Dogo wrote:

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Guadalupana wrote:
that's true, but even though both homosexuality and pornography have been around since who knows when (Daeveed please feel free to insert correct encyclopedia fact here) even after so long, we're just barely beginning to accept that being gay and wanting to get married is right. And of course there are still tons who think it otherwise. For porn, it's still taboo somewhat. Sure sex is still being 'tastefully'(if there is such a thing) used to sell, but it's never a classy thing to do/use. Classy(in every sense of the word) will always stick around, and will always be what most will want. I don't see how porn can ever become that. So if anything, 20 years to have these two things be absolutely normal to everyone is far fetched...it will take much, much longer.

 
OK, I meant 40 years …. Or maybe notYou really think that we’re just BARELY beginning to accept that being gay is right?We have a GAY parade! for poopoo's sake!!20 or 30 years ago homosexuality was frowned upon….. and yes, it still is today, but not remotely or NEEEARLY as much… I think that we’ve come to a point where we just don’t gasp anymore if someone declares they’re gay. In the last 10, 15 years I’ve gotten to the point where if someone mentions to me that they’re gay I’d be like: “you’re gay? Cool, pass me the mashed potatoes”So I don’t think it’s soooo far fetched to think that pornography will be far more accepted in a few decades from now, than it is todayStrange that homosexuality has really “boomed” but sexuality itself is still such a taboo
 
I disagree that sex can’t be tastefully “sold”I don’t have the Playboy channel, but at friends, a couple of years ago, I watched part of one of theirs soft porn movies, and was very VERY tastefully and well done, and a pretty big production (for a porn movie)Don’t know if they’ve kept up they’re “style”

 

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yeah, by barely i meant it's not 100% accepted. Sure we have a gay parade why?, to get people to accept it of course, to make them aware. Why do you think we don't have hetero day parade? cuz it's the 'norm'..bah! anyway ya me canse de estar peliando, i'm glad you have your opinion, i just don't agree with it.
So there.

Jaime Cruz wrote:

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Guadalupana wrote:
GENIE wrote: You know what its funny but as your growing up you see the Porn or Sex INDUSTRY as Bad as sinful and yet many of us enjoy watching it! its a BILLION Dollar business! it has come a long way and has changed so much!  All i can say is yes guada it maybe Prostitution but i would rather my child be in a cleaner safer enviornment then out on the streets selling it and dealing with anyone that can come in and murder her/him!  Im sorry but my mother raised me very catholic very well and educated but i can tell u this much if manana I woke up and had the wicked body and felt like being a Porn star to be honest i would do it why not! its my choice my lifestyle and yes i view it openly and as a Business oppertunity remember you choose what films u make and what way it goes!   I don't see sex as a bad or sinful thing if it's between you and your other half. As for porn being cleaner? no woman, that's not true, if it were clean they wouldn't mandatorily test themselves every few months. Can you imagine your child saying 'Mami ya vengo, solo voy a que me saquen sangre para ver si no tengo sida o otro virus maligno'...no way.

The montly check ups are for safety and health. It's not like they are just gonna say "OK you are AIDS free I'll take your word for it "Testing is a must in the industry, because you don't know what they do outside of the work enviroment.
 

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Yes i know that, but that doesn't make it any better if it involves my child.

Guadalupana wrote:

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GENIE wrote: You know what its funny but as your growing up you see the Porn or Sex INDUSTRY as Bad as sinful and yet many of us enjoy watching it! its a BILLION Dollar business! it has come a long way and has changed so much!  All i can say is yes guada it maybe Prostitution but i would rather my child be in a cleaner safer enviornment then out on the streets selling it and dealing with anyone that can come in and murder her/him!  Im sorry but my mother raised me very catholic very well and educated but i can tell u this much if manana I woke up and had the wicked body and felt like being a Porn star to be honest i would do it why not! its my choice my lifestyle and yes i view it openly and as a Business oppertunity remember you choose what films u make and what way it goes!   I don't see sex as a bad or sinful thing if it's between you and your other half. As for porn being cleaner? no woman, that's not true, if it were clean they wouldn't mandatorily test themselves every few months. Can you imagine your child saying 'Mami ya vengo, solo voy a que me saquen sangre para ver si no tengo sida o otro virus maligno'...no way.

