I just got this new one that drops into Oye Como Va, its amazing..a good night starter track

It's good to have those sounds incorporate it into  house/trance beats...
not only cumbia ...also quebradita oand other nortenos rhytms....if you have a chance listen to Nortec Collection (Bostich + Fussible)   any of the Tijuana Sessions Vol 1-3





(I couldn't find El lado Oscuro de Mi Compadre, one of my favourites)

There is also the Mexican Institute of Sound with two albums Pinata and Mejico Maxico   Amazing stuff!

DJAlonso wrote:

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Thats Samim - Heater..Sick tune...but I got a better one for ya, since we are on the latin house tip..... check this out, Todd Terry rocked it out in Miami with this tune.  It is on of my big tunes now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au2IPoIIsYo


(I dont know how to embed the video on the post like you homie...) check it out, sick sick tune! Mastiksoul - Jacobino

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salsa, merengue all the way

hiphop is alright too

dance , mmm depends on my mood

reggaeton , mmm i only listen to tego calderon and voltios

For me it is House Music all the way.....

I just wanted to B.U.T.T. this thread  because I'm listening to Ministry of Sound "the Annual 2006" (CD1 & 2) and I realized that I really like house music....

LADYBUG:     SORRY I COULD OF SWORN I PUT 2 DJS....

OK, MY FAV. DJS ARE PAUL OKENFOLD & DJ AM..... 

AND AS FOR HIP HOP, DJ CLUE AND A-TRAK

LOL, when september ends! hahahha

Yeah, all music is good anyways, just enjoy it differently. 

To lighten things up, here is a note on the big influences latino's have in house music

See if you can recognize these names

India, Litlle Louie Vega, Roger Sanchez, Eric Morillo (He was the one that originated from Real to Real, remember the track I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT), Robbie Rivera, Hernan Catanneo, David Morales, Chus and Ceballos, Victor Calderone, Jellybean Benitez (Maddonas original producer, the guy the was behind revolutionizing pop music), Junior Vasquez, Andres Mijangos (Grammy Winner), Jose Padilla and many more.

 

I think that Latin artist's / producers are very succesfull in this genre because the music is similar to the point of traditional Latin music, they are both meant for dancing and having a good time...its about a feeling...

As for one of my favorite cd's this year is Africanism All Stars 2005 by Bob Sinclair...although it has a lot of that african vibe to it and somewhat caribbean vocals, the rythm is very similar to the afro sounds of Latin America.... I think this is worth checking out, as well as anything that Masters at Work (Louie Vega) produces...which is usually golden.

By the way, did you all know that Marc Anthony was big in the Freestyle scene before venturing into salsa?

 

-- Edited by DJAlonso at 15:52, 2005-10-26

Pancho Cachondo wrote:

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I like cumbias !

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same here

I like cumbias !

LaDyBuG wrote:

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And WEED being a drug.....

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I disagree.....

 

....it's a blessing.

HOLY IT TOOK ME 45 MTS TO READ THIS THREAD....... AND HERE GOES MY 1 CENT.....CUZ EVERYONE PUT IN TWO OR THREE......WHICH MEANS IM ONLY POSTING ONCE!!!! (LOL)

 

HIP HOP HAS A BIGGER INFLUENCE IN NORTH AMERICA BUT IN THE REST OF THE WROLD HIP HOP IS CALLED UNDERGROUND MUSIC......THERE VERY LITTLE PPL THAT LISTEN TO THIS OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA......

 

HOUSE MUSIC IS WORLD KNOWN ESPECIALLY IN EUROPE.....BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THIS.......

 

HIP HOP HAS MORE OF THE LAID BACK URBAN CROWD......THE CHILL OUT CROWD THE HOUSE HAS MORE OF PARTY GOERS.....

 

I HAVE BEEN TO BOTH SCENE AND ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT THEY BOTH HAVE THERE FLAWS....

LET ME POINT THEM

HIP HOP: DRUGS,YOUNGER CROWD,ATTITUDE,

HOUSE: LAID BACK, DRUG FEST, EITHER YOU IN OUR OUT....

 

BUT WAT KILLS ME IS DA FACT THAT THE ENGLISH MARKET HAS BECOME A DRUG FEST.....WHILE IN OTHER SCENE ITS A BIT MORE DISCREET ABOUT IT.....YOU GO TO AN ENGLISH CLUB AND ITS EVERWHERE WHILE YOU GO TO A JAM AND YOU HAVE TO ASK AROUND.....I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT....I SPEAK TO MANY PPL IN DA INDUSTRY AND THEY DONT FEEL SAFE IN THE ENGLISH CLUBS AT ALL AS MANY CALL IT A DRUG FEST.......

