ok first of LOL to Chile for the 'no apology necessary' comment @Lab: Call the TTC already To answer the question: No kids; and I would like to teach him/her about drugs to let them make an adult decision... hopefully they make that decision AFTER graduating university/college so they don't blow their minds while in school. If my kid would want to try it, i would smoke it with them to show how uncool it is to smoke with 'dad'. Then they would probably start a hate thread or something.
see I can't do that cuz I am too cool and too much fun when I am high....
@Baina...let's see here....I will be paying for her clothes when she hits puberty so she won't be dressing like that!! Of course she will have some options but dressing like a tramp won't be one of them just like tacky SHIT will also be out of the question. I need to teach her how to dress and whore = tacky = bad dresser so yeah once she makes her own money she can be as tacky as she wants to be but I'll make fun of her
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Chilenita wrote: Okay let's stick to pot....would I have a problem with my 19 yr old smoking pot..NO. No problem with that at all. Actually if she smokes pot instead of drinking I would be a happy camper! Think about the drunk out of control girls you have seen out there....man I much rather her smoke!! It's complicated though like I would hate for her to take up smoking tabacco!! I would hate for her to be into other types of drugs. Since we are talking pot then I say I would not have an issue with her smoking it at that age. Interesting. What about if your daughter hits puberty...and she comes out with watermelons and a nice phat A$$!!! LOL ...and she starts to wear real trashy clothes??? Her choice or not???
are we talking about a 19 year old still
BTW don't talk about my unborn daughter like that or I'll punch you in the face really hard
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ok first of LOL to Chile for the 'no apology necessary' comment
@Lab: Call the TTC already
To answer the question: No kids; and I would like to teach him/her about drugs to let them make an adult decision... hopefully they make that decision AFTER graduating university/college so they don't blow their minds while in school.
If my kid would want to try it, i would smoke it with them to show how uncool it is to smoke with 'dad'. Then they would probably start a hate thread or something.
Chilenita wrote: Okay let's stick to pot....would I have a problem with my 19 yr old smoking pot..NO. No problem with that at all. Actually if she smokes pot instead of drinking I would be a happy camper! Think about the drunk out of control girls you have seen out there....man I much rather her smoke!! It's complicated though like I would hate for her to take up smoking tabacco!! I would hate for her to be into other types of drugs. Since we are talking pot then I say I would not have an issue with her smoking it at that age.
Interesting.
What about if your daughter hits puberty...and she comes out with watermelons and a nice phat A$$!!! LOL
...and she starts to wear real trashy clothes???
Her choice or not???
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Salsera de Corazon wrote: LAB_ wrote: Salsera de Corazon wrote: Bainaman wrote: The left wing comment was made as reference to the liberal thinking many of you share. Maybe I was way off base....and for the...I apologize. However... Many of you have expressed the matter of "choice" and how kids should be able to make their own choices to lead their lives. So why not with this??? You know what as a parent I can tell you my own opinion that all you can do for your children is just to give them the best advice, there will be a lot of choices that the kids would make and we might not be happy with it, all we can do in a future is just to be there for them, no matter what, I don't agree for my kid to smoke pot, all I can do is just teaching that is not good, but once he'll get to the age of deciding for his own he'll make his own choice witl all due respect, I think the problem is teaching them (itīs not good) something they have no way to corroborate by themselves. (weed tastes good... to some people, at least). So, as soon as they "taste" and find it... not "not good".... forget about physical dependence awareness, harder-drug-bridging awareness or any other kind of awareness in what regards to drugs. What I meant by teaching my kid was that DRUGS are not good
oh, sure, they are not. that's why we are discussing whether to support our -in my case, hypothetical- children should they decide to engage in serious drug use. Because drugs are bad.
Whatever I think may be bad, believe me, I will not support my children to do. In no way.
Oh... did I say that I don't think drugs are "bad"?
@ Chilenita - I'm talking about choice in general....not just religion or drugs. I think experimentation comes natural at certain ages......some dabble with certain things....some with others......some with none......... I'm not saying that I think that those who are smoking pot (or any drug for that matter)...SHOULD introduce it to their kids......I'm saying....if your kids (of legal age) happen to do it....and you catch them.......would you have a problem with it?
