Anybody watch the new Simpson's yesterday? I was all about this peanut alergy thing.... lol
Turns out Bart's allergic to shrimp and if u let ur child be brought up sheltered from the paeanuty world he will grow up to be a elementary school principal that never gets married and lives with his mom at the age of 50.
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what? you found Manuel Noreaga? In the Phillipines? He has a mansion? Ok, we on it, on it, right now!
Well hmmm... I think they're right to isolate the person who brings the lunch just because that is preventable while being a weirdito(a) with the food allergy cannot be helped.
I pity the fool who has allergies and this particular one seemed quite retarded to me until today. Hypersensitivity to peanuts can provoke a systematic anawhatever (anaphylactic) reaction which blocks the airways. Fluids pass from the tissues into the lungs, blood pressure drops and plasma escapes into the tissues causing shock. Cardiac shock can develop and cause death within 1 to 2 minutes. Inhalation of peanut dust on airplanes is enough to produce allergic reactions. Remember a teenager recently died because the bf had eaten a pb sandwich and then kissed her? Scary stuff!
It's not known what causes the allergies as of yet but one proposal is that exposure of newborns and young children (1-2 years of age) to these foods is the culprit. The exposure occurs through breast milk, peanut butter or other foods. The immune system in newborns is immature and develops over the first few years. So it's recommended that you avoid these during pregnancy and the first three years of life. Although, I just learned today that a new study suggest that we are what our grandmother ate/did when she was preggers with our mothers. FASCINATING! As a matter of fact, I'm posting that as a new topic.
This is a very interesting topic. I was discussing this with a friend who's kid is in school now. I don't think that either of the children should be isolated. Parents should notify the school of their child's allergies. The child should then understand not to take anything that their parent hasn't put in their lunch bag.
In other words, tell your kids "Don't mooch food off your friends mothafukaz!!!"
MellowMan, I agree 100% with ya. Leave them kids alone!
Well my friend don't get upset with me but as an Early Childhood Educator, unfortunally children with allergies or any disabilities they already feel left out and because of that we have to make them feel comfortable and reasure them that even though they have allergies or any special disabilities that they are as special as any other child in the school or childcare setting. Therefore by what the teachers and ECE's have been taught is not to Isolate the child with the disability or allergy because they already feel like they are not normal as other children. I totally understand how you feel but think about how that child with the special need already feels. I for myself my child has a list of allergies, and I'm also glad that he has no allergies to foods but I'm also aware of other children in the school because you always have to think what about if my child had allergies and how would I feel or my child feel if he was ISOLATED from other children he/she would be eating alone cause they can't be contact with whatever they are allergic to. Is not a big of a deal and for those parents that send their kids to their grandparents or babysitter they have to have an open communication a let them know what the children can bring to school for lunch.
I understand that, but my point is that for some it's just more then a small allergic reation that's why i gave that example. That poor boy will always have to carry his medication just in case he ever gets in contact with peanut. And sorry, but it's just natural in me to go all mommy on these "children" topics!
The only thing i'm allegeric to is cats. I can be around them, but if i touch them then my eyes swell up!
The severity of the reaction was sort of my point hense the natural selection reference. I was just being facetious for the sake of good debate en el foro.
meeh who am I kidding, Im just a bastard like that! lol
-- Edited by Phantasma at 13:45, 2006-09-15
I am nominating Phanta for the "Father of the Year" award.
I propose we neuter Phanta instead!
All in favour say "Aye"
Phanta, you can say, "Ay"!
OMG LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!! AYE!11 LOL LOL
BUFFY U KILL ME!!!
I second that motion.
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I understand that, but my point is that for some it's just more then a small allergic reation that's why i gave that example. That poor boy will always have to carry his medication just in case he ever gets in contact with peanut. And sorry, but it's just natural in me to go all mommy on these "children" topics!
The only thing i'm allegeric to is cats. I can be around them, but if i touch them then my eyes swell up!