 

I PERSONALLY WOULD CHOOSE HIP HOP ANY DAY...SINCE I GREW UP TO IT......BUT HOUSE MAKES DA WORLD GO ROUND....ANOTHER THING IS THAT DA HOUSE SCENE HERE IS ABOUT THE DRUGS AND HOW LONG CAN I GO...BUT AROUND DA WORLD PPL PARTY WITHOUT DRUGS, OR ALCOHOL.....

 

IS IT BECAUSE IN NORTH AMERICA THERE NUTHIN ELSE TO DO??

AS FOR HIP HOP IS MORE OF AN EMPIRE.....ITS HAS DIVERSIFIED ITSELF MORE.......

 

ps - the nuyorican soul album is a classic, groundbreaking album, produced by two LATIN guys.. regardless of the genre

@ DJ ALONSO yup I have been to goverment on a saturday night, and yes you are right there are many asian people, but there are more white people, and very little black people and hispanics, and if there are black people at goverment they are in the orange room.  Whatever you have your own point of views on this issue and I have mine...so like I always say I'm not going to try to sell you something that you don't want to buy.

-- Edited by Sweetness at 11:22, 2005-10-26

Have you ever been to the Guv on a saturday? THe main room is occupied by a majority Asian crowd....

As to the comment you mentioned about the underground hip hop, I think I wrote in my post, that the problem with the whole hip hop thing now a days is the commercialization of the genre.

An awesome mixed crowd is the Black Brown and Beige Parties.....very upscale people, a bit older, that dont mess up a party.

As for house, house music is the only genre that is enjoyed by absolutely everyone of any race or background or from anywhere in the world.

As for the Latin scene here.....I got out of it for a reason....Ladybug knows....thats all I gotta say.....been there, done that!

IN THE BEGINING THERE WAS JACK, AND JACK HAD A GROOVE!

(I am listening to classic house in the background as I write this)lol

 

@ SWEETNESS

You're obviously very passionate about this issue, but please understand that we
are not trying to affect you personally in any way, and yet it comes across that way.

For the record, I would (and do) go to a hip hop jam any day, over a house party....and Alonso knows this.
But that's not to say that I have not given house a fair chance over the years.....it's just not my thing.....
I love music in general. But for every house song I like, I enjoy 100 hip hop songs better....lol

Also, I said it's the "CLASS" of people that go to these venues (either hip hop OR house) not "TYPE" of people.
There is a huge difference in those 2 statements......and it was NOT meant stereotypically/racially.....
People with no class have no life education, well-upbringing, and logic......which is why they do what they do, whether it's violence or whatever......

So far, 9/10 shootings, murders and stabbings in Hip Hop Jams (downtown & some uptown) have been with black victims/shooters....but there's also that 1 percent of other cultures.......So I understand when you say that people automatically assume "it's a black thing"......BUT......this is all we are exposed to on the NEWS......so judgements, criticisms and a rep gone bad, in this case is based on MAJORITY.......and with that said, people will "assume" from those facts......that's just the way it is......can you prove it wrong?

House clubs on the other hand......all full of European, happy go lucky, smokers, who just want to dance.....they could be the worse people on earth, even criminals during the day.....but at a house club, all you see is the mutual love and unity for the music......all the drama and BS is left outside in most cases......AND it's never taken as far as murder......

I'm strictly basing this on facts, the news and personal experiences......."been there, done that" kinda thing.

So girl, I do understand your defensive views on this......but even my black friends agree 100% on the situation......they are also fed up with all the BS that happens in Hip Hop clubs with their own people......they just make better options of where to go, that's all........

And as for "Latin Club Violence"...................all the ones that I am aware of have been based purely on a hot tempered REVENGE......and the shooters have been under 25 yrs of age.......

