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"Yea thanks ive been there too long first at the university of windsor and then at sheridan.  Thanks for coming out.  The winner is Jessica de mississauga (salvadorena) whom thanks to dulce received her prize.  That was a very expensive lunch. This song is a pilar in latin music.  Thanks for the concern  on my education.  How im i. You post I am a Guatemalteco man.  If you wanna discuss this further call me. 416 825 5008.  Dont hide behind your ip adress.  Ask for central american reggaton its worth it."


central american reggaton its worth it." You mean panamenian reggae only, beacause the rest of centro america didnt contribute **** to spanish reggae, so dont think its centro america as a whole that gets the recognition.
And it aint even worth, panamanian reggae artists are the true pioneers il give them that, But the Ricans just simply made it better, quality, sound, lyrics, etc..the tra tra beat is way different then dance hall, and people who dont know **** about reggaeton will just say "oh its the same as danchall bla bla"

Most of the old school panamenian reggae consisted of artists mimicking jamaican reggae beats lyrics for example "trailor lleno" gringo copying shaba etc..It was all hype and all back then beacause spanish people enjoyed it , since it was the first spanish reggae ever heard.

The reason why panamenian reggae never blew up like PR reggaeton is cause PR can easily do the crossover to the hiphop market since PR's second lanaguage is english, considering they are part of the U.S . So the artists don omar tego yankee etc get the chance to sing in english with 50 cent, NORE, etc..and the fact is that panamenian reggae never evolved into something better and at a wider range




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kool page and keep supporting reggaeton

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Reggaeton + 10 million CDs =  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


 


Listen to 24/7 Reggaeton Live from ClearChannel Corporation


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you know people do have a right to their opinion, and be critical of an artist, please don't mistaken this as "spreading evil" let me be blunt, Mc Puppet is weak, but his beats are all right, however this is my own opinion some one else may think differently. As an artist you have to be ready for the positive and the negative, and hopefully the artist can take constructive criticism.
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This is really not cool. You may not like his music but to come and bash the man on a public forum like that specially hiding as an anonymous is cowardly. Its one thing to tell him personally or atleast if he had posted u could reply... talking about behind their back is not contructive criticism, its gossip.

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This is my point .  Why dont you tell him that to his face.  You may be an artist just like him.  Why not help him.  If thats what you think. 


No tiene que aber division entre nosotros los de toronto.  La uninad solo nos hara mas fuertes. 


MC puppet I like his new song.  And if you hear how puppet was inspired to write this song.  Well ask him yourself but all the women in this foro might really apriciate his sensitive side. 



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"Phantasma i understood perfect.  I disagree.  You are one person like im one person.  Whom you see as talent i may not.  I never thought Billy Talent would became what they did.  But they did imagine if i would have put them down and started rumors and hate towards them when they were starting.  No player I promoted them and although i dont like rock sat in the medowvale garage listening to this.  Driving them home.  Who was to know.  Maybe puppet a guatemalteco or code blue centro americanos.  Or even  Fito centro americano might even become platinum.  But to me watching some one judge an spread evil is  not right.  Im from the old school of family values and if you live in my house i will cover your back.  And if i dont like it I shut my mouth.  Advice the artist or brother or sister or friend.  Its a trend that i lean toward acting out in my life."



you know people do have a right to their opinion, and be critical of an artist, please don't mistaken this as "spreading evil" let me be blunt, Mc Puppet is weak, but his beats are all right, however this is my own opinion some one else may think differently. As an artist you have to be ready for the positive and the negative, and hopefully the artist can take constructive criticism.

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Phantasma i understood perfect.  I disagree.  You are one person like im one person.  Whom you see as talent i may not.  I never thought Billy Talent would became what they did.  But they did imagine if i would have put them down and started rumors and hate towards them when they were starting.  No player I promoted them and although i dont like rock sat in the medowvale garage listening to this.  Driving them home.  Who was to know.  Maybe puppet a guatemalteco or code blue centro americanos.  Or even  Fito centro americano might even become platinum.  But to me watching some one judge an spread evil is  not right.  Im from the old school of family values and if you live in my house i will cover your back.  And if i dont like it I shut my mouth.  Advice the artist or brother or sister or friend.  Its a trend that i lean toward acting out in my life.



