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Honestly what I have noticed is a big problem between latin countries or latinos that live here is not the fact that so and so country fought with one another or whatever.  What I have noticed is that many lations try to deny their native roots, and insult those who embrace it.  So in other words racism.  I know a few people who try and tell me how "oh I don't have any Indio blood in me", and I'm like really so tell me why you have a flat forhead, or the back of your head has a flat look to it?...lol right there those are some characteristics of the indigenous people.  I think that this is a big problem, because those who claim not to have any mayan, aztec, or Incan blood think that in some way they are better then those who do have that in them, which in my books is not the case.  I think that people with this sort of mentality are the ones who have helped in holding our community behind, and have helped in destroying it aswell.  This is sad, but the reality of things. 

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I grew up believing that Peruvians and Ecuadorians don't get along (i'm ecuadorian) and: I've heard of Perucho and Perucha as 'insult' words but I can't utter those words myself - sounds disgusting! But honestly, I've had bad experiences with individuals who I had gotten really close to and just so happen to be Peruvians.............. The nationality rivalry is just a social problem that should be ignored. Happy are those that treat the next person with respect. But i can't get over being hurt by these peruvian individuals



I have always goten along fine with peruvians..its only in soccer macthes between us , when we ter each others throats off


 



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I grew up believing that Peruvians and Ecuadorians don't get along (i'm ecuadorian)

and: I've heard of Perucho and Perucha as 'insult' words but I can't utter those words myself - sounds disgusting!

But honestly, I've had bad experiences with individuals who I had gotten really close to and just so happen to be Peruvians..............

The nationality rivalry is just a social problem that should be ignored. Happy are those that treat the next person with respect.

But i can't get over being hurt by these peruvian individuals

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I've been in Canada for more than 16 years, and I've learned not to assume that people from any latin american country are or behave the same way.  Sometimes people who have been here for several years see newcomers down, they probably forget when they came.


 But overall, I try not to judge someone I have never talked to cause I've been surprised how nice people can be,especially once they get to know the other person. I've met several argentines who don't fall into the stereotypical images of some movies of the past.  The same applies to uruguayans, and chileans.  I'm sure there are assh7les too, but assh7les live in every country aswell.


 I since it is dangerous to generalize and criticize the whole community of any country, I remember the argentinian kid who passed away and wonder if he felt bad because other latinos disliked him just for being argentine, I think we all have to be very carefull and try not to show disaproval to others just because they are from a determined country.


BEsides I've been treated very well by an argentinian lady a knew several years ago.



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@ Daeveed and Chlenita Holy Shit!!!!! look what I found!!! I knew there was a whole underground conspiracy!!!!!! http://www.gratisweb.com/chilechistes/lomejor.html

 YYOOOOO Y YO QUE PENSABA QUE TE IBAS A ENOJAR CON MIS CHISTES ......... THATS EVEN WORST !!!!!!!!!!WAS UP WITH THAT

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i m 21 , almost 22 .. i lived en peru for 15 years , but i got there everyyear at least 3 times a year

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@ Daeveed and Chlenita Holy Shit!!!!! look what I found!!! I knew there was a whole underground conspiracy!!!!!! http://www.gratisweb.com/chilechistes/lomejor.html


Holy hate batman!!!!


 


 



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That's rude man!!!


 


 


 


(but funny)


 


Are there Chileno jokes??



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@ Daeveed and Chlenita


Holy Shit!!!!! look what I found!!!


I knew there was a whole underground conspiracy!!!!!!


http://www.gratisweb.com/chilechistes/lomejor.html



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Chilenita wrote:


 Stop tryinnnn to get atension from da spell cop!!!!   WOO HOO CHILE!!!!  What a great Idea!!


If he ever even whispers at me, I'll D.A.R.T. his a$$ from here to eternity.



 



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That would be the 'most perfectest' country in the world!!!!  


Stop tryinnnn to get atension from da spell cop!!!!


 


WOO HOO CHILE!!!!  What a great Idea!!



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That would be the 'most perfectest' country in the world!!!!


 




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OMG man, you just read my mind!!!!


 


wouldn't that be a utopian country????



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I totally agree with you....we should be one huge country....from Mexico to the Antartica....and to avoid any fights and disagreements I would call it.... CHILE......


OMG man, you just read my mind!!!!



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man latino r never goin to get together not cuz of this , cuz we r from different contries , unless we all became one huge country ...


I totally agree with you....we should be one huge country....from Mexico to the Antartica....and to avoid any fights and disagreements I would call it....


CHILE......



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man latino r never goin to get together not cuz of this , cuz we r from different contries , unless we all became one huge country ...

rick, how much of your life have you spent in southamerica???

