Lahtina wrote:

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WTF??!! I just found out that the other newbie DID get paid! Well, I got paid too but I'm getting mine deducted! That's it! I'm going on a wildcat strike!

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QUIT!!  They sound like they suck...not leg but ASS

WTF??!! I just found out that the other newbie DID get paid! Well, I got paid too but I'm getting mine deducted! That's it! I'm going on a wildcat strike!

"Ask and you shall get"   no?

I agree with Chile....everything is negotiable...

If there's one lesson people should learn that is NOT TO SETTLE FOR ANYTHING JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS SO.....EVEN IF THAT SOMEONE IS YOUR BOSS.....

Lahtina wrote:

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El Duro wrote: Lahtina wrote: Ugh! Bastards! thx AXA... ok... now, how do I complain? Ugh, I'm such a Mexican!   So who was right genie or I..?   @lathina complain to your HR There is no HR! So I'd be complaining to the same lady who explained to me so kindly that I was basically screwed.

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No HR departmentIt explains everything. Probably you can teach something to the wise ladyGo to the website or call to the ministry of labour, they give you info about how to fill a complaint.I think you should talk first with that woman, it is kind of difficult because it seems like you are new employee, and the company is not going to be happy with " empleados revoltosos" , but just approach her and mention that you have some concerns or doubts. It is something wrong there, and you will be more satisfied with clear answers.

El Duro wrote:

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Lahtina wrote: Ugh! Bastards! thx AXA... ok... now, how do I complain? Ugh, I'm such a Mexican!   So who was right genie or I..?   @lathina complain to your HR

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There is no HR! So I'd be complaining to the same lady who explained to me so kindly that I was basically screwed.

Lahtina wrote:

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Ugh! Bastards! thx AXA... ok... now, how do I complain? Ugh, I'm such a Mexican!

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So who was right genie or I..?

 

@lathina

complain to your HR

El Duro wrote:

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Lahtina wrote: So yesterday I got my first paycheck. Woohoo! It wasn't that much really, and so much goes to taxes! Ugh!   But what's worse, turns out now that I OWE THE COMPANY and they'll be deducting what I OWE THEM from my next 3 paychecks! Seems they overpaid me 27 hours. Apparently I'm not eligible to get paid holidays (stupid Victoria Day! ). I was like: you mean I'm gonna be making less than this?! Well, better, than nothing. I GUESS! Oh and the next couple holidays, I'm not getting paid either! *weeping* Work sucks!   SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT THOSE RULES HAVE CHANGED AND U ARE ENTILLED TO GET PAID YOUR HOLIDAY NO MATTER IS U STARTED YESTERDAY AND THE HOLIDAY WAS TODAY, BEFORE U HAD TO WAIT UNTIL YOUR THREE MONTH PROBATIONAL PERIOD, BUT AGAIN NOT ANYMORE SO WHAT YOUR COMPANY IS DOING IT WRONG, EVEN CALL THE LABOR BOARD AND THEY WILL TELL U THE SAME

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Obvioulys that you company is doing something wrong. It bothers me a lot, people are violated in their rights because lack of information. I took the info below from the ESA

Employment Standards Act

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/

Employment standards are enforced under the Employment Standards Act, 2000 (ESA) which sets out the minimum standards that employers and employees must follow.

Most employers and employees in Ontario are covered by this provincial law. The ESA does not apply to you if you operate or work in a business that is regulated by the Government of Canada, such as: airlines, banks, shipping companies, radio and television stations, inter-provincial transport of goods and people.

Victoria Day A Public Holiday Under the Employment Standards Act, 2000

TORONTO—Many workers will get a day off with "public holiday pay" on Victoria Day, Monday, May 20, 2002. Victoria Day is one of eight public holidays under Ontario's Employment Standards Act, 2000 (ESA)

Qualifying For Victoria Day Entitlements

Generally, employees qualify for Victoria Day entitlements unless they fail, without reasonable cause, to work:

• their entire regularly-scheduled shift before or after Victoria Day; or
  
• their entire shift on Victoria Day if they agreed or were required to work that day.

Public holiday pay is an amount equal to an employee's regular wages earned in the four work weeks prior to Victoria Day plus any vacation pay payable during that period divided by 20.

“ Employees who qualify for Victoria Day entitlements can be full-time, part-time, permanent or on a limited-term contract. They can also be students. It doesn't matter how recently they were hired or how many days they worked before Victoria Day.”

Entitlements if Victoria Day is a working day

Qualified employees are entitled to take Victoria Day off with public holiday pay. They can also agree in writing to work on Victoria Day and:

• be paid their regular rate for all hours worked on Victoria Day plus receive a substitute holiday with public holiday pay; or
  
• be paid public holiday pay plus "premium pay" of one-and-a-half times their regular rate for all hours worked on Victoria Day.

Entitlements if Victoria Day is a non-working day

If Victoria Day falls on a non-working or vacation day, qualified employees can either take a substitute work day off with public holiday pay or, if they agree in writing, they can receive public holiday pay for Victoria Day with no substitute day off.