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"Reggaton is not music.  There is no talent behind it.  No inmagination.  Half cant even sign.  The only reason youre all  hipe about it is because their playing it on Z and english people are liking it and your all jumping on the wagon.  Guess what ricky martin was hot too.  this will pass and youll all still be latinos.  Support talent not trends.  what does it make you all feel like you need to be asociated to this music to be acepted by society.  grow up people.  get some self worth. get over your inferiority complexes. put your chin up and be yourselves. just an opinion."


Buddy, learn to spell and use correct puntuation before you post in a public forum.


 



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"I just didnt want to spend to much time on your ignorance and B/S!!! You are too funny! "anonymous" take care buddy!"


That wasnt anonymous, I said it was me posting right under. and trust me, there is no ignorance involved in my posts. I know enough to form my own opinions and my words are mine, I didnt get them fed from some online article son.

Anyways, some how this post turned into the reggaeton haters vs the reggaeton fanboys.

The point I was trying to make was that, yes.. Reggaeton is blowin up right now, and yes it sells, but for how long. Also, A LOT OF IT is crap. Seriously, not all of it, but A LOT OF IT is just cookie cutter garbage. I wouldnt even lump Panamenian Reggae with reggaeton much of the time... as far as I knew that was called reggae en espanol, but I guess the term reggaeton has now been generalized to include both. Even Ricky Franco (respected proffessional musician) has stated that as a gendre, reggaeton its "subtle on talent" that should tell u something. Some of it is good though, a lot of the songs have really wicked beats, wicked MCing, and sometimes even good lyrics... its true you dont always need lyrics cause people at the club dont listen to the lyrics.. but since when did it become acceptable for ur **** to sound exactly like everyone elses ****? In hip hop culture "bitin" is generally frowned upon.. not sure how come people in reggaeton get away with using the same beat all the time.

To the guy who was name-droppin Billy Talent, I think u misunderstood with regards to the local talent thing.. no one is sayig we should not support local acts, all Im saying is we shouldnt support talentless people just because they're are local.

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Yea thanks ive been there too long first at the university of windsor and then at sheridan.  Thanks for coming out.  The winner is Jessica de mississauga (salvadorena) whom thanks to dulce received her prize.  That was a very expensive lunch. This song is a pilar in latin music.  Thanks for the concern  on my education.  How im i. You post I am a Guatemalteco man.  If you wanna discuss this further call me. 416 825 5008.  Dont hide behind your ip adress.  Ask for central american reggaton its worth it.

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"@ MC CRAZY CARLITO Can you make the offer a little higher, like $1000. Anyways, I probably won't see you anywhere, anytime soon, so here is the answer....drumroll....please......La cancion se llama Mentirosa y lo rapea Mellow Man Ace. Wicked song back in da day. "

nice! mc crazy carlito wtf! who do u think are? go to school!

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@ MC CRAZY CARLITO

Can you make the offer a little higher, like $1000. Anyways, I probably won't see you anywhere, anytime soon, so here is the answer....drumroll....please......La cancion se llama Mentirosa y lo rapea Mellow Man Ace. Wicked song back in da day.

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" Yeah so do you have anything constructive to contribute or are your opinions pretty much limited to copy and pasting articles from other places??? and by the way, contrary to what many people think... recordes sales do not equal quality either "

I just didnt want to spend to much time on your ignorance and B/S!!! You are too funny! "anonymous" take care buddy!

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Reggaeton or spanish reggae has been out since the late 80's. I remmember back in the day when El general, Nando Boom and some of the other artist were doing their thing we were being identify, then Baby rank came out, La Cripta, I know you'll remember them , still same music and riddim after that it evolved same beat different instrument arragements, but still it was spanish reggaeton and throught the year LATINOS non-latinos liked it. You got to like it cause it's been here for a while not recently, it is a tropical mix that us latinos came out with and it's here to stay just like other Latino beats, and for those that say that u don't need talent to sing u r wrong, just like HIp Hop you need to put "LAS PALABRAS CON RITMO" and not everybody can do it. The bottom line is reggaeton It's ours it identify ourselves just like salsa or any other riddim and it's here to stay

