*TIPPING*

El Representante · Guru

RE: *TIPPING*

LGigolo · Comandante

El Representante wrote:

I tip for faster service . . . Sometimes I watch for a reaction - if the person does not seem thankful for the tip they got it leaves me wondering . . .

Faster is not necessarily better – I preffer QUALITY over SPEEDY GONZALES service… I prefer to wait a REASONABLE amount of time for my meal; but I want it to come out looking good and tasting great!

El Representante · Guru

I tip for faster service . . .

Sometimes I watch for a reaction - if the person does not seem thankful for the tip they got it leaves me wondering . . .

LGigolo · Comandante

All I can say is that I worked in the service industry as a waiter and what you get paid from the house (restaurant/bar) is just minimum wage – if you’re lucky… sometimes even less than that. So, to make some money on the job, you HAVE to get some tips… 15% (or the total of GST + PST) is reasonable for reasonable service… if service sucked and you want to let it be known – best way with a lower tip… Similarly if service was great, why not leave more or offer to buy the waiter/chef a beer… That’s pretty much how I tip… somewhere between 10 – 20% depending on how good the food/service was.

El Representante · Guru

LaDyBuG wrote:

@ BUffy.....that to me is a "culturally" related question......(but I won't get into it) The man from 1 couple might grab the entire bill and pay for everyone.... You guys can ask for separate bills AT THE BEGINNING, so there's no hassle at the end (use an excuse like "i'm paying debit, or visa"...etc) If those couples have common sense, they will put up most of the bill......(if they have class, they will pay for the whole thing)...... if it's amongst good and true friends......it's ok to be comfortable with each other OR someone pays the entire bill this time and next time it's someone else..... OR if none of the above....I suggest you don't go out with these people again.....se abusaron....lol

I feel the same way . . .

GENIE · Foro Master

GUYS I TIP NO MATTER WHAT IF THE SERVICE SUCKS OR ITS GREAT I MEAN IM VERY UNDERSTANDING AS MOST OF U KNOW AND WE ARE ENTITLEED TO OUR BAD DAYS AS WELL RIGHT SO I DO TIP AND EVEN IF I GET ATTITUDE I JUST TELL THEM SWEETY NEXT TIME BE NICER AND MAYBE THE TIP WILL BE BIGGER OK!! BUT I ALWAYS TIP

confundida · Foro Master

IM GOING TO MAKE MOSQUITO READ THIS!!!! THKS TO LADYBUG!!!!!

QUE chula LINDA · Guru

15% is a must! Most servers get paid very low per hour, and they depend on tip. (except in classy restaurants where tip is included within the bill, or banquet halls where they they get paid much more per hour)

IF the waiter/waitress sucks then I guess 1 or 2 dollars is ok (or nada, if they are really b!tchy). Usually servers are aware that low tip reflects on their poor service and inhospitality. ALso don't judge the server if food does not taste great, they have no or very little say in it.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

The BEST Bartending School:

THE ONTARIO SCHOOL OF BARTENDING

Located on BROADVIEW....Corner of Danforth

Cheap, twice a week.....

I got my licence from there

It's all memory work....the class is all practical.....

Gitana · Foro Master

Caliche wrote:

LADYBUG: ANY SUGGESTION OF GOOD BARTENDING SCHOOLS??? GITANA: MI VIDA, SI TU COSINAS I MAKE SURE I EAT IT. YO TE DOY EL POSTRE, ALGO CON LECHE CONDENSADA... SE CUANTO TE GUSTA.... Y NO TE EMPALAGA PARA NADA....
Y TU COMO SABES SI ME GUSTA LA LECHE CONDENSADA???

Caliche · TOP Guru

LADYBUG: ANY SUGGESTION OF GOOD BARTENDING SCHOOLS???

GITANA: MI VIDA, SI TU COSINAS I MAKE SURE I EAT IT. YO TE DOY EL POSTRE,

ALGO CON LECHE CONDENSADA.

.. SE CUANTO TE GUSTA.... Y NO TE EMPALAGA PARA NADA....

