Why do Drugs??? Why???

miguel · TOP Guru

RE: Why do Drugs??? Why???

Danny416 · TOP Guru

it was never my thing....never even smoked a cigarette until this day!!..it aint for me..others can do whatever ..

Chica W · Guru

Daeveed wrote:

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LOl!! You're too much!!

Daeveed · Foro Master

COME AND DO DRUGS TONIGHT AT:

**************DUKE OF GLOUCESTER MADNESS***********

YONGE AND CHARLES 2ND FLOOR

CHEAP DRINKS, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE!!!!

DUKE OF GLOUCESTER MOFO!!!

LGigolo · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

LGigolo wrote: Chica W wrote: Thank you for your opinions and advise. @Chilenita, He does have other problems and that is been gay. The mother does know and she is still there for him and loves him just the same. I know that it's hard to deal with been gay and to look for acceptance specially if you are in a country where it's not accepted. I can see why he would turn to drugs but it would make sense to stay away from things that you know will harm you?? There are plenty of other gay people out there or people facing different issues in their lives that may be hard to deal with... turning to drugs just creates MORE problems instead of helping one solve problems... He may have a tough life or lots of issues to deal with; just need to learn to deal with them better. I was told something along the lines of: "No matter how dark your day looks - just remember that there are a lot of other people having darker days. Look ahead and try to make a sunny day for yourself" Wow!! this is very nice, I've placed a copy of this quote on my screen so that i can read it eveyday, Thanks.

you're welcome...

I always try and think about people in a worse situation than I when things are not going so well for me... makes me realize, there are people in a far worse off situation and that things are not as bad as they seem for me.

Chilenita · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

Thank you for your opinions and advise. @Chilenita, He does have other problems and that is been gay. The mother does know and she is still there for him and loves him just the same. I know that it's hard to deal with been gay and to look for acceptance specially if you are in a country where it's not accepted. I can see why he would turn to drugs but it would make sense to stay away from things that you know will harm you??

Ohhh that's a tough one Chica! I would rather shoot myself than be a gay man living in Chile. It's so hard for gays and lesbians in latin america because people have such a stupid mentality about that still. If he is only out to his mom than that leaves everyone else. Ugh to have to hide who you are must SUCK!!!!

Marky Mark · Foro Master

Daeveed wrote:

And another thing...
I don't know if money can buy you happiness or not.
But one thing I'm sure of.....
POVERTY can't buy you happiness!!!!!

But money CAN buy poverty!!

Daeveed · Foro Master

And another thing...

I don't know if money can buy you happiness or not.

But one thing I'm sure of.....

POVERTY can't buy you happiness!!!!!

Daeveed · Foro Master

Chilenita wrote:

Money can't buy you happiness.

True, but I'd rather cry in my Ferrari parked on my mansion's driveway.

Chica W · Guru

LGigolo wrote:

Chica W wrote: Thank you for your opinions and advise. @Chilenita, He does have other problems and that is been gay. The mother does know and she is still there for him and loves him just the same. I know that it's hard to deal with been gay and to look for acceptance specially if you are in a country where it's not accepted. I can see why he would turn to drugs but it would make sense to stay away from things that you know will harm you?? There are plenty of other gay people out there or people facing different issues in their lives that may be hard to deal with... turning to drugs just creates MORE problems instead of helping one solve problems... He may have a tough life or lots of issues to deal with; just need to learn to deal with them better. I was told something along the lines of: "No matter how dark your day looks - just remember that there are a lot of other people having darker days. Look ahead and try to make a sunny day for yourself"

Wow!! this is very nice, I've placed a copy of this quote on my screen so that i can read it eveyday, Thanks.

LGigolo · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

Thank you for your opinions and advise. @Chilenita, He does have other problems and that is been gay. The mother does know and she is still there for him and loves him just the same. I know that it's hard to deal with been gay and to look for acceptance specially if you are in a country where it's not accepted. I can see why he would turn to drugs but it would make sense to stay away from things that you know will harm you??

There are plenty of other gay people out there or people facing different issues in their lives that may be hard to deal with... turning to drugs just creates MORE problems instead of helping one solve problems... He may have a tough life or lots of issues to deal with; just need to learn to deal with them better.

I was told something along the lines of: "No matter how dark your day looks - just remember that there are a lot of other people having darker days. Look ahead and try to make a sunny day for yourself"

Chica W · Guru

Thank you for your opinions and advise.

