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Music video

The video is something of a concept video, but by no means any less an epic than the song. The video entails Axl and then girlfriend Stephanie Seymour being wed, interspersed with a live performance at Carnegie Hall. Particularly, it can be noted for its large budget (about $1.5 million) and stunning cinematography. It is currently the 9th most expensive music video ever. Many fans consider "November Rain" to be the second video in a trilogy (between "Don't Cry" and "Estranged"), and although the band has never made that statement, the similarity in production, style and plots can be considered evidence of this intent.[citation needed] ("Don't Cry" shows Axl and Seymour dating, "November Rain" shows the marriage and death of Seymour, and "Estranged" shows Axl living alone.)
The video for "November Rain" was parodied by British comedy duo French & Saunders in 1994, with Jennifer Saunders as Axl and Dawn French as Slash, and can be found on the DVD French And Saunders: At The Movies.
"November Rain" is based on the short story "Without You", by Del James, available in James' 1995 book The Language of Fear. That short story would have an obvious appeal to Axl Rose, as it describes the misery of a former multi-platinum blues-influenced rock star, now so drunk and drug-addled he never knows what day it is, who reminisces over an on-and-off-again relationship. He leaves this erstwhile girlfriend a telephone message, becomes concerned when she doesn't answer, and then goes to her apartment, kicking down her door to find she had just shot herself in the head while listening to his music.[citation needed]
The lyrics to "November Rain" do not discuss the suicide issue, only the tempestuous relationship. According to one interpretation, the lyrics are from a man to a former girlfriend, saying how the troubled times (the 'cold November rain') will not last forever, and that he is willing to give her time alone if she will come back to him.[citation needed] The video, on the other hand, follows the short story more closely, from love and life, through to death and the funeral of the bride. Although the video doesn't explain how the girlfriend died, it can be seen, by looking at the girlfriend in the casket, that there is a line down her face; that is, a mirror. This appears at the 7:21 mark in the video. Families of head-trauma victims, who want to have an open-casket funeral, can use a mirror reflecting the intact side of the face to make the deceased appear whole. It can therefore be inferred that, as in the short story, the girlfriend was shot in the head. This inference is supported by an earlier scene in which Axl walks alone at night, past a gunshop with an open door, which can be seen at the 5:36 mark in the video. Many viewed this scene as an indication that Axl was the shooter: the suicide/homicide ambiguity corresponds to the storied protagonist's guilt over precipitating the suicide.


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Thanks for the info. 


@Quixote - I like your take on the video



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So I was watching the video yesterday and the song stuck in my head.  It is a great video but at the same time kind of odd.  The part that strikes me as odd is that Im not sure how the girl dies.  One minute she`s all happy and walking down the aisle, next minute is her funeral and she`s in her wedding dress.  Did Axl kill her?  Did someone come to the wedding and shoot up the place?  Did she kill herself?  Anyone know?



Till this day I've never know, but I just assume in my mind that she got struck by lightning from the rain in November.




  I thought the same thing too!!!!



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"November Rain" is based on the short story "Without You", by Del James, available in James' 1995 book The Language of Fear. That short story would have an obvious appeal to Axl Rose, as it describes the misery of a former multi-platinum blues-influenced rock star, now so drunk and drug-addled he never knows what day it is, who reminisces over an on-and-off-again relationship. He leaves this erstwhile girlfriend a telephone message, becomes concerned when she doesn't answer, and then goes to her apartment, kicking down her door to find she had just shot herself in the head while listening to his music.[citation needed]
The lyrics to "November Rain" do not discuss the suicide issue








thx xavier.....


about the lyrics i swear to me it looks like the girls want to be alone talking about fear and stuff, she is depress and kills herself....  but i'm crazy so i blame my mental status