Sweetness wrote:
when you go to house jams the majority of people that go there are white

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this is not true. crowds at house jams are mixed. from whites to blacks to asians to latinos to drag queens to beefy gay dudes to... everything.

when house started, house was gay music and house was black music. there's always been that spirit of inclusiveness and being able to be yourself.

that being said hiphop crowds are pretty racially mixed (given that hiphop has crossed all racial boundaries) but i would say not sexually mixed.. you're not going to see very many gays at hiphop jams

jack, jack yo' body

-- Edited by miguel at 10:25, 2005-10-26

DJAlonso wrote:

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Yup. Ladybug, we are on the same page baby. About the drugs from hip hop to house jams, believe me, it is exactly the same on both sides of the spectrum, one does more E one does more Coke, etc etc etc....no difference. But its like you say, at least you choose to die of an overdose, no one inflicts it on you....but when there is a shooting involved, well....if the bullet hits you, I am sure it is not by choice.... Hip Hop Jams suck....Old School Jams rock....but House Jams are best.... My suggestion if for those that have a mentality of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to certain genres, you are missing out....learn how to appreciate each type of music for what it is worth and you'll be a lot happier when partying!    

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I agree with what both you and ladybug are saying, but where I think you are wrong is when you say some people choose to die of an overdose.  Who would want to die of an overdose?  Only a stupid person would want to die of an overdose, nobody dies of an overdose intentionally unless they have a death wish, or they have been druged which is also something that you see more at house jams.  Yes there are drugs all over the place, but like I have said many times you are more likely to see someone die of an overdose in a house jam then you would at a hip hop club, and I'm not saying that there aren't any drugs at hip hop clubs because there are, but I can tell you that the majority of people that go to hip hop clubs are more likely to be smoking weed then any other type of drug vs house jams where you will see hardcore drugs like coke, E, K etc...

I'm not denying the fact that there are many shootings, stabbings and whatnot at hip hop clubs, but I can say that house jams have also had their fair share of violence aswell.  Overall in all types of clubs you will see drugs and violence, and I can tell you that violence pops up everywhere including latin clubs.  Latin clubs have had their fair share of violence and drugs too.  I mean latin clubs are starting to get the bad rep that hip hop clubs are getting. Look at all the latin clubs or nights that have been closed down due to shootings like Di carlos back in the day and the old Park Ave, and there's been shootings at plaza and palazzo, and there have been many fights at previllege and mana.  All of this violence has happend in a latin club or latin night, so what does that tell you?...well that violence doesn't only pop up in hip hop clubs.  You can find that anywhere you go. 

Many people have said it's the type of people that go there, and we all know what this truly means.  When you go to a hip hop club the majority of people there are black, when you go to a latin club the majority of people that go there are latinos, and when you go to house jams the majority of people that go there are white.  So when people say "it's the type of people that go there" we all know what it really means and what it boils down to in the end, and this is the mentallity of many people, whether we want to believe or admit it or not.  It's just pure stereotyping like in any other issue.  I like going to house jams, but I rather go to a hip hop club, but that's me everyone is different.

My suggestion if for those that have a mentality of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to certain genres, you are missing out....learn how to appreciate each type of music for what it is worth and you'll be a lot happier when partying!      You say this, so my advise to you is take your own advise, becasue you seem to say noooooooooo to hip hop jams or music, and for the record there is more to hip hop then just R&B and Rap, these things are just part of the hip hop culture.  One more thing you guys say that hip hop music gives out bad messages, and that the only thing that they talk about in their music is about hoes, and how many things they have, and so on, but have you guys ever heard of underground hip hop?  Well if you haven't let me tell you that underground hip hop has nothing to do with how many b*tches or "bling bling" the rapper has.  These underground rappers talk about real life issues, and about things that they have gone through, and what people can really relate to.  Don't be so fast to judge untill you know or have seen the whole picture of the hip hop culture.

Yup. Ladybug, we are on the same page baby.

About the drugs from hip hop to house jams, believe me, it is exactly the same on both sides of the spectrum, one does more E one does more Coke, etc etc etc....no difference. But its like you say, at least you choose to die of an overdose, no one inflicts it on you....but when there is a shooting involved, well....if the bullet hits you, I am sure it is not by choice....

Hip Hop Jams suck....Old School Jams rock....but House Jams are best....

My suggestion if for those that have a mentality of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to certain genres, you are missing out....learn how to appreciate each type of music for what it is worth and you'll be a lot happier when partying!

 

 

LaDyBuG wrote:

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So if there's more security at a Hip Hop Jam.....then why do we see more shootings, stabbings & fights? That's what I find Ironic..... And WEED being a drug.....there's far more of it at ANY hip hop jam as opposed to a house jam.....

