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With the increasing volume of security measures the United States has taken to ensure the "security" of the citizens of the wonderful nation, it makes one wonder how far the President will go with his political agenda to decapitate the people of Middle East. I strongly believe that Osama Bin Laden was paid a hefty amount to take the credit for the WTC 9/11 attacks.


After watching several documetaries of  Sept.11 and continous news coverage after the attacks, I can't help but feel appaled by the Canadian government's involvement in the massacre of hundreds of people in the Middle East, who perhaps did not agree with the supposed attacks  made by "extremists" of Islam. By sending more than 10.000 troops to Afghanistan and Iraq,  Canada sold themselves to the U.S.  It was not ncecessary for Canada to join in this war "against terrorism". George W. claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and guess who sold it to them? Yeah, the same government that trained Osama Bin Laden and his people to fight against the Soviet Union.  Since George W. came into office, he's been trying to fight his father's war. Bush Sr. started this whole load 0f crap when he gave the green light for the american forces to sell artillery and train militia soldiers in Afghanistan back in '91. When the truth is revealed 50 years from now [ which by the way, is how long the majority of "conspiracy theories" are proven to be true as per Compton's Encyclopedia 2005 edition online.] it will be too late to make George W. and his squad of military dressed homeboys up in Washington pay for their attrocities. ..


Just a quick lesson on Islam:
The Islamic faith forbids violence as a means to get a message across.  Although the Quran demands for followers of the faith to bear arms for a spiritual warfare [aka Jihad meaning Holy War, not to be fought in a physical state, but rather in a Spiritual realm] it's not the teachings Muslims hear at the local Mosques. The ignorance of the masses is why we see discrimination and racial profiling. If people took the time to invest into educating themselves about culture, customs and beliefs of the Middle East, people would realize that Islam does not promote violence in it's doctrine.


 


 


Luis Camilo:  If by any chance my mother, father, brother, sister, grandmother, wife, son daughter, nephew niece, neighbor, mailman, boss, dealer, foro member, the girl from the drive thru at Sunrise,  mistress,or child of a friend was to die due to terrorists attacks, there is NOTHING i can do that will prevent things to happen. Im not God, if **** happens it happens. It'd be an unfortunate event, but there is nothing I would be able to do.
Don't get too comfortable with your tone to me man, I don't know you, and you don't know me. My opinion is my opinion and yours is yours. Easy up your tone.



-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:47, 2006-09-17

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Luiscamilo wrote:



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canT people just move on with their lives after 9/11??


It may be the 5th anniversary of the tragedy, but why should I have to watch coverage on every damn channel of something that didnt affect me??


The US went to Afghanistan & Iraq and has killed more civiians in the past 5 years, then there were in the WTC buildings.


How come we dont see coverage of the people that died in the Middle East? or of the tragedies that continue to happen at Guantanamo Bay Prison or the "classified/ top secret" jails we continue to hear about on the news??


People need to watch the documentary "Loose Change"   google it, its on there.


 


OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN GOVERNEMNENT PLANNED AND LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN NYC.


 


 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726




-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:38, 2006-09-12





It's Ironic that you would think that way about 911. But at the same it's a shame that Canadian authorities had the opportunity of stopping a terrorist cell that was organized in our back yard (Toronto) and they were not able to go with their plans. It would have been good if they go on with their plans and kill your mother while she's  at work, or son in a day care or school and then ask you how you feel.


Yes many innocent life's have been lost in Baghdad and Afghanistan, but many children saw their parents die in a matter of minutes, (have you stop to think that maybe they were against war also, or were Muslim like the 73 that died at the WTC on Sept 11.


Next time be a little bit more intelligent  about what you say, someone that lost family there could be reading this; or it could be you are mourning the lost of a family member  because of a terrorist attack; reading something like this (how will you feel?).


Fortunately, we live in countries like Canada, England or the US where you can get into a train and feel safe not having to look over your shoulder  or worrying that the bus, subway or building you are in is going to blow up. 


Maybe you should joint the Canadian Armed Forces and get the sence of why they need to do it, but then againg you dont care if we are attacked by terrorist or not, it was all planned, you don't deserve to live here.


Luis Camilo


 





 


Bro the only reason 9-11 happen was because the U.S.A let it happen and the thing with the terrorist that happen here is a plot by the american so we can go and fight in Iraq because the british and them can't handle it, and if u remenber Canada said no to them to go to Iraq because it's not our businness so it piss them off



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CHIVO wrote:



canT people just move on with their lives after 9/11??


