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as soon as i found out that one of the flights was American Airlines i immediatey rushed to the office and told them to let me make a long distance call to seattle because my cousin was a stuardise (dont know how to spell it) for AA.  the call wouldnt go through so i ran drove home and tried to call my mom.  she said she had had no luck either...so i kept trying.

i finally got through and i spoke to my cousin who was a wreck...she told me that the first flight was supposed to be hers but she had asked her best friend to cover for her because her daughter was sick...and she watched in horror as her best friend died on the flight that was supposed to be hers...

this really hit home for me...so sad

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Holy shi-ite, and they say there's no destiny. That's quite a story. Reminds me of the latin guy, I think he was dominican, who worked at the towers and he called in sick that day so he survived, only to die in a plane accident like a month later while travelling to the dominican. Or something like that. Did you guys hear about that one?

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I agree with you 100%.  I do think this is a wake up call.

@LB, what would you think if this happened here, it has been really close you know, do you think Canadians deserve it since we always help the U.S. ?  I am sorry but I do not think anyone deserves this Shiat.

Yesi

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The people who gave their lives in the attack definatelly didnt deserve it, and neither did their families. But I believe the point LB was trying to make was that it was only a matter of time till someone hit them up. You cant expect to be the bully of the playground forever and not have some of the bullyed gang up on you eventually. Next On the docket: Korea.... and they have nukes!

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Can we go to Mandarin again?????????   

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hey. Im down... have ur peeps call my peeps!

BEEE-OTCH!!!

Motown Junkie wrote:
Can we go to Mandarin again?????????   

 

 

perhaps the only good idea you've ever had....   im down....

excaliber wrote:

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there was traffic in all the feul stops from there all the way to the buffalo NY area

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I'm guessing you had to stop to refuel in all of them!

 

Phantasma wrote:

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Yesi wrote:

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miguel wrote:

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I agree with you 100%.  I do think this is a wake up call.

@LB, what would you think if this happened here, it has been really close you know, do you think Canadians deserve it since we always help the U.S. ?  I am sorry but I do not think anyone deserves this Shiat.

Yesi

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The people who gave their lives in the attack definatelly didnt deserve it, and neither did their families. But I believe the point LB was trying to make was that it was only a matter of time till someone hit them up. You cant expect to be the bully of the playground forever and not have some of the bullyed gang up on you eventually. Next On the docket: Korea.... and they have nukes!

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Can we go to Mandarin again?????????   

-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 15:15, 2006-09-11

MellowManC wrote:

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G:  When you live in Brampton, there's nothing else to do than house parties....    if you dont believe me ask Chale's brother.. he'll tell you.

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I GUESS..... I WOULDN'T KNOW!

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I was living in Brampton at the time.  Had gotten to school late cuz i had a massive hangover from the party the night before, on my way to class some Pakistani kid ran past me and my boy screaming and yelling " We Hit America!! We Hit America!" We then heard over the PA that classes were closing and that buses were dispatched back to pick up students due to school board instructions

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WOW!

YOU STARTED PARTYING HARD AT A YOUNG AGE!

I was living in Brampton at the time.  Had gotten to school late cuz i had a massive hangover from the party the night before, on my way to class some Pakistani kid ran past me and my boy screaming and yelling " We Hit America!! We Hit America!" We then heard over the PA that classes were closing and that buses were dispatched back to pick up students due to school board instructions

regardless of its "size" (relatively minor compared to the casualties in wars or genocides, although definitely one of the most well executed and large scale terrorist attacks in history) 9/11 is a defining moment in history, this is why it is so important. the effects and ramifications of 9/11 will be felt for a generation. Even if they end up getting Bin Laden, there are thousands of bin ladens out there and they will not give up.

i think what some people tend to forget (due to disagreement with Dubyah's policies, and whatnot) is that the world is in a pretty tense situation right now. bin laden (and his men) genuinely believe that Allah has ordered them to kill. they will not stop, they are patient . 9/11 was only the beginning. these guys are willing to wait as long as they need to before striking again. they are very meticulous

i don't agree with Dubyah on mostly anything (except maybe the immigration legislation he tried unsuccessfully to push through), but the fact of the matter is: we are in this situation now, like it or not. the ****storm in iraq, the increasing problems in afghanistan (which we are actively involved in), israel.. palestine.. lebanon...

the threat of terrorism is everywhere (including here). i can't claim to have all the answers, but you can't deny the importance of 9/11, it was a wakeup call to the world, yes.. tanzania and kenya.. yemen.. these attacks were not flukes. and then after 9/11, indonesia, madrid, london, etc. we have a problem and we have to find a way to deal with it, what is frustrating me at this point is that there is no end in sight.

i for one think it is important to remember this day, if anything, to bring focus back on these issues, so that we can deal with them with renewed energy (and possibly insight)

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I think WARS are a waaaaaaaaaaaay bigger deal than some planes crashing into those towers.

