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here's an interesting read about a juno advertising "mistake".


 


Early congrats ad for Buble Juno a ‘technical error’



A TV commercial boasting that Michael Buble’s song Home had won the Juno for single of the year–before the award had been officially announced–was due to a glitch in the control room, CTV said Tuesday.


“This was a technical error that absolutely and unequivocally lands solely at the feet of CTV,” said spokesperson Mike Cosentino.


“The file server triggered an incorrect commercial.”


The ad, which ran during Sunday’s Juno telecast, claimed that Buble had won two Junos–artist of the year and single of the year–when only one win had been officially announced at that point.


Warner Music Canada says its ad agency prepared a whole series of spots anticipating various possible outcomes for Buble.


It was certainly not a case of Warner having advance access to the Juno results, stressed the label’s spokesperson, Steve Waxman.


“CTV has told our people that someone in traffic there made a mistake,” says Waxman. “They pulled the wrong spot to run at the most inappropriate time.”


Cosentino said the network is expressing an apology to both Warner Music and to the Canadian Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, which runs the Junos.


Buble won four Junos: best pop album, single of the year, artist of the year and album of the year.


Katherine Holmes, spokeswoman for CARAS, stressed that Sunday’s gaffe was simply human error–and not because of leaked results.


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I stand by Kardinall for sure.  He has reason to "whine". I personally think that the Hip Hop genre or Urban genre at that gets the dim part of the spotlight. Urban music has become so mainstream now I don't know why they are still racially judging it. If its the Canadian music execs that are the ones voting, then for sure it's based on the industry's favs to win.
 
@ LatinUrban - "...the Junos are an annual representation of what the Canadian music industry wants the scene to look like and not what actual music fans and consumers prefer." 

I totally agree with you vato on that point! Not to mention their selection for performances. I'm sorry... although he's the best selling R&B (Rhythm & Boos) artist in the country, Massari don't belong doing live performances....at all! After what I heard...it was horrible! I was listening to Z103.5 at work and the whole day they kept playing back that "c'mon now mama we're drinking Don Perignon" song he performed. He was off tone and off beat! They later interviewed him live and asked him how he got lost even though the lead vocal was already on the track he used for his performance!! Massari said that it wasn't his lead vocal but some delay effect the sound guy had on. and that it was the sound guy's fault and that he was singing live and didn't know what went wrong. From what I heard, there was no delay effect.....the delay effect repeats a fixed sample of what is sung on the mic at timed intervals. Meaning it echoes what you sing ON TIME. When I heard the performance on the radio, you could totally hear Massari's live vocal all over the place and the lead pre-recorded vocal where it was supposed to be.


Anyway... maybe from what Kardinall is doing, it might open people's eyes and give the listener more of a voice in these award ceremonies.....


By the way****


If there are any R&B and Hip Hop fans here, on April 29th in Oswego, New York....There will be a concert featuring: Donell Jones, Trey Songz and Ghost Face Killah @ The Suny Oswego Laker Hall. It's part of their Tough Love Tour. The city of Oswego is just about a 30 minute drive from Buffalo and a little more then an hour and a half drive from Toronto. I might go to that concert since they never bring artists like that here. Ticketmaster has tickets @ only $18US each! Not freakin bad at all!!


Here is the ticketmaster link...


http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/00003C748D6EE970?artistid=780752&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=3


 



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I agree with the boycott and what LatinUrban said is quite revealing but really... who is Kardinal Offishall? a crap rapper who has gotten nowhere in the hip hop scene. First he tried to be Busta Rhymes, then he switched to dancehall.. now he's sampling.. no, remaking Arrested Development's Everyday People...

Anyway, that said (cause I hate him), look who televised the Junos, CTV... the 'whitest' broadcaster out there, well them and Global. They play to the broader audience, that is the national audience, to be able to reach not just Toronto but butt-f**k Saskatchewan and good-gawd PEI...

To be able to capture certain advertisers, they have to play safe in what they air to not offende 'whitey'. In any case, the 'urban' scene is big, but not big enough to bring in the advertising dollars.