Gitana · Foro Master

Caliche wrote:

IS SUSHI THAT STUFF THEY MAKE BACK IN GUATEMALA ENVUELTA EN UNA HOJA DE BANANO VERDE?? OH WAIT THATS TAMALES... NEVERMIND

ESOS SON INVENTOS DE LA GENTE DE HONDURAS!!!!!

EITHER WAY.... IF I GAVE THAT TO YOU.... YOU'D EAT IT REGARDLESS...

LaDyBuG · Comandante

@ Miel....it all depends on the Banquet Hall and its owners......obviously the classier, expensive places will pay their staff more......and it's harder to get that job.....
Agency waiters make a lot less, of course......because the agency takes a big chunk.....(ohhh another word that ends in UNK).....LOL ...(that one was for Daeveed)

Ohh and Banquet Hall Bartenders make over $150 in tips only......minimum.....

(am I sensing career changes?? LOL)

Chale_Tanga · TOP Guru

A regular tip is usually 15% of the bill... ie. tax.

If the server is extremely nice and helpful and bends over backwards for you, hell yah... give him/her more than 15%. However, if he/she is rude and sucky then forget it... Im not leaving 15% of anything! One time I was on a date and we had such horrendous service that buddy just paid the bill to the penny and left ABSOLUTELY NO tip!

Charlie Moet · Guru

most of the time i tip more than 15%, but there is times that the service is garbage and i just leave the change of the bill.

Miel · Guru

LaDyBuG wrote:

Ok.....a TIP is specifically for the service.......otherwise go get the food yourself......so if the service is really bad......NO TIP.....or $1 so they know that's all their worth......AND tell their manager.....AND tell the server....leaving a tip no matter what will allow the bad service to continue......and people like that should be banned from the industry....... BANQUET HALL: In some halls, if you slide the waiter a bill, your table will get faster service and VIP treatment all night....even seconds on food........the reason you don't tip a banquet hall server is because they make anywhere from $12-$16 an hour......AND it's included in the price the host is paying for that hall....

Which banquet hall???,. The experince that I have is the salary is sometimes less than $12 per hour,. but it s true what u said about the VIP treatment,.. the tip would be like an incentive for the waiter,. si el servicio es bueno porque no,..

Daeveed · Foro Master

LaDyBuG wrote:

if you slide the waiter a bill, your table will get faster service and VIP treatment all night....even seconds on food

that's true, I always do it. works everytime.

Faster service, seconds, stronger booze, more bottles of wine, et cetera...

LaDyBuG · Comandante

Ok.....a TIP is specifically for the service.......otherwise go get the food yourself......so if the service is really bad......NO TIP.....or $1 so they know that's all their worth......AND tell their manager.....AND tell the server....leaving a tip no matter what will allow the bad service to continue......and people like that should be banned from the industry.......

BANQUET HALL: In some halls, if you slide the waiter a bill, your table will get faster service and VIP treatment all night....even seconds on food........the reason you don't tip a banquet hall server is because they make anywhere from $12-$16 an hour......AND it's included in the price the host is paying for that hall....

Miel · Guru

i agree with most of your comments ,. either if you receive good or bad service ,. you should leave the 15% of the bill as a tip,. but If the service is bad,. you should complaint to the manager,. because you pay for a good service . And regarding Tv Buff story ,. if they are good friends one shoul pay the bill ,. and the next time the other should pay it,.. todo depende en el grado de confianza que tengas con las personas ,..

A question ,. when you go to a banquet hall for a wedding or something,. do u tip the person who is serving you,.. ????

DR J · Guru

If it's regular friends, I would split the bill 3 ways... I've always done it this way every time I go out with friends, too much hassle figuring out who pays what...and it makes you look cheap. So what if they ate more, maybe next time you'll eat more.

TV Buff wrote:

I have another restaurant related question: when you go out with a bunch of people, let's say three couples, and you all consume different things, let's say you have a salad and the another couple has the most expensive meals in the restaurant, plus they buy cigars and expensive drinks, do you split the bill equally or does each pay for what they consume?
This is hypothetically speaking of course, but let's just say the couple that didn't spend that much never went out with the couple that left them bankrupt again.

