Chilenita wrote: CARDINAL SCHMARDINAL I say ......what does he know anyway.... I think he is more ofraid of pple starting to ask questions he might not have the answer for and to loose some revenue for his Church. Anyway, I don't think that pple with real faith, going to Church or not will be affected by thee movie, it's Fiction with a twist.
Some guys I know ,who upon reading the book, think that most of that staff is real, not fiction.
Well, I think Jesus died on the Cross and then He resurrected ( how?, I don't know ,I have my theories from some gnostic readings though).
I also think Jesus was not supposed to be our equal as it was stated that He was the son of God. (Other mistics say we are also part of God; and therefore, gods aswell,????)
Anyways, I read the book,liked it; but I hope new generations don't grow up being more uninterested in spirituality ( I don't worry too much if they don't care about religion)
CARDINAL SCHMARDINAL I say ......what does he know anyway....
I think he is more ofraid of pple starting to ask questions he might not have the answer for and to loose some revenue for his Church. Anyway, I don't think that pple with real faith, going to Church or not will be affected by thee movie, it's Fiction with a twist.
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The problem with this movie is that people are starting to remove the misticsm is Jesus and seeing him as just another man on the planet.
No no, I think you're wrong ! And if Jesus was crucified, well their must be some fisical remains. It does mean that there were no resurection but just not in his fisical corps, etc.....But at the same time, wasn't Jesus the equal to any other man ?
Anyway, here is the plot from the book.
While in Paris on business, Harvard symbologist Robert Langdon receives an urgent late-night phone call: the elderly curator of the Louvre has been murdered inside the museum. Near the body, police have found a baffling cipher. Solving the enigmatic riddle, Langdon is stunned to discover it leads to a trail of clues hidden in the works of Da Vinci…clues visible for all to see…and yet ingeniously disguised by the painter.
Langdon joins forces with a gifted French cryptologist, Sophie Neveu, and learns the late curator was involved in the Priory of Sion—an actual secret society whose members included Sir Isaac Newton, Botticelli, Victor Hugo, and Da Vinci, among others. The Louvre curator has sacrificed his life to protect the Priory's most sacred trust: the location of a vastly important religious relic, hidden for centuries.
In a breathless race through Paris, London, and beyond, Langdon and Neveu match wits with a faceless powerbroker who appears to work for Opus Dei—a clandestine, Vatican-sanctioned Catholic sect believed to have long plotted to seize the Priory's secret. Unless Langdon and Neveu can decipher the labyrinthine puzzle in time, the Priory's secret—and a stunning historical truth—will be lost forever.
In an exhilarating blend of relentless adventure, scholarly intrigue, and cutting wit, symbologist Robert Langdon (first introduced in Dan Brown's bestselling Angels & Demons) is the most original character to appear in years. THE DA VINCI CODE heralds the arrival of a new breed of lightening-paced, intelligent thriller…surprising at every twist, absorbing at every turn, and in the end, utterly unpredictable…right up to its astonishing conclusion.
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I've known the " story" of Jesus getting married with Mary Madgalene since I was a child cause a little boddy friend of mine told me about it. HIs father was a rosacruccian and he told me not to tell anybody, that all would be known around the year 2000.
How rigth he was. So, I know these staff is nothing new, it's been "believed" by many since 2 k years ago.
I choose to keep my mind open. I believe everything has good and bad staff, and the catholic church is not exception. I personally think Jesus did die on the Cross. The problem with this movie is that people are starting to remove the misticsm is Jesus and seeing him as just another man on the planet.
I ve read the book and I must say its a really good book...You definately will learn a lot and also you vocabulary will surely get better...lol
Ummm as for the movie...I am going to go watch it but I am not expecting it to cover the book..I mean that book has SO MANY DETAILS...I hope that they do though..usually movies are never better then the book...anyways hope its good...looking forward to it..
JR wrote: Julie wrote: El Duro wrote: conspiracy 2 what bro u guy have to watch stigmata the is a geat movie about the church and the hidden things You should watch "the body" as well, not the best movie in terms of acting but the "guion" is good. which one is that i havent heard of it quienes son los protagonistas http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0201485/ With Antonio Banderas, Olivia Williams....
Julie wrote: El Duro wrote: conspiracy 2 what bro u guy have to watch stigmata the is a geat movie about the church and the hidden things You should watch "the body" as well, not the best movie in terms of acting but the "guion" is good. which one is that i havent heard of it quienes son los protagonistas
There's an old movie called The Last Temptation of Christ, it was banned from the Chilean theatres for a long time...I watched and I liked it.... it plays with some elements that also appear in the Da Vinci's Code.
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El Duro wrote: conspiracy 2 what bro u guy have to watch stigmata the is a geat movie about the church and the hidden things You should watch "the body" as well, not the best movie in terms of acting but the "guion" is good.
which one is that i havent heard of it quienes son los protagonistas
i have read the book and trust me...the movie will never be the same. the book was an awesome read...i dont like to read but with this book, it couldnt put it down!!! i even waiting in the parkig lot of a mall cause i had to finish a chapter...it was that good!!! it was amazing...im starting to read angels and demons now...great book as well
El Duro wrote: NeNa wrote: Julie wrote: I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God. Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic... I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. .. mami want to lend it to me I didn't know u knew how to read??? just kidding babes.. of course I let you borrow it!!! but do read it!!