More people die in wars, more people leave their countries, more people lose loved ones.....and wars last longer and cause more damage (mental, physical, emotional, contructional lol)

Everyone feels bad for the innocent people who died in NY, 5 years ago....and the only reason it's made out to be such an unncessary big deal is because the American MEDIA is milking it like crazy!

It's somewhat satisfying to see BUSH and his people get a teeny tiny piece in revenge of what they (US) have been doing to the rest of the world for years and years and years,,,,,,,even IF this didnt affect Bush directly...and it only affected innocent US citizens.....I also have family there and they were really affected by this tragedy.....but do they feel like I do regardless.... OF COURSE! 

It's Karma, Payback, whatever u wanna call it.....

This "event" made Bush look like a FOOL in front of THE WORLD....not just the States.....

A lot of you say....it was in "your neck of woods".....well the middle east is in "my neck of woods" so I'm entitled to make these comments and not feel anyway about it......

I feel terrible for the families that lost their innocent loved ones.....because it was totally unfair.....now I wander if an American will sit here and say they feel bad for the "war in the middle east"......because let's not forget that "el papa del Bush" started what mini-me Bush is trying to finish....

Worldwide people blame the British, the Jews and the Americans for a lot of our problems.....and slowly this proof will surface......

 

 

 

 

 

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I agree with LB except for the part where it made BabyBush look like an idiot. He was doing a very good job making himself look like an idiot until this happened and he went all cowboy and his approval rating shot up like mad cause he got on TV all John Wayne like talking about how they gonna get them and all that mess. Then he used the attacks as an excuse to further his agenda and launch attacks on Iraq. There are some that believe that the US planned the attacks in order to justify this Iraq thing but I dont believe it. Even with its history of blatant disregard for human life, the US dont kill its own, they only mass murder people in other countries. I do believe they saw the 911 thing and a little bell inmediatelly went off in the people who run the country's head (not bush, the people who actually run it) and they were like...... this is our ticket right here, we can use this to justify fukcin Saddam up, that'll teach him to hold oil from us!

I was in GDL, entering the cafeteria in the building before getting to work.

I saw something getting into one of the tower on tv, high and far away from me, and I thought, one of those stupid private guy that think that because he got his license he knows how to fly, specially in a city !

So I went upstairs and my co-workers hield/yield (spelling) at me "Julie......Julie, you won't believe it come over". He did scare the shiat out of me, I thought something had happened to a member of the team (we were VERY close), he pointed out the tv and I couldn't believe what I saw, the second plane was just getting into the 2sd tower.

It was a very strange day, nobody really worked, customer were getting crazy because, airports were closed, etc....

 

  It's the way it was DONE people.  Tell me how many well executed and EXTREME plans such as this one succeeded or even went down??!!!

How many times can you look back in history and say, "Well in 1937, three planes hit the Sears tower, and 2 planes hit the CN Tower, "  Get my drift???

I think WARS are a waaaaaaaaaaaay bigger deal than some planes crashing into those towers.

More people die in wars, more people leave their countries, more people lose loved ones.....and wars last longer and cause more damage (mental, physical, emotional, contructional lol)

Everyone feels bad for the innocent people who died in NY, 5 years ago....and the only reason it's made out to be such an unncessary big deal is because the American MEDIA is milking it like crazy!

It's somewhat satisfying to see BUSH and his people get a teeny tiny piece in revenge of what they (US) have been doing to the rest of the world for years and years and years,,,,,,,even IF this didnt affect Bush directly...and it only affected innocent US citizens.....I also have family there and they were really affected by this tragedy.....but do they feel like I do regardless.... OF COURSE! 

It's Karma, Payback, whatever u wanna call it.....

This "event" made Bush look like a FOOL in front of THE WORLD....not just the States.....

A lot of you say....it was in "your neck of woods".....well the middle east is in "my neck of woods" so I'm entitled to make these comments and not feel anyway about it......