X4v13r · Comandante

TV Buff wrote:

PRINCESSA wrote:
Quick story: I went on a date & I ended paying the bill, but the worst was that he took (stole) the tip I left. I almost died in the spot.
No wonder you're so mad at X@vier lately...

how did i get involved in this?????

@PRINCESSA
thnx sweetie

Anyways, I always tip, I know how it is to work in the service industry so.......but if i get a bad service i let them know about it.

my story:
one day some friends and i went out for dinner and we got the worst service ever, we waited for like 1hr for our food and stuff

, so when the bill came, we left her a msg on the bill saying "THNX FOR THE SERVICE.........NOT!!!!!" and we left her a penny as a tip

X@vier

Bainaman · Foro Master

Daeveed wrote:

Bainaman wrote: I went out one night and got pretty hammered. I went to a restaurant to eat afterward......the bill came out to about $20 somthing dollars......I left the girl a $25 dollar tip The next time i went.....the girl tried to give it back to me......I told her to keep it........I didn't mind.....she was cute and I had the hots for her! u r a horny b!tch

I liked her......I wasn't gonna take the tip back. The girl deserved it. She worked her butt off......a nice butt at that!

LaDyBuG · Comandante

@ BUffy.....that to me is a "culturally" related question......(but I won't get into it)

The man from 1 couple might grab the entire bill and pay for everyone....

You guys can ask for separate bills AT THE BEGINNING, so there's no hassle at the end (use an excuse like "i'm paying debit, or visa"...etc)

If those couples have common sense, they will put up most of the bill......(if they have class, they will pay for the whole thing)......

if it's amongst good and true friends......it's ok to be comfortable with each other OR someone pays the entire bill this time and next time it's someone else.....

OR if none of the above....I suggest you don't go out with these people again.....se abusaron....lol

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

TV Buff wrote:

I have another restaurant related question: when you go out with a bunch of people, let's say three couples, and you all consume different things, let's say you have a salad and the another couple has the most expensive meals in the restaurant, plus they buy cigars and expensive drinks, do you split the bill equally or does each pay for what they consume? This is hypothetically speaking of course, but let's just say the couple that didn't spend that much never went out with the couple that left them bankrupt again.

No I wouldn't pay equaly the bill. That's just letting them take advantage at you & the guy ur with. It's rude & if they had matters they will come up & say no the bill it mostly ours, just pay ur part.

I don't think that's wrong.

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

TV Buff wrote:

PRINCESSA wrote: Quick story: I went on a date & I ended paying the bill, but the worst was that he took (stole) the tip I left. I almost died in the spot. No wonder you're so mad at X@vier lately...

@TV BUFF.... No he's good at paying.

@ Ladybug.....I know it's funny now (lol), but really embarasing at the time.

TV Buff · TOP Guru

I have another restaurant related question: when you go out with a bunch of people, let's say three couples, and you all consume different things, let's say you have a salad and the another couple has the most expensive meals in the restaurant, plus they buy cigars and expensive drinks, do you split the bill equally or does each pay for what they consume?

This is hypothetically speaking of course, but let's just say the couple that didn't spend that much never went out with the couple that left them bankrupt again.

Caliche · TOP Guru

PRINCESSA..... SUCKS FOR YOU GIRL.... EL VATO SE PELO!.....

TV Buff · TOP Guru

PRINCESSA wrote:

Quick story: I went on a date & I ended paying the bill, but the worst was that he took (stole) the tip I left. I almost died in the spot.

No wonder you're so mad at X@vier lately...

LaDyBuG · Comandante

@ Princessa: sorry girl but that's just funny.....hahahahahahahahaha

PRINCESSA · TOP Guru

Always leave the 15% which is the basic tip.

If great service of course you leave more, but weather or not you get service 15% should be left.

It's embarrasing not to. I can't do it, just don't go back again.

Quick story: I went on a date & I ended paying the bill, but the worst was that he took (stole) the tip I left. I almost died in the spot.

