I think her mother is doing the right thing the wrong way. You can't just give it to her and let her off scott free to have sex. The child (i say that because her age deems the word) needs to be explained why she is getting the BC pills, (like mentione before) the risks that are involved (especially is she is a smoker in hidding) and the consequences of both being on the pill and not i mean she does have her sister as an example of not being on it. Not to mention that being on the "pill" does not guarantee you won't get pregnant. Is the child old enough to realize that it's more of a responsibility, shoot i know grown women that can't even remember to take it everyday not to mention at the same time.
She is being pro-active as oppose to re-active, nothing wrong with that. I do think it's a little young but if she feels her daughter is at "risk" of having sex then she made the right choice.
Jesus, I don't even have to post anymore. I just wait for Soloyo or Luna to post their answers and then I just have to agree.
I say after 12 its lunch. and shes gonna be 14 in 2 weeks?? ripe age.
seriously though, i seen lil girls dress like they knew wats up.... 15 year olds wearing sh it not even my stripper friends would wear. i've smacked my lil sister once or twice for sh it she'd wanna wear to school and to parties.... the solution isnt birth control...its just like Russell Petter's says "beat ur mothafukin kids"
I can see the mother's reasons for taking this action with her daughter. I know a lot people are saying that "proper parenting" will do the trick but this is not always the case. It pretty much comes down to the child wanting to listen. Trust me, my mom was, or at least, tried to be very strict with me. She would always tell me "the day you come home pregnant, you're not my daughter anymore, Im kicking you out", the whole nine yards. Anyway, I ended up getting pregnant young and obviously, my mom did not turn her back on me. She used to say that pretty much para meterme susto. As for the comment that she should learn from her older sister's mistakes, most people dont learn from others' mistakes, they learn the hard way making their own mistakes. I think education and open communication plays a big role, but at times taking the "extra" step can avoid bigger problems. My 2 cents.
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Exactly how do you suppose COMMUNICATION will stop a 13,14,15 year old from having sex or a baby?
Your parents can raise you are they wish however, your enviroinment also plays a big role your decisions. Once you leave the confines of your home kids are usually different people. And Yes parents can teach us right and wrong but ultimately it's our decision. I am sure there were times when we knew we were doing something wrong (we knew it because our parent taught us) yet we did it. Weather it was due to peer presure of what ever.
How manu time have parent left the child at home alone and said no parties.. people still do it anyways. You reach an age where you are responsible for your decisions.
I am a 100% beliver that COMMUNICATION is a key in stopping your kids for doing things that will affect their future, if you know the consequences,. you will be more awared and will take a smarter decision,..of course it is gonna be your decision (it doesn't matter how old you are) but the way you think, your values ,. etc,.will help you to take the best decision,. and those come since you were born,.. not when you reach certain age (when the girls get her period so she CAN NOW get pregnant) that some parents start to worrying about what can happen,.. And of curse peer presure and whatever you want to say about our society,. but talking about my experience ,...I was betwen gans, drugs, sexual active kids,. etc,.and did I do it?? NO,.. most of my high school friends had at least a child when they were around 14-15,. and I know that part of that was result of lack of values/communication etc in the family,. most of them were trying to runn away from things in their house,. etc,. ,. and unfortunately some of them are already separated and are single moms,. my mom since i was probably 10 talked to me openly,. and even before that,. she alwasy taught me that having children is difficult,. you need to be responsible etc,.
Besides I am PRO Abstinence,. I would say to a kid first do not have sex and then if hers/his hormones can not be controled ,. i would tell them to have it responsiblely,..but I would give let them know about both,..
I think her mother is doing the right thing the wrong way. You can't just give it to her and let her off scott free to have sex. The child (i say that because her age deems the word) needs to be explained why she is getting the BC pills, (like mentione before) the risks that are involved (especially is she is a smoker in hidding) and the consequences of both being on the pill and not i mean she does have her sister as an example of not being on it. Not to mention that being on the "pill" does not guarantee you won't get pregnant. Is the child old enough to realize that it's more of a responsibility, shoot i know grown women that can't even remember to take it everyday not to mention at the same time.
She is being pro-active as oppose to re-active, nothing wrong with that. I do think it's a little young but if she feels her daughter is at "risk" of having sex then she made the right choice.
I think her mother is doing the right thing the wrong way. You can't just give it to her and let her off scott free to have sex. The child (i say that because her age deems the word) needs to be explained why she is getting the BC pills, (like mentione before) the risks that are involved (especially is she is a smoker in hidding) and the consequences of both being on the pill and not i mean she does have her sister as an example of not being on it. Not to mention that being on the "pill" does not guarantee you won't get pregnant. Is the child old enough to realize that it's more of a responsibility, shoot i know grown women that can't even remember to take it everyday not to mention at the same time.