The severity of the reaction was sort of my point hense the natural selection reference. I was just being facetious for the sake of good debate en el foro.
meeh who am I kidding, Im just a bastard like that! lol
-- Edited by Phantasma at 13:45, 2006-09-15
I am nominating Phanta for the "Father of the Year" award.
I understand that, but my point is that for some it's just more then a small allergic reation that's why i gave that example. That poor boy will always have to carry his medication just in case he ever gets in contact with peanut. And sorry, but it's just natural in me to go all mommy on these "children" topics!
The only thing i'm allegeric to is cats. I can be around them, but if i touch them then my eyes swell up!
The severity of the reaction was sort of my point hense the natural selection reference. I was just being facetious for the sake of good debate en el foro.
meeh who am I kidding, Im just a bastard like that! lol
-- Edited by Phantasma at 13:45, 2006-09-15
I am nominating Phanta for the "Father of the Year" award.
I understand that, but my point is that for some it's just more then a small allergic reation that's why i gave that example. That poor boy will always have to carry his medication just in case he ever gets in contact with peanut. And sorry, but it's just natural in me to go all mommy on these "children" topics!
The only thing i'm allegeric to is cats. I can be around them, but if i touch them then my eyes swell up!
The severity of the reaction was sort of my point hense the natural selection reference. I was just being facetious for the sake of good debate en el foro.
meeh who am I kidding, Im just a bastard like that! lol
-- Edited by Phantasma at 13:45, 2006-09-15 I am nominating Phanta for the "Father of the Year" award.
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Ok, so those allergies might have existed since ever but how come now kids are much more sensitive ? I am really curious. Didi parents feed them too early with this kind of food ? you know how you are not suppose to give them this and that until a certain age, etc...
Plus, I do think that BUffy's comment make sense : maek them eat or be in contact with the food, or the animals.....
Luna, I was and still is allergic to cats and I have 3. I haven't have any reaction in, pffft, years. I do have some to other pple cats and dogs but nothing major and it goes right away. I know it's going to kick my in the ass in few years, but I anot going to stop living because of that.
Plus, treatment exists, I know, shots, every week for quite some time, etc...like a vaccin, it work for few years and them, you have to do it again.
But once again, I really think that putting the kid in constant contact with the allergogen will make i fade or even go away (and believe me, I have a lot of allergies)
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The children with allergies should be isolated. Food allergies are more prevelent than before BUT those with it still don't out number those who don't have any.
I understand that, but my point is that for some it's just more then a small allergic reation that's why i gave that example. That poor boy will always have to carry his medication just in case he ever gets in contact with peanut. And sorry, but it's just natural in me to go all mommy on these "children" topics!
The only thing i'm allegeric to is cats. I can be around them, but if i touch them then my eyes swell up!
The severity of the reaction was sort of my point hense the natural selection reference. I was just being facetious for the sake of good debate en el foro.
meeh who am I kidding, Im just a bastard like that! lol
-- Edited by Phantasma at 13:45, 2006-09-15
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what? you found Manuel Noreaga? In the Phillipines? He has a mansion? Ok, we on it, on it, right now!
So you can't just say that they are not ready for the real world because to some people it can be fatal as opposed to just a rash on their skin.
I guess you're not all that familiar with how "Natural Selection" works.... cause thats sort of the point of it. just to clarify... I seriously wouldnt wish anything like that on anybody's kids. so dont start gettin all mommy on me.
I understand that, but my point is that for some it's just more then a small allergic reation that's why i gave that example. That poor boy will always have to carry his medication just in case he ever gets in contact with peanut. And sorry, but it's just natural in me to go all mommy on these "children" topics!
The only thing i'm allegeric to is cats. I can be around them, but if i touch them then my eyes swell up!
@ Buffy... what happens if they're allergic to cats? would you force them to eat cats?
I kid I kid.. my son is allergic to cats... he can still be around them but as soon as he touches any cat dander, he's eyes get swollen and he can't breathe my poor little guy
*note to self * Phanta makes little children cry
-- Edited by luna chiquitita at 13:09, 2006-09-15
im the same way luna cats and dogs with fur! But i still go to friends homes with cats and stuff and to be honest theres meds for this! but lately i have noticed that since i have been in contact with more cats its kinda deminished a bit!