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The montly check ups are for safety and health. It's not like they are just gonna say "OK you are AIDS free I'll take your word for it "
Testing is a must in the industry, because you don't know what they do outside of the work enviroment.

 

Dogo wrote:

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Guadalupana wrote:
Dogo wrote: Guadalupana wrote: Dogo wrote: Is it the "camera" factor that bothers you? (to those who don't like the idea) 'cause your kids can be could be more -or just as- promiscuous as any porn star out there Anyway... I wonder if they have "bring your parent to work" day in my case it's the whole idea of it, of their self dignity and self respect. The fact that in my eyes, it would hurt so much to see my child that way, knowing that they're worth so much more than just a cheap thrill for who ever would view these things. Hmmm... I dunno… I haven’t put much thought into it… but after much thought … I suppose it might come down to how open minded you are and what your boundaries, and what you consider, dignified or undignified Sticking with the "sexual" topic.... I guess a similar comment could be made about homosexuality…. some people would feel that nowadays for you child to be gay is more “dignified” than them having sex in “public”… and others would much rather have them posing with an 18” dildo, on the cover of Hustler Homosexuality is less taboo than our sexual desires/fantasies something that we ALL do, or try to fulfill, behind closed doors anyway! :weird: If anything, I think, I’d accuse my child of being an exhibitionist, not so much being undignified   Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you* I consider myself to be open minded with boundaries, and if my child ended up being attracted to the same sex, i'd accept it, as long as it's a monogamous relationship and that would be dignified in my eyes.

I agree…. And I wasn’t implying that you weren’t (open minded)Funny….  I think it’s safe to say that our parents or grandparents wouldn’t have felt the same way as we do today about homosexuality…. And who really knows how pornography will be viewed in the times when our children are adults. Where WE might still look down upon it as a career choice, they might think it’s very acceptable 20 years from now

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that's true, but even though both homosexuality and pornography have been around since who knows when (Daeveed please feel free to insert correct encyclopedia fact here) even after so long, we're just barely beginning to accept that being gay and wanting to get married is right. And of course there are still tons who think it otherwise. For porn, it's still taboo somewhat. Sure sex is still being 'tastefully'(if there is such a thing) used to sell, but it's never a classy thing to do/use.
Classy(in every sense of the word) will always stick around, and will always be what most will want. I don't see how porn can ever become that.
So if anything, 20 years to have these two things be absolutely normal to everyone is far fetched...it will take much, much longer.

Chica W wrote:

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Dogo wrote:  Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you* If my daughter was a lesbian or a porn start I'd still love her the same. Question: Now that you are an adult and don't depend on your parents, would you become a porn star? Would you parents support you?

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My question wasn't about loving or not your child, but simply "what would you rather have"
I'd like to think that most people would love their children, regardless of their career choice or sexual orientation

To answer your question: I don't think I'd become a porn star... I don't have what it takes (and I'm not referring to my penis! )
But if I DID, I'm sure my parents would support me, but would be embarased about it, no doubt

Guadalupana wrote:

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Jaime Cruz wrote: Guadalupana wrote: Jaime Cruz wrote: Dogo wrote: Guadalupana wrote: Dogo wrote: Is it the "camera" factor that bothers you? (to those who don't like the idea) 'cause your kids can be could be more -or just as- promiscuous as any porn star out there Anyway... I wonder if they have "bring your parent to work" day in my case it's the whole idea of it, of their self dignity and self respect. The fact that in my eyes, it would hurt so much to see my child that way, knowing that they're worth so much more than just a cheap thrill for who ever would view these things. Hmmm... I dunno… I haven’t put much thought into it… but after much thought … I suppose it might come down to how open minded you are and what your boundaries, and what you consider, dignified or undignified Sticking with the "sexual" topic.... I guess a similar comment could be made about homosexuality…. some people would feel that nowadays for you child to be gay is more “dignified” than them having sex in “public”… and others would much rather have them posing with an 18” dildo, on the cover of Hustler Homosexuality is less taboo than our sexual desires/fantasies something that we ALL do, or try to fulfill, behind closed doors anyway! :weird: If anything, I think, I’d accuse my child of being an exhibitionist, not so much being undignified   Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you* There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but if I had to choose between my kid being gay or being a porno star I would say Porno all the way pero si fuera tu HIJA, y te dijera que es lesbiana, you'd have no problem with that right? it all come down to that girl on girl that guys seem to drool about... Maybe, but you have to admit male homosexuality is nastier than girl on girl.  yes, well boys do have nastier and uglier body parts that look ridiculous when aroused. but who am i to complain, i'm married to one.