Okay let's stick to pot....would I have a problem with my 19 yr old smoking pot..NO. No problem with that at all. Actually if she smokes pot instead of drinking I would be a happy camper! Think about the drunk out of control girls you have seen out there....man I much rather her smoke!! It's complicated though like I would hate for her to take up smoking tabacco!! I would hate for her to be into other types of drugs. Since we are talking pot then I say I would not have an issue with her smoking it at that age.
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(Remember I have already said I may not be the right person to talk about this, since Iīm not a father myself? Well, bearing that in mind... )
Yes, 19 would be ok.
I would make sure to work so hard in helping my children to trust me as to assume that we would be able to find a way for him/her to feel free to do whatīs safe, safely.
I don't have kids either.....so it's all good.....hypothetical for the sake of discussion....
So you're stated you dislike of coke... for you've seen the affects and what it does to people. Would you let your son/daughter do coke at the age 19 if they so choosed???
@ Chilenita - I'm talking about choice in general....not just religion or drugs.
I think experimentation comes natural at certain ages......some dabble with certain things....some with others......some with none.........
I'm not saying that I think that those who are smoking pot (or any drug for that matter)...SHOULD introduce it to their kids......I'm saying....if your kids (of legal age) happen to do it....and you catch them.......would you have a problem with it?
Everyone will have a different answer according to their belief...
oK, if we can keep it at the hypothetical (f@ck u baina, I had to copy n paste LOL) level....
my child is 19. i find out she/he's doing coke. i talk to him/her about the facts of addiction, physical addiction and the mentally disabling consequences it can have. i offer him/her a ride to talk to some hard core coke doers who dropped off so they could spare their own life. i would offer him/her a ride to a detox clinic, to understand how much needs to be invested once the drug user is beyond a point of self containment. And would roll a spliff and offer an ounce a month, provided that he/she a) will use a volcano and b) won't sell any of it.
hey, it's EASY when one doesn't actually have a kid! Eh?
Salsera de Corazon wrote: Bainaman wrote: The left wing comment was made as reference to the liberal thinking many of you share. Maybe I was way off base....and for the...I apologize. However... Many of you have expressed the matter of "choice" and how kids should be able to make their own choices to lead their lives. So why not with this??? You know what as a parent I can tell you my own opinion that all you can do for your children is just to give them the best advice, there will be a lot of choices that the kids would make and we might not be happy with it, all we can do in a future is just to be there for them, no matter what, I don't agree for my kid to smoke pot, all I can do is just teaching that is not good, but once he'll get to the age of deciding for his own he'll make his own choice witl all due respect, I think the problem is teaching them (itīs not good) something they have no way to corroborate by themselves. (weed tastes good... to some people, at least). So, as soon as they "taste" and find it... not "not good".... forget about physical dependence awareness, harder-drug-bridging awareness or any other kind of awareness in what regards to drugs.
What I meant by teaching my kid was that DRUGS are not good
Salsera de Corazon wrote: Bainaman wrote: The left wing comment was made as reference to the liberal thinking many of you share. Maybe I was way off base....and for the...I apologize. However... Many of you have expressed the matter of "choice" and how kids should be able to make their own choices to lead their lives. So why not with this??? You know what as a parent I can tell you my own opinion that all you can do for your children is just to give them the best advice, there will be a lot of choices that the kids would make and we might not be happy with it, all we can do in a future is just to be there for them, no matter what, I don't agree for my kid to smoke pot, all I can do is just teaching that is not good, but once he'll get to the age of deciding for his own he'll make his own choice
witl all due respect, I think the problem is teaching them (itīs not good) something they have no way to corroborate by themselves. (weed tastes good... to some people, at least). So, as soon as they "taste" and find it... not "not good".... forget about physical dependence awareness, harder-drug-bridging awareness or any other kind of awareness in what regards to drugs.
LAB_ wrote: (Remember I have already said I may not be the right person to talk about this, since Iīm not a father myself? Well, bearing that in mind... )
Yes, 19 would be ok.
I would make sure to work so hard in helping my children to trust me as to assume that we would be able to find a way for him/her to feel free to do whatīs safe, safely.
I don't have kids either.....so it's all good.....hypothetical for the sake of discussion....
So you're stated you dislike of coke... for you've seen the affects and what it does to people. Would you let your son/daughter do coke at the age 19 if they so choosed???