So you can't just say that they are not ready for the real world because to some people it can be fatal as opposed to just a rash on their skin.
I guess you're not all that familiar with how "Natural Selection" works.... cause thats sort of the point of it. just to clarify... I seriously wouldnt wish anything like that on anybody's kids. so dont start gettin all mommy on me.
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what? you found Manuel Noreaga? In the Phillipines? He has a mansion? Ok, we on it, on it, right now!
@ Buffy... what happens if they're allergic to cats? would you force them to eat cats?
I kid I kid.. my son is allergic to cats... he can still be around them but as soon as he touches any cat dander, he's eyes get swollen and he can't breathe my poor little guy
So what's your solution? You'd "take care of them" á la pulp fiction?
You know what I'd do if my kids had a peanut allergy? I'd use the "reverse psychology" method and feed them peanuts for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Maybe a little exposure to peanuts would cure them of the allergies. What'd you guys think? Would this work?
well in the olden days what they would do is just have a whole lot of kids that way diseace, the elements and roaming predators would take care of the weaker ones. If half of your kids made it that was concidered a good turn out.
If you're not willing to do that, then I say you constantly tease them about how lame it is to be allergic to peanuts. That outta toughen them up!
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what? you found Manuel Noreaga? In the Phillipines? He has a mansion? Ok, we on it, on it, right now!
You know what I'd do if my kids had a peanut allergy? I'd use the "reverse psychology" method and feed them peanuts for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Maybe a little exposure to peanuts would cure them of the allergies. What'd you guys think? Would this work?
It actually has proven to work. Kids are resiliant, but it's the parents who are afraid to try it.
I know every person is different and with a child you don't want to take chances, but my ex business partner was allergic to peppers all his life, he would actually stop breathing.
After working with me and our Indian partner, he was scarfing down the hottest Indian food with no reaction whatsoever.
I dunno, I'm asthmatic and I smoke so what do i know.
Phantasma wrote: this MIGHT be a bit of an unpopular answer here...
But if your kids are not fit to be around some freakin peanuts...maybe they're just not fit to live in the real world. I know its a little mean but cmon the real world is full of waaaaaay more dangerous stuff and if the kid cant make it pass peanuts and tuna then it may just be natural selection doing what it is supposed to do. Im just saying...
It's not easy as you say! I have a friend who's 3 yrd old is allergic to Peanut butter. His reaction is, if he is in contact with peanut he has an attack. The scary part was when he stopped breathing. I don't know what the reactions to other kids are. Maybe for others it's just a skin reaction, but sadly not for all it's the same.
So you can't just say that they are not ready for the real world because to some people it can be fatal as opposed to just a rash on their skin.
Phantasma wrote: this MIGHT be a bit of an unpopular answer here...
But if your kids are not fit to be around some freakin peanuts...maybe they're just not fit to live in the real world. I know its a little mean but cmon the real world is full of waaaaaay more dangerous stuff and if the kid cant make it pass peanuts and tuna then it may just be natural selection doing what it is supposed to do. Im just saying...
So what's your solution? You'd "take care of them" á la pulp fiction?
You know what I'd do if my kids had a peanut allergy? I'd use the "reverse psychology" method and feed them peanuts for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Maybe a little exposure to peanuts would cure them of the allergies. What'd you guys think? Would this work?
this MIGHT be a bit of an unpopular answer here...
But if your kids are not fit to be around some freakin peanuts...maybe they're just not fit to live in the real world. I know its a little mean but cmon the real world is full of waaaaaay more dangerous stuff and if the kid cant make it pass peanuts and tuna then it may just be natural selection doing what it is supposed to do. Im just saying...
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what? you found Manuel Noreaga? In the Phillipines? He has a mansion? Ok, we on it, on it, right now!