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I applaud Kardi for taking that stance. Let me shed some light on how the Junos work. The Juno awards are decided by voting members of CARAS (Canadian Academy of recording Arts and Sciences). Any one working in music can join and vote so long as you pay your $53 per year. Sorry, local nightclub promoters are not considered as "working in music". And hence, much like the Grammys, the Junos are an annual representation of what the Canadian music industry wants the scene to look like and not what actual music fans and consumers prefer. NOT BY A LONG SHOT.


So logically, and this is where Kardis reasoning comes into play (I think): If you're in an industry that is 90% white middled-aged man that favour rock and pop music then logically the voting is going to be in favour to artists in those fields. In addition to that, the record label with the most amount of employees (all voting-members of CARAS) has a slight advantage of having the most winners, simply because even if you don't know sh1t about hip-hop your gonna vote for the artist that's under the label you work for. Here's where Kardi's in a disadvantage being on EMI/Virgin the smallest of all major labels and some wack artist like Massari benifits from being affiliated with Universal...the biggest label in Canada (and the world)


It's no secret Canada's music industry is heavily one-sided (racially) wich is why organizations like UMAC have being established to give Urban (mainly black) artists a voice. As for Latino representation at the major level...almost nothing...far as I know, there is only one Latino employed by a major label and another one that's emplyed by an indie label and closely affiliated to a major.



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As with most disagreements, one would present an idea with some supporting evidence.  Do some research, talk with the organizers to determine what criteria is used to determine how the time is allotted on the show.   It could be record sales, it could be popularity, it could be the number of musicians in the genre, etc.  Once that is established then make an argument in favour of the proposition. Now complaining to the press may work in a backhanded way - the organizers may feel obliged to increase exposure time to avoid scandal but that is hardly professional or something to be proud of.

            This is probably done all the time, we just dont know it, since they trying to avoid the scandals...like the entertainers say themselves...the music business is a cutthroat business..i think there are worse ways to get you point accross...Kardi used the media...that would be considered a strategic move...

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As with most disagreements, one would present an idea with some supporting evidence.  Do some research, talk with the organizers to determine what criteria is used to determine how the time is allotted on the show.   It could be record sales, it could be popularity, it could be the number of musicians in the genre, etc.  Once that is established then make an argument in favour of the proposition. Now complaining to the press may work in a backhanded way - the organizers may feel obliged to increase exposure time to avoid scandal but that is hardly professional or something to be proud of.

         YOUR PROBABLY RIGHT BUT I bet ITS alot easier and faster to go to the place where it will catch your eye at once and not have to wait and wonder and oh and aw!! Right im sorry but when Kardinal hits the US market and i know he will!! THen the JUNOS will be like damn we should of exposed him more!!! and there comes the kick in the ASS

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As with most disagreements, one would present an idea with some supporting evidence.  Do some research, talk with the organizers to determine what criteria is used to determine how the time is allotted on the show.   It could be record sales, it could be popularity, it could be the number of musicians in the genre, etc.  Once that is established then make an argument in favour of the proposition.


Now complaining to the press may work in a backhanded way - the organizers may feel obliged to increase exposure time to avoid scandal but that is hardly professional or something to be proud of.



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LaDyBuG wrote: WHAT EXACTLY IS HE UPSET ABOUT? HE PERFORMED, GAVE AWAY AN AWARD.... IS IT BECAUSE A HIP HOP AWARD WAS NOT GIVEN WHILE THE SHOW WAS TELEVISED? OR IS IT BECUASE HE DIDN'T WIN..... IF HE'S RIGHT.....THEN ALL HIP HOP URBAN ACTS SHOULD BACK HIM UP ON THIS DECISION.....TO MAKE THE ORGANIZERS GO HMMMM.....BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY ALL BOYCOTT THE JUNOS, THAT MIGHT BE EXACTLY WHAT THE ORGANIZERS COULD WANT...... WHAT TO DO....WHAT TO DO.....LOL HOW ABOUT STILL SHOWING "FACE" FOR OTHER GENERATIONS OF URBAN MUSIC TO SEE THAT HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE PRESENT.....SO THEY CAN DO THE SAME..... I AGREE WITH HIM! its not about him thowing a hissyfit! Yes he did perform! yes he did present an award (mind you hes on of Torontos biggest Hip hop artist) More or less hes upset that HIP HOP R&B and RAP are not getting the recognition that every other gendre of music is getting! OK really bad analogy coming up but still!! Look at the american music awards they always give merit to the HIp hop to Rap and R&B why cuz of ratings!! now that Cardinal has decided that you know what screw u@!!! guess what im sure more artist will feel the same and before u know it!! the junos will drop in ratings and be kissing someones butt to bring them back up!!!!