@ Chilenita - I'm talking about choice in general....not just religion or drugs.
I think experimentation comes natural at certain ages......some dabble with certain things....some with others......some with none.........
I'm not saying that I think that those who are smoking pot (or any drug for that matter)...SHOULD introduce it to their kids......I'm saying....if your kids (of legal age) happen to do it....and you catch them.......would you have a problem with it?
Everyone will have a different answer according to their belief...
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The left wing comment was made as reference to the liberal thinking many of you share. Maybe I was way off base....and for the...I apologize. However... Many of you have expressed the matter of "choice" and how kids should be able to make their own choices to lead their lives. So why not with this???
You know what as a parent I can tell you my own opinion that all you can do for your children is just to give them the best advice, there will be a lot of choices that the kids would make and we might not be happy with it, all we can do in a future is just to be there for them, no matter what, I don't agree for my kid to smoke pot, all I can do is just teaching that is not good, but once he'll get to the age of deciding for his own he'll make his own choice
Because any mind altering substance should be limited to those who can be responsible for the actions that may ensue from its consumption -say... legally speaking?
So at the legal age of 19 is ok???
(Remember I have already said I may not be the right person to talk about this, since Iīm not a father myself? Well, bearing that in mind... )
Yes, 19 would be ok.
I would make sure to work so hard in helping my children to trust me as to assume that we would be able to find a way for him/her to feel free to do whatīs safe, safely.
The left wing comment was made as reference to the liberal thinking many of you share. Maybe I was way off base....and for the...I apologize. However... Many of you have expressed the matter of "choice" and how kids should be able to make their own choices to lead their lives. So why not with this???
don't apologize I am not MJ (just kidding I love you MJ)
Are you talking about religion? I think that is where I have said I would like my child to be old enough to decide what religion they would like to follow. I don't think you can compare that to my allowing my child to smoke up at 11 or get wasted. I know you can see the difference there. I would be willing to bet money on the fact that YOU have at some point tried and illegal substance or had something to drink b4 the age of consent does that mean you would promote those actions to your child?
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Because any mind altering substance should be limited to those who can be responsible for the actions that may ensue from its consumption -say... legally speaking?
So at the legal age of 19 is ok???
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Bainaman wrote: The left wing comment was made as reference to the liberal thinking many of you share. Maybe I was way off base....and for the...I apologize.
However...
Many of you have expressed the matter of "choice" and how kids should be able to make their own choices to lead their lives.
So why not with this???
Because any mind altering substance should be limited to those who can be responsible for the actions that may ensue from its consumption -say... legally speaking?
NOW, completly off subject... could some please tell me how to get from downtown to Etobicoke, more specifically the Civic Centre? Bearing in mind that Iīd need to take the ttc? Please help!!
I started smoking at 14 and a half - lol!! High school oh man was I high in high school. I started smoking with some spanish guys I was hanging around.
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Chilenita wrote: Daeveed wrote: I would feed my kids milk kicked up with some acid.
acid is so not cool for kids @Lab but there is no age of consent for herbs...it's illegal oh and WHY THE FUCK is it so hard to get in Cuba...coke no problemo all the coke you want but herbs...not so easy
gotta know the right ppl.
one of my dealers down there is 65 and kickin... never been to jail!
i f@cking hate f@cking coke. Spent three years chasing a friend around until we managed to get him into rehab. Just hate that thing.
yeah, I know. But that's a valid cliche, you know... for example, W Bush snorted cocaine up to his forehead and, sure, he's a left winger ALRIGHT!
Hummm my dad is about as far left as anyone can get!! Very far left and he was never touched the stuff...ever...he said "el partido" in his youth looked down on that sort of thing....lack of disipline or something along those lines....so yeah he is left wing but so not into trying drugs.
Bush yeah he is a drunken coke head.
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Chilenita wrote: Daeveed wrote: I would feed my kids milk kicked up with some acid.
acid is so not cool for kids @Lab but there is no age of consent for herbs...it's illegal oh and WHY THE FUCK is it so hard to get in Cuba...coke no problemo all the coke you want but herbs...not so easy
age of consent as in being responsible for their actions. Say, if I'm stopped by the police, if they find I'm high, and that my -under aged- buddie is also high... I'm in BIG BIG trouble there.