Daeveed · Foro Master

Bainaman wrote:

I went out one night and got pretty hammered. I went to a restaurant to eat afterward......the bill came out to about $20 somthing dollars......I left the girl a $25 dollar tip The next time i went.....the girl tried to give it back to me......I told her to keep it........I didn't mind.....she was cute and I had the hots for her!

u r a horny b!tch

Bainaman · Foro Master

I went out one night and got pretty hammered.

I went to a restaurant to eat afterward......the bill came out to about $20 somthing dollars......I left the girl a $25 dollar tip

The next time i went.....the girl tried to give it back to me......I told her to keep it........I didn't mind.....she was cute and I had the hots for her!

Caliche · TOP Guru

IS SUSHI THAT STUFF THEY MAKE BACK IN GUATEMALA ENVUELTA EN UNA HOJA DE BANANO VERDE??
OH WAIT THATS TAMALES... NEVERMIND

Daeveed · Foro Master

hahaha. I don't regret the tip though, they were very nice. The tempura wasn't bad.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

ohhh what a waste of a tip.....LOL (just joking)

Daeveed · Foro Master

it was s.h.i.t.

LaDyBuG · Comandante

Good question.............you did the right thing :)

Any place that offers you anything while you wait has some class....so leaving a small tip shows your class...

(again, it's the hospitality, good service thing)......it's your judgement call.....did you feel good enough to leave a tip....OR...did you feel obligated cuz you felt good....LOL

How was the sushi anyway?

Daeveed · Foro Master

I have a question about this.

Last night I went to get sushi for take-out. They gave us green tea while we waited seated.

then they brought the food and the bill. I didn't know if I should leave a tip or not. So I left one, but I'm still not sure.

any advices? comments? slaps on the head?

LaDyBuG · Comandante

I've been on both ends (client & server) so here it is.......

Yes 15% is the normal amount BUT if the service is great then I usually leave a lot more, especially if it's my first time in a place......you do it so they remember you and serve you even better next time (which if they don't then you only leave the server a dollar or 2) LOL.....so they learn......and never go back there again....

NO TOLERANCE FOR ATTITUDE OR BAD SERVICE POLICY.......they are in the hospitality business, THEY HAVE TO BE HOSPITABLE!!! they have one responsabilty, if they can't handle that, then they need to be reported and fast......to the owner, so he knows that the server is making him/her lose clients.

A minimum average bad tip is $1.....a minimum average good tip is $5.......this is just an an average, average place, average service.....etc ....As a server you need to make the client feel like his wish is your command, no matter how picky or B!chy they get....sometimes if you notice they're doing it to annoy you and test you out.......

The prestige of a tip is also normally based on the location where you work......sometimes people (including myself) will leave a tip in a luxurious place, even if the server had attitude (which is normally the bartenders).....just because it's the thing to do in that "nice place".....I guess because you don't want to look cheap, even if you're never going back there again......which if a place makes you feel uncomfortable the first time, you will never go back there anyway, so tip or no tip makes no difference.....they lost a client.

TIPPING depends on the person, how much class and cash they have.....IT IS NOT AN OBLIGATION BUT A GESTURE.....believe it or not some people still don't believe in tipping and they were never educated as the thing to do when you go out. Different ethnic cultures will tip differently regardless of their economic situation.....THIS IS 100% TRUE..... I sometimes might not order that extra drink or the desert JUST to have enough money for the server....

TIPPING "is the thing to do" mainly applies to bartenders even if their service and attitude sucked (which is mainly the case with Canadian bartenders)

-- Edited by LaDyBuG at 07:47, 2005-08-11

El Representante · Guru

Lets hear from Each and Everyone of you FOROHOLICS on this one.

THE TOPIC IS

*TIPPING*

15% of the Total Amount Spent Is The Standard When Leaving A Tip.

In my opinion some servers don’t deserve a tip at all because of awful service. However, if the service is great, then how much do you all really dish out.

Tell us all how much you tip out for good service . . .

What do you consider great service?

I visit very few places on a regular basis. I love good service.

I am really interested in hearing from the ladies . . .