Mi papa y mama tenian el Tio Moreno:el que saca lo malo y pone lo bueno (the belt) Creo que le haria mas el SILENT treatment to my kids

Motown Junkie wrote:

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 Oh oh oh, I remember this from Latin class:  Ego sum MJ. 

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I didn't know there were giving latin classes here. That's a very good thing.

Lahtina wrote:

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I know, I'm actually "busy".

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Really ? That's a good thing

Lahtina wrote:

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Julie wrote:  It doesn't for anyone else but me, you know... Cogito ergo est.   isn't it cogito ergo sum ? Nooooo! I'm not white cake that tastes like frog skin!

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jijijiji te tardaste !

Lahtina wrote:

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Motown Junkie wrote: Lahtina wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: Do I still get a cookie? Yes, but without the skin!!!  Ewwwwwwwwwww, what kind of gross arse cookies do you have, woman? Speaking of skin on dessert... I don't eat white cake because it reminds me of frog skin. Yup, that's what I imagine a frog's skin tastes like: white cake. Never eat while watching animal planet - funny how the brain associates stuff with stuff. <--- my eloquence astounds me! How the hell does white cake = frog skin????  EEEWWWW........ I don't eat cake unless it's cheese cake!! Yes yes, it's true it's true, MJ can not eat anything sweet!!!  BUT SHE'LL EAT A BUCKET OF POUTINE to make up for her crappy non-existent sweet tooth!!!  It doesn't for anyone else but me, you know... Cogito ergo est.  

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isn't it cogito ergo sum ?

Lahtina wrote:

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Motown Junkie wrote: Do I still get a cookie? Yes, but without the skin!!!  Ewwwwwwwwwww, what kind of gross arse cookies do you have, woman? Speaking of skin on dessert... I don't eat white cake because it reminds me of frog skin. Yup, that's what I imagine a frog's skin tastes like: white cake. Never eat while watching animal planet - funny how the brain associates stuff with stuff. <--- my eloquence astounds me!

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How the hell does white cake = frog skin????  EEEWWWW........

I don't eat cake unless it's cheese cake!!

Yes yes, it's true it's true, MJ can not eat anything sweet!!!  BUT SHE'LL EAT A BUCKET OF POUTINE to make up for her crappy non-existent sweet tooth!!! 

Lahtina wrote:

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Motown Junkie wrote: Lahtina wrote: DJ_Ganzo wrote: Well...this is interesting conversation for a change!!! Which one? The one about Russell Peters or discipline? What's the matter with you?    Wakie wakie!!!    He went on to talk about discipline which means that the interesting conversation is.............DISCIPLINE!!!!!!  You get a cookie!!!!  Hmmm... sarcasm unnoticed. I shall make it more apparent next time... perhaps a smiley would help. Do I still get a cookie?

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Yes, but without the skin!!! 

Jaime Cruz wrote:

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Ya that's true. My mom had to work during the day and still do housework and take care of me so I can imagine how stressful things can be. I wanna shoot myself sometimes after just working my regular job and I don't have much house work to do or kids to take care of @ Julie - It's pretty much what Chile just said and it makes alot of sense.  

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See, now, you have no excuse not to share the house chores to help your wife and relieve some pressure because believe me, she feels the same way as you do but might just not express it. No need to have kids for that and at least, you'll had the training prior to

I was raised by my grandmother, for some reason we listen to her. The odd time I would get a spanking but I don't recall why. The way I was discipline was set by example, we were not screamed at and were talked to with the truth, I also found that because there was always a connection and the feeling of been loved we listened more.

My daughter tests me sometimes, I try to explain things the way they are but somehow she pushes my bottoms and I end up grounding her, like no TV and gets to go to sleep earlier than the scheduled time. Over all it's a big challenge and as she grows it's gets harder, like LB said patience is the key.

Jaime Cruz wrote:

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I experienced both. The beat's from my mom and the silent treatment from my dad. My dad also would also take my tv and toys away, and would not let me leave the room.Why are moms so aggressive?? It seems like the moms are the one's that lay the beatdowns when we are kids.After experiencing both I would say my dad's method was more effective. Being avoided and having nothing to do while being in your room sucked, but also gave me time to think of what I did. Getting beat only mad would only get me even more mad.

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I won't say more aggressive but they usually are the one in charge amongst many other things, much more than the dads so on the long run, I think they get exhausted and just loose it. I am not looking for an excuse for the beatings just a logical explaination.

I experienced both. The beat's from my mom and the silent treatment from my dad. My dad also would also take my tv and toys away, and would not let me leave the room.
Why are moms so aggressive?? It seems like the moms are the one's that lay the beatdowns when we are kids.

After experiencing both I would say my dad's method was more effective. Being avoided and having nothing to do while being in your room sucked, but also gave me time to think of what I did. Getting beat only mad would only get me even more mad.

