OPRAH CATCHES A LIAR!!!

CrazyBeautiful · Guru

RE: OPRAH CATCHES A LIAR!!!

Lahtina · Foro Master

CrazyBeautiful wrote:

how did they find out it was all a lie?

They noticed an alarming increase in the size of his nose.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

CrazyBeautiful wrote:

how did they find out it was all a lie?

it was www.thesmokinggun.com that discovered that the author was lying.

CrazyBeautiful · Guru

how did they find out it was all a lie?

LaDyBuG · Comandante

Bainaman wrote:

Lahtina wrote: Poor Mark, indeed! Pobresito! Hey.......At least you make up for it with your "talents"....

YOU MEAN THE "STRIPERELLA" THINGAMAGIC.....LOL

Jinx · TOP Guru

I read the book, It was very well written but I can't believe it was all a lie

Bainaman · Foro Master

Lahtina wrote:

Poor Mark, indeed!

Pobresito!

Hey.......At least you make up for it with your "talents"....

Lahtina · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

Lahtina wrote: Guadalupana wrote: CrazyBeautiful wrote: im gonna read the book...wat is it about exactly? READ the BOOK. or go to www.indigo.ca. Anyway, just cuz the book turned out to be fiction it doesn't mean people won't read it. And it doesn't make the book a bad book. If say the pope told you the bible is all fiction, sure you'd be heartbroken shocked even, but lots would still read it. Because it'd be considered well written and a good story or no? I read that he first tried to sell the book as a novel. If he wasn't able to do it, that should answer your question. Are you still trying to prove you point??? LOL

Be quiet! LOL I love arguing to the bitter end. You should know that by now.

I'm the energizer bunny of arguments. Poor Mark, indeed!

Lahtina · Foro Master

CrazyBeautiful wrote:

well the book must have been good if he was on the oprah show to talk about it..

The thing about Oprah is that she's built an empire based on self-help and self-sufficiency. Frey's book is about recovery from drug addiction. There was/is an underlying message of redemption in the book. As you can see, this is exactly what Oprah is all about and the fact that she mentioned the book, recommended it and put her Oprah's book club logo on it made Frey a huge bestseller.

There being so little truth there in the book, sadly, takes away the power of the message as well.

Bainaman · Foro Master

Lahtina wrote:

Guadalupana wrote:
CrazyBeautiful wrote: im gonna read the book...wat is it about exactly? READ the BOOK. or go to www.indigo.ca. Anyway, just cuz the book turned out to be fiction it doesn't mean people won't read it. And it doesn't make the book a bad book. If say the pope told you the bible is all fiction, sure you'd be heartbroken shocked even, but lots would still read it. Because it'd be considered well written and a good story or no?
I read that he first tried to sell the book as a novel. If he wasn't able to do it, that should answer your question.

Are you still trying to prove you point???

LOL

CrazyBeautiful · Guru

well the book must have been good if he was on the oprah show to talk about it..

Lahtina · Foro Master

Guadalupana wrote:

CrazyBeautiful wrote: im gonna read the book...wat is it about exactly? READ the BOOK. or go to www.indigo.ca. Anyway, just cuz the book turned out to be fiction it doesn't mean people won't read it. And it doesn't make the book a bad book. If say the pope told you the bible is all fiction, sure you'd be heartbroken shocked even, but lots would still read it. Because it'd be considered well written and a good story or no?

I read that he first tried to sell the book as a novel. If he wasn't able to do it, that should answer your question.

Guadalupana · Foro Master

CrazyBeautiful wrote:

im gonna read the book...wat is it about exactly?

READ the BOOK. or go to www.indigo.ca.

Anyway, just cuz the book turned out to be fiction it doesn't mean people won't read it. And it doesn't make the book a bad book.

If say the pope told you the bible is all fiction, sure you'd be heartbroken shocked even, but lots would still read it.
Because it'd be considered well written and a good story or no?