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  When I say there is more security at hip hop clubs what I mean is that they make it a point to have more security there, because of the bad rep that hip hop clubs have for shootings, but now I can say the same about latin clubs, because we have almost the same rep.  Yes there is weed, but you're more likely to get away with sneaking in a pill vs weed, because weed has a very srtong oder, and if there is any smoking going on it's either going to be outside the club, in the washroom, or in the smoking room if they have one.  You won't see any smoking in the main rooms of the club, because of the law.  Just because the majority of people that go to hip hop clubs are black does not mean that there is more weed there then there is at a house jam, and I know that's not what you said but let's be straight up when most people think of hip hop clubs they think that the majority of people there are black right, so they figure since there's many black people there, then there must be tons of weed in there.  I'm not saying that you think this way, but let's be real that's the mentality of many people.

I can tell you from experience that I have gone to my fair share of house jams and there is plenty of weed there too, but in the washroom or smoking room like any other club.  People just assume that because you go to a hip hop club all the people there are going to be smoking up, but there is a difference between the drugs that they do at hip hop clubs vs house jams.  In hip hop clubs yes you will see plenty of weed, and maybe a tiny bit of other stuff, but at house jams you will see a lot of hardcore drugs, and you will also see plenty of weed in house jams aswell. 

Yes we have heard of more shootings, and violence in hip hop clubs, but tell me how often you hear of people dying in a hip hop club from a drug overdose you might hear that once in a while, but not as much as you would hear that at a house jam, and like I said before every scene has it's dark side or underworld.  For hip hop clubs yes I agree it's violence, and for house jams it's drugs.  In the end it doesn't matter what kind of club you go to you will see violence, and drugs pop up here and there, but it's your choice whether you want to participate in that or not.

@ Preciosa - Long Article but worth it.

While I can say first hand that the drug issue is the absolutely the same in parties of both genre's of music, it is not necessary to submit yourself to these in order to enjoy them more or less. 

I can appreciate different kinds of music, but it is because of this appreciation that I have that I can understand that there will be less violence (or a better crowd) for the most part, at house music events or events where the dj programs more house music over the hardcore hip hop, which is why the reality that there is more violence at hip hop events forces me to make a rational decision and enjoy a good time without worrying about the sketchyness of the rest of the attendants.  And since I can appreciate both, I can vouch that for this reason house music events are way better then hip hop events, to my preference in partying style because I do not want to expose myself at being in a violent setting.

@Ladybug - bullets dont have names, so if someone gets shot from something, it is not as simple as it was meant to happen.....some idiot had to pull the trigger and that idiot had a choice, just like we have the choice of either standing in front of that gun or far away from it.

Alcohol does impair people to make rational decisions, but what do you think influence people to behave more violent - a song about dancing and music or a song about ****es, hos and drive-bys.

The commercialization of hip hop culture has destroyed what it originally was created for and is hip hop to blame for the violence? NOP - Think Canada, where the majority of Canadians do NOT COME FROM THE GETTOH (as scarborough is a joke compared to the rough places in the states), it is this majority of suburbian kids (the ones with the guns, shooting up nightclubs)that have been told by marketers that this certain glorified image (which really there is nothing to be proud about in these images) is what they should be, which the message was only delivered to them because stupid parents let it. 

Thats my opinion, I hope I have not offended anyone.  House all the way!

 

So if there's more security at a Hip Hop Jam.....then why do we see more shootings, stabbings & fights?

That's what I find Ironic.....

And WEED being a drug.....there's far more of it at ANY hip hop jam as opposed to a house jam.....

euphoria wrote:

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listen sweetness RITE HIP HOP, cuz ur comparing dance and stuff...

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Ok take a chill pill hun.  It was a simple question.  I didn't mean to ofend you, and if I did I'm sorry that was not my intention.  I just didn't get what you meant. OK

HIP  HOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DANCE HALL 4 LIFE

@ SWEETNESS

I disagree when you say this ".... clubs where they play house encourage more drugs" .....becuase that is like saying "clubs where they play hip hop encourage more shootings and swearing".........
It's the word ENCOURAGE I have a problem with....it's like saying they influence it totally.....

I do understand what you're saying about "E".....but I believe that mainly happens at underground Raves instead of your average local House Party.......and even at raves you have an option....althought it's better to be on "E" while dancing to that music.....lol

It's all about maturity and up bringing.......people that don't know any better will act stupid anywhere.......


My question is: WHERE IS THE SECURITY AT ALL THESE CLUBS WHERE SHOOTINGS OCCUR ????

If I get patted down at the door of a club and they revise my purse.......how about those hooligans??