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REGGETON HAS NOT JUST BEGUN. EL GENERAL HAD THE SAME IDEA YEARS AGO. FOR ME IT WAS FACTORIA THAT MADE ME LISTEN. CENTRAL AMERICAN PERREO. NOT THE USELESS PUERTO RICAN WANNA BE MUSIC. WHO CAN TELL ME THAT LATIGO OR NO BOY A LLORAR POR TI OR EVEN MARY IS GONE CAN EVEN BEGIN TO BE IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE INFERIOR GASOLINA OR DALE OR DESCONTROL.
PANAMENAN REGGETON ALWAYS HAS A DOBLE SENCE IN THEIR SONGS. OR SOME KING OF ENTERTAINMENT LIKE GOLOSA. THE BEAT IN THIS MUSIC IS NOT THE SAME OVER AND OVER LIKE IN ALL OF THESE DOMINCAN SONGS.
NO ITS NOT JUST BECAUSE IM CENTRAL AMERICAN.
LET ME TELL YOU THAT YOUR ALL RIGHT ANYONE CAN MAKE BEATS IN THEIR BASEMENT. BUT HOW MANY ARE DOING IT. AND NO WE ARE ALL NOT GONNA BECOME DR DRES DOING IT. BUT ITS HOW MY FRIENDS FROM MOUNT CARMEL HIGH SCHOOL STARTED IN THEIR GARAGE MAYBE U KNOW THEM.
THEY ARE JUNO WINNERS "BILLY TALENT"
DREAMS ALL START SOME WHERE. I USE TO GET CALLS FROM THESE GUYS TO DRIVE THEM HOME OR TO GO TO A SMOKY BAR LIKE THE STAR DUST TO WATCH THEM PERFORM. THEY WERE GOOD. AND SO WERE THEIR FRIENDS. MY POINT IS THAT IF YOU DONT SUPORT LOCAL TALENT THEN ITS REALLY TOUGH FOR THEM TO GET OUT. AND OUR CITY IS NEVER REPRESENTED. WE HAVE A SMALL POPULATION TO BEGIN WITH. DONT MAKE IT EVEN HARDER FOR THESE PEOPLE. BECAUSE THEIR LOCAL TALK TO THEM WHEN YOU SEE THEM GIVE THEM INPUT AND TELL THEM HOW TO IMPROOVE.
LIKE ME IM A DJ AN MC AND A CRITIC. I TELL LOCAL TALENT HOW TO IMPROOVE. IF THEY LISTEN GOOD IF NOT. GOOD TOO. AND ALTHOUGH I DONT LIKE PUERTO RICAN REGGATON WHEN I WAS AT THE UNIVERSAL DJ MEETING LAST MONTH IN TORONTO I MAY ADD. THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MRP. THEY ARE INCHARGE IN GETTING DON OMAR DADDY YANKEE FITO BLANCO ALL THESE ARTIST PLAYED. WHEN SHE CAME UP AND MADE HER PRESENTATION. SHE ASKED IS THIS A MUSIC YOU WOULD PLAY. I STIRRED ALL THE DJ'S AND MADE HUGE NOICE. EVERY ONE TOOK NOTICE. THAT RAGGETON WAS HERE TO REPRESENT LATINOS. AND WE WERE NOT GOING TO GO OUT LIKE THAT. I DINT AGREE ON THE CHOICES FITO EXCLUDED BUT I MADE NOICE. THIS WEEK I PLAN TO TALKK TO DANNY D WHO IS A FRIEND AND DJ CONSTANTINE ANOTHER PERSONAL FRIEND I WANT FITO AND CODE BLUE PLAYED ON A LIVE TO AIR FROM SUGAR DADDY'S. THAT S HOW I PLAN TO HELP THE LOCAL MOVEMENT.
I WISH THAT EVERY ONE OPEN UP THEIR MINDS TO OTHER ORIGINAL FORMS OF PERREO. I KNOW THAT CHARLEY MOET WAS TALKING ON THIS MATTER LAST MONTH AN MENTIONED TO ME THAT PANAMENIAN PERREO WAS GOING TO BE THE CENTER OF HIS NEXT MIXED CD.
ITS GOOD TO SEE Y2J PROMOTING THE GENDRE ON THE RADIO. BUT LAST TIME I CALLED IN TO REQUEST SOME FACTORIA THEY WERE CLUELESS ON THE SUBJECT. THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. I WAS VERY DISSAPOINTED TO HEAR THIS. NEVER THE LESS I WILL KEEP LISTENING FOR THE SAKE OF ENTERTAINMENT.
REGGETON IS LIKE GERARDO SAID RICO Y SUAVE. BUT WERE IS HE NOW.