God · Foro Master

Between Oprah Catching Liars and George Bush catching terrorist I feel safer.

CrazyBeautiful · Guru

im gonna read the book...wat is it about exactly?

Sweetness · Guru

I didn't see Oprah, but I have seen a few shows that have talked about this guy. This guy is a con, and has been in jail numerous of times before for scaming people out of their money. Almost everything in that book is a lie. He also got caught on some show...I think it was inside edition. Even when he got caught he tried to lie his way out of it. I heard that some people knew that the book was made up of pure lies before it was even published, but they couldn't stop it from being published, because he has the right to say what he wants to say whether if it is spoken out loud or written in a book. Freedom of speach.

Lahtina · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

Lahtina wrote: Didn't I just explain before why it can't be considered well written anymore? Entiendes que ahora es uno más del montón. His fiction could never stand up against the fiction of Shakespeare, Goethe, Dante, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Hugo, Boccaccio, Ibsen, Cervantes, etc. There are just too many great fiction writers who have set the bar very high for any other contemporary writer. So is the book not a good read now???? If the book was good then...is it not good now? I'M KIDDING!!!!! I get it.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Ok, good, cuz I was gonna pound yo' @ss.

Bainaman · Foro Master

Lahtina wrote:

Didn't I just explain before why it can't be considered well written anymore? Entiendes que ahora es uno más del montón. His fiction could never stand up against the fiction of Shakespeare, Goethe, Dante, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Hugo, Boccaccio, Ibsen, Cervantes, etc. There are just too many great fiction writers who have set the bar very high for any other contemporary writer.

So is the book not a good read now???? If the book was good then...is it not good now?

I'M KIDDING!!!!!

I get it.

Lahtina · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

Lahtina wrote: I think the book does lose a lot if its value if it isn't real. It does go from being well written non-fiction to mediocre fiction because you have the works of all these literature giants to compare it against. Of course she's not going to recommend it now. Who would? I don't think this is going to do him much good. It might bump up his sales because curiosity killed the cat but the discredit is going to cost him a lot. Anyone remember Stephen Glass? The reporter for the New Republic? He was considered an brilliant journalist until it was discovered that he commited journalist fraud. I recently saw a novel of his in Chapters - The Fabulist, based on his story, it was in the bargain section for 2 bucks. It wouldn't even sell at that price. So phooey on Frey! So is the book not a good read now???? If the book was good then...is it not good now? I know what you're saying........It loses it's credibility......but didn't everyone agree the book was well written? Stephen Glass was the guy who plagiarized his stories???

Didn't I just explain before why it can't be considered well written anymore? Entiendes que ahora es uno más del montón. His fiction could never stand up against the fiction of Shakespeare, Goethe, Dante, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Hugo, Boccaccio, Ibsen, Cervantes, etc. There are just too many great fiction writers who have set the bar very high for any other contemporary writer.

Bainaman · Foro Master

I just read an article in The Globe and Mail......and there are two men who attended a rehab centre with James Frey.......They say that the overall descriptions of the book are true....but they can't corroborate many of the specifics.

Bainaman · Foro Master

Lahtina wrote:

I think the book does lose a lot if its value if it isn't real. It does go from being well written non-fiction to mediocre fiction because you have the works of all these literature giants to compare it against. Of course she's not going to recommend it now. Who would?
I don't think this is going to do him much good. It might bump up his sales because curiosity killed the cat but the discredit is going to cost him a lot. Anyone remember Stephen Glass? The reporter for the New Republic? He was considered an brilliant journalist until it was discovered that he commited journalist fraud. I recently saw a novel of his in Chapters - The Fabulist, based on his story, it was in the bargain section for 2 bucks. It wouldn't even sell at that price. So phooey on Frey!

So is the book not a good read now???? If the book was good then...is it not good now?

I know what you're saying........It loses it's credibility......but didn't everyone agree the book was well written?

Stephen Glass was the guy who plagiarized his stories???