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Chica W wrote:

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Dogo wrote:  Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you* If my daughter was a lesbian or a porn start I'd still love her the same. Question: Now that you are an adult and don't depend on your parents, would you become a porn star? Would you parents support you?

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Since becoming an adult I have become a porn star, but not getting paid for it
Ahh...the misfortunes of being an amateur videographer

Guadalupana wrote:

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Jaime Cruz wrote: Dogo wrote: Guadalupana wrote: Dogo wrote: Is it the "camera" factor that bothers you? (to those who don't like the idea) 'cause your kids can be could be more -or just as- promiscuous as any porn star out there Anyway... I wonder if they have "bring your parent to work" day in my case it's the whole idea of it, of their self dignity and self respect. The fact that in my eyes, it would hurt so much to see my child that way, knowing that they're worth so much more than just a cheap thrill for who ever would view these things. Hmmm... I dunno… I haven’t put much thought into it… but after much thought … I suppose it might come down to how open minded you are and what your boundaries, and what you consider, dignified or undignified Sticking with the "sexual" topic.... I guess a similar comment could be made about homosexuality…. some people would feel that nowadays for you child to be gay is more “dignified” than them having sex in “public”… and others would much rather have them posing with an 18” dildo, on the cover of Hustler Homosexuality is less taboo than our sexual desires/fantasies something that we ALL do, or try to fulfill, behind closed doors anyway! :weird: If anything, I think, I’d accuse my child of being an exhibitionist, not so much being undignified   Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you* There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but if I had to choose between my kid being gay or being a porno star I would say Porno all the way pero si fuera tu HIJA, y te dijera que es lesbiana, you'd have no problem with that right? it all come down to that girl on girl that guys seem to drool about...

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Maybe, but you have to admit male homosexuality is nastier than girl on girl. 

Jaime Cruz wrote:

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Dogo wrote:
Guadalupana wrote: Dogo wrote: Is it the "camera" factor that bothers you? (to those who don't like the idea) 'cause your kids can be could be more -or just as- promiscuous as any porn star out there Anyway... I wonder if they have "bring your parent to work" day in my case it's the whole idea of it, of their self dignity and self respect. The fact that in my eyes, it would hurt so much to see my child that way, knowing that they're worth so much more than just a cheap thrill for who ever would view these things. Hmmm... I dunno… I haven’t put much thought into it… but after much thought … I suppose it might come down to how open minded you are and what your boundaries, and what you consider, dignified or undignified Sticking with the "sexual" topic.... I guess a similar comment could be made about homosexuality…. some people would feel that nowadays for you child to be gay is more “dignified” than them having sex in “public”… and others would much rather have them posing with an 18” dildo, on the cover of Hustler Homosexuality is less taboo than our sexual desires/fantasies something that we ALL do, or try to fulfill, behind closed doors anyway! :weird: If anything, I think, I’d accuse my child of being an exhibitionist, not so much being undignified   Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you*
There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but if I had to choose between my kid being gay or being a porno star I would say Porno all the way

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pero si fuera tu HIJA, y te dijera que es lesbiana, you'd have no problem with that right? it all come down to that girl on girl that guys seem to drool about...

Dogo wrote:
Hmmm... I dunno… I haven’t put much thought into it… but after much thought … I suppose it might come down to how open minded you are and what your boundaries, and what you consider, dignified or undignified Sticking with the "sexual" topic.... I guess a similar comment could be made about homosexuality…. some people would feel that nowadays for you child to be gay is more “dignified” than them having sex in “public”… and others would much rather have them posing with an 18” dildo, on the cover of Hustler Homosexuality is less taboo than our sexual desires/fantasies something that we ALL do, or try to fulfill, behind closed doors anyway! :weird: If anything, I think, I’d accuse my child of being an exhibitionist, not so much being undignified   Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?   *flashing you*

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You took the words out of my mouth !

I personally won't mind at allif my child/children happen to be homesexual/lesbian....That's why I think that if he/she decide to become a porn star, even if I don't like it, after trying to make he/she change her mind, I am sure I'll give the fight, of course on a grown up level via talks and pros vs cons...., I will support my child because I won't stop loving him/her just because.

