Do Argentinos have a bad re****tion??

Lahtina · Foro Master

RE: Do Argentinos have a bad re****tion??

Julie · Comandante

Lahtina wrote:

I missed this the first time! You're such a dork

I thought that you have done it on purpose

Lahtina · Foro Master

Dogo wrote:

soI’d like to think that I try my best to judge the people I meet based on good vs bad, regardlessColombians have a rePutation of dealing drugs. Do they? NO!Ecuas have one of liking to drink. Do they? NO?Mexicans have one of loving to bowl. Do they all? YES!Panamanians have one of liking sweet balls. Do they all? YESFrenchies have one of turning on their home country. Do they all? YES…… and so on.You get my point

I missed this the first time! You're such a dork

Mega · Regular Plus

Is it a concidence that about 1 week and half ago...there was a incident with other portuguese fans on St Clair too where someone actually got stabbed???

I may get grief on this next comment...but here it goes anyways....

Many portuguese people...especially men....are very very ignorant! Lack of education and respect of other people.

I wasnt there to witness any of these incidents but I wouldn't put it past the portuguese...bien ignorantes!

MarceloAddax · Guru

Motown Junkie wrote:

You always hear this and you always hear that but really, what's the deal???
I'm sure for those who don't like Argentinos, this story didn't help much!!! Police Called In To Calm Rowdy Soccer Fans Thursday June 22, 2006
Police had to intervene when World Cup soccer fans with distinct cultural loyalties clashed on St. Clair West on Wednesday night.
The typical flag-waving, horn-honking and general commotion turned ugly when Portuguese and Argentinean fans clashed, prompting police, including the mounted unit, to descend upon the crowds.
"For some reason or another, the Argentinean fans decided to party in an area that's normally frequented by Portuguese fans," explained Staff Sgt. Bruce Johnston. "This unfortunately led to a number of confrontations."
Police say it's rare for World Cup fans to get so excitable in Toronto, but assure citizens they will be watching future celebrations closely to assure law and order are maintained.
Police made several arrests including one for assaulting an officer.
"We just encourage people if they want to celebrate, celebrate in a safe, legal manner," adds Johnston. "Also remember not everyone in the city's a soccer fan. Other people are trying to live their lives."
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_1410.aspx
Edited by Motown Junkie for Lahtina because she wouldn't let me be stupid on my birfday!!! -- Edited by Motown Junkie at 12:10, 2006-06-22

Me da Verguenza de la Policia de Toronto, leer esta nota

cuando hay miles de delincuentes en la ciudad y No hacen nada

La gente Portugeza y la Argentina estaban celebrando JUNTOS
sus respectivas clasificaciones.

y la probocacion hacia la gente vino de la policia. que NO tiene nada que hacer y va a amargarle el festejo a la gente un festejo expontaño y sano
al menos cada 4 años la gente sale a gritar algo a la calle y a divertirce gratuitamente

las fotos hablan por si solas

por otro lado St. Clair No es de nadie, ni de los italianos ni de los portugueses es de la GENTE

si fuera asi , es bien grande ..... y los Argentinos solo se encuentran en Via Italia y St. Clair ...

que ridicules eso de decir que es de los portugueses ..... lo veo muy racista

salu2

Danny416 · TOP Guru

Im pretty sure it must have been them porkchops starting it first....i used to live in that area b4 st clair and caledonia area and i know how they can get when other people party on their turf.....

Dogo · Comandante

Bainaman wrote:

I love my sweet Panamanian balls!!!

Yeah, so does MM

Bainaman · Foro Master

I love my sweet Panamanian balls!!!

Lahtina · Foro Master

Dogo wrote:

Yes ..... "hablando de Roma...

Hahaha, yeah, SY!

Dogo · Comandante

Lahtina wrote:

Unlike Dogo though, I won't always defend myself if attacked personally (with words I mean), especially if we're only talking about lamebrain comments. Hay que tomar las cosas según de quien vengan. If you can't laugh off an insult, you probably deserve it. TV Buff wrote: Lahtina wrote: What's the point? The point is that argentinos have a bad re****tacion, and they **** because they **** when they **** and that's why they ****. I don't know why argentinos like asterisks so much. They do? I think you're confusing them with Greeks!

Yes ..... "hablando de Roma...

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Alcohol doesn't discriminate... it makes EVERYONE an A$$HOLE.

I'm thirsty.

Lahtina · Foro Master

Unlike Dogo though, I won't always defend myself if attacked personally (with words I mean), especially if we're only talking about lamebrain comments. Hay que tomar las cosas según de quien vengan. If you can't laugh off an insult, you probably deserve it.

