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I don't really talk to him it's been at least 6 years.  And i think that i would still have to go throught the court system anyway, otherwise ill get screwed later on.


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The best thing is to go through the court system because once an Order has been issued by the judge the support payments will be easier to enforce through the fro (family Responsibility Office) He will not be able to get any tax returns, GST etc.


The court will look into how much he is making and they will apply that amount to the child support guidlines which is the chart that the court follows.  His financial situation could have changed since six years ago.  And for those men that try to avoid paying child support by not working the court can still order payment on what the judge feels he should be making.  For example if he was a mechanic and is now unemployed, they would look at what he should be making.


 


 


 


 


 



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I LOVE this idea.  An ex friend of mine spends her welfare cheques and her children's support cheques on her hair, nails, and car rentals!!!  Obviously, that's why she's an ex friend.


what a bi*tch - y no te invita ni siquiera a pasear en el rental, ni pagar por tu manicure ni pedicure... THAT IS A BAD FRIEND!!!

-- Edited by LGigolo at 15:54, 2006-05-03

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I LOVE this idea.  An ex friend of mine spends her welfare cheques and her children's support cheques on her hair, nails, and car rentals!!! 


Obviously, that's why she's an ex friend.



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Chale Tanga wrote:


doesnt matter who makes more money.. the child was created by both parents, not just the one that is in custody of the child.  Both should be responsible financially for the child, not just the one making more money.

I agree Chale!!  I always tell my brother he should get the child support for his daughter!  He makes more than she does but so what he is the one raising his daughter and like you said they should both be responsible!!

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QUESTION: what if the parent with custody of the child makes more money than the other parent, how do you feel about pursuing for child support then? I have a friend that hasn't seeked child support since her and her hubby split up (her son was 2 at the time and now he's 11).  She makes more money than his ass but she also feels he needs to step up as a parent and take responsibility.  It's not necesarily about the money but more so the obligation as a parent. what are your thoughts?

It's not about how much each makes, it's about the COSTS OF RAISING a child being split among parents in a FAIR way... She may may enough to support the kid on her own (and even to support his ass on the side - LOL); but that doesn't take away HIS responsibility towards the child.

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doesnt matter who makes more money.. the child was created by both parents, not just the one that is in custody of the child.  Both should be responsible financially for the child, not just the one making more money.

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QUESTION: what if the parent with custody of the child makes more money than the other parent, how do you feel about pursuing for child support then?


I have a friend that hasn't seeked child support since her and her hubby split up (her son was 2 at the time and now he's 11).  She makes more money than his ass but she also feels he needs to step up as a parent and take responsibility.  It's not necesarily about the money but more so the obligation as a parent.


what are your thoughts?



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LGigolo wrote:


yeah well I think this is where the whole "watch who you have kids with" comes into play.  TRANSLATION: Girls, make sure he is loaded ($) that way you can actually sue him for something!


that's so not what I meant


 



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LGigolo wrote: Chilenita wrote: LGigolo wrote: 70 a month - ni pa la comida de un niño! (Shikes, say McDees 1x/week x4 in a month - there goes $ 20)... if they still use diapers, ni pa' los pañales... $ 250  may sound more reasonable, but it DEPENDS ON THE INCOME OF THE PARENT.   A parent making minimum wage may not be able to afford $ 250 - or may not have that much left after (rent and food for self) their own personal expenses... but then again - THE CHILD MUST COME FIRST... That's what courts are for: help find a fair "number" - the amount that must be paid. I agree LG but I think the whole monitoring the single parent is ridiculous.   I agree there - not necesary to give details where every penny was spent - not when it's OBVIOUS that 250 a month don't go too far... Now if the figure was a lot higher - say a few thousand (5,000 a month to have a nice round figure - YES, for the Hollywood rich ppl) I would love to see how THAT money gets spent ON MY CHILD...  then again, if I was ordered to shell out 5,000 a month - it would mean I am doing great financially!  PLZ, let me dream in the middle of the afternoon! yeah well I think this is where the whole "watch who you have kids with" comes into play. 

TRANSLATION: Girls, make sure he is loaded ($) that way you can actually sue him for something!