Lahtina · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

I guess she's pissed off more because she actually recommended the book.........So the book went from being a "true" story....to being fiction.......... If the book is really that good......would she not recommend it still??? Is she gonna tell people NOT to read it now???

I think the book does lose a lot if its value if it isn't real. It does go from being well written non-fiction to mediocre fiction because you have the works of all these literature giants to compare it against. Of course she's not going to recommend it now. Who would?

I don't think this is going to do him much good. It might bump up his sales because curiosity killed the cat but the discredit is going to cost him a lot. Anyone remember Stephen Glass? The reporter for the New Republic? He was considered an brilliant journalist until it was discovered that he commited journalist fraud. I recently saw a novel of his in Chapters - The Fabulist, based on his story, it was in the bargain section for 2 bucks. It wouldn't even sell at that price. So phooey on Frey!

Bainaman · Foro Master

I guess she's pissed off more because she actually recommended the book.........So the book went from being a "true" story....to being fiction..........

If the book is really that good......would she not recommend it still???

Is she gonna tell people NOT to read it now???

Luna Chiquitita · Guru

Oprah's questions to James Frey, the Publisher and the opinions of journalists, can be read here.

http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200601/20060126/slide_20060126_350_102.jhtml

Dude lied yes.. but I do not understand why it is such a big deal. Either way its a a good book, either way he's owned up to lying and either way, he is going to make millions from this controversy. The only thing that they have REALLY learned is that publishers need to start putting disclaimers on their books and that Oprah's producers need to investigate the books she chooses for her Book Club.

I haven't read the book (I'm in line to) but I've flipped through it and it does look rather interesting. It doesn't read like a normal book -- there is not alot of narration but its mainly dialogue... either with people or with himself.

Jade · Guru

LaDyBuG wrote:

BUTT FOR JADE AND PEOPLE WHO CARE....

Thanks LB!

I ll post my post in your thread..lol i dunno does that make sense..lol

I personally havent read his book, sure he fibbed a bit..but I mean he wrote his own book its not like he got it from someone else and passed it as his...

As for Oprah...she kinda had the right to be pissed as she stands for all the is truth...I guess she shouldnt have advertised his book in the book club...

by the way is BUTT WITH DOTS OR WITHOUT ?? B.U.T.T OR BUTT...

-- Edited by Jade at 10:28, 2006-01-27

GENIE · Foro Master

LaDyBuG wrote:

DID ANYONE WATCH OPRAH YESTERDAY..... IT WAS SO INTERESTING, ALL NIGHT, EVERY NEWS STATION HAD TO TALK ABOUT IT..... SHE INTERVIEWED "JAMES FREY"...THE AUTHOR OF "A MILLION LITTLE PIECES".....A BOOK THAT SHE HAD HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO HER READERS AND BASICALLY ALL OF AMERICA, SINCE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS WELL WRITTEN FOR A "TRUE" STORY...... COME TO REALIZE (NOT SURE HOW OR WHEN).....THAT MANY OF THE POINTS WERE PURE LIES.....AND FREY'S PUBLISHER JUST WENT AHEAD WITH THE PUBLICATION..... OPRAH, FEELING ALL STUPID AND EMBARRASED FOR RECOMMENDING WHAT SHE THOUGHT WERE JAMES' "MEMOIRS" APOLOGIZED TO EVERYONE ON HER SHOW AND CAUGHT THIS GUY ON EACH AND EVERY LIE.....THAT WAS FUNNY!!! SHE MADE HIM LOOK SO STUPID! 1. WOULD YOU HAVE CONFRONTED THE AUTHOR AS WELL FOR PUBLISHING A BOOK OF LIES INSTEAD OF MEMOIRS....OR JUST ENJOY THE BOOK....(WHICH BY THE WAY SHE SAID IT'S FASCINATING AND VERY WELL WRITTEN) 2. IF YOU WERE IN OPRAH'S SHOES WOULD YOU HAVE NATIONALLY MADE AN APOLOGY? (KINDA GOES HAND IN HAND WITH #1) 3. DON'T YOU THINK THAT THIS WILL CAUSE MORE PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND BUY THE BOOK EVEN LARRY KING WAS SAYING HOW OPRAH DID THE SMART THING, AND THAT THE PUBLISHER SHOULD HAVE JUST PUBLISHED THE BOOK AS "FICTION"....AND THAT IT IS SUCH AS WELL WRITTEN BOOK, ONE OF THE BEST OF ITS TIME....THE GUY CAN DEFINATELY WRITE! HAS ANYONE READ IT??