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ahhh well...I just got beef with those peruvians who stold are land :p:biggrin:



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man latino r never goin to get together not cuz of this , cuz we r from different contries , unless we all became one huge country ...

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Dogo wrote: Danny416 wrote: and its eCuador!!!!!!! please lol this is the very reason why latinos will never ever unite   Because we spell "Ecuador" with a "Q"  LOL! no lol cuz of the whole not getting along with other latinos crap and about people spelling ecaudor with a Q instead of a C.. they deserve some grammatical lessons Not even in an english atlas you will see Ecuador with a Q , The Equator is refered to that little line thats sets the boundary between the northern and southern hemispheres! So get ur facts straight people and dont miss with this ECUAAAAAA!!J/KS


Yeeeeah! For the last time, it's MeXico, not Méjico, people!



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Danny416 wrote: and its eCuador!!!!!!! please lol this is the very reason why latinos will never ever unite   Because we spell "Ecuador" with a "Q"  LOL!



no lol cuz of the whole not getting along with other latinos crap


and about people spelling ecaudor with a Q instead of a C.. they deserve some grammatical lessons Not even in an english atlas you will see Ecuador with a Q , The Equator is refered to that little line thats sets the boundary between the northern and southern hemispheres!


So get ur facts straight people and dont mess with this ECUAAAAAA!!J/KS



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Dogo wrote:


Danny416 wrote: and its eCuador!!!!!!! please lol this is the very reason why latinos will never ever unite   Because we spell "Ecuador" with a "Q"  LOL!


Because of that and because we don't like posting pics!



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and its eCuador!!!!!!! please lol


this is the very reason why latinos will never ever unite  






Because we spell "Ecuador" with a "Q"  LOL!



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and this is the very reason why latinos will never ever unite


 



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Well Rick you freaked out on someone from Equador the othe day so I am going to go with Peru and Equador

its eCuador!!!!!!! please lol

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Dogo wrote: I see where this thread is going we hate you, you inka cola hating snob!!!!


Whatever dude!!!!! If it wasn't for Inca Cola I might actually like "you guys"!!!!! LOL!



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Chilenita wrote:okay so I'll never refer to you as Baina ever again as long as I live!!  It's animal from this day forward. No I dont hate you.  You are far too pretty to hate Does Panama have a rival?  They must!!!  I would say right now it's Puerto Rico cuz of the whole reggaeton thing....hee hee...just kiddint tell me who the rivall is   I don't know who our rival is.......I guess it's Colombia.........But we don't pay attention to them anyways......soo..........I guess you'd be right in saying Puerto Rico with the whole reggaeton thing....but again.....we don't pay attention to them anyways 'cause Panamanians usually don't sing reggaeton....sooo....... We don't really hate anyone.......Everyone hates us for being soo cool!!!  

I know why.  Shall I break out the history books??  Just kidding, actually I dont think I've ever heard Colombians bad mouth Panama.  I dont think Colombians really dislike anyone, except La Guerrilla, but as for countries, I dont think so.  But I know that lots of Venezolanos dont like Colombians.  I also heard taht there is a little riff between Nicaragua and El Salvador.  I'm not hating, im just going by what i heard.

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It's unfortunate that in our countries there is alot of racism, but this is because people are afraid of what they do not know or understand.  This is sad, but racism is something that has been around for ever, and will be here for ever no matter what we do, because some people are just so ignorant that they can't see the good in something that they do not understand, but I also feel that it's our duty to educate those who are like this, and let them know that one shouldn't judge another, because of the colour of their skin, but instead judge one based on their actions and the way they carry themselves.  By just ignoring them and pretending like it's not there is also not going to help the situation.  To me racist's are those who lack self confidence, and feel that by picking on others will somehow make them feel better about who they are, and where they come from.  Seriously people if you look at history in the end we all come from the same place, because at one point in time we were...well our ancestors were all black.  Don't believe me find out for yourself.  The sad thing is that it only takes one person to poison the rest of the world, so this is why we should move and numbers and find a way to solve this problem, because if we don't it will only get worse.

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oh yea i m not racist at all , mis amigos chilenos y peruano drink together and play soccer together .. actually i find that in canada los peruanos se llevan mejor con los chilenos y colombianos..


    oh yea i m not racist at all :  sure... I know..


  mis amigos chilenos y peruano drink together and play soccer together : Great..!!



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oh yea i m not racist at all , mis amigos chilenos y peruano drink together and play soccer together .. actually i find that in canada los peruanos se llevan mejor con los chilenos y colombianos..