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Jaime Cruz wrote: This news is from the U.S but I like the concept and would like to know what you think.They might come out with Debit Cards for child support. That way you can see exactly what the money is being spent on and it can only be used for things like day care, childrens clothes shoes, groceries, etc. Anything else they would have to get approval which means they can't be at the mall getting a Gucci Bag or some $hit. I think this would be good. I thinks is good cause there 2 many gold diggers out there...

yeah I think the number of gold diggers is equal to or less than the number of deadbeats

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This news is from the U.S but I like the concept and would like to know what you think.They might come out with Debit Cards for child support. That way you can see exactly what the money is being spent on and it can only be used for things like day care, childrens clothes shoes, groceries, etc. Anything else they would have to get approval which means they can't be at the mall getting a Gucci Bag or some $hit. I think this would be good.

I thinks is good cause there 2 many gold diggers out there...

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Chilenita wrote: LGigolo wrote: 70 a month - ni pa la comida de un niño! (Shikes, say McDees 1x/week x4 in a month - there goes $ 20)... if they still use diapers, ni pa' los pañales... $ 250  may sound more reasonable, but it DEPENDS ON THE INCOME OF THE PARENT.   A parent making minimum wage may not be able to afford $ 250 - or may not have that much left after (rent and food for self) their own personal expenses... but then again - THE CHILD MUST COME FIRST... That's what courts are for: help find a fair "number" - the amount that must be paid. I agree LG but I think the whole monitoring the single parent is ridiculous.   I agree there - not necesary to give details where every penny was spent - not when it's OBVIOUS that 250 a month don't go too far... Now if the figure was a lot higher - say a few thousand (5,000 a month to have a nice round figure - YES, for the Hollywood rich ppl) I would love to see how THAT money gets spent ON MY CHILD...  then again, if I was ordered to shell out 5,000 a month - it would mean I am doing great financially!  PLZ, let me dream in the middle of the afternoon!


yeah well I think this is where the whole "watch who you have kids with" comes into play. 



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GOOD, its about time something like this came along, YOU know how many BI@Tches take advantage of being single moms. The money they recieve never goes to the child, mostly going to clubs. SEE this all the time. NOT all of them though.
I was ready to jump on you but since you said Not All Them I'll let it go




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LGigolo wrote: 70 a month - ni pa la comida de un niño! (Shikes, say McDees 1x/week x4 in a month - there goes $ 20)... if they still use diapers, ni pa' los pañales... $ 250  may sound more reasonable, but it DEPENDS ON THE INCOME OF THE PARENT.   A parent making minimum wage may not be able to afford $ 250 - or may not have that much left after (rent and food for self) their own personal expenses... but then again - THE CHILD MUST COME FIRST... That's what courts are for: help find a fair "number" - the amount that must be paid. I agree LG but I think the whole monitoring the single parent is ridiculous. 


 I agree there - not necesary to give details where every penny was spent - not when it's OBVIOUS that 250 a month don't go too far...


Now if the figure was a lot higher - say a few thousand (5,000 a month to have a nice round figure - YES, for the Hollywood rich ppl) I would love to see how THAT money gets spent ON MY CHILD...  then again, if I was ordered to shell out 5,000 a month - it would mean I am doing great financially! 


PLZ, let me dream in the middle of the afternoon!



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70 a month - ni pa la comida de un niño! (Shikes, say McDees 1x/week x4 in a month - there goes $ 20)... if they still use diapers, ni pa' los pañales... $ 250  may sound more reasonable, but it DEPENDS ON THE INCOME OF THE PARENT.   A parent making minimum wage may not be able to afford $ 250 - or may not have that much left after (rent and food for self) their own personal expenses... but then again - THE CHILD MUST COME FIRST... That's what courts are for: help find a fair "number" - the amount that must be paid.

I agree LG but I think the whole monitoring the single parent is ridiculous. 

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70 a month - ni pa la comida de un niño! (Shikes, say McDees 1x/week x4 in a month - there goes $ 20)... if they still use diapers, ni pa' los pañales...


$ 250  may sound more reasonable, but it DEPENDS ON THE INCOME OF THE PARENT.   A parent making minimum wage may not be able to afford $ 250 - or may not have that much left after (rent and food for self) their own personal expenses... but then again - THE CHILD MUST COME FIRST...


That's what courts are for: help find a fair "number" - the amount that must be paid.



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Excelent idea...


I hope I never have to use it though.....



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GOOD, its about time something like this came along, YOU know how many BI@Tches take advantage of being single moms. The money they recieve never goes to the child, mostly going to clubs. SEE this all the time. NOT all of them though.