DJ_Ganzo wrote:

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Well...this is interesting conversation for a change!!! As a father I can clearly say that you guys are right.....the punishment that I give my kids is that I send them to the corner, and after like 2-3 mins I would go over and talk to him ...explain to him what he did....give him a big hug and tell him that I love him and not to do it again.....I know it sounds like I gave in, but I found it to be the most efective way to be strict and also show some positive reinforcement.....Don't get me wrong.....this only worked because I had to get up and send him to the corner like a million times the first few weeks...and trust me I almost got fed up, but now I don't have to send him to the corner any longer and I just count to 3 and he listens.....but I have been guilty of hitting my kids when they were little....I guess you go through a stage when you think that's the way to get their attention....but then my brother made me realize that I was just being a bully to him, and then I had to do some research....and the super nanny show did teach a hell of a lot....i KNOW IT SOUNDS GAY TO WATCH THOSE SHOWS, but I found them very educative..... just my 2 cents 

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Great to hear you found an effective way to deal with your child that is not going to have any long term effects on him!!  It's great to learn from your mistakes or learn from the mistakes your parents may have made with you. 

Well...this is interesting conversation for a change!!!

As a father I can clearly say that you guys are right.....the punishment that I give my kids is that I send them to the corner, and after like 2-3 mins I would go over and talk to him ...explain to him what he did....give him a big hug and tell him that I love him and not to do it again.....I know it sounds like I gave in, but I found it to be the most efective way to be strict and also show some positive reinforcement.....Don't get me wrong.....this only worked because I had to get up and send him to the corner like a million times the first few weeks...and trust me I almost got fed up, but now I don't have to send him to the corner any longer and I just count to 3 and he listens.....but I have been guilty of hitting my kids when they were little....I guess you go through a stage when you think that's the way to get their attention....but then my brother made me realize that I was just being a bully to him, and then I had to do some research....and the super nanny show did teach a hell of a lot....i KNOW IT SOUNDS GAY TO WATCH THOSE SHOWS, but I found them very educative.....

just my 2 cents 

LaDyBuG wrote:

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@ MJ Do you know if the ROSE THEATRE has even been built yet?

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Nope!! 

LaDyBuG wrote:

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Chilenita wrote: My parents NEVER ever hit us!  NEVER!! To this day my father has NEVER even yelled at me.  If we did something wrong that deserved punishment my parents would always explain why what we were doing was wrong and then they followed it up with punishment.  Punishment would be no going outside for a set period of time which affected us BIG TIME because we loved playing outside....if my mom said you are not playing with your friends for a week than a week it was and there was NEVER any exception to the rule.  She always stuck to the punishment and it always worked.  If it was no phone or T.V for two weeks then I would kick and scream all I wanted and she would not budge.  I would even cry watching other kids play from my balcony and she wouldn't budge.  I think it was just as hard on her as it was on us but she always followed through with our punishment.  I will do the same with my kids.  I don't believe in hitting.  I think there are better ways to get a message across. HITTING A CHILD IS NOTHING BUT LACK OF SELF CONTROL...that is the way I was raised. An a way to let out anger on the kid and a quick fix that in the long run has effects.....

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RIGHT!!!! It's not even a quick fix LB!!  You can hit a child and in a couple of hours or the next day they have forgotten all about it!  It's just not effective.  I remember knowing kids that would stay out past curfew or something and say "it's okay I'll deal with my beats and that it".  It teaches them nothing except that hitting is a proper way to deal with a problem.  I would not let my husband hit me.....I would never hit him if he did something ****ed up....why on earth would I hit my child.  Like I said it happens when people get angry and just loose it.  I don't find if acceptable.

Chilenita wrote:

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My parents NEVER ever hit us!  NEVER!! To this day my father has NEVER even yelled at me.  If we did something wrong that deserved punishment my parents would always explain why what we were doing was wrong and then they followed it up with punishment.  Punishment would be no going outside for a set period of time which affected us BIG TIME because we loved playing outside....if my mom said you are not playing with your friends for a week than a week it was and there was NEVER any exception to the rule.  She always stuck to the punishment and it always worked.  If it was no phone or T.V for two weeks then I would kick and scream all I wanted and she would not budge.  I would even cry watching other kids play from my balcony and she wouldn't budge.  I think it was just as hard on her as it was on us but she always followed through with our punishment.  I will do the same with my kids.  I don't believe in hitting.  I think there are better ways to get a message across. HITTING A CHILD IS NOTHING BUT LACK OF SELF CONTROL...that is the way I was raised.

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An a way to let out anger on the kid and a quick fix that in the long run has effects.....

LaDyBuG wrote:

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Lahtina wrote: LaDyBuG wrote: Lahtina wrote: TV Buff wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: I think that's a non-American/Canadian thing.  I've never seen "white" parents spank their kids but I've seen black parents go nuts, hispanic parents go nuts, asian parents go nuts........ Hmmmm...... Sometimes I think they should. White kids can be such brats sometimes. No friggin kidding! Ever watch Russell Peters? He's so right on the money.   Yeah, always.... I'm his #1 fan....and I always introduce him or his comedy to all my friends.....