Entitlements For Non-Qualified Employees

Generally, employees who don't qualify for public holiday entitlements must work on Victoria Day if asked by their employer. Most non-qualified employees are entitled to be paid one-and-a-half times their regular rate of pay for each hour worked on Victoria Day. There is no substitute day off.

If a non-qualified employee is not asked to work on Victoria Day, he or she gets the day off with no pay.

Special Rules / Exceptions
Retail Employees

Most employees who work for "retail businesses"—businesses that sell goods or services to the public—have the right to refuse to work on Victoria Day even if they don't qualify for public holiday entitlements.

Retail employees who have agreed to work on Victoria Day may still refuse the assignment if they give their employer 48 hours advance notice before the first hour of work on Victoria Day.

Well other people have the information and they are afraid to use it, and it is an another history.Anway, for sure your company is doing something wrong and unfair.

 

NeNa wrote:

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Colombiana4Life wrote: Julie wrote: @ Colo, really ? So if you're in the company less than 3 months you're not entitle to get paid for the national holidays ? That`s pretty much anywhere.  Didnt that happen with you? yup.. i think is in all business... all depends who u work for.. sometimes u get lucky... and u get paid no matter how long u have work there!!!

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At My company new employees get paid for a holidays after 30 days...

El Duro wrote:

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GENIE wrote: El Duro wrote: GENIE wrote: El Duro wrote: what do u mean theur policies they have to go by the what the goverment tell them, and were i work i started the march and they paid me easter friday, and victoria day, and when i asked my hr he told me that the rules have changed in that aspect, so let me ask u something who do u think know more U Or Her?             CONSIDERING THAT I WENT TO HR TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE GOVERNMENT LAST MONTH BY MY WORK PLACE I DONT KNOW MAYBE HER!!!             OH WAIT I HAVE THE CERTIFICATE TO BACK MY MOUTH UP DOES SHE HAVE IT IN WRITING????   and how long have u been in that department?           WELL PREVIOUS JOB THREE YEARS CURRENT JOB SINCE FEB AND FINALLY GOT MY GOVERNMENT CERTIFICATE LAST MONTH FOR HR AND FROM THE LABOUR BOARD OF CANADA SO I WOULD SAY ABOUT THREE AND HALF YEARS PLUS A FULL COURSE ID SAY I HAVE A GOOD FIGHT!!!   gee that is  kind of a long time but I think she has little bit more exprience the u she been at the same conpamy for 15 years and at the same postion, and i pretty sure she has he certificate since this company is flipping stirct on certificates.... @MM... no not union i hate the union, they ruin the jobs

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BEFORE U ASSUME AND MAKE AN ASS OF URSELF I WOULD ASK!!! THATS ALL IM SAYING CUZ I MEAN IT WAS JUST LAST MONTH BUT HELL WHAT DO I KNOW AND TALKING TO U IS LIKE TALKING TO A WALL SO IM DONE!!!

@LATHINA NOT EVERY COMPANY IS THE SAME AND THEY CAN GET AROUND THESE RULES SIMPLY BY ACTING ON IGNORANCE AND ACCORDING TO THERE POLICY!

Bueno estamos jodidos ni modo...que pregunte la pobre mujer asi para evitar semegante relajo entre los dos!

El Duro wrote:

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GENIE wrote: El Duro wrote: what do u mean theur policies they have to go by the what the goverment tell them, and were i work i started the march and they paid me easter friday, and victoria day, and when i asked my hr he told me that the rules have changed in that aspect, so let me ask u something who do u think know more U Or Her?             CONSIDERING THAT I WENT TO HR TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE GOVERNMENT LAST MONTH BY MY WORK PLACE I DONT KNOW MAYBE HER!!!             OH WAIT I HAVE THE CERTIFICATE TO BACK MY MOUTH UP DOES SHE HAVE IT IN WRITING????   and how long have u been in that department?

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          WELL PREVIOUS JOB THREE YEARS CURRENT JOB SINCE FEB AND FINALLY GOT MY GOVERNMENT CERTIFICATE LAST MONTH FOR HR AND FROM THE LABOUR BOARD OF CANADA SO I WOULD SAY ABOUT THREE AND HALF YEARS PLUS A FULL COURSE

ID SAY I HAVE A GOOD FIGHT!!!

*Ding, ding, ding* Go to your corners.

I didn't go through an agency.

*ding, ding* Ok, fight!

El Duro wrote:

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what do u mean theur policies they have to go by the what the goverment tell them, and were i work i started the march and they paid me easter friday, and victoria day, and when i asked my hr he told me that the rules have changed in that aspect, so let me ask u something who do u think know more U Or Her?

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            CONSIDERING THAT I WENT TO HR TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE GOVERNMENT LAST MONTH BY MY WORK PLACE I DONT KNOW MAYBE HER!!!

            OH WAIT I HAVE THE CERTIFICATE TO BACK MY MOUTH UP DOES SHE HAVE IT IN WRITING????

El Duro wrote:

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what do u mean theur policies they have to go by the what the goverment tell them, and were i work i started the march and they paid me easter friday, and victoria day, and when i asked my hr he told me that the rules have changed in that aspect, so let me ask u something who do u think know more U Or Her?