I was ready to jump on you but since you said Not All Them I'll let it go

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Well I think that the madatory 250 a month is a bit of a joke anyway.  What does that cover really?  My brother is a single dad and his ex woman doesn't give him jack SHIT.  Thank God he doesn't need it anyway because 250.00 doesn't help much.  Childcare alone is crazy expensive never mind all the day to day things you need and then of course there are the unexpected things that can come up in a month.  Do I think the other parent should get to see a detailed list of what is being bought with the money NO!!!  Not unless they also want a detailed list of all the things they didn't pay for like a roof over the kids head....clothes...haircuts....grocery list....etc....


If you had a child with someone that would put a bag or dancing b4 your child I am afraid that is too bad but I would like to think it's no the majority that do that.



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I think we are well on our way to becoming like the USA...for me its not a good thing ...but I mean now that you mention this...here in Toronto they are trying to be like NEW YORK and impose a law that New york has about the NOISE LEVEL in the city. Did any of you guys hear about this? I think you probably have at one time or another on the news.  

Was that when they had a City Poll in regards to the NOISE Level?  They said how people shouldnt use electronics equipment on a Sunday and what not.    I totally disagree with the idea just because there are alot of people that can only do cleaning on Sundays since they work M-S or around that schedule.

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I don't really talk to him it's been at least 6 years.  And i think that i would still have to go throught the court system anyway, otherwise ill get screwed later on.

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Im thinking about taking him back to court, is it wrong that i feel guilty doing this though, cause i know it will go retroactive back at least 6 years?


mmmmm..thats a few thausand there....have a normal conversation with him, be honest and tell him that $70/mth doesn't cover much....he should be paying at leas $250 a month..if not...sue his ass....

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Im thinking about taking him back to court, is it wrong that i feel guilty doing this though, cause i know it will go retroactive back at least 6 years?

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I like this idea that way a$$hole can see how far his 75/month takes me.


LMAO.....sue his ass girl.....

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I like this idea that way a$$hole can see how far his 75/month takes me.

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I think we are well on our way to becoming like the USA...for me its not a good thing ...but I mean now that you mention this...here in Toronto they are trying to be like NEW YORK and impose a law that New york has about the NOISE LEVEL in the city. Did any of you guys hear about this? I think you probably have at one time or another on the news.


 



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Julie wrote: Sounds like a great idea ! Because that's the only things this money should be used for. I am curious though to see further information on this because it might be very appealing but at the same time...... i need to read more about it. It's a possibility right now in the U.S I could take years for it to happen and there are some complications as far a what is considered a necessity for some children and not for others. I don't think this would happen here is Canada.

I sure hope they do.  Canada needs to step right up to the plate compared to the US.  Alot of the scams and basura come from there to here unfortunately.  They should get that approved here ASAP.

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Canada would eventualy follow in the US steps....I just hope so....

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Sounds like a great idea ! Because that's the only things this money should be used for. I am curious though to see further information on this because it might be very appealing but at the same time...... i need to read more about it.

It's a possibility right now in the U.S
I could take years for it to happen and there are some complications as far a what is considered a necessity for some children and not for others. I don't think this would happen here is Canada.

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Sounds like a great idea ! Because that's the only things this money should be used for.


I am curious though to see further information on this because it might be very appealing but at the same time...... i need to read more about it.



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GOOD, its about time something like this came along, YOU know how many BI@Tches take advantage of being single moms. The money they recieve never goes to the child,
mostly going to clubs. SEE this all the time. NOT all of them though.

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Jaime Cruz wrote:


This news is from the U.S but I like the concept and would like to know what you think.They might come out with Debit Cards for child support. That way you can see exactly what the money is being spent on and it can only be used for things like day care, childrens clothes shoes, groceries, etc. Anything else they would have to get approval which means they can't be at the mall getting a Gucci Bag or some $hit. I think this would be good.


yep thats a great idea i think!!!! cuz some baby mamas just spend the money on themselves!!!! horrible i tell u!!!



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This news is from the U.S but I like the concept and would like to know what you think.
They might come out with Debit Cards for child support. That way you can see exactly what the money is being spent on and it can only be used for things like day care, childrens clothes shoes, groceries, etc. Anything else they would have to get approval which means they can't be at the mall getting a Gucci Bag or some $hit. I think this would be good.



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