        I agree..I dont think Kardinal is being WHINNY after all he has had 6 nominations and only won 1, hes been arround for years now so I think he is credible enough to be able to hate on the Junos because ITS TRUE..


Urban music is not well represented in Canada..its either POP or rock music...and like the article says...Kardi is not the first to boycott the Junos the Rascalz did it too..and they were a really really good Hip Hop group. I think they received more recognition in the US...also see what happened to MAESTRO..he is basically the forefather of Hip HOp in Canada..but I guess he didnt find support in his own country that his career just went down hill. I think Canada should be more supportive of Urban Music just because we are such a multicultural country...i am suprised last year there were a few credible acts..like Divine Brown, Julie Black, okay I guess i can add MASSARI ..but they didnt make such bad music. I never really liked canadian Hip Hop but its getting better I guess...So I think Kardi has all the rite to pout if he wants to...



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WHAT EXACTLY IS HE UPSET ABOUT? HE PERFORMED, GAVE AWAY AN AWARD.... IS IT BECAUSE A HIP HOP AWARD WAS NOT GIVEN WHILE THE SHOW WAS TELEVISED? OR IS IT BECUASE HE DIDN'T WIN..... IF HE'S RIGHT.....THEN ALL HIP HOP URBAN ACTS SHOULD BACK HIM UP ON THIS DECISION.....TO MAKE THE ORGANIZERS GO HMMMM.....BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY ALL BOYCOTT THE JUNOS, THAT MIGHT BE EXACTLY WHAT THE ORGANIZERS COULD WANT...... WHAT TO DO....WHAT TO DO.....LOL HOW ABOUT STILL SHOWING "FACE" FOR OTHER GENERATIONS OF URBAN MUSIC TO SEE THAT HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE PRESENT.....SO THEY CAN DO THE SAME.....


I AGREE WITH HIM! its not about him thowing a hissyfit! Yes he did perform! yes he did present an award (mind you hes on of Torontos biggest Hip hop artist) More or less hes upset that HIP HOP R&B and RAP are not getting the recognition that every other gendre of music is getting! OK really bad analogy coming up but still!!


Look at the american music awards they always give merit to the HIp hop to Rap and R&B why cuz of ratings!! now that Cardinal has decided that you know what screw u@!!! guess what im sure more artist will feel the same and before u know it!! the junos will drop in ratings and be kissing someones butt to bring them back up!!!!



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What a joke.  Who does he think he is?
There are better ways to get his point across and whining isn't one of them.




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What a joke.  Who does he think he is?


There are better ways to get his point across and whining isn't one of them.



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@ JADE


CLICK ON HERE AND CHECK OUT THE NOMINEES FOR 2006


http://www.junoawards.ca/PDF/06_nom2006.pdf


ON THE WEBSITE YOU WILL ALSO SEE THE WINNERS


WWW.JUNOAWARDS.CA


 


IF BY LATIN MUSIC YOU MEAN TROPICAL, LATIN ROCK/POP...ETC....NO, THERE IS NO AWARD FOR THAT....BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE FOR "WORLD MUSIC".....


AT LEAST ONE LOCAL ARTIST WON A JUNO AND HE'S CUBAN!


(ALEXIS PUENTES - ALEX CUBA BAND)


HE REALLY DESERVED IT....YOU HAVE TO HEAR THE ALBUM!!!