i WILL GIVE $200TO THE FIRST PERSON THAT SEES ME AT A CLUB A WEDDING OR ON THE STREET AND TELLS ME WHAT SONG AND ARTIST THIS LYRIC IS FROM. CLUE THIS MADE IT TO NUMBER IN BILL BOARD.
"TODAY U TELL ME SOMETHING Y MANANA OTRA COSA"



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i find it interesting how you pointed out that "el perreo is listened to by the poor people" when you compare it to the people listening to it here is mostly the ghetto people or the ghetto little kids trying to be hard its growing but it will decline...unless it evolves into something that is concious
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yeah, i don't know much about who listens to perreo/reggaeton here.. but in peru it's definitely poor people's music (right now) which is why i compared it to hiphop, which was poor people's music but crossed over

will reggaeton cross over?? only time will tell.

(i still own some latin house vinyls)

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Yeah so do you have anything constructive to contribute or are your opinions pretty much limited to copy and pasting articles from other places???

and by the way, contrary to what many people think... recordes sales do not equal quality either
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this was me... I got logged out

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For the first time ever, Los Angeles will be witness to the Reggaeton craze with two sold out shows at The Universal Amphitheatre in Universal City, CA on Saturday, April 30 and Sunday, May 1, 2005. Both shows were sold out within hours of going on sale. The show will feature Daddy Yankee (pictured), Don Omar, Ivy Queen, Hector El Bambino, Luny Tunes and DJ Nelson. Reggaeton is the latest dance craze – a cross-culture genre of music that has hit Latin clubs in Puerto Rico; has taken a stronghold in the East Coast and has been infiltrating the West Coast the last two years. Reggaeton is influenced by Jamaican music (Reggae); salsa, merengue and by urban hip-hop music – it has been associated with the “underground” movement of urban youth in other Caribbean islands and neighboring nations, including the Dominican Republic, Peru, Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Panama and Nicaragua, etc. More recently, it has surfaced in the United States, particularly in areas with large Puerto Rican concentration of other Hispanics – New York and Miami. It’s taking on a marketing approach much like that of hip-hop at the beginning. Evident by the fact that many multi-platinum hip-hop artists are doing Reggaeton mixes. Radio stations in the West Coast such as Power 106 (KPWR 105.9 fm) - #1 Los Angeles station and hip-hop leader; Super Estrella (107.1 fm) – Latin youth market leader – are “leading the pack.” The genre has also taken the U.S. Latin music sales charts by storm, There are currently 10 Reggaeton/Latin Rap Albums in the top 50 Soundscan Latin chart including Daddy Yankee at #1, recently honored by the RIAA with five Gold and Platinum albums for his CD “Barrio Fino”, the largest award in the history of Reggaeton music. Daddy Yankee “Barrio Fino;” (#1 in the Latin Billboard Charts) Don Omar “The Last Don: Live Vol.1;” Ivy Queen “Diva Platinum Edition;” and Luny Tunes “La Trayectoria” - all have been nominated for Reggaeton Album Of The Year by Billboard Latin Music Awards 2005. Universal Music Group has launched Machete Music and appointed Gustavo Lopez as its President in a move to underscore its commitment to expanding new genres of music, particularly in the Latin music area. Machete Music is the first full service, start-up label from a major record company dedicated to the burgeoning music market with a specialty in hip-hop, rap, dance hall and the hottest new movement – Reggaeton. Mr. Lopez is a key player in bringing together the talent for the “Invasion Del Reggaeton” in association with Orjuela Entertainment, Inc Target understands the importance of music in the lives of their guests and its role in the Latin culture, which is why they are supporting this concert and this emerging music genre. The company is proud to showcase Reggaeton talent and provide guests access to this and other emerging Latin music genres.
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Yeah so do you have anything constructive to contribute or are your opinions pretty much limited to copy and pasting articles from other places???