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Loco are you in an agency?  If so your fortunate but there are SOME (at least thought all of them were like that) but I know some that pay with a minimum # of hrs before your valid and getting those days paid for.

GENIE wrote:

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PELON IS RIGHT!!! ITS NOT THAT UR ENTITLED ITS ABOUT HOURS WORKED NOW!!  AND NO THE COMPANY DOESNT HAVE TO PAY!! IF THATS THERE POLICY!! CALL AND ASK THE LABOUR BOARD! AND IF THEY HAVE HUMAN RESOURCES SHE CAN ASK THAT PERSON BUT IT IS NOW BASED ON HOURS WORKED!! REASON BEING U CAN START TODAY AND TOMMORROW IT BE A HOLDIAY UR NOT ENTITLED TO PAY! SORRY ALSO IF ITS CONTRACT!! MANY IFS AND BUTS!!!

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Another scam from the government The rich get richer and the pobre cabrons get poorer

Pelon` wrote:

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El Duro wrote: SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT THOSE RULES HAVE CHANGED AND U ARE ENTILLED TO GET PAID YOUR HOLIDAY NO MATTER IS U STARTED YESTERDAY AND THE HOLIDAY WAS TODAY, BEFORE U HAD TO WAIT UNTIL YOUR THREE MONTH PROBATIONAL PERIOD, BUT AGAIN NOT ANYMORE SO WHAT YOUR COMPANY IS DOING IT WRONG, EVEN CALL THE LABOR BOARD AND THEY WILL TELL U THE SAME @ Don Duro - Unless she's thru an agency which requires a # of hours before actually getting paid for the holiday.  (this should be added to the Hmmmm...Thread [things that make you go hmmm ])

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why the

if it an agency then i think she ain't entiltiled to holiday pay

Lahtina wrote:

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So yesterday I got my first paycheck. Woohoo! It wasn't that much really, and so much goes to taxes! Ugh!   But what's worse, turns out now that I OWE THE COMPANY and they'll be deducting what I OWE THEM from my next 3 paychecks! Seems they overpaid me 27 hours. Apparently I'm not eligible to get paid holidays (stupid Victoria Day! ). I was like: you mean I'm gonna be making less than this?! Well, better, than nothing. I GUESS! Oh and the next couple holidays, I'm not getting paid either! *weeping* Work sucks!

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SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT THOSE RULES HAVE CHANGED AND U ARE ENTILLED TO GET PAID YOUR HOLIDAY NO MATTER IS U STARTED YESTERDAY AND THE HOLIDAY WAS TODAY, BEFORE U HAD TO WAIT UNTIL YOUR THREE MONTH PROBATIONAL PERIOD, BUT AGAIN NOT ANYMORE SO WHAT YOUR COMPANY IS DOING IT WRONG, EVEN CALL THE LABOR BOARD AND THEY WILL TELL U THE SAME

Colombiana4Life wrote:

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Julie wrote: @ Colo, really ? So if you're in the company less than 3 months you're not entitle to get paid for the national holidays ? That`s pretty much anywhere.  Didnt that happen with you?

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Well, to get you actual vacations time, yes, altought I had them prorated straight ahead (I started end of July'05 and I had like 5 or 6 days) so I had already few days in my bank but in terms of national holidays (las de ley) the one paid but not worked, I always had them paid regardless of the 3 months period.

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I know. It seems really unfair. When I first started working here, I was under contract, so I didn't get benefits and no paid holidays and crap like that. Then they hired me full time and for a year (YES, THAT'S RIGHT, A YEAR) I didn't get any vacation. Now that I've been here long enough, I'm taking full advantage...

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Yep, I need a year as well before I get a vacation... So December, look out!!!

Lahtina wrote:

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Motown Junkie wrote: Why not????  Because of what Colo just said, I haven't been working here for more than 3 months, or at all, actually. Booo! Three of those 27 hours are from Wednesday when I had to leave early for a doctor's appointment. I probably have made up for those 3 hours with all the days I've gotten in early. See if I ever come early to work again! Worms of the world stranded on a sidewalk, rejoice!

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For every worm you save, I will be there with lighter in hand!!!! 

Motown Junkie wrote:

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Why not???? 

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Because of what Colo just said, I haven't been working here for more than 3 months, or at all, actually. Booo!

Three of those 27 hours are from Wednesday when I had to leave early for a doctor's appointment. I probably have made up for those 3 hours with all the days I've gotten in early. See if I ever come early to work again! Worms of the world stranded on a sidewalk, rejoice!

Lahtina wrote:

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So yesterday I got my first paycheck. Woohoo! It wasn't that much really, and so much goes to taxes! Ugh!   But what's worse, turns out now that I OWE THE COMPANY and they'll be deducting what I OWE THEM from my next 3 paychecks! Seems they overpaid me 27 hours. Apparently I'm not eligible to get paid holidays (stupid Victoria Day! ). I was like: you mean I'm gonna be making less than this?! Well, better, than nothing. I GUESS! Oh and the next couple holidays, I'm not getting paid either! *weeping* Work sucks!

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I guess  you`re not getting paid for the holidays cause you havent been there 3+ months.  I know, it sucks, welcome to corporate Canada