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LaDyBuG wrote:


WHAT EXACTLY IS HE UPSET ABOUT? HE PERFORMED, GAVE AWAY AN AWARD.... IS IT BECAUSE A HIP HOP AWARD WAS NOT GIVEN WHILE THE SHOW WAS TELEVISED? OR IS IT BECUASE HE DIDN'T WIN..... IF HE'S RIGHT.....THEN ALL HIP HOP URBAN ACTS SHOULD BACK HIM UP ON THIS DECISION.....TO MAKE THE ORGANIZERS GO HMMMM.....BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY ALL BOYCOTT THE JUNOS, THAT MIGHT BE EXACTLY WHAT THE ORGANIZERS COULD WANT...... WHAT TO DO....WHAT TO DO.....LOL HOW ABOUT STILL SHOWING "FACE" FOR OTHER GENERATIONS OF URBAN MUSIC TO SEE THAT HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE PRESENT.....SO THEY CAN DO THE SAME.....


       Do the Junos...present latin music too? do they give awards for that at all??? I thought i seen something for latin jazz but nothing on latin music? I dunno much about the Junos buttt i know Canadia..is not a urban country for sure! Mayority of Canadia supports the ALTERNATIVE/ROCK PUNK rock scene....


 



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WHAT EXACTLY IS HE UPSET ABOUT?


HE PERFORMED, GAVE AWAY AN AWARD....


IS IT BECAUSE A HIP HOP AWARD WAS NOT GIVEN WHILE THE SHOW WAS TELEVISED?


OR IS IT BECUASE HE DIDN'T WIN.....


IF HE'S RIGHT.....THEN ALL HIP HOP URBAN ACTS SHOULD BACK HIM UP ON THIS DECISION.....TO MAKE THE ORGANIZERS GO HMMMM.....BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THEY ALL BOYCOTT THE JUNOS, THAT MIGHT BE EXACTLY WHAT THE ORGANIZERS COULD WANT......


WHAT TO DO....WHAT TO DO.....LOL


HOW ABOUT STILL SHOWING "FACE" FOR OTHER GENERATIONS OF URBAN MUSIC TO SEE THAT HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE PRESENT.....SO THEY CAN DO THE SAME.....



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Kardinal Offishall To Boycott Future Junos

03/04/2006 7:00:00 PM 



(ChartAttack) Kardinal Offishall says that neither he, nor hip-hop, get enough respect from the Junos. So he's done with them.


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Kardinal Offishall

Kardinal Offishall is considered by many to be Canada's official hip-hop ambassador, but his diplomatic tenure at the Juno Awards has officially come to an end.


The rapper says he's never going to attend a Juno Awards show ever again.


"I'm not going to be the Juno's monkey no more," he said from the red carpet of Sunday evening's Juno Awards broadcast. "I'm not coming back any more."


Offishall, who has one win for the six Juno nominations he's garnered since 1997, cites Canadian hip-hop's low profile at this year's awards as the catalyst for his decision.


"Really, to me it's really atrocious what they do to hip-hop in this country and what they do for the artists," he said. "And it's one of those things, I just feel like the token hip-hop artist from Canada."


This isn't the first time a Canuck hip-hopper has had issue with the Junos. Back in 1998, Vancouver group the Rascalz refused to accept their best rap recording award because they felt that the genre had been marginalized and kept off the televised portion of the awards show due to racism.


This year, although dance act Massari, R&B songstress Divine Brown and American hip-hoppers Black Eyed Peas all had performing slots during the show, no urban music awards were actually presented in front of a TV audience.


"For urban music in this country, I mean, not only was hip-hop not televised, but also reggae and R&B," said Offishall. "To me, it's sickening — and then they have the nerve to bring in a hip-hop act [Black Eyed Peas] from outside the country. I just had enough.


"The Black Eyed Peas are huge and if I was getting paid as much by the Junos as they were getting paid, I'd be here too," he said. "It has nothing to do with the Black Eyed Peas."


Offishall had performed to a music industry audience during the Saturday evening non-televised Juno Awards gala ceremony and also teamed with Sophia Milman to present the artist of the year award to Michael Buble on the TV show.


"They had me perform last night and give away the award — to me it's all a farce," he said. "I really can't put up with it anymore.


"It's not even that it's embarrassing, it's just disappointing. It doesn't matter what you do in this country, for me anyway, they don't recognize what I do.


"It's just a bunch of garbage so I won't be a part of it anymore."...


I agree...



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