and by the way, contrary to what many people think... recordes sales do not equal quality either

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"in peru reggaeton and el perreo is listened to by poor people (like the maids, etc).. people in the middle/upper classes consider it tacky and low class, though i'm sure they'll come around too eventually (like the mainstream with r&b and hiphop) i don't like it. but i wouldn't dismiss it as crap, not my thing but you can't deny that it's growing "


 


i find it interesting how you pointed out that "el perreo is listened to by the poor people" when you compare it to the people listening to it here is mostly the ghetto people or the ghetto little kids trying to be hard its growing but it will decline...unless it evolves into something that is concious



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ps- i do think the whole perreo doggy style dance is too much.

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in peru reggaeton and el perreo is listened to by poor people (like the maids, etc).. people in the middle/upper classes consider it tacky and low class, though i'm sure they'll come around too eventually (like the mainstream with r&b and hiphop)

i don't like it. but i wouldn't dismiss it as crap, not my thing but you can't deny that it's growing




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"like a puppet!"

you have a point there buddy the track on TH RADIO sound good up to when he starts to rap that sh!t is WEAK and WACK!!!!

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"Reggaton is not music.  There is no talent behind it.  No inmagination.  Half cant even sign.  The only reason youre all  hipe about it is because their playing it on Z and english people are liking it and your all jumping on the wagon.  Guess what ricky martin was hot too.  this will pass and youll all still be latinos.  Support talent not trends.  what does it make you all feel like you need to be asociated to this music to be acepted by society.  grow up people.  get some self worth. get over your inferiority complexes. put your chin up and be yourselves. just an opinion."


For the first time ever, Los Angeles will be witness to the Reggaeton craze with two sold out shows at The Universal Amphitheatre in Universal City, CA on Saturday, April 30 and Sunday, May 1, 2005. Both shows were sold out within hours of going on sale. The show will feature Daddy Yankee (pictured), Don Omar, Ivy Queen, Hector El Bambino, Luny Tunes and DJ Nelson.

Reggaeton is the latest dance craze – a cross-culture genre of music that has hit Latin clubs in Puerto Rico; has taken a stronghold in the East Coast and has been infiltrating the West Coast the last two years. Reggaeton is influenced by Jamaican music (Reggae); salsa, merengue and by urban hip-hop music – it has been associated with the “underground” movement of urban youth in other Caribbean islands and neighboring nations, including the Dominican Republic, Peru, Venezuela, Colombia, Mexico, Panama and Nicaragua, etc. More recently, it has surfaced in the United States, particularly in areas with large Puerto Rican concentration of other Hispanics – New York and Miami. It’s taking on a marketing approach much like that of hip-hop at the beginning. Evident by the fact that many multi-platinum hip-hop artists are doing Reggaeton mixes.

Radio stations in the West Coast such as Power 106 (KPWR 105.9 fm) - #1 Los Angeles station and hip-hop leader; Super Estrella (107.1 fm) – Latin youth market leader – are “leading the pack.” The genre has also taken the U.S. Latin music sales charts by storm, There are currently 10 Reggaeton/Latin Rap Albums in the top 50 Soundscan Latin chart including Daddy Yankee at #1, recently honored by the RIAA with five Gold and Platinum albums for his CD “Barrio Fino”, the largest award in the history of Reggaeton music. Daddy Yankee “Barrio Fino;” (#1 in the Latin Billboard Charts) Don Omar “The Last Don: Live Vol.1;” Ivy Queen “Diva Platinum Edition;” and Luny Tunes “La Trayectoria” - all have been nominated for Reggaeton Album Of The Year by Billboard Latin Music Awards 2005.

Universal Music Group has launched Machete Music and appointed Gustavo Lopez as its President in a move to underscore its commitment to expanding new genres of music, particularly in the Latin music area. Machete Music is the first full service, start-up label from a major record company dedicated to the burgeoning music market with a specialty in hip-hop, rap, dance hall and the hottest new movement – Reggaeton. Mr. Lopez is a key player in bringing together the talent for the “Invasion Del Reggaeton” in association with Orjuela Entertainment, Inc

Target understands the importance of music in the lives of their guests and its role in the Latin culture, which is why they are supporting this concert and this emerging music genre. The company is proud to showcase Reggaeton talent and provide guests access to this and other emerging Latin music genres.