She is being pro-active as oppose to re-active, nothing wrong with that. I do think it's a little young but if she feels her daughter is at "risk" of having sex then she made the right choice.
Guadalupana wrote: She's not a good mother, by the looks of it, just because today's kids are messed up, she won't put her foot down and at least straighten out her own kids?! Give me a break. How about teaching the younger girl to learn from other's mistakes (her older sister)...that's a start.
Since when is being a responsible parent wrong? Ok maybe she went about it the wrong way, but she learned from her previous child that what she did or didn't do with regards to SEX didn't work cause she had a baby. So she is trying a new approach. Would you rather have another teenage mother walking to highschool with her child in Phat Pharm shoes and NIKE outfit that your taxes and mine paid for?
I wouldn't put my daughter on BC pills a such young agem but,.. I completly understand that they are working parents and everything going on with kids nowdays but ,. the decisions that our children make during their life is based on the way we have raised them,. of course they will make mistakes but they will know the consequences,. and one important thing to prevent things like having kids a young age is COMMUNICATION ,.. as Genie mentioned parentscan not be there 24/7 but quality time is essential in the family,.. and I was raised by a single working mother ,..
Now everyone is saying that is wrong or is not that good,. etc,.. but what about giving condom to BOYS a young age,..???? I have seen parents giving condoms to their boys at age 14 ?? is that wrong ??? why is different for girls??? And I wouldn't give my son condoms a that age,..
Exactly how do you suppose COMMUNICATION will stop a 13,14,15 year old from having sex or a baby?
Your parents can raise you are they wish however, your enviroinment also plays a big role your decisions. Once you leave the confines of your home kids are usually different people. And Yes parents can teach us right and wrong but ultimately it's our decision. I am sure there were times when we knew we were doing something wrong (we knew it because our parent taught us) yet we did it. Weather it was due to peer presure of what ever.
How manu time have parent left the child at home alone and said no parties.. people still do it anyways. You reach an age where you are responsible for your decisions.
I say after 12 its lunch. and shes gonna be 14 in 2 weeks?? ripe age.
seriously though, i seen lil girls dress like they knew wats up.... 15 year olds wearing sh it not even my stripper friends would wear. i've smacked my lil sister once or twice for sh it she'd wanna wear to school and to parties.... the solution isnt birth control...its just like Russell Petter's says "beat ur mothafukin kids"
I dont know about you guys but when i went to the doctor and maybe its just my doctor!! He would always ask to speak to me alone! Dont you guys think that maybe just maybe the girl had a choice and the doctor would not give the perscription if she truly didnt want it! Dont you know that doctors wont give ur parents pills for you if you dont want to take it!! So if anything maybe just maybe the little girl also has a fear of pregnancy and just maybe wants to be on them as well!!!
I wouldn't put my daughter on BC pills a such young agem but,.. I completly understand that they are working parents and everything going on with kids nowdays but ,. the decisions that our children make during their life is based on the way we have raised them,. of course they will make mistakes but they will know the consequences,. and one important thing to prevent things like having kids a young age is COMMUNICATION ,.. as Genie mentioned parentscan not be there 24/7 but quality time is essential in the family,.. and I was raised by a single working mother ,..
Now everyone is saying that is wrong or is not that good,. etc,.. but what about giving condom to BOYS a young age,..???? I have seen parents giving condoms to their boys at age 14 ?? is that wrong ??? why is different for girls??? And I wouldn't give my son condoms a that age,..
JUST BECAUSE ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS GOT PREGNANT AT THE AGE OF 15 DOESN'T MEAN THE OTHER ONE WILL.....
PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT PUT MY DAUGHTER ON BIRTH CONTROL.... ESPECIALLY NOT AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE.... PUTTING MY DAUGHTER ON BIRTH CONTROL IS LIKE ME SAYING IT'S OK FOR HER TO GO AND HAVE SEX!!!
I THINK THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR HER TO BE PUT ON BIRTH CONTROL THAT IT WILL BE HER DECISON .... NOT MINE.... JUST AS LONG AS IT'S NOT 13!!!
UH HA!!! So it's YOU the co-worker JC was referring about!!
No, she's not necesarily a bad mother for the "mistake/failure" of the first daughter... nor is she necesarily a good/bad mother for putting her second daughter on birth control. It's not what I would do as a parent, but then again... I didn't have the same experiences this lady did.