NeNa wrote: Julie wrote: I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God. Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic... I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. .. mami want to lend it to me
I didn't know u knew how to read???
just kidding babes.. of course I let you borrow it!!! but do read it!!
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NeNa wrote: Julie wrote: I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God. Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic... I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. .. CONSPIRACY
conspiracy 2 what bro
u guy have to watch stigmata the is a geat movie about the church and the hidden things
Julie wrote: I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God. Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic... I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. ..
I think since then I've read almost all his book, and they are all as good, still fiction, and always try to keep you alert, which is what is really interesting and entertaining.
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Julie wrote: I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God. Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic... I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. ..
Julie wrote: I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God. Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic... I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. ..
I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book. But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God.
Soo truee Julie.. is all about how much faith you have.. if u say u're catholic but then have doubts about it after u read/watch the movie, then u weren't really catholic...
I have read the book.. yes it's pretty long.. but it was worth it.. ..
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I think that Miguel is right, you can just watch the movie and skip the book. I've seen some preview and it is really as discribe in the book.
But I think it is still a good way of forcing the pple to react and think. Plus, if you have faith, I don't think it will affect it because it is more about the Church and the pple that runs it than your believes in God.
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El Duro wrote: I want to read it, but since the movie is comming out i might see it first don't bother reading it, just watch the movie the book is like a movie script anyway
Definitely watch the movie. It's gonna be sooo good! If you take route to read book, then I guess your gonna have to quit the Foro and that lost time can make up for reading the rest of the book
miguel wrote: i am not a religious person, but there's a lot of _crap_ in that book
there must be something to all that _crap_ that has made it one of the top books to read.....i also haven't read it yet so can't really tell u much but from the little that i have gather around from people it makes a lot of sense and as u can see a lot of dollars
Julie wrote: VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - In the latest Vatican broadside against "The Da Vinci Code," a leading cardinal says Christians should respond to the book and film with legal action because both offend Christ and the Church he founded.
Funny that's why I left the Catholic church because THEY offend Christ and the Church he founded.
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - In the latest Vatican broadside against "The Da Vinci Code," a leading cardinal says Christians should respond to the book and film with legal action because both offend Christ and the Church he founded.
Cardinal Francis Arinze, a Nigerian who was considered a candidate for pope last year, made his strong comments in a documentary called "The Da Vinci Code-A Masterful Deception."
Arinze's appeal came some 10 days after another Vatican cardinal called for a boycott of the film. Both cardinals asserted that other religions would never stand for offences against their beliefs and that Christians should get tough.
"Christians must not just sit back and say it is enough for us to forgive and to forget," Arinze said in the documentary made by Rome film maker Mario Biasetti for Rome Reports, a Catholic film agency specializing in religious affairs.
"Sometimes it is our duty to do something practical. So it is not I who will tell all Christians what to do but some know legal means which can be taken in order to get the other person to respect the rights of others," Arinze said.
"This is one of the fundamental human rights: that we should be respected, our religious beliefs respected, and our founder Jesus Christ respected," he said, without elaborating on what legal means he had in mind.
A transcript of the documentary, due to be screened in Rome later this month just before the release of the film version of the best-selling book at the Cannes Film Festival, was made available to Reuters.
The book, written by Dan Brown, has sold more than 40 million copies.
The novel is an international murder mystery centered on attempts to uncover a secret about the life of Christ that a clandestine society has tried to protect for centuries.
The central tenet of the book is that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had children.
BLASPHEMY
"Those who blaspheme Christ and get away with it are exploiting the Christian readiness to forgive and to love even those who insult us. There are some other religions which if you insult their founder they will not be just talking. They will make it painfully clear to you," Arinze said.
This appeared to be a reference to protests by Muslims around the world over cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad.
Last month, another broadside against "The Da Vinci Code" was launched by Archbishop Angelo Amato, the number two official in the Vatican doctrinal office which was headed by Pope Benedict until his election last year.
Amato urged a boycott of the film and Arinze, like his fellow cardinal, also blasted the credibility of the book.
"'The Da Vinci Code' presents (Christianity) wrongly ... any film produced on the basis of that book is already in error from the word go, no matter how interesting it might appear," Arinze said.
Catholic group Opus Dei has told Sony Pictures that putting a disclaimer on the movie stressing it is a work of fiction would be a welcome show of respect toward the Church.
In the novel and film, Opus Dei is characterized as the latest in a series of secretive groups that worked over the centuries to obscure truths about Jesus Christ.
Opus Dei is a controversial conservative Church group whose members are mostly non-clerics and are urged to seek holiness in their everyday professional jobs and lives. It has rejected criticisms that it is secretive and elitist.
Do you think the Church should request and go for legal action against the movie makers and/or the writer ?
Personally, I don't. I really enjoyed the book, I know it is all fiction but the research that were made by the author prior to the writing prove that they are many things that we don't really know. I am not saying that we have to believe in the book, as I said, it's fiction but at least, it opens you mind to new questions and way of thinking which I think was the primary purpose of Dan Brown.
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