@Chilenita, He does have other problems and that is been gay. The mother does know and she is still there for him and loves him just the same. I know that it's hard to deal with been gay and to look for acceptance specially if you are in a country where it's not accepted. I can see why he would turn to drugs but it would make sense to stay away from things that you know will harm you??

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

yeah until she gets her papers...takes 1/2 your money and Fucks your best friend So like I said can't buy you happiness.....hummm....perhaps it can buy you temporary happiness.....

ok...

I'll buy a Thai wife then...

Chilenita · Comandante

McOSIRIS wrote:

maybe not happiness, but definitelly a nice russian wife....

yeah until she gets her papers...takes 1/2 your money and Fucks your best friend

So like I said can't buy you happiness.....hummm....perhaps it can buy you temporary happiness.....

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Chilenita wrote:

Having money doesn't mean anything really. Haven't you seen how extremly messed up rich kids are. Coke is actually known as "the rich mans drug" it's not a cheap thing to be addicted to. My point is you can have mommy and daddy paying for an education, money, cars and still not be happy because that is not what brings happiness to people. Money can't buy you happiness. Look at all the famous people that can't get a grip on life. He has deeper issues and obviously his own family doesn't know what they are. Perhaps he is seriously depressed and nobody knows....he may use drugs as medication. I know in Latin America people don't take depression that seriously so perhaps he is self medicating. There could be any number of reason why he got this way....either way you cant help him until he is willing to help himself. If you are going to attempt to stage some sort of intervention it better be with professionals or you will fail. Sorry hear about your friend. It sucks and it's too bad it took the people close to him this long to notice....he sounds pretty far gone.

maybe not happiness, but definitelly a nice russian wife....

Chilenita · Comandante

Jinx wrote:

mmmm I've done my share of drugs, mainly just out of curiosity...

That is totally normal Jinx! Trying drugs is one thing and becoming a full blown addict is something else.

Chilenita · Comandante

Having money doesn't mean anything really. Haven't you seen how extremly messed up rich kids are. Coke is actually known as "the rich mans drug" it's not a cheap thing to be addicted to. My point is you can have mommy and daddy paying for an education, money, cars and still not be happy because that is not what brings happiness to people. Money can't buy you happiness. Look at all the famous people that can't get a grip on life. He has deeper issues and obviously his own family doesn't know what they are. Perhaps he is seriously depressed and nobody knows....he may use drugs as medication. I know in Latin America people don't take depression that seriously so perhaps he is self medicating. There could be any number of reason why he got this way....either way you cant help him until he is willing to help himself. If you are going to attempt to stage some sort of intervention it better be with professionals or you will fail.

Sorry hear about your friend. It sucks and it's too bad it took the people close to him this long to notice....he sounds pretty far gone.

Jinx · TOP Guru

mmmm I've done my share of drugs, mainly just out of curiosity...

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Salsera de Corazon wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO.... How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help?? There is nothing I can do from here.. DAMN IS HARD 2 SAY THE PERSON HAS 2 REALIZE BY THEM SELF IF HE OR SHE WANTS HELP, WHAT U CAN DO IS BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT BE THERE, BE A FRIEND WITHOUT JUDGING... I HAVE SEEN ALLOT OF PPL I KNOW THIS WAY THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING U. SOME OF THEM HAVE GOT OUT SOME OF THEM WHAT CAN I SAY WHEN I SEE THEM I HARDLY RECOGNIZE THEM.... quit looking in the mirror, suckah! LoL NAH BRO THANL GOD N MY MOM NEVER GOT IN THE $HIT, I DONE ALL TYPE OF CRAZY $HIT IN MY DAYS N STILL DO BUT NOT DRUGS, I AM ALREADY CRAZY NORMAL I JUST IMAGINE MY SELF IN DRUGS ILL BE WORSE, SOLO SOY BORRACHITO N PROUD.. Me too, solo borrachita and that is it

They let's get borrachos why waste time el tequila nos llama LoL

Salsera de Corazon · TOP Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

LGigolo wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO.... How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help?? There is nothing I can do from here.. DAMN IS HARD 2 SAY THE PERSON HAS 2 REALIZE BY THEM SELF IF HE OR SHE WANTS HELP, WHAT U CAN DO IS BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT BE THERE, BE A FRIEND WITHOUT JUDGING... I HAVE SEEN ALLOT OF PPL I KNOW THIS WAY THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING U. SOME OF THEM HAVE GOT OUT SOME OF THEM WHAT CAN I SAY WHEN I SEE THEM I HARDLY RECOGNIZE THEM.... quit looking in the mirror, suckah! LoL NAH BRO THANL GOD N MY MOM NEVER GOT IN THE $HIT, I DONE ALL TYPE OF CRAZY $HIT IN MY DAYS N STILL DO BUT NOT DRUGS, I AM ALREADY CRAZY NORMAL I JUST IMAGINE MY SELF IN DRUGS ILL BE WORSE, SOLO SOY BORRACHITO N PROUD..