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Pelon` wrote: Wow this just sounds so messed up. Obviously the parent wasn't there for the other kids and now she's trying to make it all better by giving her youngest pills so she could prevent another pregancy. Mom wasn't there enough for her children and now wants to blame society for a problem she could have prevented long ago. Blaming the society doesn't fix her wrong doing. And by saying "it's gonna happen sooner or later". First thing that crosses my mom "vieja sin verg.uenza!! Mom's like that piss me off! I wouldn't talk to that damn lady if I were you. Vieja pen.deja I swear. Excuses like that don't cut it for me.
-- Edited by Pelon` at 11:25, 2006-09-14
why are we so quick to judge the mother?? I mean what about the Father what does he say in all this?? How do we know its not a single mother working hard to give her daughters what they need not extras? I mean what if she did educate her daughters about sex and the older one just did it and now what if shes just being cautious because she wants her daughter to have a better future?? and we are so quick to judge the parents but im sorry they cant be around 24/7!!!!
Did you see him mention a father in the picture. Reason why I pointed out the mother okay. And if he's in the picture el como ella tienen la culpa en esto.. but the girl is only 14!! Definitely alli esta algo malo! If she's working hard me alegro but giving her the pill? Se serio ta jodido eso, that justify she's or he's not the one to blame. Los padres como la hija tiene la culpa.
JUST BECAUSE ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS GOT PREGNANT AT THE AGE OF 15 DOESN'T MEAN THE OTHER ONE WILL.....
PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT PUT MY DAUGHTER ON BIRTH CONTROL.... ESPECIALLY NOT AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE.... PUTTING MY DAUGHTER ON BIRTH CONTROL IS LIKE ME SAYING IT'S OK FOR HER TO GO AND HAVE SEX!!!
I THINK THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR HER TO BE PUT ON BIRTH CONTROL THAT IT WILL BE HER DECISON .... NOT MINE.... JUST AS LONG AS IT'S NOT 13!!!
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Pelon` wrote: Wow this just sounds so messed up. Obviously the parent wasn't there for the other kids and now she's trying to make it all better by giving her youngest pills so she could prevent another pregancy. Mom wasn't there enough for her children and now wants to blame society for a problem she could have prevented long ago. Blaming the society doesn't fix her wrong doing. And by saying "it's gonna happen sooner or later". First thing that crosses my mom "vieja sin verg.uenza!! Mom's like that piss me off! I wouldn't talk to that damn lady if I were you. Vieja pen.deja I swear. Excuses like that don't cut it for me.
-- Edited by Pelon` at 11:26, 2006-09-14
From what I've know she is not a bad parent. Her and her husband work really hard to support their kids. I guess that's the gift and the curse for working parents. You work during the day to give your kids a better life, but can't be home to have control or an idea of what your kids are doing. Don't think she's a bad mother though.
Pelon` wrote: Wow this just sounds so messed up. Obviously the parent wasn't there for the other kids and now she's trying to make it all better by giving her youngest pills so she could prevent another pregancy. Mom wasn't there enough for her children and now wants to blame society for a problem she could have prevented long ago. Blaming the society doesn't fix her wrong doing. And by saying "it's gonna happen sooner or later". First thing that crosses my mom "vieja sin verg.uenza!! Mom's like that piss me off! I wouldn't talk to that damn lady if I were you. Vieja pen.deja I swear. Excuses like that don't cut it for me.
-- Edited by Pelon` at 11:25, 2006-09-14
why are we so quick to judge the mother?? I mean what about the Father what does he say in all this?? How do we know its not a single mother working hard to give her daughters what they need not extras? I mean what if she did educate her daughters about sex and the older one just did it and now what if shes just being cautious because she wants her daughter to have a better future?? and we are so quick to judge the parents but im sorry they cant be around 24/7!!!!
Wow this just sounds so messed up. Obviously the parent wasn't there for the other kids and now she's trying to make it all better by giving her youngest pills so she could prevent another pregancy. Mom wasn't there enough for her children and now wants to blame society for a problem she could have prevented long ago. Blaming the society doesn't fix her wrong doing. And by saying "it's gonna happen sooner or later". First thing that crosses my mom "vieja sin verg.uenza!! Mom's like that piss me off! I wouldn't talk to that damn lady if I were you. Vieja pen.deja I swear. Excuses like that don't cut it for me.