I feel terrible for the families that lost their innocent loved ones.....because it was totally unfair.....now I wander if an American will sit here and say they feel bad for the "war in the middle east"......because let's not forget that "el papa del Bush" started what mini-me Bush is trying to finish....

Worldwide people blame the British, the Jews and the Americans for a lot of our problems.....and slowly this proof will surface......

 

 

 

 

 

Motown Junkie wrote:

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@LUNA

 

HEY THE CROC GUY DIED (CANT MEMBER HIS NAME) AND AUSTRALIA IS CONCERNING TO MAKE IT A NATIONAL HOLIDAY WAT U HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT!!!!

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  Confu man....................what are you smoking????  What school are you at??  Forrest Gump Academy??!!!!  The guy was a citizen and national "hero" in Australia!!!  Of course they'd want to do something.  I'd understand if Canada was wishing to make Steve Irwin's death a national holiday but that's not the case!!!

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UHM WHO IS STEVE IRWIN?? DID HE INVENT SOMETHING OR IS HE THE GREENPEACE GUY......IM SMOKING MALBORO THK U VERY MUCH!!! SCHOOL TORONTO FILM SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU.....NOW KE TE!!!

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Oh for Pete's sake!!  Steve Irwin is the croc guy!

@Luna:  That was a different generation, they could've made it a holiday but chose not to.  09/11 is now OUR time so if they want to make it a holiday, go nuts!!!

@TVBuff:  So genocide came into this........................  And I was only using Canada as an example!!!  I could've said Japan for Jebus' sake!!!!!

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OH THAT HIS NAME!! I CONFUSE...NO MEMBER!!!!

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Motown Junkie wrote:

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  Confu man....................what are you smoking????  What school are you at??  Forrest Gump Academy??!!!!  The guy was a citizen and national "hero" in Australia!!!  Of course they'd want to do something.  I'd understand if Canada was wishing to make Steve Irwin's death a national holiday but that's not the case!!!

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Believe it or not what Confu's saying is not so far-fetched, especially considering how much a national holiday would help Americans spread americana propaganda. The fact that this is so recent and it's still fresh in our minds would weigh even more on the case. I just don't think this will become a Canadian national holiday, but it could very easily become an American one. Or who knows about Canada anyway. We're still celebrating Queen Elizabeth's birthday...

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OMG!!! IS IT ME OR DID BUFFY AGREE WITH ME?? CAN THIS B POSSIBLE FIRST IT WAS M&M NW BUFFY WAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO???

AND CHESS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DAM YANKEES MAKING IT A NATIONAL HOLIDAY NOT US!!!!

Motown Junkie wrote:

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I'm intrigued though....what has happened far worse than the 9/11 attacks???  We can't compare this to WWI and WWII obviously but I think 9/11 hit harder because it happened in our generation and in our neck of the woods.  Let's not talk about missiles and suicide attacks.  This was the most well thought out plan and it happened all under our nose!!!  This was no ordinary attack people!!!  FOUR freaking PLANES!!!!!  I think some people have underestimated this tragedy.

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A little comparison just by numbers:
In 9/11 about 3,000 people died-- almost 300 of those were foreigners.
In Rwanda 800 thousand to one million people died in 1994 in a matter of 100 days. It just didn't happen in our "neck of the woods" and it wasn't a natural disaster.

Motown Junkie wrote:

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confundida wrote:

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@LUNA

 

HEY THE CROC GUY DIED (CANT MEMBER HIS NAME) AND AUSTRALIA IS CONCERNING TO MAKE IT A NATIONAL HOLIDAY WAT U HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT!!!!

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  Confu man....................what are you smoking????  What school are you at??  Forrest Gump Academy??!!!!  The guy was a citizen and national "hero" in Australia!!!  Of course they'd want to do something.  I'd understand if Canada was wishing to make Steve Irwin's death a national holiday but that's not the case!!!

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UHM WHO IS STEVE IRWIN?? DID HE INVENT SOMETHING OR IS HE THE GREENPEACE GUY......IM SMOKING MALBORO THK U VERY MUCH!!! SCHOOL TORONTO FILM SCHOOL DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU.....NOW KE TE!!!

Motown Junkie wrote:

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You can't have a national holiday for every natural disaster that happens!!!!  9/11 was NOT a NATURAL disaster!!!! 