Me too, solo borrachita and that is it

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

LGigolo wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO.... How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help?? There is nothing I can do from here.. DAMN IS HARD 2 SAY THE PERSON HAS 2 REALIZE BY THEM SELF IF HE OR SHE WANTS HELP, WHAT U CAN DO IS BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT BE THERE, BE A FRIEND WITHOUT JUDGING... I HAVE SEEN ALLOT OF PPL I KNOW THIS WAY THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING U. SOME OF THEM HAVE GOT OUT SOME OF THEM WHAT CAN I SAY WHEN I SEE THEM I HARDLY RECOGNIZE THEM.... quit looking in the mirror, suckah!

LoL NAH BRO THANL GOD N MY MOM NEVER GOT IN THE $HIT, I DONE ALL TYPE OF CRAZY $HIT IN MY DAYS N STILL DO BUT NOT DRUGS, I AM ALREADY CRAZY NORMAL I JUST IMAGINE MY SELF IN DRUGS ILL BE WORSE, SOLO SOY BORRACHITO N PROUD..

LGigolo · Comandante

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Chica W wrote: JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO.... How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help?? There is nothing I can do from here.. DAMN IS HARD 2 SAY THE PERSON HAS 2 REALIZE BY THEM SELF IF HE OR SHE WANTS HELP, WHAT U CAN DO IS BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT BE THERE, BE A FRIEND WITHOUT JUDGING... I HAVE SEEN ALLOT OF PPL I KNOW THIS WAY THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING U. SOME OF THEM HAVE GOT OUT SOME OF THEM WHAT CAN I SAY WHEN I SEE THEM I HARDLY RECOGNIZE THEM....

quit looking in the mirror, suckah!

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Chica W wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO.... How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help?? There is nothing I can do from here..

DAMN IS HARD 2 SAY THE PERSON HAS 2 REALIZE BY THEM SELF IF HE OR SHE WANTS HELP, WHAT U CAN DO IS BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT BE THERE, BE A FRIEND WITHOUT JUDGING... I HAVE SEEN ALLOT OF PPL I KNOW THIS WAY THAT'S WHY I AM TELLING U. SOME OF THEM HAVE GOT OUT SOME OF THEM WHAT CAN I SAY WHEN I SEE THEM I HARDLY RECOGNIZE THEM....

LGigolo · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO.... How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help?? There is nothing I can do from here..

Hitting "rock bottom" - when the worst things in life start becoming real to him/her... For instance - loosing custody of a child, losing all his/her material things and becoming homeless, losing good friendships/relationships with family... everyone is different!

reminds me of the tv show: "Intervention" - not sure what day or what channels, ... look it up and you may get some pointers.

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: How do you even start to help someone that is addicted, and is in a country where there isn’t that many resources to get help?? Just confrom the person n tell them what u feel. it's been done but denies that whole thing even when there is enough evidence to proof it. We feel like taking him to an isolated place where there is only food and water so that he can appreciate life a bit more.

don't take this matter in you own hands....he needs professional help... chemicals are very highly addictive and his body is gonna struggle if he does not have them... and that can be dangerous for any of the ppl surrounding him...

sad, but true...

-- Edited by McOSIRIS at 11:52, 2006-05-19

Chica W · Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

Chica W wrote: McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there. WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO....

How does an addict get to the point of wanting to get help??

There is nothing I can do from here..

Julie · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

JOKER_ESCO wrote: How do you even start to help someone that is addicted, and is in a country where there isn’t that many resources to get help?? Just confrom the person n tell them what u feel. it's been done but denies that whole thing even when there is enough evidence to proof it. We feel like taking him to an isolated place where there is only food and water so that he can appreciate life a bit more.

You mean hardcore desintox ! That might work but you have to be ready to go through some very nasty period during this isolation.