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yea thats true , not everyone is racist .... and we r all living in canada and we don t see this much here , however i was referin more to the way this is seen in our countries , not exactly in canada cuz people here learn to convivir con otros... for example en mi pais peru there is alot of people that hate chilenos , because they come to peru to take over , they own the big companies and they take advantage of peruvians , aside from other things that they do tha make peruvians dont like them, same go in chile ,  chilenos dont like peruvians because there r many peruvians that go to chile to steal , or to take jobs which leave chilenos sin trabajo ... and i m not making this up because two of my closest friends are from chile and they go there every year and they told me how it is , and i also go to peru everyyear and i know how it is down there.. i also get at least 2 emails a day from peruvian people sayin that we should hate chilenos .. i know in canada this doesnt happen but i was refering como son las cosas alla en nuestros paises


        exacto.!! ves.. Chilenos y Peruanos (como dijiste) no se llevan muy bien.. si embargo, tienes amigos Chilenos.. y no los odias por eso,...son tus amigos y los quieres como tal...


en Argentina sucede también que vienen de todos los paises que te imagines para tener trabajo, y si ellos lo hacen bien, no está mal..



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yea thats true , not everyone is racist .... and we r all living in canada and we don t see this much here , however i was referin more to the way this is seen in our countries , not exactly in canada cuz people here learn to convivir con otros... for example en mi pais peru there is alot of people that hate chilenos , because they come to peru to take over , they own the big companies and they take advantage of peruvians , aside from other things that they do tha make peruvians dont like them, same go in chile ,  chilenos dont like peruvians because there r many peruvians that go to chile to steal , or to take jobs which leave chilenos sin trabajo ... and i m not making this up because two of my closest friends are from chile and they go there every year and they told me how it is , and i also go to peru everyyear and i know how it is down there.. i also get at least 2 emails a day from peruvian people sayin that we should hate chilenos .. i know in canada this doesnt happen but i was refering como son las cosas alla en nuestros paises



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 Rick..!!! soy argentina y es verdad ese rumor de que los argentinos somos racistas..y seguramente habrá muchos argentinos que lo sean... como asi también los hay en cada uno de los demás países..  No creo que sea por un "accidente geografico", muchas veces pasa por "dejarse llevar" por un rumor (el que justamente no indica veracidad), y se olvidan de conocer, disfrutar, preguntar, sentir.. a las personas.. Vivo en una zona de la capital de Buenos Aires en la que a dos calles hay una comunidad Boliviana (de hecho las calles llevan el nombre de Sucre y La Paz) y me parecen personas trabajadoras como cualquiera de mi familia.. por otras calles hay una comunidad Japonesa y Coreana.. y en otras zonas de la capital se encuentran las comunidades Judias, Arabes, Dominicanas, Armenias y pufff muchas mas..y yo tengo amigos de muchas nacionalidades!!    ...será que somos racistas como dicen los rumores?????    


Rick.. si algún día te cruzas con algun argentino racista, pensá que es hombre (humano) y que dio la casualidad que nacer en Argentina.. solo, miralo y si puedes, con buen modo, preguntale si acaso él no es igual al que criticó..    y juntos vayan a comer un rico asado y a disfrutar de unos mates..    "el que esté libre de pecado que tire la primera piedra"


                      el racismo está solo en quién quiere hacerlo..


     que tengas un super dia Rick..!!! 


         


 



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Dogo wrote: My closest friends are chileno, (that’s why I say “culiao” so much! Lol! … seriously!!) hahahahahhahaha!!! el culiao divertio!!!!


Fack!! I know man!! LOL! I’m serious though…. It started as a tease to our chileno buddie, but know I can’t friggin shake it, every other word is: “culiao” especially if I’m around that particular group of friends!!



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Que de los Argentinos? lol yes the majority of argentinos are racistas and that's the reality. but there are a few nice ones here and there... ME!!!! & dogo, confu, shei, mara_candela, marce.....and that's it jajaja JK


WE KNOW ...WE KNOW HEY I`M JUST JOKING WHEN I MAKE THE COMMEMTS I MAKE SO I HOPE U GUYS DON`T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY .......


BUT YEA US SALVADOREÑOS DON`T LIKE HONDUREÑOS ............ALL BECAUSE OF A SOCCER GAME


I PUT THAT SSH#@ ALL BEHIND CAUSE LOOK I EVEN TALK TO WHATS HIS NAME ..............


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


WHATS THAT GUY`S NAME ................FACK ...GITANA WHAT`S HIS NAME .........


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


OOOH  YES  CALICHE SEE I`M COOL WITH HIM Y ESE SEROTE IS FROM HONDURAS



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My closest friends are chileno, (that’s why I say “culiao” so much! Lol! … seriously!!)

hahahahahhahaha!!! el culiao divertio!!!!