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I agree with you MJ - Natural Disaster & Terrorist Attack. (Very different)

5 minutes of silence is good. - A holiday?? Don't thinks so

Yesi

@LUNA

 

HEY THE CROC GUY DIED (CANT MEMBER HIS NAME) AND AUSTRALIA IS CONCERNING TO MAKE IT A NATIONAL HOLIDAY WAT U HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT!!!!

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confundida wrote:

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luna chiquitita wrote:

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hmm... I don't think that this requires a national holiday.   That's a little much.  If that were the case, then why isn't Remembrance Day a national holiday (only government employees get this day off). Or any other day where a disaster or crisis has occurred.  If anything Sept 11 should remain a day of remembrance but not a holiday.

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ARE U KIDDING ME?? HELLO!! DID U FORGET THAT WERE TALKING ABOU THE YANKEES AND THEY LIKE TO MAKE EVERYTHING A BIG DEAL!!! ANOTHER REASON THIS SHOULD BECOME A NATIONAL HOLIDAYS IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAVE YANKESS DIED BUT MANY TOURIST HAVE DIED.... DONT YOU THINK THIS WOULD SHOW SOME KIND OF RESPECT FOR OTHER COUNTRIES??

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are you kidding me?  So 'cause some Yankees died this should be a national holiday?  That makes no sense.  Ok, if you make a comparison to other disasters, like let's say Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, where thousands of people died, were left homeless, a city in ruins, why isn't this a national holiday?  Your reasoning makes no sense.

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NO ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? KATRINA WILL NEVER BE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY BUSH DONT CARE!! HELLO.....

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luna chiquitita wrote:

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hmm... I don't think that this requires a national holiday.   That's a little much.  If that were the case, then why isn't Remembrance Day a national holiday (only government employees get this day off). Or any other day where a disaster or crisis has occurred.  If anything Sept 11 should remain a day of remembrance but not a holiday.

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ARE U KIDDING ME?? HELLO!! DID U FORGET THAT WERE TALKING ABOU THE YANKEES AND THEY LIKE TO MAKE EVERYTHING A BIG DEAL!!! ANOTHER REASON THIS SHOULD BECOME A NATIONAL HOLIDAYS IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAVE YANKESS DIED BUT MANY TOURIST HAVE DIED.... DONT YOU THINK THIS WOULD SHOW SOME KIND OF RESPECT FOR OTHER COUNTRIES??

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are you kidding me?  So 'cause some Yankees died this should be a national holiday?  That makes no sense.  Ok, if you make a comparison to other disasters, like let's say Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, where thousands of people died, were left homeless, a city in ruins, why isn't this a national holiday?  Your reasoning makes no sense.

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hmm... I don't think that this requires a national holiday.   That's a little much.  If that were the case, then why isn't Remembrance Day a national holiday (only government employees get this day off). Or any other day where a disaster or crisis has occurred.  If anything Sept 11 should remain a day of remembrance but not a holiday.

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ARE U KIDDING ME?? HELLO!! DID U FORGET THAT WERE TALKING ABOU THE YANKEES AND THEY LIKE TO MAKE EVERYTHING A BIG DEAL!!! ANOTHER REASON THIS SHOULD BECOME A NATIONAL HOLIDAYS IS BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAVE YANKESS DIED BUT MANY TOURIST HAVE DIED.... DONT YOU THINK THIS WOULD SHOW SOME KIND OF RESPECT FOR OTHER COUNTRIES??

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WOW.....I WAS LIVING IN LONDON, ON WHEN THIS HAPPENED I WAS AT WORK.....

WHEN A CERTAIN SOMEONE AT THE TIME CALLED ME.....

HE THOUGHT THAT HIS FATHER HAD DIED.....BUT HE DIDNT......

MY MOTHER WAS GOING INSANE SINCE MY UNCLE WAS IN NY AT THE TIME....

MY GOSH THIS WAS SO LONG AGO....

THE ONLY THING THAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS WHY DONT THEY DECLARE THIS A NATIONAL HOLIDAY??

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SIMPLE.....CHESS I PUT ON MY THINKING CAP.....

EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 4 YR AROUND THIS TIME WE HEAR ABOUT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER...ETC ETC.....

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You should put it on more often

I think it's a historic event - just not enough to make it a National Holiday.

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I THINK THAT U JSUT CONTRADICTED YOURSELF.....

ARENT NATIONAL HOLIDAYS BASED ON HISTORIC EVENTS??

OR DO U RATHER HEAR YR IN AND OUT ABOUT THE TWIN TOWERS??