Pffft, really hard to know anyway.

Guadalupana wrote:

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Dogo wrote: Is it the "camera" factor that bothers you? (to those who don't like the idea) 'cause your kids can be could be more -or just as- promiscuous as any porn star out there Anyway... I wonder if they have "bring your parent to work" day in my case it's the whole idea of it, of their self dignity and self respect. The fact that in my eyes, it would hurt so much to see my child that way, knowing that they're worth so much more than just a cheap thrill for who ever would view these things.

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Hmmm... I dunno… I haven’t put much thought into it… but after much thought … I suppose it might come down to how open minded you are and what your boundaries, and what you consider, dignified or undignified

Sticking with the "sexual" topic.... I guess a similar comment could be made about homosexuality…. some people would feel that nowadays for you child to be gay is more “dignified” than them having sex in “public”… and others would much rather have them posing with an 18” dildo, on the cover of Hustler
Homosexuality is less taboo than our sexual desires/fantasies something that we ALL do, or try to fulfill, behind closed doors anyway! :weird:
If anything, I think, I’d accuse my child of being an exhibitionist, not so much being undignified

 

Question: Out of curiosity… Would you rather have your son be gay, or a porn star? How about your daughter?

 

*flashing you*

Jaime Cruz wrote:

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Now that's what friends are for Why is it so common to hear about a woman stripping to pay for law school , but the times I have been to a laywers office I end up seeing fat bald dudes?

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JA JA JA... THAT'S TRUE. ONLY BIG SHOT LAWYERS HAVE THE REALLY GOOD LOOKING WOMAN WORKING IN THEIR LAW FIRMS. MOST GOOD LOOKING LAWYERS THAT ARE JUST STARTING ARE USUALLY NEVER AT THE OFFICE. THEY GET ALL THE SMALL B.S. CASES AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO RUN AROUNG DOING THE PAPER WORK. SHE TELLS ME HOW AWFUL IT IS FOR NOW. SHE EITHER BECOMES AN ASSOCIATE OR OPENS HER OWN FIRM TO BE SATISFY. I THINK DATS EVERY LAWYERS DREAM!!!

Chica W wrote:

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As a mother of a 7 yrs old daughter, I ask myself "What can I do to make my daughter choose the right career for her and take the right path".  I have started to introduce her to different activities, that way she can develop an interest on something and knows that she has lots of options. I think a good education and a good mentor will hopefully keep her away from the porn/stripping industry. If some day she decides to go ahead and do it anyway, than I can say I tried my best and will support her in everyway. A mother will never turn her back on her kids. (at least not me)

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 U SEE, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. HOWEVER YOU DO GET SCENARIOS WERE THE GIRL HAS NO OPTION BUT TO GET A HIGH PAYING JOB(STIPPER,PORN, ETC.) TO PAY FOR HER SCHOOLING. MY GOOD FRIEND TRIED TO PAY FOR HER CAREER AS A LAWYER AND NO MATTER WHAT SHE DID SHE WAS ALWAYS SHORT MONEY. SHE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO BECOME A STRIPPER TO PAY HER SCHOOL. HER FAMILLY DIDN'T KNOW. ONLY HER TWO BEST FRIENDS AND ME. SHE USED TO ASKED ME TO COME TO HER WORK TO ENSURE NOBODY TRIES ANYTHING FUNNY. SHE NEVER SLEPT WITH ANY OF HER CLIENTS NOR DID SHE CONTINUE DOING THAT. NOW SHE WORKS FOR A GOOD FIRM DOWNTOWN AND THE PAST IS FORGOTTEN. HER FAMILLY NEVER FOUND OUT AND THEY STILL THINK THAT HER DAUGHTER WORKED REALLY HARD TO BE WHO SHE IS. A GREAT WOMAN. ***KUDOS TO HER***

Chica W wrote:

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 Plus she is a cutie   Thanks! She takes after mommy.

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Dogo wrote:

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Is it the "camera" factor that bothers you? (to those who don't like the idea) 'cause your kids can be could be more -or just as- promiscuous as any porn star out there Anyway... I wonder if they have "bring your parent to work" day

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I don't think so, but I'm sure they'll make an exception for you since you are probably their number 1 client.