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"like a puppet!"


that's too funny... Some of this local talent need some serious work on their mic skillz and writing too. I sometimes wonder if some of these groups (latin hiphop/reggeaton) even get together to practice their material. For the most part I don't think they do.


One thing is clear, wether you like their lyrics/beats or not, most of these cats are ignoring the most important element in their careers: to entertain.



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"like a puppet!"


THATS COLD

IS WORSE WHEN U HAVE SUM KIDS JUST TRYN TO RAP ON SUM1ELSES BEAT LIKE LIL' JON HAV U HERD THE SONG ON TH RADIO?

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like a puppet!

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true, but honestly i have been facing some great dissapointment sometimes i heat a tight track, and when the MC comes on they just murder the track (not in a good way)


as for kareoke yea your are right this way atlest they can go with the tempo of the song lol



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"There will always be a place for them at Motivos on Karaoke days... "


LOL!!!!!!

bro, thats sooooooo wrong but funny LOL!!!!

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"i see your point but i can't help to feel sympathy for those talentless individuals that have the confidence to step up, they may not have talent but they do have confidence."

There will always be a place for them at Motivos on Karaoke days...

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i see your point but i can't help to feel sympathy for those talentless individuals that have the confidence to step up, they may not have talent but they do have confidence.



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"I completely agree with you i still give people credit for having enough confidence for stepping up and performing however to be honest there are some that have it and some that don't.

I'm not going to name any names but there are local artist that have great beats but when it comes to their MC's they are lacking."



 


faaack... I gotta get going and I keep gettin into this topic, its so addictive this foro. lol


 


anyways, I dont agree Miss Lee... life in not a cuddly little grade school play we're everyone gets a pretty ribbon just for comming out... Props will only be given to those that got both the confidence to step up and the talent to go wit it...



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"I know... that goes for u too! its PH from now on homes.. "




Sir yes Sir!!!!

Phantasma Sir!!!

X@vier

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" I think i got him comfundido because i was calling u fantasmita in the other threads LOL!!! X@vier "

I know... that goes for u too! its PH from now on homes..

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" and u should... a lot of it is really good, and deserves all of our support. but a lot of it is not, and they shouldnt get by just by virtue of being "local" its Support Local Urban Talent NOT support any garbage a bunch of fools threw together in their pcs in their moms basement just cause they happen to be from the same city as u... that wouldnt even fit on a tshirt! -- Edited by Phantasma at 16:27, 2005-04-30


 


 


I completely agree with you i still give people credit for having enough confidence for stepping up and performing however to be honest there are some that have it and some that don't.


I'm not going to name any names but there are local artist that have great beats but when it comes to their MC's they are lacking.


 



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Thanks! but its Phantasma...with a PH, its kinda of a touchy thing with me, thanks for ur cooperation
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I think i got him comfundido because i was calling u fantasmita in the other threads LOL!!!

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"YOU ARE RIGHT FANTANSMA
I totally agree with you and totally disagree when someone speak their mind about a local singer and most people jump on them and call them HATERS.
@Xavier i did't say anything about the LOOK all i said is about bad lyrics, music was created to express your felling and ideas, that's what make a CLASSIC. Bud lyrics doesn't say much about the artist, and if he used a bit from another famous song he/she just loses a lot of respect.
 
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I know u didn't but i put it in there because i have heard people say i don't like the way they look and Sh!t like that................good music is good music no matter where is coming from!

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Thanks! but its Phantasma...with a PH, its kinda of a touchy thing with me, thanks for ur cooperation

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and u should... a lot of it is really good, and deserves all of our support. but a lot of it is not, and they shouldnt get by just by virtue of being "local"

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Support Local Urban Talent NOT, not support any garbage a bunch of fools threw together in their pcs in their moms basement just cause they happen to be from the same city as u... that wouldnt even fit on a tshirt!

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I agree with u on that one

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YOU ARE RIGHT FANTANSMA


I totally agree with you and totally disagree when someone speak their mind about a local singer and most people jump on them and call them HATERS.