TV Buff wrote:
Lahtina wrote: What's the point? The point is that argentinos have a bad re****tacion, and they **** because they **** when they **** and that's why they ****. I don't know why argentinos like asterisks so much.

They do? I think you're confusing them with Greeks!

TV Buff · TOP Guru

Lahtina wrote:

What's the point?

The point is that argentinos have a bad re****tacion, and they **** because they **** when they **** and that's why they ****.

I don't know why argentinos like asterisks so much.

Lahtina · Foro Master

Dogo wrote:

X4v13r wrote: I don't know, i guess it all depends, some are good and some are just a$$holes. X@vier Agreed, and so are Chilenos, Uruguayos, Colombians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians, Mexicans, Italians, Germans and even some Chinese …. I hope you get my point BTW, I gave up on these topics long time agoDon’t expect me to defend myself (in general, not you particularly, X) unless I’m attacked personally, I really don’t take comments, reports (whatever you want to call them) like these seriously.Are we troublemakers? I dunno, are we? Bah!I couldn’t care less what one community thinks of the next, as a whole. How unfair…. Likely we all attach some sort of stereotype to some communities, which is unfortunate, but I think the younger generations are escaping that, at least I hope soI’d like to think that I try my best to judge the people I meet based on good vs bad, regardlessColombians have a rePutation of dealing drugs. Do they? NO!Ecuas have one of liking to drink. Do they? NO?Mexicans have one of loving to bowl. Do they all? YES!Panamanians have one of liking sweet balls. Do they all? YESFrenchies have one of turning on their home country. Do they all? YES…… and so on.You get my point

I know what you mean. I was typing something along the lines of cross-cultural conflicts being product of the lack of awareness and misinformation and

. There will always be brawls between rival fans yadda-yadda-yadda has nothing to do with where you're from :morevacuouschatter: but bah! What's the point?

Dogo · Comandante

X4v13r wrote:

I don't know, i guess it all depends, some are good and some are just a$$holes. X@vier

Agreed, and so are Chilenos, Uruguayos, Colombians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians, Mexicans, Italians, Germans and even some Chinese …. I hope you get my point

BTW, I gave up on these topics long time ago
Don’t expect me to defend myself (in general, not you particularly, X) unless I’m attacked personally, I really don’t take comments, reports (whatever you want to call them) like these seriously.

Are we troublemakers? I dunno, are we? Bah!
I couldn’t care less what one community thinks of the next, as a whole. How unfair….
Likely we all attach some sort of stereotype to some communities, which is unfortunate, but I think the younger generations are escaping that, at least I hope so
I’d like to think that I try my best to judge the people I meet based on good vs bad, regardless
Colombians have a rePutation of dealing drugs. Do they? NO!
Ecuas have one of liking to drink. Do they? NO?
Mexicans have one of loving to bowl. Do they all? YES!
Panamanians have one of liking sweet balls. Do they all? YES
Frenchies have one of turning on their home country. Do they all? YES…… and so on.
You get my point

bistor · Guru

There are soccer hooligans from every country... I've never heard of argentineans or portuguese being particularly bad. That distinction would probably have to go to the english, dutch, germans, etc.... though this kind of violence has happened in every country where soccer is played.

It's news to me that St. Clair is a portuguese area.

X4v13r · Comandante

Motown Junkie wrote:

X4v13r wrote:
Motown Junkie wrote: X4v13r wrote: I'm with u on this Julie 100%, the Portuguese fan have been the worst ones this year, even my portuguese friends are ashamed of how some of them have behaved......this is not the first incident of its kin, the same thing happen on the day that they won their first game, the only diff was that 2 people got stabded and i was there to see it so this is not coming from some1 that heard or read it somewhere i saw it, is just a shame that people will think right away that it was the latinos that would of started it like MJ did X@vier I didn't write latinos started $hit The article did. Lots of people talk $hit about Argentinos (didn't LaDyBuG mention a thread where there were some people bashing Argentineans?) and that's why I asked this question. I wanted to know if they have a bad rep and why??!!! That's all. sorry about that, yes it wasn't u......but I'm sure who ever wrote this article was going based on stereotypes. like a portuguese friend of my said "the argentinos are the italians of south america". X@vier

Yeah yeah yeah, that's what I heard!!! Is that good thing or a bad thing?? I can never figure it out.

I don't know, i guess it all depends, some are good and some are just a$$holes.