It may be the 5th anniversary of the tragedy, but why should I have to watch coverage on every damn channel of something that didnt affect me??


The US went to Afghanistan & Iraq and has killed more civiians in the past 5 years, then there were in the WTC buildings.


How come we dont see coverage of the people that died in the Middle East? or of the tragedies that continue to happen at Guantanamo Bay Prison or the "classified/ top secret" jails we continue to hear about on the news??


People need to watch the documentary "Loose Change"   google it, its on there.


 


OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN GOVERNEMNENT PLANNED AND LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN NYC.


 


 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726




-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:38, 2006-09-12





It's Ironic that you would think that way about 911. But at the same it's a shame that Canadian authorities had the opportunity of stopping a terrorist cell that was organized in our back yard (Toronto) and they were not able to go with their plans. It would have been good if they go on with their plans and kill your mother while she's  at work, or son in a day care or school and then ask you how you feel.


Yes many innocent life's have been lost in Baghdad and Afghanistan, but many children saw their parents die in a matter of minutes, (have you stop to think that maybe they were against war also, or were Muslim like the 73 that died at the WTC on Sept 11.


Next time be a little bit more intelligent  about what you say, someone that lost family there could be reading this; or it could be you are mourning the lost of a family member  because of a terrorist attack; reading something like this (how will you feel?).


Fortunately, we live in countries like Canada, England or the US where you can get into a train and feel safe not having to look over your shoulder  or worrying that the bus, subway or building you are in is going to blow up. 


Maybe you should joint the Canadian Armed Forces and get the sence of why they need to do it, but then againg you dont care if we are attacked by terrorist or not, it was all planned, you don't deserve to live here.


Luis Camilo


 



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 Hey Chivo!!!..That's what I thought when I saw everything over and over again on tv, it was all way too perfect.  The way the planes hit the buildings and the way the towers fell.  I told some guys at college that some one(s) inside the states had planned the whole thing, I don't know who, but i suspected some people with power.  I got some dirty looks but I was being honest about what I thought, I told them the towers fell down the way other structures fall (imploding) by carefully planned explossions, etc,etc.


 Only God and Satan know for sure what happened there, I think.






 


Translation: only God and George W. know wat happened.



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 Hey Chivo!!!..That's what I thought when I saw everything over and over again on tv, it was all way too perfect.  The way the planes hit the buildings and the way the towers fell.  I told some guys at college that some one(s) inside the states had planned the whole thing, I don't know who, but i suspected some people with power.  I got some dirty looks but I was being honest about what I thought, I told them the towers fell down the way other structures fall (imploding) by carefully planned explossions, etc,etc.


 Only God and Satan know for sure what happened there, I think.



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IT AFFECTED THE ENTIRE WORLD. WHY DO U THINK GAS PRICES ARE SO HIGH NOW. IT WAS DA EXCUSE FOR U.S. TO GO KILL MILLIONS MORE IN AFGHAN AND IRAQ AND TAKE OVER THEIR OIL. IT MIGHT OF NOT AFFECTED U IN DA SENSE DAT U DIDN'T LOSE ANY LOVED ONES BUT IT SURE FK'D MY LIFE OVER WHEN MY STOCKS DROPPED TO DA GROUND. I DO AGREE WITH DA FACT DAT I DON'T NEED TO BE REMINDED OF THIS EVENT EVERY YEAR BUT WE ARE STILL PAYING FOR DA CONSEQUENCES IN A FINANCIAL ASPECT.  



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Julie wrote:

LAB_ wrote:


i guess you meant you're not living in etc etc.

good for you.

however, I hope u do, at least, for next time you have to take a plane.

otherwise, you gonna piss in your pants looking at how stupid it all now is.
(as in laughing)

-- Edited by LAB_ at 22:43, 2006-09-12




Sorry, I meant living !


I love taking the airplane, but it makes me mad all those controls even if "necessary"





exactly my point. THAT is how EVEN you "live in fear" ... "even if "necessary"".

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CHIVO wrote:



canT people just move on with their lives after 9/11??


It may be the 5th anniversary of the tragedy, but why should I have to watch coverage on every damn channel of something that didnt affect me??


The US went to Afghanistan & Iraq and has killed more civiians in the past 5 years, then there were in the WTC buildings.


How come we dont see coverage of the people that died in the Middle East? or of the tragedies that continue to happen at Guantanamo Bay Prison or the "classified/ top secret" jails we continue to hear about on the news??