So I just found out that this lady that works with me has her 13 year old daughter on birth control. This is her youngest child and says she got her on it because her oldest daughter got pregnant at 15 and doesn't want her to have a child out of wedlock and without a job/education. Plus she says the way kids are growing up she's most likely going to have anyways. She knows her two other kids had sex before the turned 15.
Do you guys think it's a good idea for her to have put her 13 year old on birth control? She turns 14 in 2 weeks.
I personally would not want to do that to my kid, but if I had a bad experience like she's had I would either do it, or consider it for sure. And she's right she's most likely going to do it, and it will be sooner than later.
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I know little girls at the age of 10 who take birth control but its mainly to regulate there period unfortunately its the only to get a normal period so they are put on it for medical reasons.
In regards to your co-worker, i guess shes afraid and i mean its normal that the young one will follow in her sisters footsteps!! sometimes we dont know how older siblings have an influence over younger ones, i think the mom is being safe and smart im sorry but know a days sex is everywhere better safe then sorry.
As to the side effects Doctors now a days are so much more advanced and educated that im sure there doctor gave her something safe for her! with not to many side effects
Jamie tell your co-worker that your not being metiche but to take her to Sick Childrens Sexual Clinic! its very good and they can educate her daughter on birth control or her too and the doctors are amazing. My doctor sent me there at 15 to learn about all that stuff and it was the best info i ever got!
@ Guada... saying she is not a good mother is pretty extreme. She is quite possibly a very good mother but out of fear is reacting in this way.
I agree whole-heartedly that the mother needs to educate her daugher and her other kids about birth control, safe sex, STDs and the responsibilities that come with having sex. However, I think more than anything that the mother needs to become educated herself. After the first daugther became pregnant, she should have looked for ways to talk to her other children and how to cope with teenagers having sex at a young age.
You can't educate your children, if you yourself haven't been educated.
Guadalupana wrote: She's not a good mother, by the looks of it, just because today's kids are messed up, she won't put her foot down and at least straighten out her own kids?! Give me a break. How about teaching the younger girl to learn from other's mistakes (her older sister)...that's a start.
Kinda brings us to the topic about Canadian (North American) laws that prevent parents from raising their arm at the kids. I don't think a little belt in the behind ever killed anyone. That's what some of us would have received back home - or even here - when we were growing up and it didn't kills us.
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Guadalupana wrote: She's not a good mother, by the looks of it, just because today's kids are messed up, she won't put her foot down and at least straighten out her own kids?! Give me a break. How about teaching the younger girl to learn from other's mistakes (her older sister)...that's a start.
Sadly enough there are some kids that don't learn.
She's not a good mother, by the looks of it, just because today's kids are messed up, she won't put her foot down and at least straighten out her own kids?! Give me a break. How about teaching the younger girl to learn from other's mistakes (her older sister)...that's a start.
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That is an extreme thing to do. I find it hard to believe that the mother cannot educate her daughter properly on the matter. Either that or the mother really has no control or trust in her daughter.
If the daughter is fully aware of the potential side effects of the pill, is responsible enough to take them every day and agrees with her mother then I suppose it is ok. But if the daughter is unaware of the potential side effects, she may be resentful in the future.
Wow that's mess up, is like she is telling her go have sex cause u won't get pregnant, I don't have any kids right now but when I do I will tell them about sex n how is going 2 affect their life if they get in that situation early ( pregnant ) but I would not do that hell nah.
I will TALK to my daughter about sex and the possible consequences, such as STDs and pregnancy and all the feelings that go along with it. I will hopefully raise her to be SMART ENEOUGH to make smart decisions when the time comes for her - whenever it is, it will be up to her; but I just hope that she is smart enough to know better and to protect herself and make smart choices.
I would NOT be a parent to encourage her having sex before she is at least 16; but knowing kids nowadays, I know that a lot of kids don't wait that long. I would rather hope that she waits (as long as possible) before she has sex; but I will educate her to know that although I do not approve her getting sexually active at a young age, that I do want her to know how to protect herself, and IF she does choose to have sex, that she is best to use protection.
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So I just found out that this lady that works with me has her 13 year old daughter on birth control. This is her youngest child and says she got her on it because her oldest daughter got pregnant at 15 and doesn't want her to have a child out of wedlock and without a job/education. Plus she says the way kids are growing up she's most likely going to have anyways. She knows her two other kids had sex before the turned 15.
Do you guys think it's a good idea for her to have put her 13 year old on birth control? She turns 14 in 2 weeks.
I personally would not want to do that to my kid, but if I had a bad experience like she's had I would either do it, or consider it for sure. And she's right she's most likely going to do it, and it will be sooner than later.
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