X@vier

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

X4v13r wrote:

Motown Junkie wrote: X4v13r wrote: I'm with u on this Julie 100%, the Portuguese fan have been the worst ones this year, even my portuguese friends are ashamed of how some of them have behaved......this is not the first incident of its kin, the same thing happen on the day that they won their first game, the only diff was that 2 people got stabded and i was there to see it so this is not coming from some1 that heard or read it somewhere i saw it, is just a shame that people will think right away that it was the latinos that would of started it like MJ did X@vier I didn't write latinos started $hit The article did. Lots of people talk $hit about Argentinos (didn't LaDyBuG mention a thread where there were some people bashing Argentineans?) and that's why I asked this question. I wanted to know if they have a bad rep and why??!!! That's all. sorry about that, yes it wasn't u......but I'm sure who ever wrote this article was going based on stereotypes. like a portuguese friend of my said "the argentinos are the italians of south america". X@vier

Yeah yeah yeah, that's what I heard!!! Is that good thing or a bad thing?? I can never figure it out.

Julie · Comandante

you know what, I think that the statement from the police officer is very wrong and he should get his fact right

""For some reason or another, the Argentinean fans decided to party in an area that's normally frequented by Portuguese fans," explained Staff Sgt. Bruce Johnston."

Plus police officers, that were there in large numbers should have seen it coming and asked pple that was just making bulto en la banqueta de ir a otro bar if they really wanted to see the game.

En otras palabras, no hicieron su trabajo.

Ohh, and MJ, it is not against you chica, but this article really pissed me off because i was in the area since 2pm approx and I saw how things fueron evolucionando.

X4v13r · Comandante

Motown Junkie wrote:

X4v13r wrote:
I'm with u on this Julie 100%, the Portuguese fan have been the worst ones this year, even my portuguese friends are ashamed of how some of them have behaved......this is not the first incident of its kin, the same thing happen on the day that they won their first game, the only diff was that 2 people got stabded and i was there to see it so this is not coming from some1 that heard or read it somewhere i saw it, is just a shame that people will think right away that it was the latinos that would of started it like MJ did X@vier

I didn't write latinos started $hit The article did.
Lots of people talk $hit about Argentinos (didn't LaDyBuG mention a thread where there were some people bashing Argentineans?) and that's why I asked this question. I wanted to know if they have a bad rep and why??!!! That's all.

sorry about that, yes it wasn't u......but I'm sure who ever wrote this article was going based on stereotypes.

like a portuguese friend of my said "the argentinos are the italians of south america".

X@vier

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

X4v13r wrote:

I'm with u on this Julie 100%, the Portuguese fan have been the worst ones this year, even my portuguese friends are ashamed of how some of them have behaved......this is not the first incident of its kin, the same thing happen on the day that they won their first game, the only diff was that 2 people got stabded and i was there to see it so this is not coming from some1 that heard or read it somewhere i saw it, is just a shame that people will think right away that it was the latinos that would of started it like MJ did X@vier

I didn't write latinos started $hit The article did.

Lots of people talk $hit about Argentinos (didn't LaDyBuG mention a thread where there were some people bashing Argentineans?) and that's why I asked this question. I wanted to know if they have a bad rep and why??!!! That's all.

X4v13r · Comandante

Motown Junkie wrote:

Julie wrote:
Well I don't know where exactly on St-clair it happened and at what time but I can tell you one thing for sure. Freaking Drunk Gettho Portuguese* guys were really expecting to get into a fight. They were there at the begining of the game, como buscando quien les iba a contestar a sus agresiones (not fisical ones). So it is too bad it ended up like that. Because, it was a very family friendly atmospehre where I went to watch the game. BTW, why didn't you wrote "Do Portuguese have a bad re****tion??" * They played in the morning, celebrated all day (which is great), got trashed (which is not that great) and they were waiting until late afternoon, that's vicious. And yes, it was far from being the best representation of the Portuguese community building and waiting for a fight to happened (believe me, my descripcion highlighted above is very accurate) -- Edited by Julie at 12:05, 2006-06-22
Because I've heard more negative things about Argentineans than Portugese people plus the article pretty much states that Argentinean fans went into a predominantly known area that Portugese fans frequent.

let me tell u that article has it all wrong, thats more of an italian area than anything else, the portuguese area is down at college and dundas street....like Julie said they where there looking to start something and thats a BIG NO NO..

X@vier

X4v13r · Comandante

Julie wrote:

Well I don't know where exactly on St-clair it happened and at what time but I can tell you one thing for sure.
Freaking Drunk Gettho Portuguese* guys were really expecting to get into a fight. They were there at the begining of the game, como buscando quien les iba a contestar a sus agresiones (not fisical ones).
So it is too bad it ended up like that. Because, it was a very family friendly atmospehre where I went to watch the game.

BTW, why didn't you wrote "Do Portuguese have a bad re****tion??"