That's so wrong. I would be upset if they isolated my child by sitting him outside the principals office. BUt then again, i will not be sending my child with lunches that contain ingredients that other children may be allergic to. This is a tough question to respond to. But it is a good idea for the children with allergies to sit with other's that have the same problem. But i still think that's crazy because they won't be able to interact with their friends during snack/lunch time.
This situation is a very delicate one, because it raises a big issue on the school and they have to find the appropriate way to handle this. Every school has it's own rules and procedures. My son's school doesn't allow any products with peanuts, so hope hopefully every parent follows that.
All of these allergies have been around for years. I don't understand why it has become that big of an issue now!?!? Kids should be able to bring whatever they want for lunch. C'mon tuna sandwiches and egg sandwiches are so common, not to mention a staple in a growing kids' diet. If this does cause concern to parents of kids' with allergies, then they must develop a different system. Maybe different corners of the lunchroom would be dedicated to different foods!?!? Sounds weird, but that's alot better than isolating anybody and banning foods!!
They should just divide the cafeteria into two separate sections. One side could be for the children with allergies, and the other for the children without allergies. That way they are all in the same room, but not coming in to contact with any food that might be harmful for some kids. Although putting the children with allergies in a different room is a good idea; it might make them feel bad and unwanted.
Hope parents don't get too mad or out of control with this restriction. The last thing we need in this world is some lunatic showing up to school with a peanut butter/egg/tuna threat
Marky Mark wrote: People are so retarded these days. Peanut allergies have existed for years. No one I know has one, kids outgrow them anyway. Hell you become sensitive to the sun if you're not exposed to it regularly.
I'm gonna go to these schools and start whipping peanuts at these asthmatic f*cks and have them sit outside and chew on a tuna fritata.
Damn these schools and their stupid rules!!!!
oooh lunch time!!
You're going to make a great father one day. Please refer to the "dreams/aspirations" thread. And considering what Lahtina wants to name your kids, the poor bastards are going to have some real traumas.
But you're right somehow. Everything is bad nowadays. If you drin a bottle of scotch everyday, malo. You smoke pot three times a day, malo. You eat 7 eggs and 5 bacon strips for breakfast, even worse. What's the world coming to?
Marky Mark wrote: People are so retarded these days. Peanut allergies have existed for years. No one I know has one, kids outgrow them anyway. Hell you become sensitive to the sun if you're not exposed to it regularly.
I'm gonna go to these schools and start whipping peanuts at these asthmatic f*cks and have them sit outside and chew on a tuna fritata.
Damn these schools and their stupid rules!!!!
oooh lunch time!!
Did u forget your lunch again? LMAO
But I agree with Genie, the better idea would be to make the allergic children eat in another room. I know a few parents freaked out yesterday, they went to talk to the principal and everything, so I gotta see the memo they send home this week. As for me, I know my daughter wont be taking any of that stuff to school so she`ll be good.
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People are so retarded these days. Peanut allergies have existed for years. No one I know has one, kids outgrow them anyway. Hell you become sensitive to the sun if you're not exposed to it regularly.
I'm gonna go to these schools and start whipping peanuts at these asthmatic f*cks and have them sit outside and chew on a tuna fritata.
oooh.. that's a toughie COLO... kids are now being limited as to what they can and cannot take to school. Last year at my son's school, they banned eating snacks outside, so the kids lose 5 minutes of their recess to eat their snacks inside the classroom. The way things are going, I'm sure pretty soon, they are going to be sending kids home to eat.
As for who should be isolated... school policies vary from district to district but what they're doing at my son's school is sending the kids with allergies to other classrooms. Either way, the only real solution is to ensure you don't send you kids to school with the banned item.
Which brings up another question:
WHERE DID ALL THESE ALLERGIES COME FROM??? I don't remember having this problem when I was in grade school.
I remember last year my daughter`s school also informed us that the children could not eat their snacks outside. I didnt really have a problem with that, as long as they are giving them the time to eat their snack. As for the allergies, for real, I dont remember anyone in my school having these allergies when I was in elementary school.