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          yes and thank you for that i love his comedy!!!! lol

Lahtina wrote:

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LaDyBuG wrote: Lahtina wrote: TV Buff wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: I think that's a non-American/Canadian thing.  I've never seen "white" parents spank their kids but I've seen black parents go nuts, hispanic parents go nuts, asian parents go nuts........ Hmmmm...... Sometimes I think they should. White kids can be such brats sometimes. No friggin kidding! Ever watch Russell Peters? He's so right on the money.   Yeah, always....

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I'm his #1 fan....and I always introduce him or his comedy to all my friends.....

Lahtina wrote:

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TV Buff wrote: Motown Junkie wrote: I think that's a non-American/Canadian thing.  I've never seen "white" parents spank their kids but I've seen black parents go nuts, hispanic parents go nuts, asian parents go nuts........ Hmmmm...... Sometimes I think they should. White kids can be such brats sometimes. No friggin kidding! Ever watch Russell Peters? He's so right on the money.  

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Yeah, always....

TV Buff wrote:

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Motown Junkie wrote: I think that's a non-American/Canadian thing.  I've never seen "white" parents spank their kids but I've seen black parents go nuts, hispanic parents go nuts, asian parents go nuts........ Hmmmm...... Sometimes I think they should. White kids can be such brats sometimes.

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No friggin kidding! Ever watch Russell Peters? He's so right on the money.  

Motown Junkie wrote:

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I think that's a non-American/Canadian thing.  I've never seen "white" parents spank their kids but I've seen black parents go nuts, hispanic parents go nuts, asian parents go nuts........ Hmmmm......

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Sometimes I think they should. White kids can be such brats sometimes.

GENIE wrote:

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MY MOTHER USED TO HIT US BUT RIGHT AFTER SHE WOULD COME OVER AND SAY DO U KNOW WHY I DID THAT AND WHEN WE WOULD ANSWER SHE WOULD SAY NOW ARE U GOING TO DO IT AGAIN!!! LOL RHETORICAL QUESTION!!! BUT MY DAD NEVER HIT US HE NEVER DISCIPLINED US!! HIS LINE WAS IM GONNA TELL YOUR MOTHER WHAT U DID!!!!! AS FOR ME I WILL SPANK IF ITS NECESSARY! I WILL GIVE A SPEECH WHEN NECESSARY!! THE PUNISHMENT WILL SUIT THE CRIME COMMITTED IN MY CASA!!!

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YES DRILL SARGEANT!!!! 

You know what I hated?!  When my mom would be screaming at me and she would say, "DON'T GIVE ME THAT LOOK!!!!!!" so I'd look away or at the floor and then she'd say, "LOOK AT ME WHEN I TALK TO YOU!!!!!!!"  I was so confused.   

Julie wrote:

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I was far from being an easy child so at one point my mom bought a "martinet", she never hit me with it, just little slap, but it scared the sh@% out of me. Other than that, I don't any fisical punishment of any sort. Ohhhh, this martinet, I finally found a way to get rid of it , I was really bad with my mom I never wanted to listen and make my homework. My dad was oftenly out of the house for his work but thank God (RGNFG), he never hit or beat me because his hands were so big and powerful, I would have gone through the wall I think. For me to listen, and actually start to cry like a baby, he just had to take a serious tone and deeper his voice a little, OMG, this was very scary for me.   As for my own, well, I'll see then but I won't beat them that for sure pero una nalgada never killed anyone either. I really don't know, I think you learn those things along the way. One thing for sure is that I have to be prepared for some payback time ....... lol .......... and I think I will be kind of strict in terms of their education because that is the way I was raised and I can't complain. Strict doesn't mean unfair, even if it was the perception I had of it back then.  

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  What the hell is that???  That is some serious dominatrix $hit!!!!  lol

That reminds me of tae kwon do back in the day.  Our "master" would grab a bamboo stick and swing it back and forth quickly.  If we didn't jump quick enough, kiss your ankles goodbye!!!

I was far from being an easy child so at one point my mom bought a "martinet", she never hit me with it, just little slap, but it scared the sh@% out of me. Other than that, I don't any fisical punishment of any sort. Ohhhh, this martinet, I finally found a way to get rid of it , I was really bad with my mom I never wanted to listen and make my homework.

My dad was oftenly out of the house for his work but thank God (RGNFG), he never hit or beat me because his hands were so big and powerful, I would have gone through the wall I think. For me to listen, and actually start to cry like a baby, he just had to take a serious tone and deeper his voice a little, OMG, this was very scary for me.

 

As for my own, well, I'll see then but I won't beat them that for sure pero una nalgada never killed anyone either. I really don't know, I think you learn those things along the way. One thing for sure is that I have to be prepared for some payback time ....... lol .......... and I think I will be kind of strict in terms of their education because that is the way I was raised and I can't complain. Strict doesn't mean unfair, even if it was the perception I had of it back then.