How somebody that has everything come to hard drugs and become an addict ? I don't think there is a right answer. But for sure your friend is trying to escape the/his reality the wrong way ! I have no idea about how seek for help here. Some of his buddies, like the newest one probablemente no son de muy buena compania tambien y por poco que sea influenciable, you're f@%&ed

I really hope you friend can come back from this bad trip (in every meanings) because it looks like he is already a multi-drug user which mean that this is not as new as you might think it is.

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

Chica W wrote:

McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there.

WOW IF HE IS USING NEEDLES THIS IS BIG TIME, SO HE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP, N THE ONLY WAY HE/SHE CAN GET IT IS IF HE/SHE WANTS HELP OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING U CAN REALLY DO....

Chica W · Guru

JOKER_ESCO wrote:

How do you even start to help someone that is addicted, and is in a country where there isn’t that many resources to get help?? Just confrom the person n tell them what u feel.

it's been done but denies that whole thing even when there is enough evidence to proof it.

We feel like taking him to an isolated place where there is only food and water so that he can appreciate life a bit more.

Daeveed · Foro Master

McOSIRIS wrote:

ok...those are serious drugs, and highly addictive... get him help ASAP... one thing is having a little joint and laughing ur a$$ off and another is injecting chemicals in ur body....

I agree.

Help

JOKER_ESCO · Foro Master

How do you even start to help someone that is addicted, and is in a country where there isn’t that many resources to get help?? Just confrom the person n tell them what u feel.

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there.

ok...those are serious drugs, and highly addictive... get him help ASAP...

one thing is having a little joint and laughing ur a$$ off and another is injecting chemicals in ur body....

McOSIRIS · Comandante

Daeveed wrote:

McOSIRIS wrote: what drugs is he taking??? and more important...where is he getting them from???

LOL....

BTW Bronquito says hi.... I know, I know.... I missed the guy....

Chica W · Guru

McOSIRIS wrote:

what drugs is he taking???

I think cocaina, and some needle drug, I'm not familiar with what's out there.

Daeveed · Foro Master

McOSIRIS wrote:

what drugs is he taking???

and more important...where is he getting them from???

LGigolo · Comandante

Chica W wrote:

Today I found out that someone very close to me has taken the wrong path. I’m nobody to judge and do respect the actions of others. What upsets me is that everything was given to this person, starting from a family with mommy and daddy, private schools, paid university to become a lawyer.  NERUDA!!??

This person had one year left to graduate but decided to drop out and become a hairdresser, there is nothing wrong with that but to turn to drugs and let you life fall through the cracks is just sad. I mean, what brings you to that point?? I GUESS BEING ADDICTED TO FORO IS NOT QUITE SO BAD, I MEAN, I STILL GET TO HAVE MY JOB

Do you need to be strong enough to say no to drugs or do you let yourself be influenced by others???  IT'S A PERSONAL CHOICE - I WAS RAISED TO BE AFRAID OF STREET DRUGS, THEREFORE NEVER TRIED THEM - (Ok, like Clinton said, I didn't inhale!)

I know that having everything does not make you happy but wouldn’t you make the most of what you have and appreciate it??   I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT HAVING EVERYTHING MEANS... but I have all that I need, even if I don't appreciate it enough sometimes.

Do you think that by earning things on your own you’d value it more??? DEFINATELY, you will know how much you have to work to make those $ 50 bucks to pay for that hit!

How do you even start to help someone that is addicted, and is in a country where there isn’t that many resources to get help?? hummm... does he want to be helped... it's said they need to hit "rock bottom" - who knows about this... but yeah, plenty of resources out there once he decides he does want to quit.

I've tried to quit once and was not successful - FORO is my drug!

Sorry guys!! I just need to vent…

McOSIRIS · Comandante

what drugs is he taking???

Chica W · Guru

Today I found out that someone very close to me has taken the wrong path. I’m nobody to judge and do respect the actions of others. What upsets me is that everything was given to this person, starting from a family with mommy and daddy, private schools, paid university to become a lawyer.

This person had one year left to graduate but decided to drop out and become a hairdresser, there is nothing wrong with that but to turn to drugs and let you life fall through the cracks is just sad.

I mean, what brings you to that point?? Do you need to be strong enough to say no to drugs or do you let yourself be influenced by others???

I know that having everything does not make you happy but wouldn’t you make the most of what you have and appreciate it??

Do you think that by earning things on your own you’d value it more???

How do you even start to help someone that is addicted, and is in a country where there isn’t that many resources to get help??

Sorry guys!! I just need to vent…