* They played in the morning, celebrated all day (which is great), got trashed (which is not that great) and they were waiting until late afternoon, that's vicious. And yes, it was far from being the best representation of the Portuguese community building and waiting for a fight to happened (believe me, my descripcion highlighted above is very accurate)
-- Edited by Julie at 12:05, 2006-06-22

I'm with u on this Julie 100%, the Portuguese fan have been the worst ones this year, even my portuguese friends are ashamed of how some of them have behaved......this is not the first incident of its kin, the same thing happen on the day that they won their first game, the only diff was that 2 people got stabded and i was there to see it so this is not coming from some1 that heard or read it somewhere i saw it, is just a shame that people will think right away that it was the latinos that would of started it like MJ did

X@vier

Julie · Comandante

Motown Junkie wrote:

Because I've heard more negative things about Argentineans than Portugese people plus the article pretty much states that Argentinean fans went into a predominantly known area that Portugese fans frequent.

Well, let me tell you this, there is a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Portuguese community in France and specially in Paris and they are far from being little angels when it comes to soccer.

Once again, I don't know wher it took place but i have an idea. But don't you find it strange that since the begining of the cup Argentinian are going in the area to see the games and only yesterday problems came up ?

In this area there are many latin places as well, far from being only Portuguese.

You know what I think it was, if Netherlands would have won yesterday, Argentina would have played against Portugal next friday and I think this is why those guys were there. Very Bad, and BIG NO NO.

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

Julie wrote:

Well I don't know where exactly on St-clair it happened and at what time but I can tell you one thing for sure. Freaking Drunk Gettho Portuguese* guys were really expecting to get into a fight. They were there at the begining of the game, como buscando quien les iba a contestar a sus agresiones (not fisical ones). So it is too bad it ended up like that. Because, it was a very family friendly atmospehre where I went to watch the game. BTW, why didn't you wrote "Do Portuguese have a bad re****tion??" * They played in the morning, celebrated all day (which is great), got trashed (which is not that great) and they were waiting until late afternoon, that's vicious. And yes, it was far from being the best representation of the Portuguese community building and waiting for a fight to happened (believe me, my descripcion highlighted above is very accurate) -- Edited by Julie at 12:05, 2006-06-22

Because I've heard more negative things about Argentineans than Portugese people plus the article pretty much states that Argentinean fans went into a predominantly known area that Portugese fans frequent.

Julie · Comandante

Well I don't know where exactly on St-clair it happened and at what time but I can tell you one thing for sure.

Freaking Drunk Gettho Portuguese* guys were really expecting to get into a fight. They were there at the begining of the game, como buscando quien les iba a contestar a sus agresiones (not fisical ones).

So it is too bad it ended up like that. Because, it was a very family friendly atmospehre where I went to watch the game.

BTW, why didn't you wrote "Do Portuguese have a bad re****tion??"

* They played in the morning, celebrated all day (which is great), got trashed (which is not that great) and they were waiting until late afternoon, that's vicious. And yes, it was far from being the best representation of the Portuguese community building and waiting for a fight to happened (believe me, my descripcion highlighted above is very accurate)

-- Edited by Julie at 12:05, 2006-06-22

Lahtina · Foro Master

Motown Junkie wrote:

You always here this and you always here that but really, what's the deal???

Foro spelling cop... don't you mean "hear"? I'm just saying cuz it didn't make sense at first.

Anyway... I'll read now and post any comments (if I have any) later.

Motown Junkie · TOP Guru

You always hear this and you always hear that but really, what's the deal???

I'm sure for those who don't like Argentinos, this story didn't help much!!!

Police Called In To Calm Rowdy Soccer Fans Thursday June 22, 2006

Police had to intervene when World Cup soccer fans with distinct cultural loyalties clashed on St. Clair West on Wednesday night.

The typical flag-waving, horn-honking and general commotion turned ugly when Portuguese and Argentinean fans clashed, prompting police, including the mounted unit, to descend upon the crowds.

"For some reason or another, the Argentinean fans decided to party in an area that's normally frequented by Portuguese fans," explained Staff Sgt. Bruce Johnston. "This unfortunately led to a number of confrontations."

Police say it's rare for World Cup fans to get so excitable in Toronto, but assure citizens they will be watching future celebrations closely to assure law and order are maintained.

Police made several arrests including one for assaulting an officer.

"We just encourage people if they want to celebrate, celebrate in a safe, legal manner," adds Johnston. "Also remember not everyone in the city's a soccer fan. Other people are trying to live their lives."

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_1410.aspx

Edited by Motown Junkie for Lahtina because she wouldn't let me be stupid on my birfday!!!

-- Edited by Motown Junkie at 12:10, 2006-06-22