I DIDNT WATCH OPRAH BUT I DID WATCH INSIDE EDITION AND THEY SAID IT WAS THE SMOKING GUN THAT DID THE INVESTIGATING AND FOUND OUT ALL LIES! THEY DID SHOW CLIPS OF THE SHOW AND SHE WAS VERY UPSET BUT HANDELED IT VERY WELL! I THINK THAT THE PUBLISHER SHOULD OF DONE MORE INVESTIGATING HIM SELF AND I ACTUALLY WANTED TO READ THIS BOOK BUT NOW NEVER MIND!

Quixote · Guru

It was obvious that this controversy bothered Oprah and one cannot blame her. She encourages reading to her fans and when she personally holds a book in high regard her influence is far reaching.

It would be interesting to see what happens to this author and their publisher. One would imagine that their re****tion will be he held in high scrutiny but sometimes these things have the opposite effect.

As a side note, it was www.thesmokinggun.com that discovered that the author was lying. This incident reward them with positive publicity and more attention.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

BUTT FOR JADE

AND PEOPLE WHO CARE....

LaDyBuG · Comandante

DID ANYONE WATCH OPRAH YESTERDAY.....

IT WAS SO INTERESTING, ALL NIGHT, EVERY NEWS STATION HAD TO TALK ABOUT IT.....

SHE INTERVIEWED "JAMES FREY"...THE AUTHOR OF "A MILLION LITTLE PIECES".....A BOOK THAT SHE HAD HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO HER READERS AND BASICALLY ALL OF AMERICA, SINCE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS WELL WRITTEN FOR A "TRUE" STORY......

COME TO REALIZE (NOT SURE HOW OR WHEN).....THAT MANY OF THE POINTS WERE PURE LIES.....AND FREY'S PUBLISHER JUST WENT AHEAD WITH THE PUBLICATION.....

OPRAH, FEELING ALL STUPID AND EMBARRASED FOR RECOMMENDING WHAT SHE THOUGHT WERE JAMES' "MEMOIRS" APOLOGIZED TO EVERYONE ON HER SHOW AND CAUGHT THIS GUY ON EACH AND EVERY LIE.....THAT WAS FUNNY!!! SHE MADE HIM LOOK SO STUPID!

1. WOULD YOU HAVE CONFRONTED THE AUTHOR AS WELL FOR PUBLISHING A BOOK OF LIES INSTEAD OF MEMOIRS....OR JUST ENJOY THE BOOK....(WHICH BY THE WAY SHE SAID IT'S FASCINATING AND VERY WELL WRITTEN)

2. IF YOU WERE IN OPRAH'S SHOES WOULD YOU HAVE NATIONALLY MADE AN APOLOGY? (KINDA GOES HAND IN HAND WITH #1)

3. DON'T YOU THINK THAT THIS WILL CAUSE MORE PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND BUY THE BOOK

EVEN LARRY KING WAS SAYING HOW OPRAH DID THE SMART THING, AND THAT THE PUBLISHER SHOULD HAVE JUST PUBLISHED THE BOOK AS "FICTION"....AND THAT IT IS SUCH AS WELL WRITTEN BOOK, ONE OF THE BEST OF ITS TIME....THE GUY CAN DEFINATELY WRITE!

HAS ANYONE READ IT??