Julie wrote:

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Chica W wrote: As a mother of a 7 yrs old daughter, I ask myself "What can I do to make my daughter choose the right career for her and take the right path".  I have started to introduce her to different activities, that way she can develop an interest on something and knows that she has lots of options. I think a good education and a good mentor will hopefully keep her away from the porn/stripping industry. If some day she decides to go ahead and do it anyway, than I can say I tried my best and will support her in everyway. A mother will never turn her back on her kids. (at least not me) OMG, 7 !!!! I mean, I know but it's amazing, she seems older to me, I guess I am still not use to the faster dev. than kids go through those days. Plus she is a cutie  

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Thanks!

She takes after mommy.

Chica W wrote:

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As a mother of a 7 yrs old daughter, I ask myself "What can I do to make my daughter choose the right career for her and take the right path".  I have started to introduce her to different activities, that way she can develop an interest on something and knows that she has lots of options. I think a good education and a good mentor will hopefully keep her away from the porn/stripping industry. If some day she decides to go ahead and do it anyway, than I can say I tried my best and will support her in everyway. A mother will never turn her back on her kids. (at least not me)

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OMG, 7 !!!! I mean, I know but it's amazing, she seems older to me, I guess I am still not use to the faster dev. than kids go through those days. Plus she is a cutie

 

As a mother of a 7 yrs old daughter, I ask myself "What can I do to make my daughter choose the right career for her and take the right path".  I have started to introduce her to different activities, that way she can develop an interest on something and knows that she has lots of options.

I think a good education and a good mentor will hopefully keep her away from the porn/stripping industry.

If some day she decides to go ahead and do it anyway, than I can say I tried my best and will support her in everyway. A mother will never turn her back on her kids. (at least not me)

Pelon` wrote:

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I couldn't believe just reading this how your soo cool about your daughter pursuing this   Not to point fingers but you wonder why the world is so ****ed up  

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Well if you think about it, you guys are more than happy to have those magazines, videos and now the net, aren't you ? So these pple have parents too that might not all ok with it but hey, at the end it's their choice no ? In this case, why not support them, sh@t it's complicated. 

well I rather she would have me as a manager than in the hands of any pimp...cause if she is like me, she would go for it no matter what, so I would rather to have control but you never know, I might end up sending her back to Colombia with my parents so they can bring her up in the same stricted way my sister is, and she might end up becoming a nun or a dentist

well, if she dreams of becoming a porn star some day, I would totally encourage her, I would take her to pole dancing lessons for kids and to stripper summer camp, so one day she can be rich and famous

GENIE wrote:

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Jaime Cruz wrote:
If your kid grew up and became a porn star, nude magazine model or stripper? What would your reaction be if they were successful in their respective career? Would you cheer them on or still try to get them out of it? -- Edited by Jaime Cruz at 14:31, 2006-07-19

        I honestly can say that i would support it! Why not i would rather them be doing that then prostitution or stripping! I would however be involved in the mom kinda way! Making sure they get themselves checked and asking movie names so i dont rent them and well i mean thats there choice right what are you gonna do?? Its not like you can be like you knwo what NO u cant! Better to know then not to and find out when your watching a Porn or Filipping thru the pages of Playboy or Playgirl whatever! you know sometimes you may not support it but there gonna do it regardless so its better to be educated about it!!!
 

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Uh hi Genie, my name is guada, what do you think being a porn star is? it's basically prostitution a la glamour. And stripping? last time i saw anything remotely close to porn, there were no clothes ANYWHERE!
My kid better use his/her brains instead of their body to move on in life.
How can you honestly say you'd be proud to say that yes, my son/daughter is in the porn industry?

but that's what i think. and i still like you.

I don't think I'd be able to support my child if they did that, regardless of the money.  Just imagine yourself 15-20years down the road, and you and your significant other (husband, wife, partner, lover, etc) want to put some spice in your "sexlife" again.  So you decide to get an adult video, so you start watching and the next thing you know there goes your son or daughter like a wild animal in heat ... no thanks, thats one of my many personal reasons why l wouldn't be able to support them.

McOSIRIS wrote:

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Jaime Cruz wrote: If your kid grew up and became a porn star, nude magazine model or stripper? What would your reaction be if they were successful in their respective career? Would you cheer them on or still try to get them out of it? -- Edited by Jaime Cruz at 14:31, 2006-07-19 I would send "her" to a monastery in Tibet for the rest of her life.... and I would find a good manager for "him"....  

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I was thinking along the same lines.