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Dogo wrote:


Bainaman wrote:
All this empanada talk is getting me hungry...... .....any "pupusas" around?!?!?!?

I think you mean "pupussies" LOL!




Whatever the name......

....as long as it does the "job".......I'm good!



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Bainaman wrote:


All this empanada talk is getting me hungry...... .....any "pupusas" around?!?!?!?


I think you mean "pupussies" LOL!



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All this empanada talk is getting me hungry......


.....any "pupusas" around?!?!?!?



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No, not really. Just curious.

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Lahtina wrote:


Dogo wrote: Lahtina wrote: But you wouldn't find it "weird" then? Hmmmmm, I dunno........ there would definitely have to be some quemistry between me and the empanada (lol!) otherwise no I guess i'd have to think about it a bit more So you could never be the guy who said to himself, "don't look down".


hmmmmmmmmm no, prob not


(are we going somewhere with this? LOL!!)



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Dogo wrote:


Lahtina wrote: But you wouldn't find it "weird" then? Hmmmmm, I dunno........ there would definitely have to be some quemistry between me and the empanada (lol!) otherwise no I guess i'd have to think about it a bit more


So you could never be the guy who said to himself, "don't look down".



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Lahtina wrote:


But you wouldn't find it "weird" then?


Hmmmmm, I dunno........ there would definitely have to be some quemistry between me and the empanada (lol!) otherwise no


I guess i'd have to think about it a bit more



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But you wouldn't find it "weird" then?

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Lahtina wrote:


Would you ever pay for empanadas?


Depends, I might consider it..... but haven't come across a good deal on empanadas yet. And i take it that good empanadas are becoming scarce and expensive... maybe more demand? i dunno!



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Would you ever pay for empanadas?

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Lahtina wrote:


Like, eh? That seems so undefined.


Take it as you will


(still bored, wish I had an "empanada")



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Like, eh? That seems so undefined.

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I like "Empanadas"

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LOL, yeah, that was my second guess but Jarvis is easier to spell. Hehehe

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Lahtina wrote:


Getting your empanadas at Jarvis?



not even....


 


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neruda wrote:


I guess its a moot point since the only people who would come would be the members of my fan club (current membership total : 1 ). Oh well that just means more empanadas for me. (Maybe even some of the peluda sort) 


I don't think the president and founder (you) counts. Getting your empanadas at Jarvis?



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I think you're all misreading Neruda's post here (Read between the lines, people). What he means is that we're all invited to have empanadas at his place (not the dirrty version, but the actual Jumbo empanadas version). It does sound like a foro gathering to me... doesn't it?


Wow that's the most liberal interpretation of any text I've seen yet.


Unfortunately my modest downtown condo would not accommodate all foro members. It certainly could not survive the rage some foro members would unleash once inside my place.


I guess its a moot point since the only people who would come would be the members of my fan club (current membership total : 1 ).


Oh well that just means more empanadas for me. (Maybe even some of the peluda sort



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I think you're all misreading Neruda's post here (Read between the lines, people). What he means is that we're all invited to have empanadas at his place (not the dirrty version, but the actual Jumbo empanadas version). It does sound like a foro gathering to me... doesn't it?

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Hey!!! I already posted a thread about this...


Please see Pinochet under house arrest thread


 



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Lahtina wrote:


See now "Pinochet" would be a more appropriate euphemism. Don't people in some Latin American countries use empanada for a woman's privates? Huh... now I'm wondering about this trivial thing.  


Not to be crude, but plenty of my friends’ call the woman’s private as “EMPANADA”… sometimes know as…


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


“la empanada peluda”



 



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See now "Pinochet" would be a more appropriate euphemism. Don't people in some Latin American countries use empanada for a woman's privates? Huh... now I'm wondering about this trivial thing.  

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Was I saluting my "pinochet" or was my "empanada" saluting pinochet? 

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Men have got to stop naming their wee wee after food. Interesting metaphor there, Neruda.

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The wishing of the simple death of Pinochet would not be just. Too many secrets would die with him. If he is ever convicted (of anything) we will never have a consensus on how to punish him.



What is important to find out is how everything was possible. It’s too easy to say that it was the Americans and their CIA. Was Chile so fragile a democracy (that second oldest in this hemisphere), so feeble in its sovereignty, that a few million dollars funneled to the truckers by the CIA was able to topple the government? I don't believe the complete answer lies in blaming outside forces.



Indeed, Pinochet did have help. The help of his fellow chilenos. The ones working close to him and the ones who were furthest away from him. The ones filled with hate toward their neighbour, the ones who were willfully blind to what was going around them.



The machinations of torture and death were systemic in the social and political structure of Chilean society. From those creating policies in the moneda to those executing the orders on the street with their big black boots, the trail of blood runs long.



Certainly, to convict and or execute Pinochet would be a grand symbolic gesture to all those who dared threaten human rights. It would truly signal the return of a hallmark of democracy - an independent judicial system. That would be a celebration in itself.



But can we be sure it won't happen again? No, the execution of Pinochet would absolve all those who worked closely with him. They would breathe a sigh of relief for there would be little political motivation to investigate their role and prosecute them. We must find out more about this structure (and culture?) of compliance. It wasn't merely "following orders".



Pinochet has many secrets - some of which, I believe, shouldn't follow him to the grave.



-- Edited by neruda at 17:45, 2005-11-25

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