this was in the globe and mail today.. i bolded some of general hillier's comments. looks like we are "taking the fight to the terrorists".. wonder how this will affect people's views of us.. i was just thinking before that bin laden doesn't have control over all terrorist cells in the world and we could even be attacked by autonomous entities
By DANIEL LEBLANC
Friday, July 15, 2005 Updated at 5:09 AM EDT
From Friday's Globe and Mail
Ottawa — Canada's elite JTF2 soldiers are heading to Afghanistan as part of a 2,000-troop deployment that will target the "detestable murderers and scumbags" behind the rise in international terrorism, General Rick Hillier said yesterday.
In a blunt briefing that signalled a new aggressiveness at the top of the Canadian Forces, the Chief of the Defence Staff said the impending operations are risky but necessary in light of last week's bombings in the British public-transit system.
"The London attack actually tells us once more: We can't let up," Gen. Hillier told reporters.
He said terrorists are ready to target Canada as much as any other Western country and that Canadians have to be aware that their soldiers are in for some "risky business" as they head out to Afghanistan.
It was the first time Gen. Hillier has confirmed that members of the Joint Task Force 2 -- the country's secretive commando team -- will be involved in combat missions against the remnants of the former Taliban regime and supporters of al-Qaeda. "These are detestable murderers and scumbags, I'll tell you that right up front. They detest our freedoms, they detest our society, they detest our liberties," Gen. Hillier said.
He stressed the new face of the Canadian Forces, which he said are now focused on the first job at hand: protecting Canadian interests at home and abroad. "We're not the public service of Canada, we're not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces, and our job is to be able to kill people."
Previous Canadian missions in Afghanistan have provided security in Kabul, the capital. But the next three missions, involving 2,000 troops, will be heavily centred in the southern mountains, where soldiers will be called upon to hunt down and fight the insurgents.
Gen. Hillier said Canada is already in the crosshairs of the terrorists, and he does not believe it becomes a bigger target by participating in military operations that give hope to the Afghans.
"We're not going to let those radical murderers and killers rob from others and certainly we're not going to let them rob from Canada," he said.
He pointed out that during the Second World War, Canadian soldiers did not shy away from fighting the Nazis.
"Did they say, 'No we might be attacked over here if we actually stand up against those despicable murderers and bastards?' No, they did not," Gen. Hillier said.
The native of Newfoundland has been the top soldier in Canada for five months. Bolstered by a growing budget, he is promising a "radical transformation" of the forces to make them more effective in their daily operations.
With his straight-talking style, Gen. Hillier has already effected a major change at the top of the military hierarchy in comparison with his blander predecessor, General Ray Henault.
Gen. Hillier is a popular figure among the troops, and he has impressed his political bosses with his vision for the forces.
His goal now is to rally Canadians behind the military and convince young talent to join the expanding forces.
He would not speak about the number of potential casualties among Canadian troops in Afghanistan, while stating there is no such thing as a safe mission.
"You can't reduce the risk to zero," he said.
The recent Canadian rotations in Afghanistan have been centred at Camp Julien in Kabul.
Gen. Hillier said that the coming missions will "shift the centre of gravity to Kandahar," the area of southern Afghanistan that saw the rise of the Taliban.
The goal is to bring stability and democracy to the area, he said, adding that this is "the exact opposite of what people like Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar and those others want."
Later this month, 250 Edmonton-based soldiers will head out to southern Afghanistan to form what is known as a Provincial Reconstruction Team.
The soldiers will be accompanied by officials from the RCMP and the Canadian International Development Agency, the federal aid agency, to develop ties with local officials and help with the reconstruction of the war-torn area.
In addition, 700 soldiers from Petawawa, Ont., are heading to Kabul to help the Afghan authority conduct a general election, planned for September.
After the vote, a large portion of the forces will move down south to join the PRT and prepare for the arrival of the biggest deployment in Kandahar.
In February of next year, about 1,100 soldiers will set up a new camp in the area, heading up a new multinational brigade that will eventually operate under the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, alongside American troops already in the area.
Gen. Hillier also said the army is sending at least 100 armoured vehicles to Sudan.
The Grizzlys are military surplus and several will be sent later this month, with the remainder to follow, he said.
JOKER_ESCO wrote: Colombiana4Life wrote: confundida wrote: El Don wrote: canada wont be hit, feel safe on the subway as u regularly did, the tarrot cards never lie SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT GITANA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN READ THE FUTURE IN THIS FORO!!!! In that case, Gitana (aka Juana Bautista - from Las Juanas), what do u see in my future? LAS JUANAS DAMN QUE MAMASITAS DAMN LA JUANA MAYOR SHE WAS SO UMMM.... NISE COMO ES EL SEGUNDO NOMBRE PERO SE QUE ES LA JUANA MAYOR...... Juana Valentina
Colombiana4Life wrote: confundida wrote: El Don wrote: canada wont be hit, feel safe on the subway as u regularly did, the tarrot cards never lie SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT GITANA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN READ THE FUTURE IN THIS FORO!!!! In that case, Gitana (aka Juana Bautista - from Las Juanas), what do u see in my future? LAS JUANAS DAMN QUE MAMASITAS DAMN LA JUANA MAYOR SHE WAS SO UMMM.... NISE COMO ES EL SEGUNDO NOMBRE PERO SE QUE ES LA JUANA MAYOR......