Chilenita wrote: Bainaman wrote: I'm interested to know if and or why all you extreme left wing thinkers have a problem with your kids doing drugs at any age really? YOU DO IT!! WHY CAN'T THEY????
Okay what does left wing anything have to do with drugs? Now about the kids doing drugs thing. I didn't start smoking pot at 11 and niether should my kid. It's not like I was toking up at 5 but I refuse to let my kids do it. Okay why am I explaining this ....it's a bit of a silly questions.....do you want your children trying any illegal substance you may have tried b4 the age of 19?
I would feed my kids milk kicked up with some acid.
acid is so not cool for kids
@Lab but there is no age of consent for herbs...it's illegal oh and WHY THE FUCK is it so hard to get in Cuba...coke no problemo all the coke you want but herbs...not so easy
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Chilenita wrote: Bainaman wrote: I'm interested to know if and or why all you extreme left wing thinkers have a problem with your kids doing drugs at any age really? YOU DO IT!! WHY CAN'T THEY????
Okay what does left wing anything have to do with drugs? Now about the kids doing drugs thing. I didn't start smoking pot at 11 and niether should my kid. It's not like I was toking up at 5 but I refuse to let my kids do it. Okay why am I explaining this ....it's a bit of a silly questions.....do you want your children trying any illegal substance you may have tried b4 the age of 19?
yeah, I know. But that's a valid cliche, you know... for example, W Bush snorted cocaine up to his forehead and, sure, he's a left winger ALRIGHT!
I'm interested to know if and or why all you extreme left wing thinkers have a problem with your kids doing drugs at any age really? YOU DO IT!! WHY CAN'T THEY????
Okay what does left wing anything have to do with drugs?
Now about the kids doing drugs thing. I didn't start smoking pot at 11 and niether should my kid. It's not like I was toking up at 5 but I refuse to let my kids do it.
Okay why am I explaining this ....it's a bit of a silly questions.....do you want your children trying any illegal substance you may have tried b4 the age of 19?
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Chilenita wrote: LAB_ wrote: Sis, I think I can -sort of, anyways, since I don't have any children myself- see where you coming from. But it saddens me to read that you would put alcohol and weed in the same level of mind altering substances. For what I care, they're not even the same ballpark, forget about how different their consequences are. Again, while acknowledging that I know very little about the facts of raising a child, still, would you seriously assume that "there are ways to have a joint so a child won't find out?". The little rascals I know best, both here and in Cuba, would find out in days, if not hours!!
Okay I totally agree with you there it's NOT the same level in terms of mind altering...ALCOHOL is much much worse but I would like to think I won't alter my mind in front of my child in anyway weed or alcohol and yes alcohol is MUCH MUCH worse no doubt..my bad. Now it depends on what age we are talking here....for example....if I go outside for a couple of minutes and smoke a joint and then come back around my 5 year old niece for example there is no way in hell she would ever know I smoked.....if I go outside and smoke and come back and hang out with my 13 year old cousin he would in his head think "OMG Tia Chilenita smokes pot" cuz at that age he would have smelt it somewhere. What I was saying is this...I will NOT smoke pot in front of my kid period so how would they know?? Now when she is 13 for example it's the perfect time for me to talk to her about drugs...sex..etc cuz that is the age most kids get exposed to all that stuff. If I don't want her to know that I do it there are ways around it....everyone in this office knows what pot smells like and I used to walk in here pretty blitzed and nobody would know it. I don't know what the hell I am saying other than I will not smoke a joint in front of my kids....that is so white trash....that is just the way I feel. On the other hand if she told me she smoked at 19 I would be cool with it...still I wouldn't smoke with her. I don't know I don't know I don't know....once I get passed the delivery of the baby I'll move on to other things
point made. I agree. thanks.
i hadn't thought about the "stepping out" option.
just make sure the little brats don't find your stash
Bainaman wrote: I'm interested to know if and or why all you extreme left wing thinkers have a problem with your kids doing drugs at any age really? YOU DO IT!! WHY CAN'T THEY????
As I've said, I don't have any kids. But my guess is that, if/when I have one or more, I wouldn't allow them to do anything for which age of consent is required, until they arrive to said age of consent.
I'm interested to know if and or why all you extreme left wing thinkers have a problem with your kids doing drugs at any age really? YOU DO IT!! WHY CAN'T THEY????