People need to watch the documentary "Loose Change"   google it, its on there.


 


OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN GOVERNEMNENT PLANNED AND LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN NYC.


 


 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726




-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:38, 2006-09-12




 


I agree with u, I was in Boston since sept 1 n all u saw in TV was about 911, I was going nuts 2 tell u the truth, I come back 2 Toronto on Sept. 11 there were more cops n army personnel in the airport then people flying, 2 tell u the truth I think that was the safes day 2 fly anywhere in the world.



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CHIVO wrote:



canT people just move on with their lives after 9/11??


It may be the 5th anniversary of the tragedy, but why should I have to watch coverage on every damn channel of something that didnt affect me??


The US went to Afghanistan & Iraq and has killed more civiians in the past 5 years, then there were in the WTC buildings.


How come we dont see coverage of the people that died in the Middle East? or of the tragedies that continue to happen at Guantanamo Bay Prison or the "classified/ top secret" jails we continue to hear about on the news??


People need to watch the documentary "Loose Change"   google it, its on there.


 


OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN GOVERNEMNENT PLANNED AND LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN NYC.


 


 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726




-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:38, 2006-09-12




Not only in the past 5 years.....but literally since I was born......and again, who cares HOW it was done.....innoncent people died in all situations......at the hands of the US......


911 was a big deal...but not as huge has they make it out to seem....by blocking every channel, every year to show coverage, footage, updates...etc...etc.....they didnt do the same for the Tsunai or for Katrina......but they do it for the WTC.....why? cuz it hit them where it hurt the most.....the "money central"



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LAB_ wrote:


i guess you meant you're not living in etc etc.

good for you.

however, I hope u do, at least, for next time you have to take a plane.

otherwise, you gonna piss in your pants looking at how stupid it all now is.
(as in laughing)

-- Edited by LAB_ at 22:43, 2006-09-12




Sorry, I meant living !


I love taking the airplane, but it makes me mad all those controls even if "necessary"



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that video link is fuked up yo.....   


sht is twisted for reals.



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Julie wrote:

My personal thoughts apart on this subject................I did affect all of us. Maybe not directly but it did.


And I am not leaving in a state of fear.


 


BTW, tu le hechas mas lena al fuego con ese thread.





i guess you meant you're not living in etc etc.

good for you.

however, I hope u do, at least, for next time you have to take a plane.

otherwise, you gonna piss in your pants looking at how stupid it all now is.
(as in laughing)

















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CHIVO wrote:



canT people just move on with their lives after 9/11??


It may be the 5th anniversary of the tragedy, but why should I have to watch coverage on every damn channel of something that didnt affect me??


The US went to Afghanistan & Iraq and has killed more civiians in the past 5 years, then there were in the WTC buildings.


How come we dont see coverage of the people that died in the Middle East? or of the tragedies that continue to happen at Guantanamo Bay Prison or the "classified/ top secret" jails we continue to hear about on the news??


People need to watch the documentary "Loose Change"   google it, its on there.


 


OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN GOVERNEMNENT PLANNED AND LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN NYC.


 


 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726



-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:38, 2006-09-12




 


I agree with u here, it didn't affect me, i think it a plot to justify their war in Iraq



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My personal thoughts apart on this subject................I did affect all of us. Maybe not directly but it did.


And I am not leaving in a state of fear.


 


BTW, tu le hechas mas lena al fuego con ese thread.



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it's called "feed the fear, since mind and stomach are full".


i mean, just think of the tsunami of december 2005. and we have, pretty much, gotten over it.

it's because they KNOW we'll be watching the f****** tely that they keep shoving all of that down our throats.

one of the best things of being in residence? My tv broke last year, and I don't seem to find the time to replace it!

F*** (bad) TV!




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canT people just move on with their lives after 9/11??


It may be the 5th anniversary of the tragedy, but why should I have to watch coverage on every damn channel of something that didnt affect me??


The US went to Afghanistan & Iraq and has killed more civiians in the past 5 years, then there were in the WTC buildings.


How come we dont see coverage of the people that died in the Middle East? or of the tragedies that continue to happen at Guantanamo Bay Prison or the "classified/ top secret" jails we continue to hear about on the news??


People need to watch the documentary "Loose Change"   google it, its on there.


 


OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE.
THE AMERICAN GOVERNEMNENT PLANNED AND LAUNCHED THE ATTACK ON THE WTC IN NYC.


 


 http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726



-- Edited by CHIVO at 18:38, 2006-09-12

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