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Dogo wrote: I see where this thread is going I like Argentinos DOGO  


I know you do!! Lol!


Funny thing is, I’m not even offended by the comments, which is weird, I should be, no? maybe it’s because I’d like to think that I’m not like “that” and that I try to judge people on a one on one basis and would like to be judged on the same basis. I’d also like to think that I’m the farthest thing from being conceited, I mean… I PLAY at it sometimes (you know, the huge penis lol! Etc) but if anything I’m always accused of being too down to earth, timid, etc…. but I’ll admit that I can see where it comes from, and how a narrow mind can perceive it


Anyway, another funny thing is that I only found out who I was supposed to hate when I moved to Canada and encountered so many other nationalities. Apparently I’m supposed to hate and be hated, mostly, by chilenos and uruguayos… oh! And mendocinos… huh? I had no idea!!!! My closest friends are chileno, (that’s why I say “culiao” so much! Lol! … seriously!!) uruguayo, peruano…   So statements like these, even though I can see where they come from, I just really don’t pay much attention to.



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thanks fea i made my point majority of argentinas are racist but there is a lot of nice argentinas .. finally someone that see reality .. damn lol


If the majority are racist then there are not a lot of nice ones.....there would only be a small amount of nice ones.


 



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thanks fea i made my point majority of argentinas are racist but there is a lot of nice argentinas .. finally someone that see reality .. damn lol



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When I lived a in Barcelona,I was sorry to see how low of an opinion the Spainish have of us South Americans. Because I could move about almost"spy-like" (As I said I don't look latino) I was able to hear some very bad remarks about south americans. I guess there seems to be a pecking order of some sort with the Spanish considering themselves at the top.


Actually Neruda when Rick was going on about Argentinos I rememberd hearing that "rumor" much more about the Spanish than any other country.  I don't know enough of them to give an opinion but I hear that more often then anything else.


 


@Fea..oh yeah it just so happens all the Argentinos on this site are sweet....I guess you guys are the only ones



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When I lived a in Barcelona,I was sorry to see how low of an opinion the Spainish have of us South Americans. Because I could move about almost"spy-like" (As I said I don't look latino) I was able to hear some very bad remarks about south americans.


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Que de los Argentinos? lol

yes the majority of argentinos are racistas and that's the reality. but there are a few nice ones here and there...

ME!!!! & dogo, confu, shei, mara_candela, marce.....and that's it jajaja JK

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make it johny walker red! cheap but good, lol

I'll get one for myself too then. lol

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i'll come by dude, i've been there before and i live around there.

Cool man, I'll get you a cheap Scotch!!




make it johny walker red! cheap but good, lol

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i'll come by dude, i've been there before and i live around there.


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Chilenita wrote: ahahahaha Miguel they met you hey i listen to spanish music sometimes, LOL


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!!


@RICK you said "Argentinos are the most racist of all the spanish countries" and I think that's a stupid statement.  I have the right to think it's a stupid statement and I am pretty sure I am not alone on that.  So I am sorry if you don't appreciate that but I don't agree with you and If I ever generalize an entire country then feel free to say my statement is stupid too.  My husband is Argentino and most of my friends are from Argentina and I can assure you none of them are racist and they don't make silly general comments about any one country.



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rick wrote:

wel l , miguel too bad to hear that ... i also met peruvians that gave me attitude cuz i was hangin out with white friends .. all in toronto though ... but i can tell u that peruvians in missisauga are a lot nicer than toronto.. bueno hasta ahora a los que he conocido .. in the summer we play soccer every saturday so u r invited if u wanna join



maybe we know some people in common.. thanks for the invite!

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hey i listen to spanish music sometimes, LOL

cool!! I think a great opportunity for you to get familiarized a bit more with it is the Gardenias gig on Jan 14th , 2006 at the Smiling Buddha Bar.
 




i'll come by dude, i've been there before and i live around there.

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hey i listen to spanish music sometimes, LOL


cool!! I think a great opportunity for you to get familiarized a bit more with it is the Gardenias gig on Jan 14th , 2006 at the Smiling Buddha Bar.


 




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wel l , miguel too bad to hear that ... i also met peruvians that gave me attitude cuz i was hangin out with white friends .. all in toronto though ... but i can tell u that peruvians in missisauga are a lot nicer than toronto.. bueno hasta ahora a los que he conocido .. in the summer we play soccer every saturday so u r invited if u wanna join

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Chilenita wrote:

ahahahaha Miguel they met you



hey i listen to spanish music sometimes, LOL

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