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Sis, I think I can -sort of, anyways, since I don't have any children myself- see where you coming from. But it saddens me to read that you would put alcohol and weed in the same level of mind altering substances. For what I care, they're not even the same ballpark, forget about how different their consequences are. Again, while acknowledging that I know very little about the facts of raising a child, still, would you seriously assume that "there are ways to have a joint so a child won't find out?". The little rascals I know best, both here and in Cuba, would find out in days, if not hours!!
Okay I totally agree with you there it's NOT the same level in terms of mind altering...ALCOHOL is much much worse but I would like to think I won't alter my mind in front of my child in anyway weed or alcohol and yes alcohol is MUCH MUCH worse no doubt..my bad. Now it depends on what age we are talking here....for example....if I go outside for a couple of minutes and smoke a joint and then come back around my 5 year old niece for example there is no way in hell she would ever know I smoked.....if I go outside and smoke and come back and hang out with my 13 year old cousin he would in his head think "OMG Tia Chilenita smokes pot" cuz at that age he would have smelt it somewhere. What I was saying is this...I will NOT smoke pot in front of my kid period so how would they know?? Now when she is 13 for example it's the perfect time for me to talk to her about drugs...sex..etc cuz that is the age most kids get exposed to all that stuff. If I don't want her to know that I do it there are ways around it....everyone in this office knows what pot smells like and I used to walk in here pretty blitzed and nobody would know it. I don't know what the hell I am saying other than I will not smoke a joint in front of my kids....that is so white trash....that is just the way I feel. On the other hand if she told me she smoked at 19 I would be cool with it...still I wouldn't smoke with her. I don't know I don't know I don't know....once I get passed the delivery of the baby I'll move on to other things
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Chilenita wrote: We (mr. and mrs. chilenita) smoke pot! Well not during pregnancy of course but I smoke pot. Not sure how I would handle the situation around my child. I can't say we have discussed that since there are so many other more important things to worry about right now. I am not sure what I would do in terms of teaching my child about it. There are ways of smoking without your child knowing that you smoke. I would never drink and get drunk in front of my child so I don't think I would get high in front of them either. That doesn't mean I won't teach her about it and I won't take an "old school" approach on teaching her about it. I think there are some things you don't share with your children...a joint is one of them....same with getting drunk with or around your kids...there is a line that I will not cross....I am the parent and she is the child....she doesn't need to know every little thing about mommy.
Sis, I think I can -sort of, anyways, since I don't have any children myself- see where you coming from. But it saddens me to read that you would put alcohol and weed in the same level of mind altering substances. For what I care, they're not even the same ballpark, forget about how different their consequences are.
Again, while acknowledging that I know very little about the facts of raising a child, still, would you seriously assume that "there are ways to have a joint so a child won't find out?". The little rascals I know best, both here and in Cuba, would find out in days, if not hours!!
We (mr. and mrs. chilenita) smoke pot! Well not during pregnancy of course but I smoke pot. Not sure how I would handle the situation around my child. I can't say we have discussed that since there are so many other more important things to worry about right now. I am not sure what I would do in terms of teaching my child about it. There are ways of smoking without your child knowing that you smoke. I would never drink and get drunk in front of my child so I don't think I would get high in front of them either. That doesn't mean I won't teach her about it and I won't take an "old school" approach on teaching her about it. I think there are some things you don't share with your children...a joint is one of them....same with getting drunk with or around your kids...there is a line that I will not cross....I am the parent and she is the child....she doesn't need to know every little thing about mommy.
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McOSIRIS wrote: LAB_ wrote: Do you do pot? Got kids or thinking of having kids? Would you rather have them learning about pot from you -since you use it yourself, anyways- instead of from their -probably, misinformed- peers? If you answered "yes" to all of the above, then check out http://www.itsjustaplant.com/ Ok, check it out even if you donīt!! Itīs īnnterstinnī!!!! No...I don't....
Do you do pot? Got kids or thinking of having kids? Would you rather have them learning about pot from you -since you use it yourself, anyways- instead of from their -probably, misinformed- peers? If you answered "yes" to all of the above, then check out http://www.itsjustaplant.com/ Ok, check it out even if you donīt!! Itīs īnnterstinnī!!!!
No...I don't....
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