@Xavier i did't say anything about the LOOK all i said is about bad lyrics, music was created to express your felling and ideas, that's what make a CLASSIC. Bud lyrics doesn't say much about the artist, and if he used a bit from another famous song he/she just loses a lot of respect.


 



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like i said before i only support music that i like and makes me move......I know some of this local talent people and i tell them if i like it or if i don't, i think thats the reason I'm one of the first persons to listen to their music.

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and u should... a lot of it is really good, and deserves all of our support. but a lot of it is not, and they shouldnt get by just by virtue of being "local"

its

Support Local Urban Talent NOT support any garbage a bunch of fools threw together in their pcs in their moms basement just cause they happen to be from the same city as u... that wouldnt even fit on a tshirt!



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Unfortunately there are A LOT of those... even right here in out microscopic local scene there are many of them. They hide under the pretence of being local talent and expect us to support their crappy music just cause they're homegrown.. and if u dont, ur a 'hater" and ur not doin ur part to "suppor local talent" ... local talent my ass, too much emphasis on the word local and not enough on the word TALENT.
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like i said before i only support music that i like and makes me move......I know some of this local talent people and i tell them if i like it or if i don't, i think thats the reason I'm one of the first persons to listen to their music.

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"most of them not even have good lyrics and the beat is the same, witch is telling us that it was produce by someone with very little talent or no talent at all and is just jumping on the wagon of this new sound to make a few bucks. those are the singers and groups that are going to kill the REAGGETON."



Unfortunately there are A LOT of those... even right here in out microscopic local scene there are many of them. They hide under the pretence of being local talent and expect us to support their crappy music just cause they're homegrown.. and if u dont, ur a 'hater" and ur not doin ur part to "suppor local talent" ... local talent my ass, too much emphasis on the word local and not enough on the word TALENT.

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"let's hope it evolve into a better sound, because there are already alot of people saying that most of the songs sound the same. and the poeple are getting BORED of it.
i think good lyrics will help, besides most of them not even have good lyrics and the beat is the same, witch is telling us that it was produce by someone with very little talent or no talent at all and is just jumping on the wagon of this new sound to make a few bucks. those are the singers and groups that are going to kill the REAGGETON.
 
that's why if you going to SUPPORT the sound make sure you support the right artist not just anybody.
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let's hope it evolve into a better sound, because there are already alot of people saying that most of the songs sound the same. and the poeple are getting BORED of it.


i think good lyrics will help, besides most of them not even have good lyrics and the beat is the same, witch is telling us that it was produce by someone with very little talent or no talent at all and is just jumping on the wagon of this new sound to make a few bucks. those are the singers and groups that are going to kill the REAGGETON.


 


that's why if you going to SUPPORT the sound make sure you support the right artist not just anybody.



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"Bad Boy Baby!

I cant wait to hear a diddy beat with some latin rhymes on it.. say what u say about mr shiny suit man, but he is a wicked producer..

*I thought I told u that we wont stop... I thought I told u that we wont stop....


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I cant wait to hear a diddy beat with some latin rhymes on it.. say what u say about mr shiny suit man, but he is a wicked producer..

*I thought I told u that we wont stop... I thought I told u that we wont stop....


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I think its gonna prob evolve into something like latin hip hop (or back into it, some might argue) or some kind of urban latin musical style...

remember when Latin House was the issh? where's Proyecto Uno now?
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fantasmita i think u r right, specially after this new Bad Boy Latino thing that was posted on the events part of this foro.

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"creo quel reggaeton es una fase... van a ver despues va ser disque Vallenato o algo asi jajajajajaja"


I think its gonna prob evolve into something like latin hip hop (or back into it, some might argue) or some kind of urban latin musical style...

remember when Latin House was the issh? where's Proyecto Uno now?

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creo quel reggaeton es una fase... van a ver despues va ser disque Vallenato o algo asi jajajajajaja

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" Have you listened to the lyrics of a lot of merengue songs out there? sometimes its just about the beat...


Sometimes it is just about the beat, totaly, I have to agree.  


There are bad regathon songs, just like there are bad pop, rock, salsa, merenge, etc songs.  It;s normal.


 


 


 



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