Juana Valentina
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confundida wrote: El Don wrote: canada wont be hit, feel safe on the subway as u regularly did, the tarrot cards never lie SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT GITANA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN READ THE FUTURE IN THIS FORO!!!! In that case, Gitana (aka Juana Bautista - from Las Juanas), what do u see in my future?
LAS JUANAS DAMN QUE MAMASITAS DAMN LA JUANA MAYOR SHE WAS SO UMMM.... NISE COMO ES EL SEGUNDO NOMBRE PERO SE QUE ES LA JUANA MAYOR......
Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: LGigolo wrote: El Don wrote: looks like Gitana met her match, ive been trained by the one an only walter Walter MERCACO??? A el no le creo ni pio… I don’t think he is too sure what he talks about half of the time… + I am not supertisioso. El Tarot.....mis Pelotas ! What about them, what's their future like. Will they be in Timmins anytime soon? Let's ask Gitana.
I better don't tell you what Im thinking.....but as I said before......Como quieras quiero y cuando quieras quiero !
El Don wrote: canada wont be hit, feel safe on the subway as u regularly did, the tarrot cards never lie SORRY TO TELL U THIS BUT GITANA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN READ THE FUTURE IN THIS FORO!!!!
In that case, Gitana (aka Juana Bautista - from Las Juanas), what do u see in my future?
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LGigolo wrote: El Don wrote: looks like Gitana met her match, ive been trained by the one an only walter Walter MERCACO??? A el no le creo ni pio… I don’t think he is too sure what he talks about half of the time… + I am not supertisioso. El Tarot.....mis Pelotas !
What about them, what's their future like. Will they be in Timmins anytime soon? Let's ask Gitana.
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NOP I AM NOT AFRAID CUASE 1 WAY OR ANOTHER WE ARE GOING 2 DIE SO WHY BE AFRAID U NEVER KNOW WHEN U R GOING 2 MEET YOUR MAKER SO WHY THING ABOUT IT JUST ENJOY LIFE AND KEEP ON DOING THE THINGS U DO KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME COMES IT WILL COME NO MATTER WHAT, REMEMBER THIS NOW DAYS IS MORE LIKELY 2 GET SHOT FROM SOME FOOL IN THE STREET QUE DE UN TERRORIST.......... ESTES ES MI PUNTO DE VISTA...
El Don wrote: canada wont be hit, feel safe on the subway as u regularly did, the tarrot cards never lie Dont tell me that, not only am i paranoid, im superstitious too
In that case, Colombianita, the tarot cards should let you sleep well at night now! LMAO
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Colombiana4Life wrote: LGigolo wrote: El Diablo wrote: Attack Canada? Why? What are they going to do? Stop the flow of Molson and Labbat products? Kidnap Don Cherry? hijack "Hockey Night in Canada"? Let`s face it, on the world stage, Canada is nothing. I don`t think we have to worry about an attack because even the terrorist probably think, "Why would we waste our time attacking Canada?" Oh, and I am Canadian. Canada is the ONLY nation that was on Osama Bin Ladden's list that has not been hit yet - speculation has it, it's only question of time. OK people, u have officially freaked me out and im already a paranoid person. Thanx guys Don't be paranoid... Toronto has what - 4 - 6 million people... what are the chances that you will be one of the victims... LOL OK - NOT FUNNY - but I would rather laugh at it than be paranoid... makes the day go by easier!
Thanks LG, i knew i could count on u to make me feel better.
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LGigolo wrote: El Diablo wrote: Attack Canada? Why? What are they going to do? Stop the flow of Molson and Labbat products? Kidnap Don Cherry? hijack "Hockey Night in Canada"? Let`s face it, on the world stage, Canada is nothing. I don`t think we have to worry about an attack because even the terrorist probably think, "Why would we waste our time attacking Canada?" Oh, and I am Canadian. Canada is the ONLY nation that was on Osama Bin Ladden's list that has not been hit yet - speculation has it, it's only question of time. OK people, u have officially freaked me out and im already a paranoid person. Thanx guys
Don't be paranoid... Toronto has what - 4 - 6 million people... what are the chances that you will be one of the victims... LOL OK - NOT FUNNY - but I would rather laugh at it than be paranoid... makes the day go by easier!