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I found this

Music video

The video is something of a concept video, but by no means any less an epic than the song. The video entails Axl and then girlfriend Stephanie Seymour being wed, interspersed with a live performance at Carnegie Hall. Particularly, it can be noted for its large budget (about $1.5 million) and stunning cinematography. It is currently the 9th most expensive music video ever. Many fans consider "November Rain" to be the second video in a trilogy (between "Don't Cry" and "Estranged"), and although the band has never made that statement, the similarity in production, style and plots can be considered evidence of this intent.[citation needed] ("Don't Cry" shows Axl and Seymour dating, "November Rain" shows the marriage and death of Seymour, and "Estranged" shows Axl living alone.)
The video for "November Rain" was parodied by British comedy duo French & Saunders in 1994, with Jennifer Saunders as Axl and Dawn French as Slash, and can be found on the DVD French And Saunders: At The Movies.
"November Rain" is based on the short story "Without You", by Del James, available in James' 1995 book The Language of Fear. That short story would have an obvious appeal to Axl Rose, as it describes the misery of a former multi-platinum blues-influenced rock star, now so drunk and drug-addled he never knows what day it is, who reminisces over an on-and-off-again relationship. He leaves this erstwhile girlfriend a telephone message, becomes concerned when she doesn't answer, and then goes to her apartment, kicking down her door to find she had just shot herself in the head while listening to his music.[citation needed]
The lyrics to "November Rain" do not discuss the suicide issue, only the tempestuous relationship. According to one interpretation, the lyrics are from a man to a former girlfriend, saying how the troubled times (the 'cold November rain') will not last forever, and that he is willing to give her time alone if she will come back to him.[citation needed] The video, on the other hand, follows the short story more closely, from love and life, through to death and the funeral of the bride. Although the video doesn't explain how the girlfriend died, it can be seen, by looking at the girlfriend in the casket, that there is a line down her face; that is, a mirror. This appears at the 7:21 mark in the video. Families of head-trauma victims, who want to have an open-casket funeral, can use a mirror reflecting the intact side of the face to make the deceased appear whole. It can therefore be inferred that, as in the short story, the girlfriend was shot in the head. This inference is supported by an earlier scene in which Axl walks alone at night, past a gunshop with an open door, which can be seen at the 5:36 mark in the video. Many viewed this scene as an indication that Axl was the shooter: the suicide/homicide ambiguity corresponds to the storied protagonist's guilt over precipitating the suicide.


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I always thought she killed herself.... u know from the lyrics but maybe i should look into what Quixote said lol...

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The video was based on a short story written by a friend of the band.  I am pretty certain she committed suicide in the short story.


The actual song was written long ago even before Apetite for Destruction.  There is a bootlegged acoustic version of the demo song out there.  I may have a copy of it somewhere.  It's worth a listen if you like the song.



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Chale Tanga wrote:



Jaime Cruz wrote:


Till this day I've never know, but I just assume in my mind that she got struck by lightning from the rain in November.


lol.. nice!


I dont think it was a latin wedding, so one shot up the place....at least I dont think.

I always thought that she just died suddenly... maybe of a drug overdose or something... cuz if I remember correctly, she was burried in her wedding dress, cept that it was black.

Jes?



Yes, the dress went from white to black after she got struck by lightning and was toasted

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Jaime Cruz wrote:


Till this day I've never know, but I just assume in my mind that she got struck by lightning from the rain in November.


lol.. nice!


I dont think it was a latin wedding, so one shot up the place....at least I dont think.

I always thought that she just died suddenly... maybe of a drug overdose or something... cuz if I remember correctly, she was burried in her wedding dress, cept that it was black.

Jes?

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Colombiana4Life wrote:


So I was watching the video yesterday and the song stuck in my head.  It is a great video but at the same time kind of odd.  The part that strikes me as odd is that Im not sure how the girl dies.  One minute she`s all happy and walking down the aisle, next minute is her funeral and she`s in her wedding dress.  Did Axl kill her?  Did someone come to the wedding and shoot up the place?  Did she kill herself?  Anyone know?


Till this day I've never know, but I just assume in my mind that she got struck by lightning from the rain in November.

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So I was watching the video yesterday and the song stuck in my head.  It is a great video but at the same time kind of odd.  The part that strikes me as odd is that Im not sure how the girl dies.  One minute she`s all happy and walking down the aisle, next minute is her funeral and she`s in her wedding dress.  Did Axl kill her?  Did someone come to the wedding and shoot up the place?  Did she kill herself?  Anyone know?

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