think the writer of the piece didn't think reggaeton was alive to begin with. Interesting article, though.

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

I agree! Reggaeton sucks big fat kitty balls!!!

ROMPE ROMPE ROMPE!!!!

don_plyero · Guru

who compares them?

well latinos ! WE AS LATINOS NEED THAT HUGE STAR TO COMPARE TO THE WHITE OR BLACK MARKET

me being Latino im proud of what reggaeton's doing even if it isn't blowing up outside of the latin market like it was supposed to

I don't think there being racist but they are telling the truth

reggaeton is nowhere near hip hop

but 2007 is the year of reggaeton **da year we show what were about**

Guadalupana · Foro Master

Interesting. But who ever assumed that Regar-ton was going to take the place of hip-hop was probably on some heavy dose of cheap crack.

How could they possible compare let's say, Daddy yankee's "talent" to that of 2Pac or B.I.G? Just to name a couple.
Hip-hop has traveled and evolved from way back when? Pfft, it's just an out of this world comparison. Digo yo verdad.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

Monday, May 8th, 2006
The Death of Reggaeton

Everyone’s least favorite style of hip-hip might not be around next year, though I shudder to think what might replace it.

Posted In: Columnists, Bol's Saturday Night Workout by Byron Crawford

“They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can’t kill the beast.” — Jean-Paul Sartre

You’ll recall that several months ago (way back in March), in a post on this site, I wondered whether or not reggaeton might eventually come to replace hip-hop. After all, if the Clear Channels of the world (i.e. the people who run hip-hop) replaced rock stations with reggaeton stations, and the reggaeton stations are beating out hip-hop stations in the ratings, what’s there to suggest that the TIs won’t replace the hip-hop stations as well?

As it turns out, I may have been worrying a bit too soon. In the best news I’ve heard since the BGM gave me a gift certificate to Applebees for Christmas, it seems that reggaeton is losing steam. Big time. Word to Peter Gabriel. It ain’t dead yet, but the hype is beginning to fade. Radio stations that dropped modern rock and easy listening formats in favor of reggaeton are beginning to see their ratings plummet. A few of them have already dropped reggaeton in favor of salsa music. While I’d much rather hear Air Supply than whoever it is that makes salsa music, this should still be viewed as a step in the right direction.

The problem with reggaeton, it seems, is that there are only five reggaeton songs, and none of them are particularly worth listening to. Hispanics, who are a very proud people (hence the flags on their cars and what have you), were willing to patronize these artists for quite some time out of a sense of racial pride, but even they have a limit. Also, even at the rate that hispanics tend to procreate, it’s going to be difficult for the genre to experience any significant growth unless it expands outside the hispanic community. Black people don’t like “Rompe.” White people don’t like “Rompe.” And there aren’t too many reggaeton songs that aren’t “Rompe.”

Rompe, rompe, rompe!

That said, it’d be naive of us to think that we’re out of the woods just yet when it comes to “latin” music in general. According to the oft-quoted statistic, which may or may not have been invented by Pat Buchanan, the United States will be fifty percent Mexican by 2050. Reggaeton might end up going the way of rap-rock just by virtue of the fact that it sucks; but unless we put up a fence or something, we should probably get used to hearing some form of awful hispanic music. In fact, there may very well be a day when the hip-hop community looks back fondly on the brief period in which reggaeton ruled the airwaves.

In other words, we really do need a fence!

king cobra · Senior Member

Is it me, or is this article just a little racist?

http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=1529