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LGigolo wrote: El Diablo wrote: Attack Canada? Why? What are they going to do? Stop the flow of Molson and Labbat products? Kidnap Don Cherry? hijack "Hockey Night in Canada"? Let`s face it, on the world stage, Canada is nothing. I don`t think we have to worry about an attack because even the terrorist probably think, "Why would we waste our time attacking Canada?" Oh, and I am Canadian. Canada is the ONLY nation that was on Osama Bin Ladden's list that has not been hit yet - speculation has it, it's only question of time.
El Diablo wrote: Attack Canada? Why? What are they going to do? Stop the flow of Molson and Labbat products? Kidnap Don Cherry? hijack "Hockey Night in Canada"? Let`s face it, on the world stage, Canada is nothing. I don`t think we have to worry about an attack because even the terrorist probably think, "Why would we waste our time attacking Canada?" Oh, and I am Canadian. Canada is the ONLY nation that was on Osama Bin Ladden's list that has not been hit yet - speculation has it, it's only question of time.
OK people, u have officially freaked me out and im already a paranoid person. Thanx guys
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Attack Canada? Why? What are they going to do? Stop the flow of Molson and Labbat products? Kidnap Don Cherry? hijack "Hockey Night in Canada"? Let`s face it, on the world stage, Canada is nothing. I don`t think we have to worry about an attack because even the terrorist probably think, "Why would we waste our time attacking Canada?" Oh, and I am Canadian.
Canada is the ONLY nation that was on Osama Bin Ladden's list that has not been hit yet - speculation has it, it's only question of time.
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Not everything I post or say on foro are necesarily true facts. <- THAT is a fact! :blankstare:
Attack Canada? Why? What are they going to do? Stop the flow of Molson and Labbat products? Kidnap Don Cherry? hijack "Hockey Night in Canada"? Let`s face it, on the world stage, Canada is nothing. I don`t think we have to worry about an attack because even the terrorist probably think, "Why would we waste our time attacking Canada?" Oh, and I am Canadian.
I do ride the rocket, but I am not affraid - if something is to happen to me, it could happen anytime anywhere... mind you from what I understand, security and intelligence officials in Canada HAVE stopped/averted possible terrorist attacks in our country at least once or twice - and the TTC was one of the targets.
In cases of break failure or failure of the control of the light signals it is best to be seated in the middle, that way if the train hits or is hit - it's the safest spot... HOWEVER, if there was to be a BOMB or explosives on the train, the middle of the train is the most likely target... sounds to me like ridding the bike to work may be the best option... lol
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Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering..........
well when u put it that way yeah now i am but the most i use is to from wilson station to yorkdale station lol and its above ground!!
But then again if they do strike they wont do subway i think they will do the bsns area downtown sorry girl i know were u work but thats my best bet!! however they have many more reasons not to hit Canada then they have reasons to hit Canada
It s true that Canada might be the next target,. but we can't be sure about it,. even though the evidences tell us the contrary,. but still with attack or not,. some day we r going to die,. y personalmente no temo a morir,..
Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: babes wrote: Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering.......... TTC system is extremely vulnerable it would be a walk in the park to do it..... By the way there is a a Thread called London....the juice is there. Thanks God, now i am paranoid. Only a trip to Timmins will soothe me. get ur back pack ready then.... Already packed, mosquito repellant and all. Buckle it up baby is gonna be a bumpy ride !
Im counting on it.
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Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: babes wrote: Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering.......... TTC system is extremely vulnerable it would be a walk in the park to do it..... By the way there is a a Thread called London....the juice is there. Thanks God, now i am paranoid. Only a trip to Timmins will soothe me. get ur back pack ready then.... Already packed, mosquito repellant and all.
Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: babes wrote: Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering.......... TTC system is extremely vulnerable it would be a walk in the park to do it..... By the way there is a a Thread called London....the juice is there. Thanks God, now i am paranoid. Only a trip to Timmins will soothe me. get ur back pack ready then....
Already packed, mosquito repellant and all.
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Colombiana4Life wrote: God wrote: babes wrote: Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering.......... TTC system is extremely vulnerable it would be a walk in the park to do it..... By the way there is a a Thread called London....the juice is there.
Thanks God, now i am paranoid. Only a trip to Timmins will soothe me.
babes wrote: Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering.......... TTC system is extremely vulnerable it would be a walk in the park to do it..... By the way there is a a Thread called London....the juice is there.
Thanks God, now i am paranoid. Only a trip to Timmins will soothe me.
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babes wrote: Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering..........
TTC system is extremely vulnerable it would be a walk in the park to do it..... By the way there is a a Thread called London....the juice is there.
Don't really know why anyone hasn't started up a thread on this yet...but with the recent bombings , esp. in London (apparently due to terrorist attacks), are any of you guys scared to be riding the TTC? Just wondering..........
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Don't be paranoid... Toronto has what - 4 - 6 million people... what are the chances that you will be one of the victims... LOL 