@Buffy - for real. Well, I understand tuna sandwiches. My daughter does not like them anymore so I dont send them. She`s more into hot food, so I will make extra food for dinner so there is enough for her to take for lunch (e.g. today she took rice, baked chicken and potatos). The nights when Im not home to make dinner she likes taking chef boyardee, Mac and cheese, or ham sandwiches.
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so in conclusion, who do you think should be "isolated" (for lack of a better word), the children with the allergies or the children who bring in the lunch???
I think what lunas kids school is doing is good! have the kids with allergies eat all together in another class room! I mean its not fair to either child but 9/10 chances is that one or more kid will bring in an allergic sandwhich! But with so many options out there the parents of both children should be cautious!
oh my its so true where did all these allergies come from??? i remember i used to love peanut butter and jelly sandwiches mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm still do they are the best!!!!!
WHY NOT JUST: seat the kid with the tuna/egg/peanutbutter lunch on one side of the dinning area... and the allergic one at the other end of the room... SINCE THERE IS AN OLDER VOLUNTEER, He/She can make sure these two kids don't even bother making eye contact and NOT touch the food the allergic kid is allergic to.
BAHH... that would be too simple for them too think of.
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oooh.. that's a toughie COLO... kids are now being limited as to what they can and cannot take to school. Last year at my son's school, they banned eating snacks outside, so the kids lose 5 minutes of their recess to eat their snacks inside the classroom. The way things are going, I'm sure pretty soon, they are going to be sending kids home to eat.
As for who should be isolated... school policies vary from district to district but what they're doing at my son's school is sending the kids with allergies to other classrooms. Either way, the only real solution is to ensure you don't send you kids to school with the banned item.
Which brings up another question:
WHERE DID ALL THESE ALLERGIES COME FROM??? I don't remember having this problem when I was in grade school.
The kids with Tuna and Egg breath should be isolated
For real though I don't think it should be an issue. If the rule is no egg or tuna for lunch than fine I wouldn't pack that for lunch.
Obviously, but the teacher said, sometimes it may not be the parent making the lunch. Maybe a grandparent who is babysitting and they dont know. No offense to anyone who has kids with allergies, I thank God that up till now my kids dont have to deal with that. But I think the children with the allergies should sit in a different area.
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This is a very interesting topic. I was discussing this with a friend who's kid is in school now. I don't think that either of the children should be isolated. Parents should notify the school of their child's allergies. The child should then understand not to take anything that their parent hasn't put in their lunch bag.
In other words, tell your kids "Don't mooch food off your friends mothafukaz!!!"
Last night I went to my daughter`s curriculum night at school. They pretty much fill us in on what the children will be learning that year, school expectations, etc. Anyway, when they were covering the topic about the safety of the children, one of the obvious requests was not to send any peanut products to the school, which is something that has been enforced for years. One of the teachers brought up the fact that now a days some kids have allergies to tuna and egg as well and suggested that children not bring lunches containing these products, because for some kids even minor contact with these foods can cause severe, sometimes fatal, allergic reactions. He mentioned that if for some odd reason the child brings tuna or egg for lunch (at times the parent may forget or it may not be the parent making the lunch), the child is to tell the teacher. This is the fun part: what they will then do with the child is have them go with a buddy or with a monitor (someone from an older grade), to have lunch at a table outside the principal's office. Now after this was said a few parents got very livid and said that why not make the children that have the allergies eat in another room. The teacher replied that apparently they dont want to isolate the child with the allergy. But yet they want to isolate the child that brought in the tuna or egg. He said that this was not done as a form of punishment but as a precaution.
So in conclusion, who do you think should be "isolated" (for lack of a better word), the children with the allergies or the children who bring in the lunch???
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Let me get off this stupid laptop and I'll post the article.
I know you guys didn't ignore my very interesting post on purpose, so I'm butting it. 
I kid I kid.. my son is allergic to cats... he can still be around them but as soon as he touches any cat dander, he's eyes get swollen and he can't breathe 
* Phanta makes little children cry
Please refer to the "dreams/aspirations" thread. And considering what Lahtina wants to name your kids, the poor bastards are going to have some real traumas. 
